Will Obama Stand Up to Big Energy in Deeds as Well as Words?
Here’s the president on March 31st, announcing his plan to lift a longstanding moratorium on offshore drilling: "Given our energy needs, in order to sustain economic growth and produce jobs, and keep our businesses competitive, we are going to need to harness traditional sources of fuel even as we ramp up production of new sources of renewable, homegrown energy."
Here he is on May 26th, as political pressure starts to really build over the hole in the bottom of the sea that BP somehow seems unable to plug: "We’re not going to be able to sustain this kind of fossil fuel use. The planet can’t sustain it." Still, he added quickly, there’s no need for any dramatics: “We’re not going to transition out of oil next year or 10 years from now.”
And here is the president last Wednesday, after yet another gimcrack solution at 5,000 feet under the waters of the Gulf of Mexico had gone awry, and real anger at the administration’s lackluster performance crested: "[T]he time has come to aggressively accelerate [the transition from fossil fuels.] The time has come, once and for all, for this nation to fully embrace a clean energy future."
The question is: which one is the real Obama? Has he really been transformed by the oil spill in the Gulf, or is he merely trying to ride out the public reaction with stronger words? I think the answer is as murky as the water off Mobile. We don’t know because so far it’s all words — the closest he’s come to specifics is that pledge that we won’t beoff oil in a decade.
Which, of course, is true. Ten years from now, we’ll still be using oil — many of the people who bought new Fords this year will still be driving them in 2020. Exxon will still be in business. But this realism didn’t necessarily preclude him from saying so much more than he did. Had he chosen to, he could have declared: “Ten years from now, America will be using half the oil we do today and producing ten times as much solar power.” That would have been stirring. That would have put something on the line.
He could, in other words, have done what President John F. Kennedy did, when he found himself with a 10-year timetable. In a special address to Congress in May 1961, JFK urged that America commit itself to the goal, “before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.” He demanded of Congress “a firm commitment to a new course of action, a course which will last for many years and carry very heavy costs.”
A year later, at roughly the same stage in his presidency as Obama is in his, Kennedy took to the stage at Rice University, having just toured nearby NASA labs. There, he gave a great speech. (If you think Obama has a masterful speechwriting team, compare his flabby remarks in California to Kennedy’s slightly shorter gem.) Its core went like this:
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone.
Now, let’s catalogue the differences: Kennedy had the Cold War to help him, along with an accelerating economy and a strong congressional majority. Obama presides over a fragile economy, a fractious Congress, and must deal with a lunatic right that, at the last Republican convention, came together around the slogan “Drill, Baby, Drill.”
Not only that, but the challenge he faces is so much tougher. The Apollo mission was technically complex, but in a sense the very opposite of our energy challenge: a moon shot meant focusing all our energy on three guys and a rocket, while an energy revolution would mean, in essence, landing all of us on a different planet, one where we no longer need the fossil fuels that are currently the engine for our economy. So, advantage Kennedy. In addition, no organized interest was fighting the space shot — if anything, big corporations were lining up for a piece of the action.
Still, as Andy Revkin recently pointed out in the New York Times, there is “every reason to think a contemporary president could articulate how this remarkable juncture in human history, as infinite aspirations butt up against planetary limits, can be met with a grand, sustained effort.”
Especially because Kennedy was taking a flier, there was no one demanding he go to the moon, and no real penalty for not even trying. (Lots of people thought we could have spent the money better close to home.) Obama, however, has no choice. The planet’s future (and his legacy) will, in the long run, be defined by his response to global warming, which is clearly the greatest problem humans have ever faced.
Forget the Cold War. Last week, new satellite data showed that this summer’s melt of the Arctic is already ahead of 2007’s record pace. We’re in the middle of a Heat War, and we’re losing badly. Globally, we’ve just come through the warmest winter on record, and it seems all but certain that 2010 will set a new record for the hottest calendar year. Every week we seem to see record deluges somewhere: May began with crazy flooding in Nashville and ended with inundation in Guatemala. Last week saw the warmest temperatures ever recorded in Asia and Southeast Asia.
So far, Obama’s barely broken a sweat on climate change: a few paragraphs in a few speeches. Now, the catastrophic oil spill in the Gulf offers him the best chance he’s ever going to get to go to work. The president could stand on the Louisiana shore and say: “Bad as this is, it’s only a small and visible symbol of the greater damage we do each day simply by burning coal and gas and oil. If that black gunk now washing up here had ended up safely in the gas tanks of our cars, it would nonetheless have done great damage. It’s all dirty, every last drop and lump.”
