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Greetings!
Two weeks ago, I warned you about giant flying carnivorous squid. This week I warn you of the stinkbug invasion. It seems the best plan for dealing with this a wasp that parasitizes stinkbug eggs.
Is it possible that wild bees are better pollinators than domesticated bees? Beekeepers, please comment!
Black holes are cool. This one is spinning about 84% of the speed of light.
Aw, crap. Still, operations are proceeding one the backup and it seems likely to me they’ll be able to recover the failed computer. I was going to put a line here about how harsh the radiation environment on Mars was, but I encountered this that I missed first time. Mars ain’t as bad as I thought. And I learned something today.
It appears as though economic reality is finally catching up with fission power. This would have happened earlier, if our government hadn’t assumed significant risks for the nuke plants. Insurance costs alone would have killed the idea. How do you insure the cost of evacuating Cleveland?
Remember those six leaking tanks at Hanford? That may be up to 76 tanks, but the rest are thought secure. And of course we believe them.
One top of that, we have this. Illness caused by wind farms. The condition is not without controversy. Wind power is still one of the best options we have. And it’s possible that large ones could reduce hurricane impact. But if they can have that kind of impact, what natural processes driven by the wind will we foul up?
Another step forward for superconductors. Unlike the stuff I mentioned last week, this stuff is actually usable. As with most science, there are ways metamaterials can be abused. However, such a sensor could be a peeping tom or it could detect plastic land mines without digging.
This could be creepy or exciting. We connected the brains of rats so that teaching one caused the other to learn the same information.
This could be big. The first functional cure for HIV in an infant.
This IS big. The UK is investing about 88 Mlb in a telescope as big as all the rest of ‘em put together.
Boxturtle (Darn wordpress ate my first attempt! *GROWL*)
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Good morning, BoxTurtle. Truly a drive-by today. Headed back home from weekend in Indy, and have to be back for an early afternoon appt., so no time to even read links. They look interesting as always and I will read them later today!
Thanks for post host! Laterz!
Apparently iPad autocorrect doesn’t like “postnhost” :^D
Thanks, BT, wind is necessary for some pollination, so should be good. Maybe redirection of nuclear fallout could be addressed as well… okay, am a dreamer.
Good Morning, BT and Pups
Thanks for the post. I’m skeptical about the claims of “illness” related to the wind turbines. Doesn’t seem like there is verifiable data.
Guy sounds like someone who might shake his fist at the sky.
Good morning BT and pups.
Thanks for the postnhost.
NE Iowa getting hit with up to 10″ of snow.(But they are having school on time). :)
Pfft. There are 47 people on my street that suffer from one or more of these, and they don’t live anywhere near a wind turbine.
Good morning firedogs. Thanks for the post and host BT.
Hey ya, Jimmy.
Ten inches of snow does not compute for me. Stay warm and safe. How can they make kids go to school in that?
I’m trying to re-locate info on a chemical released by wind-turbines during their operation for which VESTAS is the main producer, and, we must recall the dollar figures spent by traditional energy in lobbying against “greener,” energy and my recollection is fuzzy there, it was likely one might well lose sleep over that also.
Back after some kitchen science; natural yeast propagation.
Morning, everyone! Lots of interesting stuff, BT, tied together nicely. Stinkbugs! Black holes! Maybe there a solution there …. Oy.
I took my kitchen’s status from ‘toxic dump’ to *just* ‘dump’ yesterday. *Proud.*
High power lines have also been accused of affecting the health of animals pastured near them, do not know if any actual connection has ever been proved.
U’re cracking me up.
And, good for you. I sometimes call some of the leftovers in my fridge science experiments.
See? I’m staying on topic.
Redirect it to where? Well, I suppose a few more curies wouldn’t hurt Hanford or Fukushima.
It does worry me that wind turbines will take a lot of energy out of the air and we have no idea how important that energy might be. Will we see failed pollination in areas downwind of the towers?
Boxturtle (Remember how long we tried to reduce emissions to just CO2, not knowing about Co2?)
