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Increase in mutations at Fukishima. The corium in unit 1 is in a state where earthquakes increase radiation. They’re not reporting increases in neutrons that would be indicative of recriticality. Theory is that there’s a crust on the corium that the quakes fracture.
When did the first stars turn on? They keep pushing the date back. Given ‘em an more distant quasar, I bet they’ll push that date back further.
Here’s some good news for all you coffee addicts. So if you have another cup of coffee, you can have that donut.
In Calif, with the density of smartphones, this could actually work. And you’d really only need 2-3 companies to go along with the better detectors.
The moon got the crap beat out of it more than we thought. That’s kinda impressive, because we already thought it had the crap beat out of it.
A problem with energy is that we can’t store enough of it in a small enough area. Nor can we recharge quickly. Nor can we tap it quickly. A capacitor solves the recharge problem, and the discharge problem, but one big enough to power a care would be bigger than a car. Enter the supercapacitor. Now they’ve made an advance to shrink the supercapacitor. This would dramatically increase the surface area and hence the amount of energy stored.
Ash trees are dying in Britian due to a new fungus.
Element 113 created. It is absolutely useless for it’s short lifetime. In theory, 113 has one isotope in the Island of Stablity. Obviously, this one wasn’t it.
Photovoltaic is one way to plug into the sun. It has a maximum theoretical efficiency of about 35%. 21% is the new record for a producable panel. They’re saying a $2100.00 investment could power your house. We’ll see if it makes it all the way to market.
A story about hypergiant stars. Keep any comments about overcompensating to yourselves.
Man can make a difference when we wish. Ozone hole shrinking, might be back to normal in 2065. We stopped making the chlorine compounds that caused it whee we could and controlled the heck out of it where we couldn’t. The former should not be interpreted as supporting job killing environmental regulations or international treaties.
This is NOT a hockey stick. Pointless bet: which kills us first, fuku, warming, oil pollution or other?
Fracking is too close to me. And getting bigger.
If you asked somebody, they’d probably tell you that nuclear power is 20% of america’s energy. It’s actually 8%.
Some science from the Challenger Deep, the deepest spot on earth. Once again keep your thoughts about overcompensation to yourselves.
Boxturtle (If any of you have your Xmas shopping done, I don’t wanna hear about it)
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Good Morning Box and All, Thanks for the comments; I enjoy your comments and POV….
Thanks, BoxTurtle. Lessons learned in fracking experience in TX led the companies perpetrating it to first stack local environmental protection agencies. See; PA.
My impression is that stacking is what’s happening here, but it’s somewhat north of me so we don’t get a lot of news on it. Also, I’ve heard second hand that the landowners involved are getting VERY attractive contracts from the frackers.
As long as people think fracking=jobs or fracking=lower gasoline prices, there will likely continue to be enough support for it.
Do they not realize that natural gas has no effect on gasoline prices?!?
Boxturtle (And somebody should count the jobs)
Since it’s local, I noted awhile back that the attractions being presented in favor of fracking are hyped;
http://my.firedoglake.com/ruthcalvo/2011/07/11/fracking-the-facts-right-along-with-the-earth/
Too cool.
As for smart phones as seismometers… bad idea. That’s just more government monitoring of your private device. I don’t like it.
Where are my manners?!
Good morning Turtle of Box, and good morning to all the other firepups.
Thanks for the post and host dood.
Good morning, pupses, and thank you, Box Turtle.
I’d be thrilled to power my house for $2500/ yr with photovoltaics.
“To bring these innovations to a stage of industrialization may only take a few years. This research was partly financed as a commission for Roth & Rau Switzerland, whose parent company, Meyer Burger, has already started the commercialization of machines built for assembling this type of heterojunction sensors.”
Doing that research and manufacturing here, right?/s
The world is not only eating our cheezburger, we are serving it to them. Want fries with that?
Anyway, the local pups do just as good a job. (They start whimpering before you feel the first jolt.)