The president already has the podium he needs to start turning history, which means more than merely pushing for the climate and energy bill introduced last month by senators John Kerry and Joe Lieberman — a prime example of baby-step politics. As with his health care bill, on energy matters, too, the administration and its envoys sought out in advance the industries most likely to raise a fuss and cut the deals those cartels wanted. Just as big pharma knew it wouldn’t face negotiated drug prices, so big oil and big electricity have been assured that there will be no serious opposition to their business model.
The bottom line: if you neglect all the offsets and loopholes, we’re aiming for a 4% reduction in carbon emissions from 1990 levels by 2020. Make your blood stir? Obama’s not proposing real solutions to real problems; he’s ticking off items on a list. He got a health care bill, and just maybe he’ll get an energy bill (though that’s an increasingly slim "maybe"). But we don’t need the bill, we need the thing.
I’m putting this all on Obama, even though it’s clear that he can’t do it by himself. He’d need a movement to make real progress. That’s the tragedy, though: he’s already got a movement. He was elected with millions of us sending him money, knocking on doors, standing in snow banks with signs. He commands a standing army (albeit one that’s growing rusty from disuse and a little demoralized).
And it’s not just here. Across the world, we at 350.org were able to organize giant demonstrations last year — 5,200 of them in 181 countries, what Foreign Policy called “the largest ever coordinated global rally of any kind." We did it the way Kennedy did, by rallying people around a hard goal instead of an easy one: 350 parts per million of carbon dioxide which, according to NASA scientists, is the most we can safely have in the atmosphere. Since we’re already past that point — at 390 ppm — we need to work harder than we could ever have imagined. We really do need to get off oil in the coming decade.
But to have a chance we need a leader. We need someone to stand up and tell it the way it is, and in language so compelling and dramatic it sets us on a new path. On this planet of nearly seven billion, at this moment in history, there’s exactly one person who could play that role. And so far he hasn’t decided.
Bill McKibben, a scholar-in-residence at Middlebury College, is the founder of 350.org and the author most recently of Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet.
Copyright 2010 Bill McKibben
also posted at TomDispatch.com
Here is the FDL Book Salon with Mr. McKibben on "Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet."



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‘Will Obama Stand Up to Big Energy in Deeds as Well as Words?”
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Asked and Answered.
We are SCREWED!
A remarkable understatement.
Oh, he decided a long time ago and in your favor, if you happen to represent a global corporation.
Nice post. I heartily recommend Frank Rich’s opinion piece in today’s NYT, on the same topic, as well.
NO, Obama is a fraud , worse he’s a coward and a liar. Worser, he’s Corporatist stooge.
Yes the effort must be huge and the results grand. I don’t think many, Americans in particular, have been willing to accept the message. We must cease the burning of fossil fuels. That has to become a mantra for the people of the world. No acceptable solutions will be found until that is accepted. And of course more vigorous programs for alternatives. Personally I see a lifestyle change to more sustainable that will involve a high percentage of energy being produced locally.
But you are spot on with the focus on organizing to send the messages and to demand policies that work. This is the people’s earth and we must in kinship preserve it.
No way, EOS. How can I be sure? Experience is a good teacher. Sanstesticles will provide us with nice kabuki while not daring to confront the elites before whom he cringes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mNDHTfdn1A
Ah, but we know what Rahm thinks of ‘movements’ ….
In fact, the ISC in C (Israeli-Corporate Stooge in Chief) is actually thinking of seizing a completely different moment, and allowing openly Likud government of the United States. When the Wingnuttia Israelia take over, you’ll dream fondly of those batshit crazy, teabagged Republicans who ‘wanted their country back’!
Obama is the obvious choice but my prediction is he simply does not have the insight or the emotional tools to be that leader.
I do not however think his position is the only one that can provide leadership. Where is the next Rachel Carson?
Sadly I have seen so much demoralization in the scientific community, not to mention big oil’s assault on science that I wonder is a leader left with the intellect and the vigor to come forward from that community?
Outstanding post and right on. Thank you.
I don’t know if it’s fair to call him Sanstesticles. Promoting himself in 2008 as a champion of the people while knowing full well he is a corporatist was pretty bold. A more accurate title for his book would have been The Mendacity of Hope.