In case you all missed it, I borrowed from cbl yesterday, for Food Sunday; http://my.firedoglake.com/ruthcalvo/2013/03/03/sunday-food-lemon-cake-to-impress-folks/
Straight up? Or back atcha. Anyway, needs work.
Very good point, Kris.
Yeah. There MIGHT be nothing there, there might be a problem. More study is needed, preferably from some entity not connected with the turbine industry or civic beautification.
I also note that Fox picked this up and flogged it a bit. They’re strongly pro-carbon, pro-nuke, so I guess that’s expected.
Boxturtle (I actually had to look about to find someone other than Faux reporting it)
I’ll go read your post and you can go look at my pictures. Dad and I built our first garden box yesterday out of scrap pallets.
Hey there demi,
We have missed so much school that they are threatening the seniors that they will graduate a week later. (They will get them in, feed them lunch and dismiss at 1 so they get to count it as a school day.)
:-)
Why, yes, we are all on topic. *Proud.*
I found this article that says the amount of radiation from power lines is minimal…
But, this could be another situation where one could find articles backing both sides of the argument.
That one I have experienced myself. Just standing under them, even when I was pooh-poohing any momentary effects, I could feel it, but I am *very* sensitive. I sense odd things that are later proven to be trued. I would not live in a house IN a turbine farm. Or next door.
Lovely! Here it’s time to till in the snow, for the nitrogen. Really.
The only chemical “released” by wind turbines is what they use to clean the blades, along with some small leakage of lubricants. Most blades are water cleaned, though I remember some use a chemical described as “souped up” Windex.
Boxturtle (Ya don’t wanna be underneath a windmill when the cleaner comes on)
Trouble is, some people are sensitive and others are not. So, it’s not like saying 99% of people with this stage and this type of cancer die …. and they don’t know why these things affect some people and not others. We do not understand energy in an around our bodies and the effects. We used to not be able to detect this stuff at all … so science marches on and these mysteries are revealed, slowly. Well, that’s my view. *No* *conspiracies.*
Having lived at one point right beside the train track, I suspect you get used to it. When a train would go by, the visitors would look concerned, and we weren’t immediately aware what was the problem.
This stuff all reminds of the concerns about GMO foods. Seems there are serious concerns that were pooh-poohed (with no science at all) for years.
Connection disproven, IIR. Can’t find the study. Basic conclusion was that given the distance from the power lines, the earths magnetic field has greater impact.
Cell phone companies tried to use this study to show there was no risk from cell emissions. Apples and oranges.
Boxturtle (The inverse square law and 30+ ft of air makes for great protection)
I’m glad the cake went over well :) The cbl is now making cookies like crazy. She’s discovered the joys of piping intricate icing patterns. Yesterday she was doing gorgeous blue bonnet flowers.
That is definitely part of the dynamic! I get used to some occasional things that at first make me feel quite ill and which my specialist would agree to treat.
Did somebody say cake?
Far(m) Out!, as we used to say.
We bought a large plastic compost container yesterday. Sounds like we’re singing from the same hymnal.
Have you considered putting the box on bricks or something to raise it off the ground. Might make it easier on oldnslow’s back.
Statistics can be used to prove anything. My favorite of the moment is that this admin has grown Big Government, since the proportion of empoyment by gov’t has increased as private employment decreased. Obama has also sucked your precious bodily fluids! since birth rates have gone down.
Yup. LOL: some people complain about living over magnetic spots!
I hear you and don’t disagree.
We all have different tolerances.
I think it was being hyped for insurance claims, but that was awhile back.
Yup. That’s why you need a large sample size. But remember how long the tobacco companies stalled on the statistics when there was really something there.
We need to be cautious. Remember when CFC’s were great? non-toxic, easy to make, compress well. Took us decades to realize we were killing the ozone.
But I would suggest that the worst predicted impacts of wind power are
still less than the proven impacts of carbon or nuke power.
Boxturtle (Do not let perfection be the enemy of improvement)
Do eat the flowers!
Don’t tell my mister.
Imagine science being a polarizing element.
I hate it when WordPress does that.