Good morning everyone. I’m on my exercise bike with iPad. Not working out very well.
Interesting linkys, Box!
True.
As someone who grew up in California, I’d really like to know how any researcher could think a 3-4 second advanced warning would save lives.
3-4 seconds isn’t enough time to get off of a bridge, or a window washing platform, or to a lower floor of a building…
Earthquakes are fast-moving and mean. Knowing that it’s going to hit you 3-4 seconds before it does isn’t going to change anything.
They’re doing the monitoring anyway, without warrants. I’d like to get some good from being spied upon.
Just a few seconds warning could save lives. Get outside or get to a doorway.
Boxturtle (And Japan has an even higher smartphone density than we do)
You may well be right about not enough time. But the potential is such that it makes a few test runs worth a try.
We used to say the Government would give us just enough warning of an incoming nuke to kiss our ass goodbye.
Boxturtle (Dunno that the government would even do that now)
Interesting discussion on cracking on UP on Saturday. Unfortunately whoever put the show online really screwed it up. I finally bailed out and never watched the whole thing because the videos wouldn’t load properly. Sunday’s show was fine, so it wasn’t my error.
Good morning all and thanks for the postnhost boxturtle. Well done.
Who is the woman in the photo? I have no clue.
Welcome back Om. I missed you. Hope Abu is well.
Sticking to their terrific guests is recommended.
I liked, back in the day, to do science experiments now with Fukashima and fracking, f words, we are the science experiment.
To pull one’s phone out, check the alert, process the information, and begin to take action would negate any lead time.
Good for you! When people don’t recognize that, it gives me hope.
Do you recognize the other photo?
Boxturtle (It doesn’t receive much airtime, as the subject has never married a Kardeshian)
Oh that’s just Snooki. She’s the reason God pointed Sandy at the east coast.
That is FRACKING at #13. Apparently autocorrect doesn’t like fracking either. LOL
We got used to being the regulations, out here in Wild West territory.
You could protect your iphone anyway.
I think that autocorrect is Steve Jobs’ way of entertaining himself in the afterlife.
He’s just sitting around somewhere watching all the laughable autocorrect gaffes.
He looks familiar, but nope.
Good point. It might be enough time to toss your smartphone o’ choice onto a pillow or into a doorway.
Good morning! Missed you, too. Abu is fine now, thanks for asking. That pneumonia had the upper hand for a bit, though. Scary.
He was up on the ladder rescuing Mottyl at about 5:00 this morning. She and Arry had climbed the Christmas tree (again) but this time she had managed to wrap a string of lights around her midsection and he just about had to break out the wire cutters. She seems fine, but if we hadn’t been home….
Is that part of the Snooki problem?
Smooshing is the Snooki problem. I see how you could confuse that with stacking, though.
I have an iPhone 4S with Siri, and the hardware/software that provides that functionality also allows me to dictate instead of type (text mags,email, etc.) with sometimes hilarious results. There are words the software just doesn’t get.
In case I hadn’t said so before, yes, good to have you with us again. Climbing the tree is a hazard, eating the ornaments can be worse, but this bondage fixation is new to me.
I had this vision of a really distinctive sound alert that would make looking at the phone redundant.
My experience with earthquakes is basically zero. I dunno if an alert of this nature could be early enough to make a difference.
Boxturtle (If I was in Calif and it was available, I’d try it)
Whatever do you mien?
So who’s the guy in the other photo?
Telsa.
Boxturtle (One of the top scientists of all time)
Oh it gets worse than that! I mean waaay worse. I have learned not to send without looking it over. But you can verbally add punctctuation, which is neat. Not sure what happens if the word “comma” is actually part of the message, though.
Tesla? I never heard of Telsa so guessing thatis a typo. Where. Is autocorrect when you need it?
Thanks. Good to be back. You guys have done a great job.