I’m not sure what I think of him as a person, just what I think of him as an actor. I think the character he is playing was written when he accepted the part, and that he is not one to improvise on stage. He is just the poor fool taking a poorly-scripted part. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Welcome back to Firedoglake Bill
sadly, we have seen what is admittedly anecdotal but tough to deny signs that this guy isn’t that leader
when you have NOAA (ferchrissakes!) denying their own research on existing plumes and a OSHA spox, who effing knows better, saying clean up workers don’t need respirators and other protections, it’s time to go candidate shopping
The question to me is who persuaded him that he should self-destruct. He doesn’t seem to get that it’s what he’s doing so someone is pulling his strings.
Time for OB to put some really tough restrictions on offshore drilling, hire allot of regulators and engineers to do strenuous inspecting and oversight, and have the OILCO pay for it.
A-yep.
Hell, if he’d just give a boost to wind and solar power, beef up the nation’s electrical grid, and give money to electric-car makers instead of to banks who refuse to lend it, I’d like that. (Heck, I’d be happy if he pushed Congress to lift the restrictions on credit unions so that they could make the big loans that the banks won’t do nowadays.)
i dont believe any of this is accurate other than folks seeing it in an isolated report.
OSHA is not saying no to respiratorss. They should be requiring them, though.
as to NOAA, I believe the NOAA boss sent her ships down there to find out.
that FSU found some remains the findings of one researcher.
absolutely right, PW.
we need solar on every home in the sunbelt with adequate subsidies so everyone gets it. Just take the money from the oil drilling tax right off, and spread it around to solar.
Will Obama stand up to:
Runaway Military spending?
Bailouts of the TBTF?
Elimination of entrenched corporate monopolies?
Ending the massively large unregulated insurance called derivatives.
Government protected handouts to PhRMA and health insurers?
White shirts and slacks at beach photo-op where no oil could be seen?
Maybe the last one but only after careful consideration of all of the alternatives.
The two quotes are not opposed, he wants to give oil companies the oil profits, and Goldman Sachs et al cap and trade.
To suck your blood.
FDR was an Imperial President. With the powers he assumed he, and his stable of advisers, harnessed many of the unemployed masses into the CCC and other endeavors, to the lasting benefit of the USA. He then turned the manufacturing and manpower giant that was the US to become the behemoth of the twentieth century. Now we have Obama meekly following an idiot child of a President in their version of the Imperial President. Churlish, secretive and petulant in Bush’s reign and surprisingly ineffective, timid and secretive under Obama. The effectiveness and bent of this Administration is easily discerned from the de facto approval of war crimes, the HCR effort, or lack therein, Wall Street non-reform and responsiveness to BP’s decimating the Gulf Coast. Obama wants the perks of an Imperial President without exercising the responsibility and accountability. Maybe his 401K’s are dependent on his ineffectiveness. The US toast for the foreseeable future.
No, that is his job, to pretend that he actually is in control rather than the elites for whom he is working. Jerry Lewis proved that you can make a career of playing a chump, too.
I think the Gulf Gusher is a turning point, for some.
In the past two days I have been told by two folks who have been considering solar (I have been talking it up to them) that they are going ahead.
They no longer just do the math on whether it pays; They feel they have to do it if it even comes close to breaking even.
They want off Oil and want an electric vehicle they plug into their roof.
Obama believes the market, in this case the oil industry, will satisfactorily resolve the gusher with little assistance from the public sector, thank you very much. His decisions are based on the private sector carrying the load on the public tab. He’s a free marketeer, a pirate in a suit.
Will Obama Stand Up to Big Energy in Deeds as Well as Words?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Your kidding right? You absolutely without a doubt should already know the answer…
Actually at least two groups of university researchers, including a group from University of South Florida, found plumes
So that seems to be a bit more than “one researcher”
The closest they would ever get would be passing a mandate for everyone to purchase the most expensive least effective solar panels on the market.
I’m of a mind that there are plenty of Rachel Carsons (in various disciplines) among us – getting folks to both hear and accept their message is the rub
of course in her time, there was plenty to be done to save us. so many of us feel so helpless in the face of the few steps left to us
loosely related – keep thinking of Nixon’s Endangered Species Act – nowhere near the gargantuan tasks we face in ending our addiction to oil – but dammit, it had immediate impact and we as a nation sucked it up and went forward with it
source?