Good morning, and thanks for the good news Boxturtle!
Thanks for the National Geographic stinkbug article. Somehow I knew I’d find this sentence:
Cool postnhost, thanks!
Plastics. It’s the future.
(from The Graduate)
Good morning everyone.
Thank you for the post BoxTurtle.
When the people doing the research are employed by the people who make the product, the conclusion is forgone. The only question is how to get to the conclusion without seeming so stupid that you have raise your political contributions.
Boxturtle (Not sure Monsantos GMO would be profitable if lobbying costs were included)
The bed will sit about 2 feet off the ground once the box is filled. I don’t think we’ll elevate it any more than that because wind is a big problem out here. Wouldn’t want the whole damn thing to blow over.
Science is the enemy when you’re determined to damage everyone else’s world for your own profit.
Nice KrisA,
If that is water permeable black weed barrier, very nice. Otherwise if it is just black plastic I would nix it in favor of the former, or substitute a 2 inch layer of peat moss to keep water from washing soil through the bottom spaces between the boards.
Our garden is under two feet of snow and I see people in sandals. You are making more than my thumbs green (with envy or maybe longing).
JC, we are going to get hit with the same system.
Is it snowing at your place already? The weather forcasters out of Rockford are saying 1-2″ today and the grand slam tonight into tomorrow morning.
If you are getting some snow right now, they are behind schedule on the arrival of the storm.
Good morning all and thanks for the postnhost BoxTurtle.
The box has 3 “feet” under it so is raised a little. (top just over knee high) What would help my back is if Kris’s brother had helped him take the new refridgerator off of the truck Saturday instead of wimping out and letting me do it.
I remember that. Today, I think the advice would be to become a tort lawyer.
Boxturtle (The impact of plastics. it’s the future!)
Exactement! This is what I have learned while getting older … many ideas are touted as true or proven or even wonderful or harmless and oops, later, the view changes. They don’t issue apologies or retractions, either!
And, basically, I like the idea of wind turbines. Far better than nuclear, which still has defenders, as we know. I read the other day that small, domestic wind turbines may be a good direction. I like that idea ~ along with similar ideas about domestic solar.
That sounds about right. I found this product, and it looks like you guys saved a lot of money making the box yourself.
It is a landscaping fabric, water permeable and weed-blocking.
It was 77 here yesterday, and supposed to be 87 today :) It’s okay to be jealous.
Kris, the pictures look great and a great way to re-purpose the pallets.
Remember when EGGS were bad for us? My body said no. And margarine was better than butter which was BAD. My body said no. And coffee will kill you! My body said no. I listen to my body.
Frontpaged again!
Over Easy Rulez!!
Boxturtle (yes, yes, I know it’s impolite to gloat. Write me a Sternly Worded Letter!)
That is a landscape fabric in the last picture. We had a partial roll in the garage and I figure it will help the wood live a little longer so we will line the boxes with it.
You’re right on, again, Ruth.
(Must be hell to live with you, Ruth.:)
(figured you would go FP when the boss poked her head in)
What is the benefit of plowing the snow as opposed to letting it melt? I’m guessing it works the nitrates down deeper, nearer the roots?
Didn’t realize until watching NOVA the other night that the energy in lightning is what breaks down the nitrogen in the atmosphere, alllowing nitrates to be carried to the soil via rain.
Thanks, BoxTurtle, for the post and good morning, pupses.
Yep! They charge $220 for a smaller version of what we made yesterday.
Granted, it’s prettier wood. It will last longer than what we built. But if this one falls apart at the end of the season, who cares? We’ll build another next year.
We spent a total of $9.68 for nails, and finished the box in about 2 hours of solid work.
That was my favorite part AC2. That we were taking this scrap pallets and giving them new life. They’re going to grow food now.
Oh, so the old fridge really was on it’s last legs, huh? Sorry for that.
It really is nice to have a strong, young man around to help with the Heavy Lifting. If they don’t wimp out.
(But, will Ollie help eat the veggies?)
How many boxes do you plan to build? That looks great.