I’m ready to take this tree down! We thought that not putting up ornaments might suffice this first year with kittens….
Not a typo.
Nikola Tesla at wiki.
Boxturtle (If you can build a tesla coil, you can have fun with fluorescent lights)
But your comment said “Telsa” at #36.
There are Tesla cars, too…hugely pricey and rare.
An alert of that nature probably couldn’t be early enough. Earthquakes that are large enough to threaten lives travel fast, and their strength dissipates the farther out they travel.
So if you’re x number of miles away, and the earthquake is traveling at y miles per second, you have z seconds between the initial strike/detection and when the quake hits you.
My thought is that z is not enough seconds for the actions of the alert system to take place, and the reactions of the people being alerted to take place.
Wiki says that primary waves travel about 5000 meters/second.
We have a couple layers of cheap plastic dangles we put at the bottom of the tree to keep the cats from breaking something valuable.
The dogs are amusing. They brush up against the tree and get decorations caught in their fur.
Boxturtle (jingle dog, jingle dog, jingle all the way…)
Wow. That link failed. Try this one.
Argh! Do not pick on the dyslexics or doG will get you.
Boxturtle (Read twice. Spell once)
I don’t remember having lots of problems with kittehs and the Christmas tree, other than they played with ornaments on the lower branches. But we kept them penned up at night when they were little. Could be we didn’t actually have very young kittens just at Christmas, though.
Morning, BoxTurtle!
I do recognize Tesla, but only because I just watched the Men Who Built America, which was almost as trashy as Jersey Shore.
Welcome…reminds me of years ago, still a teenager…we finally took the tree down on Christmas Day b/c the cat would not stop jumping into the tree….had such fun.
I was thinking about the fake fiscal cliff as excuse to cut SS and MC. There are evidently activities taking place around the country to protest SS cuts today – nothing near us, however. Move-on was the sponsor and a lot of them looked horribly ineffectual, like writing a holiday card asking your senator/rep to protect the safety net. Candlelight vigils were another activity. I’ll tell you what needs to be lit on fire, and it isn’t a candle.
Oi. I watched that last week. The fawning over Rockefeller and J P Morgan was pretty gross.
We concluded that basic fact = Einstein would be a nobody without the Universe.
It was certainly written from a Robber Baron point of view, wasn’t it?
Boxturtle (High school assignment: List the people that show missed)
Oh, I just thought it was your typing. LOL.
Not sure this morning’s experiment with my iPad on the exercise bike will work, although I was a little bit winded when I finished the 40 minutes.
Every time I tapped the iPad screen the controls under it on the bike beeped. I had to keep moving the iPad because the “keyboard” was under the holding bracket. And I suspect whatever “program” I had set was changing with every beep. I’m going to have to adjust the bike seat and wear my bike shorts. I’ve had this bike for years but rarely use it.
I may try my laptop tomorrow. Just call this a science experiment!
Jane, if you are still here, I was also thinking of ways to reach people who have no idea what is about to happen to our meager safety net. I’d love to see a short DVD of you or Scarecrow or one of our other writers explaining what is truly going on. We could host neighborhood meetings and discussions- there must be a way to educate people who only uses MSM, surely.
Showing the vid as an intro and basis for discussion, I should have said…
The medicare discussion on UP was excellent, too. David Cay Johnson is my hero. It spelled out exactly why raising the Medicare age is abysmal — won’t save money and will harm seniors. And yesterday’s interview with Dan Savage on marriage equality was really excellent, too.
I’ll go and look for that, thanks.
I can see you hanging the lappie a little ahead of you so you keep cycling harder to reach it.
Where the heck is demi this morning?
Hi, OmAli! Mercifully our kittens have ignored the tree so far.
We’d love to power our house with photovoltaics too… I have a feeling that it won’t happen, though, unless the power companies can figure out a way to control the technology and make massive profits.
Why don’t you email Jane directly with that idea. Excellent suggestions! There’s a “send us your tips” link on the right side of the page.