I dont doubt the plumes, but I dont blame NOAA for wanting to have solid proof and mapping of the plumes.
If some spox said otherwise, he/she should be fired.
USF is all over it. Got their own research vessel, the whole ball of wax.
Dr NOAA Jane Lubchenko is a BP stooge. She never says anything not pre-approved by BP. She was very excited about her P-38 plane flying over the gulf to look at the ‘very light sheen’ of the ‘slick’ but you’ll never hear her talk about plumes except to discount her own agency’s researchers.
She’s a stooge.
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The only difference between this and the ongoing financial bailouts is that more people understand a dead animal covered in oil than billions of dollars that simply disappear never to be seen again. The incompetence of BT and the Coast Guard will make believers out more than a few of the “Drill Baby Drill” crowd when this mobile death washes up on their investment properties.
Obama fronts for the Oligarchs. That will never change.
Seems this story confirms that NOAA and USF are working together.
http://www.examiner.com/x-37561-Tampa-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m6d4-Gulf-oil-spill-update-USF-confrms-plumes-BP-denied-tar-balls-in-Pensacola-oil-spill-live-feed
USF researchers reported two underwater plumes in the Gulf of Mexico, a finding greatly disputed by BP. Now, USF says that they have laboratory testing that confirms the two underwater plumes. There is a possibility that more exist. USF and NOAA will release more details regarding the laboratory test results this Monday. The news comes as oil washes ashore in Pensacola, Florida.
BP continues with their containment cap, the most successful of the endeavors to control the oil flow to date. It was announced that they will know how much oil the cap is siphoning by tomorrow. Still, the containment cap will not stop the crude oil gushing into the Gulf coast waters; it will only slow it down. Relief wells will be used to stop the flow but they won’t be ready until August.
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Choices abound.
When Obama spoke of this now being the time to make a big change he advocated nuclear energy and natural gas if I am not mistaken .
Our leaders fiddle as the world burns and unless we can find a way to make saving our @sses profiatable for the corporations we will be in big trouble .
What will be the effect of toxic plumes drifting ,perhaps for decades, underwater on the ocean’s currents upon sea life and plankton ?
I’m inclined to agree with Hugh who has stated that what we actually have is a kleptocracy.
your story contains this in the second graf:
BATON ROUGE, La. (2010-6-4) -
Scientists in Baton Rouge report that University of South Florida laboratory tests have confirmed that oil from a spewing Gulf of Mexico well has accumulated in at least two extensive plumes deep underwater.
However, a USF spokeswoman in Tampa, said that report is not confirmed. Vickie Chachere said some tests are not completed and results will not be available until Monday.
i agree with that.
Lot of people retired here to overpriced condos. This oil washes up on the west coast beaches and their property will become, for all intents and purposes, worthless and they’ll be stuck. Renters will move. Property on the coast will be cheap again.
Right, same thing the Examiner story, your link, says. Monday, tomorrow, but I’m thinkin’ there’s not a lot of doubt within the scientific community.
You pretty much covered everything I was going to say, only better. Obama has never met a special interest he didn’t like.
The only people he has any intention of standing up to are dumbasses like me that went door to door for him and believed in him. He has no problem with telling us to go fuck ourselves. Healthcare proved that.
Florida currently ranks 4th in the U.S. in GDP.
Death Valley Days, straight ahead.
Gonna hafta build a rain catcher/water purifier. Got nowhere to go.
The losses in transmitting energy on the grid are gigantic . We need decentralized energy , along the lines of solar shingles, cars like the now extinct EV1, mass transit and a change in lifestyle away from mindless consumerism .
The only problem is that unless we can wrest control from the corporations this and any other truly sensible solutions to the problems confronting our species will be kept of the table by the corporations which own our government .
Once again it come down to how to create an actual democracy when the two party system is a rigged game . Anything else is little more than hot air .
reply to SD @46
I am still finding the scale of this tragedy incomprehensible.
THat is a misleading number, we also are near the bottom in most indicators of standard of living such as wages and percentage without health care.
We haven’t seen anything yet. Hurricane? We don’t need no steenking hurricane. Good tropical storm will blow this shit onto the beaches. Heard this morning 500 dead birds, 100 turtles and I imagine that’s low balling. Haven’t run into anybody who has anything good to say about the oil industry.