That’s a great sequence of pictures ~ heck, even I could do it with those pictures. But, where’s your snow? :-)
Oh, for got to add the farmers here started planting last week.
We had originally talked about 4, but after seeing the size of the finished product I think we’ll do two. It’s pretty large.
Lightening is strange stuff. One of the links the WordPress ate was to a study showing that lightening produces gamma rays and antimatter.
So it breaks down nitrogen, too. Cool!
Boxturtle (A lot of energy in one of those bolts)
Ollie went up on Craigslist Saturday afternnon.
Like directing young hopefuls to Wall Street/finance, this assumes profit is worth the harm done. But all lawyers are ‘tort’ lawyers, in some way.
That’s purty … but the price is scary! And what Kris and oldnslow made is much bigger.
Works it into root territory and keeps it from running off. If you want to worry, you can consider what happens when the snow leeches pollutants out of the air over cities, brings it down to the earth instead of letting it blow away. If you’re determined to worry.
Sure … rub it in!
Wonderful. My guy mounted our flat screen last weekend. He bought hardware and brackets and diddled around. He spent 25 dollars when the cheapest one sold at best buy was around a hundred.
Counting pennies. That 75 dollars saved will pay for a month of Sonny’s car insurance, which is now on our tab.
Just stopping by…Good Morning All.
Full day…just about out.
Thanks to all who had ideas on yesterday’s
thread. I thought we cleared up some
confusion. My best, B
Bad lawyer joke:
What do you need when you have three lawyers buried up to their necks in sand?
A) More sand.
B) Honey. And Ants.
C) Depending on the distance to the hole, maybe a 5 iron?
Boxturtle (Don’t forget to tip your server!)
Not being in N.TX, my hoe hand is itchy, usually I have lettuce up by now.
Snort! A dad’s gotta do what a dad’s gotta do.
(Mom said it was okay? Who’s gonna eat those cookies?)
OmAli, I hope you are sticking around.
I have a question for you. I have a marble shelf approximately 2′ by 8″ and engraved into it are the abbreviated words if that is what you call it “Hatchee-Lu-Ga-Yek” it came from a cousin who is now deceased and I was trustee who cleaned up the house after his death.
I have no idea what it means but they had a second home in Florida and traveled through your area going to and from the second home.
You used the phrase “Ten Spears” when SouthernDragon passed away so I am hoping you are familiar with the term.
Here is a preview of the program
the Earth From Space
Highly recommended.
Lightning produces anitmatter????? Run! Run for your lives!!!!! :-))
We don’t need no stinkin’ Purty.
However, wait until they’re through presenting your case. Just a hint.
As Kris said we are thinking 2 but we were also eyeballing a half whiskey barrel for growing herbs. I would really like to be able to make pic de gallo from our own veggies so we need cilantro. And rosemary and tyme and….
Sounds like your guy knows what he’s doing :)
I thought so too, Bev.
Have a good day. Get it all done and then tonight you can put your feet up.
(That’s what grandkids are for)
Just a thought, check with the Smithsonian?
Yup, positrons. But don’t worry. If you’re close enough to a large enough lightening bolt to get hit with a positron, only your ashes will know the difference. Otoh, the gamma ray intensity WOULD be dangerous if you were close enough to the stroke. This is actually a concern for aircraft.
Boxturtle (Hmm…note to self: A few lightening links next week)
Mmmmmmmmm, cilantro.
Here’s another neat idea for an herb or other kind of garden.
Wagon Wheel.
The noise is air rushing back in, so you;re too late by the time you know you’re anti’ed.
Seconding demi, I hope so too.
Got some programming/testing to do: BBL.
I wish I could help you, but I don’t know what that might mean.
Sounds like a charming way to go, then! :-))
Oh, I hope those wasps come to live in my yard. Those *$&(@$! stink bugs certainly do… Nasty, nasty things that live up to their name.
(And the obligatory FYWP for eating BoxTurtle’s first try.)
Well, I’m a little biased, but I think he’s a genius.
Sure helps to have someone Handy around.
Lightning is sounding like a very interesting topic!