And W00t! We’re front paged at the mothership this morning. Nice!
She was taking alittle trip; just a few days, I think.
She’s taking some time off, feels like she’s limited her outlets recently. Same thing I do, occasionally.
Hi, Marion! Have had a single day yet to just veg out and enjoy retirement?? Seems like there has been all kind of not-fun things to have to do :). And I still want to see kitten photos!
Wow! So many good looking links I want to click on, but it will have to wait until later in the day.
Just in case any of you didn’t see it last night, Teddy put up a post about sending Bradley Manning a card for his birthday, December 17th including the address and the rules for receiving mail.
HA. That might work. Actually the bike has a bracket on the handlebars, as well as a bracket for a water bottle that accommodates a travel mug with my tea.
I’m sure the bracket is meant for a book or magazine, but I thought putting my ‘puter on it would be an incentive to ride AND hang out here first thing in the morning.
Needs some fine tuning, though.
Thanks! I am going to buy a card today!
You could rig the bike so that peddling charges the laptop battery *g*
Ermahgerd!
BT, you did it! You got Over Easy front paged!
3 cheers for BT!
I’ve been able to do a bit of vegging out, but not enough, what with Christmas bearing down… Kitten pix probably after the new year, if I can find a place to put them up. I used to use Webshots, but they’ve gone nuts. Photobucket will probably work, though…
It’ll happen. Right now, the power companies are looking at undercapacity overall and some serious problems in some areas. They need more generating capacity.
Nukes are effectively dead for any well managed utility and everything else requires extensive environmental pre-work before a single watt is generated. If just 10% of use were to move to solar, most of those plants would no longer be required.
It’s a net gain for the power companies.
Boxturtle (Couple those PV cells with the supercapacitor, and living offgrid becomes very possible)
Looking forward to it. I like Flickr, too.
Nothing to do with the pic of Snooki, none.
\Seriously, good going, BT.
We need a solar Manhattan Project. Martini Project, I’d call it.
More tragedy in NFL; yep, football builds character, along with drunks and spouse abuse. Must we be a country of gladiators who make ridiculous salaries and privilege….Yep. Call me a grump. Don’t let your kids grow up to play football….
How about Flickr?
Now what? The last thing I saw was about Jovan Belcher. Has something new happened since then?
Friend of mine calls it mindless violence and pageantry.
WooHoo! Success!
Now, where are our trolls? Surely, we’ve earned some trolls. Any fracking creationists out there?
Boxturtle (Or climate change deniers?)
Yes, a drunk driving homocide in Dalllas….And Dallas has quite a background of criminal behavior.
Third world countries are using attic solar water heaters far beyond us, and it makes amazingly good sense.
Really sickening…Folks just turn a blind-eye to the lethal snf illegal dimensions.
It even happens here. Three weeks of good photos from over easy and nada, then I post ONE Snooki…
Boxturtle (Next week, I find an excuse to post an SI swimsuit model)
Congrats, BT!
Gotta go, safe travels and safe home, pupses dears.
Recharge your batteries, Demi, and come back rested.
ohmmmm
Hope it does happen. Congratulations on being front page! I hope you’ll be a regular — great links and info.
Don’t limit it to solar. Geothermal, tide energy, wind are all valid. But we DO need one.
Boxturtle (If we let the government do that, I’d bet the call the project Clean Fission)
Look out, come Thursday I’ll have located sensational egg shots.
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Good morning Boxturtle. I really like the scientific articles. Keep up the great work!!
I wanna a troll too.
Seriously, way-to-go Over Easy crew. Well deserved font page.
My machine is having fits with FDL this morning. Is it just me?
It was a team effort. I’m guessing tptb saw the over easy thread was getting more posts than all the other early front paged posts put together and we seem to have staying power.
I’m amazed at how much time one of these takes to put together. I think I’ll stay one day a week and enjoy others work the other four days.