36th in median income. And according to wiki:
Needless to say, as is always the case, low-income individuals will be hurt most by the impending disaster because they cannot afford to leave.
In many states rainwater catchment is illegal. Now a bill in the Senate , already passed by the House would likely eliminate farmers markets and locally grown produce .
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/05/oregons_small-scale_farms_worr.html
Yes, decentralized energy. Not these horrid new mega-transmission corridors ripping up the country.
Whatever happens with an Energy Bill, I sure hope it does not give a “Pass” or NEPA short-cuts to Transmission Corridors and Industrial Energy Projects of any kind.
But I very much fear, especially in places like Nevada where many of these new lines and “greenfield” remote-sited industrial renewable projects are proposed, there will be NEPA short-cut after NEPA shortcut doled out as a gifts to the Big Energy industry in the upcoming Bill. Gifts to Big Energy to help get Harry Reid re-elected.
“…which one is the real Obama?”
That depends, Bill…
Which one is needed at any moment in any given narrative…?
He’s got to be flexible, you know.
Ever hear the term “black market?” People have always found ways around such laws, often with the complicity of the local authorities. Community and individual gardens can go a long way.
I left a late comment yesterday in the thread to TCU’s post regarding the need for respirators and protective clothing. My guess is that even if they are available (which they should be) many people involved in cleanup will resist wearing them because the heat and humidity may already be unbearable.
And this is only early June. By mid-July I suspect we are going to be looking at a truly hellish scenario.
Nope. Next question.
Thanks for the linked story. Seems like every time I turn around the Ds surprise me with yet another thing I would have hardly expected from the Rs. Trying kill farmers markets, which have no clear record of health issues, because corporate farms have continually failed to protect consumers is a brilliant example of what comes out of Washington.
Work in short shifts and stay hydrated. It’ll be murder in August.
After all this correct assessment of Obama’s actions, or lack thereof, Rich remains delusionally hopeful about Obama, – WTF!?
Oh, rich’s piece is quite a piece all right, it’s a piece of shit … and many of his pieces have been like that ever since his party hero obama came into power. Here’s my least favorite part of it … and that says a lot:
Yes, let’s all blindly assume … and against all logical thinking … that the man who was near the top of his class at harvard law school is this daffy guy who truly wants to do best for the people that he promised substantive change to, but just keeps getting fooled into doing what is best for his corporate constituency who just happen to be his biggest campaign donors. And believe this despite the ample evidence that he says one thing (see: health care bill debacle) and then slyly works behind the scenes thru his hand-picked chief of staff to do the exact opposite (see: public option, medicare negotiated drug prices, imported pharmaceuticals, mandate health care insurance with no public option) and keep his corporate sponsors happy with their investment in him … even though they may posture differently for public consumption. And this chief of staff that he appointed … and he didn’t fall from the sky like an asteroid into the well-intentioned one’s cabinet … was and is well-known as being the dlc’s master of deceit and someone who directs the democrats’ political kabuki theatre so that it always ends the same fucking way: serving corporate amerika.
I used to have a lot of respect for rich, but I’ve lost it .. totally lost it since he’s lost all semblance of objectivity now that the dems are in control. rich is a disgusting hack for the democratic party. Sure, he was spot-on when it came to bush, but he willingly … and eagerly … embeds his head up the donkey’s ass now that his hero dems are in charge. And beyond that he runs diversionary interference for them by laying heavy on the admittedly marginally more disgusting republicans and continually using them as an excuse for the actions of his own corporate serving party.
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Book Salon up at the Mothership with Gregory Koger’s Filibustering: A Political History of Obstruction in the House and Senate hosted by Jonathon Bernstein
There is more bad news coming BP’s way. The Daily News in Galveston is reporting that BP’s Texas City refinery released more than 400 pounds a day of benzene over a 40 day period.
http://www.galvnews.com/story/157738
This is the same facility where an explosion killed 15 and injured 170 in March, 2005. Just 4 months later there was another explosion with no fatalities. BP was fined a paltry $ 87 million for over 700 safety violations. This article should illustrate how nothing has changed since then.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article6897583.ece
Will Obama Stand Up to Big Energy in Deeds as Well as Words?
In a word, No, well maybe, he may do as he did with health care and financial reform, and come up with some half assed measure that only incrementally punishes BP and deals with the climate change issue. Bet on it!!!