She was not, in fact, consulted on that project. There are more than enough cookie eaters around believe me.
You need some of this;
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/oqgM2eOikdMamji8VFkx-Q8szHUx-OY9EC-wKjAl8ho?feat=directlink
thanks for all the cool links, reading and recuperating today.
I want to thank you for your nice comment about Picky yesterday.
So, Thanks!
Woo Hoo!
Weird Science. (Magic and technology, voodoo dolls and chants. Electricity. We’re makin’ weird science)LOL. Oingo Boingo.
BTW, reading now that the Brown Marmorated stink bug was accidentally introduced.
We’ll be vewwy qwiet.
Thank you Ruth, what a great idea.
It is a beautiful piece that someone took the time to even bevel the edges in shaping it.
I have it sitting on the mantle of the fireplace so it shows the words. If I hung it, whatever I put on it would cover the words and that would be a shame.
That always strikes me as denying that we’re a Force of Nature. The one that thought bunnies were a food source that Australia ought to use, and the like.
If Jane checks back in – All 38 episodes of The Tudors are now available to stream instantly on Netflix. I started watching them again last week :)
I’m guessing you know EXACTLY where I’m coming from wrt wordpress.
It was certainly a Good Thing last night that I did not know how to find a WordPress developer.
Boxturtle (I had everything else I needed: Fire, pincers, and a shovel)
I do know that many rivers in this part of the country have retained their native american names and contain the ‘hatchee’ suffix, so I think it must refer to a river.
I’m getting ready to start some soup. I’ll send some to you.
Best wishes too.
It was a pleasure to see him.
Yup, another invasive species.
But we need to get away from the idea of invasive species, I think. Earth is now one big biosphere, not a grouping of geographically isolated biospheres. We gotta get used to zebra mussels in the Great Lakes, pythons in the everglades, and yet another species of stinkbug.
Boxturtle (And let’s not forget rabbits in Australia)
Nice, and I find this about it;
http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/general-gun-related-off-topic-stuff/32017-meaning-word-hatchee.html
BTW – for everyone having the problem of a refresh jumping you back to your last posted comment, I’ve found a little workaround.
Click reply under the last comment on the page, then click the red/white ‘X’ on the top right of the ‘Leave a Reply’ box. This changes the URL in your browser from one tied to your last comment to one tied to the end of the thread as it sits on your screen. When you refresh, you get the fresh content at current point on the page rather than jumping back up to your last comment.
Stuff like this always makes me make a note to save things on word. And I never do. You’d think I’d learn, but nooooo.
Oh, HELL no I don’t! It’s lovely, but it was 31° here this morning and that’s enough to make my joints get all creaky. (And to think that I used to ski every weekend, and taught ice skating outside at Wollman Rink in Central Park when I was a wee thing…)
Sending you an honorary armadillo.
Cabin Fever to me is what sets in during months-long sieges of over 100F.
That is pretty much what I have observed, also, just from the years of canoeing here in TN, NC, AL and north GA.
Some cool science-related factoids.
I would love to see it. Maybe sometime you could do a digital photograph and link to it. Sounds like a beautiful and special piece.
The sun is up now and I’m going to start on my To Do list. Or, should I call it my Ta Da! list.
Thanks for the information and sharing and all.
Later…
Thank you Om, I really appreciate both you and Ruth with your ideas.
I was considering doing a PUAC sometime about heirlooms. It would be neat if we could all share photos of special things in our homes.
Now THAT I relate to! In deep summer it’s sometimes almost too hot to work in the garden at 7 AM, and unless you enjoy working in the dark the early, early morning is the only solution.
Great thread, pupses and BT. Hope to look back in later.
That would be fun, would love to read it and contribute.
I bet you have a lot of fine pieces. In order for folks to share photos, we’d have to give some advance notice so we can all have them ready.
Thanks for your imput, Om.
Have a good day.
I really enjoyed you PUAC on Saturday. Thank you again.
Damn, dropped the “r” in your.
That’s a great idea sister demi.
Great thread this AM at the University of Over Easy. :)
Oh, you are so very welcome, Mr. Canyon.