Boxturtle (Or maybe somebody just hit the wrong button)
Oldie…
How do you get the attention of everyone on the Dallas Cowboys?
Ask ‘Will the defendant please rise?’
On a serious note, the guys on Sports Center this morning had a serious debate about the issue of DUIs in professional sports, and all agreed that if getting a DUI can keep you from getting a job as a teacher or firefighter or janitor or anything else in the real world, it should keep you from working in the NFL.
DUI in college? No NFL for you.
DUI in the pros? Say goodbye to your job.
I agree with them wholeheartedly.
Hemp, Hemp , Hemp answers the energy storage problem that can be converted to … oil, diesel . Perfect solar converter without the toxic materials.
No research needed, no environmental impact. The problem is the GOP dinosaur ranchers with their wayback machines.
I’m settling into a ‘routine’ of gathering links throughout the week. If I see stories of interest on twitter, I retweet them so I can go back and find them later. If I find things through my online perusals, I bookmark them as ‘FOR BLOG’ to revisit later.
I have a reminder on my calendar to sit down at 7 tonight and write tomorrow’s post. I’ve set aside two hours.
I find that the toughest part is researching articles and finding relevant subject matter that hasn’t already been covered by other folks on FDL in recent days. FDL’s coverage is so comprehensive, both by the front page writers and the MyFDL diarists, that I’ve had a really difficult time finding new news.
This just cracked me up.
I like it. Never happen, though.
Thanks….good discussion. Instead they cover and excuse whatever they can, including the serious brain damage. I could rant, you see. Really, makes me nuts.
I’d like to think that it’s possible.
The NFL is a business that relies heavily on a positive public image. Without viewers, they are nothing. Enough public pressure might lead them to make a change along these lines.
Actually, I do something similar, collect links for my “Free For All” post all during the week. But I just start the post at MyFDL as soon as I have the first link, save drafts as I go, and then add to it all week, sometimes deleting stuff if it gets to be old news, adding stuff I see.
By Thursday my post is usually just about ready to go.
The NFLPA has made some strides in the right direction when it comes to player health and safety.
The last collective bargaining agreement succeeded in winning lifetime health care benefits for anyone who is on the field for a snap in a regular season game.
One snap, one play, you’re covered for life.
Progress. Not all the way there, but progress.
I don’t think there is anything in normal life more frightening than to feel ‘the earth move under your feet.’ I grew up around Seattle, and we had a lot of quakes that knocked out our windows and threw the shelves down. But the scary thing is that there is is simply no stability during those eternal seconds of pitching and rolling.
That’s a good idea. I think I’ll give that a shot for my post next week.
A slight aside – I realized last week that my post will fall on Christmas this year :) Looking forward to hosting a Christmas Over Easy, but will have to be a bit late because I have little ones.
I do the same thing. Fatster has stolen several good ones from me as well. It still takes two hours.
Boxturtle (But I’M learning from assembling the links, so it’s two hours well spent)
True, but remember that a lot of the fans in the stands are drinking, and probably candidates for a DUI on the way home. I’d bet drinking is more a part of NFL football than it is baskeball or baseball. Just a gut feeling with no supporting evidence.
There could at least be big visible fines for the players, though. Not holding my breath.
Don’t know….there was a period when Michael Irvin (?-not sure of the name) was in the arrest news every week….
Ugh. I don’t even venture into fatster’s threads to see if I’m duplicating info. Fatster’s linkfest is so extensive, I’d probably lose half my material.
I dislike the thought of making ONE mistake and being banned from your profession for life. Serve your time, pay your fine, and you’re square with society.
Boxturtle (If we’re going to put that rule in the NFL, it should also apply to politicians)
I saw something recently about starting salaries….Again, I was completely shocked. No wonder they are such Prima Donnas, with a life span like Vince Young now said to be outta money. What do we learn?