I concur, and I would add that I feel the same way about HP.
Reply to 65 (reddflagg):
bob cesca makes me want to chuck … he must type with one hand and fondle an obama bobble-head doll with the other … and Arriana, who I respect in most matters not involving the well-intentioned one, continually contorts her logic around the base assumption that obama is a noble and intelligent man who is simultaneously clueless as to what entities, who just happen to be his biggest corporate campaign donors, his actions almost always serve. And this despite all the evidence during the health care bill debacle that he speaks one thing to the people and works behind the scenes to effectuate the exact opposite with the help of his fellow chi-town pal emanuel.
Anyone who still believes this ridiculous narrative that is based upon empty empathetic words and next to ZERO action is partly a fucking idiot … and immoral too, which is where selective subjectivity and tribal allegiance leads to … and they really ought to dedicate at least a portion of their brains to science NOW becoz they obviously have no personal use for at least part of it.
I think that HP’s comments section has been taken over by moveon’ers, the kos crew and “grassroots” liberal groups that are being funded by the democratic party establishment in some way … they sure carry enough water for them.
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Another thing, I think that the comments section on HP has been taken over by the demo-zombies from moveon, the kos crew and “grassroots” liberal groups that are funded by the democratic party establishment … they carry enough water for them to warrant their funding.
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Exactly, over the past several months it seems a person can’t get a comment past the moderator unless it says something like “If you are against Obama you’re a teabagger who wants Palin to be president” or “We can’t expect Obama to accomplish anything because Bush left such a mess.” But more recently it seems like the founders of that site are on talk shows every weekend parroting the line that it is all Bush’s fault, ignoring how little daylight there has been between the regulatory policies of Bush and Obama (or even Clinton). Bush was indeed horrid, but that isn’t saying much.
Ever tried criticizing the democrats on think progress ? I’m thinking it makes the daily kos look good .
Anyone even suspected of criticizing the party line receives a hatchet job replete with expletives , personal assaults and mischaracterizations .Their vote down system allows a dissenting opinion to be removed from the public’s view .
I could use some help over there . That site is joined at the hip , through John Podesta , to the administration .
“Will Obama Stand Up to Big Energy in Deeds as Well as Words?”
Like he “stood up to” big PHarma, big health insurance, big banks…
No, he won’t. Next question?
‘This is the same facility where an explosion killed 15 and injured 170 in March, 2005. Just 4 months later there was another explosion with no fatalities. BP was fined a paltry $ 87 million for over 700 safety violations. This article should illustrate how nothing has changed since then.’
This is the product of the’Three Little Pigs’ memo all of that human carnage and NO criminal complaints.
Now, Holder seems to be focussing on the enviornmental malfeasence instead of the criminal.
I was taken aback by the bang to whimper content of the Frank Rich column, it totally fizzeled out and ended in a blur. Yeah don’t emote, get even.
The government should be seizing a sum close to the 10 billion dividend that BP is about to dole out into an escrow account to frontload any expenses and snap the red tape.
More painful was watching marKos getting his milkshake drunk by the demonspawn of dik on ABC. He was a total pussy and Tapper all but called him an appendix for being ‘surprisingly silent’
He stammered out the point that ANOTHER corporation is going to get away with murder. Then huffington barely referenced the refinery, more concerned to out snark the demonspawn.
The whitehouse had their scribe document that barry knew it was bad in april.
So, mr. decisive doesn’t set up some triage to anticipate the obvious. Sure, more of those people left in Louisiana are republicans but the carnage this is wreaking should be left in crawford texas and some undisclosed house of evil.
I have come to the point of total disbelief. If the President grows a pair and does something proactive then great. I had expected to see joseph cassano frog marched by august to prove he was going to get tough on the financials. But No.
They drop the AIG case. You can actually destroy the economy of the world and not have to be held to account.
Don’t look back on AIG, war crimes, phoney war, secret energy meetings.
hopey changey all right
I like to think of them as the children of Cass Sunstein .
I generally keep my comments to one paragraph in HP and the NY Times since my success rate of getting thru the moderator is at about 50% … why waste the time … and these posts aren’t usually vulgar either, just critical of obama and the writers that adulate him.
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We need to begin national boycotts with the focus on proving we the people are actually in control .
All the rest is just commentary on the abhorrent state of the nation and remarks on events after they are over and done with .