There was a deli in my childhood, at the shore, where the owner glued a quarter to the counter corner covered with some other goods but out of his eyesight or so we thought. Showed who the newbies were.
There are fines for that type of thing now. DUIs actually result in a suspension under the current rules. 3 games without pay, I believe.
As for drinking being a part of the culture of the NFL, it certainly is.
I’m of the opinion that alcohol should not be served at sporting events. The resulting DUIs, fights, bad behavior, etc., overwhelm any possible benefit there could be to serving the drinks.
Or move under your butt, for that matter. Many years ago we had a very small quake in west Michigan (not sure where the epicenter was, but we could feel it). I was sitting in my office chair when the tremor came, and it was an extremely unsettling feeling.
My sister and BIL live in SanFran and probably don’t even notice the little tremors.
There is a lot of room between one mistake and the current ignore the issues…and let them be heroes. Of course, they have leaders like Jerry Jones….(gag)
The coming concussion lawsuits will relegate football to the same standing as Lions and Christians get togethers.
True…reminds me of time at a NO Saints game a NO drunk poured a drink into my fairly new shoe….Just pigs….;)
Record-high levels of compensation in all professional sports, yet the young men of the NFL, NBA, and MLB are poorly equipped to handle the money and fame.
I think business or financial management focuses in college should be a requirement to enter the pros. I also think that a 4 year degree should be required.
Professor Wolff (thanks again SD!) taught me that professional sports is a form of slavery.
That is the accurate and cruel comparison…So why is it such a loved pass-time; the answer is scary.
As a legislative assistant in the MD House, introduced a bill to cut off sales of alcohol one hour before the end of any event. This after taking my kids to Pimlico and watching a driver almost unable to get keys into his car drive away into traffic.) It was not popular.
The NFL has obviously been negligent when it comes to player safety. If they learn from their mistakes and change the game, good. And if Roger Goodell and Co have to fork over 10s or 100s of millions to players for concussions in the past, more good.
Major League Baseball cuts off drink sales in the 7th inning. Great idea, but not good enough in my book.
There are a lot of players who get injured before they get into the Bigtime. High schoolers with permanent injuries are common and ought to have some of the profits from the pro sports going into their care, as well, imho.
It’s a beginning, but if the concessionaires just sold alcohol free drinks without letting the consumers know, it might actually help. They’d scream bloody murder if they found out, of course.
I have to depart this rant….Thanks….Maybe we can develop an action-plan, voice, etc. Obviously a huge problem that set dangerous examples for our kids. Thanks.
You’re right. I’d never even considered that.
(and I injured my knee as a pitcher in high school!)
BoxTurtle. A pic of my main man. Nicoli Tesla. But who’s the broad ?
I didn’t know either. You’re obviously an old fart like me.
Apparently that is someone named Snooki.
Earlier when I was on my exercise bike with my iPad, the two photos weren’t side-by-side, so I didn’t even notice the first one until BoxTurtle asked me if I knew the other one.
Snooki.
There’s actually a reason why I picked her, rather than Paris Hilton or The Britster or such.
Last year, there were headlines allover about Snooki being in trouble in Italy. Finally, I had to ask: “What’s a Snooki?”. I figured from the newsplay it was an ambassador or something. When I found out a Snooki was a poorly behaved, unladylike reality star with highly questionable morals she became my image for all that is wrong with the news.
I include a photo of her, and Over Easy FINALLY get’s frontpaged. *sigh*
Boxturtle (She sells a lot of tabloids)
(And spray-tan)
Good Morning everybody, meteorological event over the last twelve hours changed our scenery. Also required some physical exertion and re-acquaintance with a shovel and a broom. Time for some breakfast. Great diary and congrats with being front-paged, Box Turtle. Nice.
I think of Tesla (I knew the face but didn’t connect a name, I didn’t even recognize the woman) primarily as an engineer and inventor, not a scientist, although the area between scientist and engineer is very gray.
The Tesla coil is in everyday use, and will be until the IC engine dies out completely. But then, the power supplies that run the computer and such have much to thank Tesla’s work.
But no sea shells, I guess. :-(
As well as the electric motors in your EV.
When engineering enters new territories it becomes science.
Speaking of Fukushima…
Here is a curious video of an event at Fukushima Daaichi that looks like the video was doctored to obscure…something. The person who posted this is a reputable source over at enenews, a great source for all info Fukushima. In the video, it looks like a black fog rolls in and behind the “fog” there is some sort of fire going on. Remember that TEPCO keeps cropping and photoshopping (poorly) pictures of the loading dock in the building housing SPF#4. So, it looks like something happened on the ever present Fukushima cameras and was then edited out so we can’t know what happened.
I did not recognize Tesla.
I did recognize Snooki.
I blame it on having played football.
Oh Dear…you are not implying that FDL has become superficially exploitive ?
My my my.
Ok, so who’s that?
What the hell?!
Britney Spears.
Duh.
I know that’s Pooky on the right. But who’s the other gal? Give us a hint.
Engineering never “becomes” science. That’s fuzzy thinking. Engineering can push on science, particularly in solving an important but presently an intractable problem.
Don’t confuse the two. The scientist is not interested in the application or whether there is application to their discoveries. Engineering exists to find and do the applications.
There is huge crossover between the two disciplines, but they do operate with different goals.
Hint: Who informed who, Tesla or Maxwell?
They really don’t want us to see that loading dock. My theory is that we’d see identifiable equipment remains that would give a better idea of the damage. Like the loading crane or the chiller.
Boxturtle (Another theory is that you’d see weapons grade plutonium. I disbelieve that)
I’m not too good at science, so I feel a little overwhelmed by the links, but I did wade in. I have to say science and coffee are not a good mix for me, I get the jitters over the fright of what is happening in our world. Thank goodness for those creatures on the bottom of the ocean, maybe they are out of reach of what we are doing up top. Lordy.
Congrats on front page, BoxTurtle and diners! Nice to see your fonts, Om. Hope all is well with little Nagi, ysd.
No, never. But I am going to find an excuse to use a photo of some other tabloid heroine next Monday and see if I get front paged again.
Boxturtle (I could use Heidi Montage matched with antigravity stories)
Huge water investment in nuclear for that 8 percent. Well, or for any percent. News about solar, including the ongoing discoveries is always good and continues to make sense.
Thanks, BoxTurtle. This was an excellent idea- a regular science thread!
I didn’t know this thread existed until today, Box Turtle. I hope this does get front paged, but in any case, I’ll be looking for it.
We go live every morning, Monday through Friday, at 8 Eastern.
You’re the one whose confused. Confusing Western “science” with real science. Ask any Caribbean small farmer. Then discard that Eurocentric bullcrap where it belongs. . . in the dumpster fire that is Western Civ.
Over and out. :)
Queequeg might have understood this. Starbuck, maybe not.
Thanks for asking what I was thinking!
That’s plain nuts! Did the Caribbean farmer invent the computer, or any part of it? Then why are you here using it to trash the very process that brought it to you?
Besides, you know zero about me or my studies.
Oh, thanks! I thought the person on the left looked like Tesla but wasn’t sure. Had no clue about the person on the right, tho I guessed she might be a Kardashian or a Snooki.
Part of my hidden agenda is to get people overwhelmed by science exposed to it. Science isn’t really that hard or confusing, it just seems so because scientists have their own language (What profession doesn’t?) and they frequently assume that everybody has the background to understand what they’re saying.
The more exposure you get, the less magical it seems. You will know when you’ve finished the first part of your journey to understanding when you realize science is more luck than genius.
Boxturtle (Just because it doesn’t do what it’s supposed to doesn’t mean it’s worthless – Edison)
Over Easy is every morning, with a different host and a different general direction each day. The hosts official title is “catherder”. Stop by anytime to discuss whatever.