We need to close ranks with the other side of the political spectrum and help empower Americans … outside the voting booth by unconventional means !
Asymmetrical like .
Considering BP’s track record of reckless endangerment, murder & mayhem, they should be permanently barred from doing business in the U S.
Of course, we all know that is not going to happen.
Agreed … and leave the two wings of THE party behind.
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We need to begin a dialogue NOW about how to accomplish this .
We can capitalize on the anger on the right as well as progressive disillusionment . The oil spill is a great opportunity to focus on but we should take down a company other than BP alone such as Exxon to make the message undeniably clear .
We the people can be united and the power lies with us !
Either a new organization or one that exists presently will serve our purpose and a blog site .
Indeed. For example, I have long said that a left party could win substantial support in congressional races in progressive areas on both coasts but not necessarily run a presidential candidate so as to be a force for change without a Nader affect in a presidential election (if it even really matters, which the current guy is making me doubt). That is how the NDP in Canada has been successful in EXACTLY the same election system we have (single-member plurality), by winning seats mainly in the plains provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba (the progressive areas of Canada). It was the third-party NDP which pushed through single payer. A left party could win seats from Washington through California the Northeast and large cities such as Chicago and St. Paul. Ah, a nice dream…
One result we should be aiming at ,and in my opinion the most important , is an ammendment striking down corporate personhood !
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step .
Tao te ching
Wanna take over my neglected blog ?
We should start immediately to focus our energy on actions as opposed to more sad commentary .
Here’s a possible source to gather some like-minded people: http://wsws.org/index.shtml.
I think that libertarians and socialists have more in common than libertarians realize.
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I agree ! there are some that realise this already .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqNlQnvOJb8
Hewlett-Packard has always been a tool of the Marxists.
A boycott using the oil spill is the best place to raise awareness of our power as a population ! BP alone is too obvious ! We should promote taking out one of it’s competitors and perhaps BP as well .
All done with the idea of planting the seed of eliminating corporate influence of our democracy !
Thanks for the link. Interesting site, I see no way to comment on articles, though.
I am a Marxist and while I recognize that is not equal to socialist I think that while there are some commonalities with libertarians in terms of regarding the state as oppressive, the WHY is important. Libertarians tend to think the absence of control of firms is a positive, while Marxists obviously do not.
LOL, I meant Huffington Post.
What is it? I’m not interested in taking anything over but would like to check it out.
Is there anyone trying to constuct a boycott of a major oil company presently ?
Neglected is what it is . Just click on my moniker and you’ll arrive there but there it isn’t much as I said .
Unless there is a larger organization already organizing a boycott of a major oil company , in the gulf states I believe that that is the best place to start and we will need an online presence to present it .
A new blog would be easy to accomplish where the discussion is focused entirely on actions to bring about the change we all envision and not on the latest minutia on the days events .
Let me clearer , the Gulf and the outrage being felt there is the best place to start . We need to have an blog to present our proposals and link to it by posting on other sites and attempting to collaborate with any organization working toward the same ends .
Since BP is essentially a wholesaler it may be difficult to directly affect them. Many of the retail locations are franchises owned by someone other than BP. However it may be possible to get them to change their relationship with BP and switch to, say, Citgo.
You forgot AIPAC!
Good I can see that but I must say that I would rather go after a second oil company because then the message would be that the population is fed up with all oil companies not merely BP .
It would be very empowering for the public to realize they are only being taken advantage of because they have allowed it and that the solution is right under there noses .
Also, while I agree it would be unfair to punish the small retailers , as you have pointed out , they can be fore warned and can switch to another distributor .Boycotting at the pump would be easier to understand for the public and more empowering .
“I do not however think his position is the only one that can provide leadership. Where is the next Rachel Carson?”
It is obvious that we need some real leaders (in the environmental movement and science) to come forward who are strong advocates of alternative energy. Part of the problem is that you also must be able to fight for your beliefs and refute false claims (often by well funded corporations or people), which can be draining for some. “We” need to discuss these issues with friends and family until it reaches the tipping point where it is no longer acceptable to maintain the “status quo”.
Although it is now in hindsight, I can’t help but wonder what our country would have looked like now if we had continued President Jimmy Carter’s suggestions on energy consumption into the 1980′s and beyond.
President Carter – The “Crisis of Confidence” Speech
Thank you Bill McKibben for an interesting article.