Boxturtle (nothing is off topic and recipes containing bacon are always welcome)
Science is about discovery in a formal, repeatable process. There are a set of basic steps to discovery which become the methodology even as the complication unfolds.
Scientific research had been seen as a way to zero in on the correct answer. But in addition, it has become a method to expose possible avenues of study unknown until the original experiment is done.
Yet, it is deceptively simple.
I’ve seen the name and thought it was about breakfast!
Nah! Just so many threads, including Marcy’s, Down with Tyranny and a favorite local site:
http://www.bojack.org
BTW, I get into trouble with my scientific views there as well! /s
You will never get in trouble for your scientific views here. You might get long held and cherished beliefs trashed, disproven, and tossed on the dustbin of history. Or you might have the chance to do that to someone else.
In either case, YOU will be fine.
Boxturtle (You get to sit quietly, memorize obscure facts, solve heavy math…science has it all!)
“You get to sit quietly, memorize obscure facts, solve heavy math…science has it all!”
Yes indeedy! Which is why my studies include all of that and more.
(Solving the heavy math I’ll leave to others, but I do like to read the results and how they got there!)
60 Mins had segment on saving tortoises in Africa last night.
fracking = cowtails falling off.
and, Andrea Michell busily pushing Republican memes on Medicare cuts…we the sheeple expected to believe that fake frame instead of facts. Raise the caps.
There are no medicare tax caps.
Sorry, but you don’t get to define science, let alone as something that’s exclusive of practical application. Your comment about the Caribbean farmer and the computer only digs the hole deeper.
I make no assumptions about your area of study. And my comment was tongue in cheek. But I stand by what I said. Your put-down of Kris was firmly in the eurocentric masculinist science camp.
I have attention and focus problems sometimes, and the first time I read this comment, I simply assumed that the kittens were the ornaments. Or that you had a string of kitten lights.
Nagi is doing better than I could have hoped. He sleeps through the night cuddling in bed, doesn’t yowl at night. He’s playful and energetic. What a great cat.
Meh. I just chalk shit like that up to the internet being a lousy medium for nuanced communication.
Who needs a lecture? Enjoy the exchange….
Completely agree; nothing like the superior “expert” voice to set my teeth on edge…..
I don’t define anything. It’s not mine. I am only the messenger.
As Box Turtle suggests, get acquainted with scientific discovery and it’s processes. we are all living with the results, good and bad. Much of the bad is due to improper application of scientific discovery in the political arena. Some of that, in turn is due to the fact that scientists speak science, and politics don’t understand it, or debase it.
Have a nice day.
Anyone so free with advice….yes, should learn to use its/it’s….Since you seem to like picky.
ZOMG, I’m so lame. Thanks! ;-)
Though, of course, Britster could have been the nickname of the ash-dieback fungus, assuming you could find a cute photo.
Thanks for coming out!
There’s no way I’d do the same things with the ash-dieback fungus that I’d do with Britney.
/inappropriate
I missed that second its. I didn’t proof read it. The first usage is correct, as I know.
My bad.
You are welcome.
I think that’s a sentiment that everyone can get behind.
Oh the lulz!
Thanks for the great post today BT, and thanks to all who have commented. This has been great.
I’ll lurk around for the remainder of the day, as usual, but I’ve got some actual work to accomplish. Will be in and out.
Really? That’s quite an accusation. Perhaps you cab further gild that lily and submit it to the Luddites at Faux news.
Marie Curie would be shocked to learn she was a card carrying member of the dreaded “eurocentric masculinist science camp”.
Snooki, btw, is the missing evolutionary link between humans and oompa loompas.
I think she’s the missing link between Something Else and Oompa Loompa’s. You have the wrong side of the evolutionary tree.
Boxturtle (It goes Snooki -> OompaLoompa -> Boehner)
It’s a no-boehner
You certainly produced an interesting thread, Over….Thanks.