Waiting for Obama to lead is like trying to revive the dead—at once horribly agonizing and ultimately fruitless.
oh for goodness sakes, the answer is as clear his appointment for the Dept of Interior – Ken Salazar.
Those who believed the words of the award winning marketing campaign now look like chumps – how could anyone rely on the words again?
y’know, those products that promise to make you young, thin and rich usually don’t, and buying more of the same crap doesn’t help.
Obama is in PR damage control mode, essentially acting as a flack for BP, who, not coincidentally, donated more of their money to him than to any other politician for the past 6 years.
Obama takes both sides of every issue, that way he’s always right and he makes no enemies. However one side is primarily a guise for public consumption and when push comes to shove the corporations always win.
he does not need to be pushed by corporations … he serves them willingly and lavishly. The only ones who need to push him to get anything out of him is the public … that he promised change to. And all the well-intentioned one gives them is posturing and empty words.
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Judge says BP acted like Nazis. Report from Greg Palast.
http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/06/theres-another-bp-oil-spill-shhh-says.html
There is a second BP oil spill. This one is in Alaska. More negligence on the part of BP.
As Jefferson and Madison feared……. servitude to corporations achieved by constitutional usurpation enabled corporate aristocrats mitigating the legitimate role of government to protect “rights” afforded men opposed to the protection of corporation’s due process right to profit at life’s expense. Corporate ……go fuck yourself! Recall how a certain SJC Justice declared a man “property,” for the benefit of a certain “interest” in America dependent on the uncompensated toils of slaves, because it “cost” to much? Corporate…. go fuck yourself while going the way of the slave owner. America is in a state of denial concerning “American Servitude” to energy purveyors more concerned with protecting inefficient systems offering decreasing value to the consumer who is the worker/citizen who has no job because tight money policies by corporation stagnate growth and innovation, to protect the very inefficient systems, cash cows in place for generations, which undermine liberty long term?
America’s War is with ENERGY! and the creation of a Symbiotic Terrestrial Energy Production System utilizing solar harvesting technologies and disassociation/desalination of hydrogen from salt water via harmonic resonance/radio frequency waves. The burning of hydrogen will power steam driven magnetic assisted turbine/generators.
Given all the technological complexities and costs associated with fossil fuels extraction, refinement and distribution of a stored potential energy subject to scarcity hence supply side models would it not make sense to bring together using American innovation and technology abundant sun and abundant salt water to process hydrogen, to burn and recombine into potable water? The Nazis where defeated in four years yet America is still in servitude to energy corporations who have monopolistic grasp on energy the same way the health insurance industry buying law has been successful in placing a premium on “Life” itself?
Bend over America! It is called Corporate Sodomy enabled by corporate servitude and corporatist gaming the system with undue influence of money as both Jefferson and Madison feared, at the expense of the Republic and the lives and rights of the governed, from which government derives it just and moral consent.
The boycott of BP
Boycott BP
Take the Beyond BP Pledge today!
Send a clear message to BP by boycotting its gas and retail store products. Don’t spend a cent of your hard-earned money to feed the bottom line of the corporation responsible for the worst oil spill in our nation’s history.
Tell your friends, family, co-workers and neighbors to visit http://www.BeyondBP.org and join the boycott, too!
Take the pledge !
End America’s instilled and leveraged corporate servitude! End it! Boycott BP!
Now lets organize a national strike well in advance of the fake elections in November and the corporate kabuki show we call the two party system !!
All of the so-called smart people in Washington tell Obama we can’t get away from oil in the near future.
So He thinks He is doing what’s best for the Country.
Isn’t that what we want our Presidents to do.
I’ll bet those hundred to scientists he claims to have on this BP problem, would tell Him the same things.
This was caused by drilling a well, and what is He and the Country are being told is the only way to fix it, is to drill two more wells.
Not one of the smart assholes in the Government has even questioned that those two relief wells are just as dangerous as the first well. Why? Because they are being told that is the best and only sure safe way to plug the well. You want to see them all squirm if one of those blows out.
They will all say it can’t happen, but that’s what BP told the Government to let them drill in the first place.
Face it, Obama isn’t the only dum dum in this Country.
The evil Sempra Sunrise Powerlink proposed for Southern California, through “protected lands” (ha!), supposedly for green energy (Sempra won’t promise), likely for dirty energy brought up through Mexico. Thanks for saying.
Perfect.