Saturday mornings are extra special. Sunday’s are fun too. Oh, so are the weekday mornings. :)
It’s All Good.
Oboy! Something for the Husky’s to play with that they can’t easily tear up.
Boxturtle (I’ll be careful this time, I thought the same thing about the live lobster)
:)
I’ve got a lot of pulling weeds to accomplish today. The ground is just perfect for it. Moist, but not mud and not cement either.
Another of my favorite things is that pop sound when you get the whole weed root.
(I haven’t mentioned in a while what a cheap date I am.)
LOL. Bad Catholic joke:
What do you have when you have four priests?
A fifth.
(Don’t blame me, I heard that in AA)
This incorrect use of terminology really bugs me. The velocity of light is measured in units of length per units of time. Rate of spin is measured in rotations per unit time.
So if an astronomer wants to say the periphery of a black hole is approaching the speed of light, that would be correct, but to say that it is spinning at the speed of light does not make sense.
Don’t blame the real scientist, it was my poor choice of words. Hopefully, I’ll remember and not make this error in the future.
Boxturtle (Maybe the sphinx will turn a handspring, too)
The Catholics have always had a good sense of humor about themselves.
I had a cousin who was a nun. She happened to like to fish. I picked her up one day at the convent and you should have seen Mother Superior’s eye roll as my cousin crossed in front of the alter and genuflected. Wearing fishing waders and carrying a fly rod.
Boxturtle (My cousins comment “Mother, the church has a long historic connection to fish”)
Following your link, that’s what National Geographic says, so I don’t blame you. It’s probably a good thing actuall, now I have to go and learn a little bit about the accuracy of the estimation of the diameter of the hole, whether or not it only spins on one axis, if so what happens at the “poles” of one, etc. etc.
Love your Monday posts man, sorry to be such a pedant.
Oh, that’s hilarious! Great visual.
Apologies aren’t needed, part of the benefit of these posts is when someone knowledgeable corrects ‘em.
Better question: Does a black hole actually have a radius or is it a dimensionless point?
I read a paper that theorizes that the black holes we see aren’t true singularities because a true singularity can’t exist. When a black hole MUST actually collapse into a singularity, we get a Big Bang.
Boxturtle (sure makes some of the black hole math easier)
The Catholics really should copyright that eye-roll. It’s as iconic as Curly’s “Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk”.
Boxturtle (They ought to copyright that little *sigh* they emit when disgusted with the world, too)
The natural fix?
http://www.sciencerecorder.com/news/researchers-volcanic-eruptions-offset-recent-global-warming/
That was one of the links I had that WP ate (FYWP). One of the things climate deniers harp upon is that earth is not warming as fast as the models predict, thus the models are wrong so the entire theory is wrong, thus DRILL BABY DRILL.
That study shows that if you adjust the models to allow for volcanic emissions, the data matches predictions.
Boxturtle (predicting that study gets ignored at best or maybe buried)
Good morning, BT and friends. I have some history, or at least nostalgia for you.
On this day in 1969 the just-founded Union of Concerned Scientists organized what were then called teach-ins on college campuses to protest “the misuse of science,” of which the main but not only illustration was the Nixon administration’s promoting an anti-ballistic missile system, in a significant escalation of the Cold War. (I’m sorry but FDL’s system for entering links is not working for me this AM. For UCS see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Concerned_Scientists. Three years later a treaty limiting ABMs was signed with the USSR; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ballistic_Missile_Treaty.)
It was one of the high points of my life, because I got to chair the event that took place at the University of Maryland at College Park, under the slogan “March 4 is a movement, not a day.” I can’t remember who spoke on the ABM, but the great radical journalist Sy Hersh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour Hersh) was there, speaking if my memory is correct on biological warfare (this was several months before his expose on the My Lai massacre which got him a Pulitzer, and we did indeed have biological warfare in Maryland, at Ft. Detrick in Frederick County).
On another occasion that week I got to go on local television (Metromedia, later bought out by Murdoch for Fox) to speak against the ABM along with Rep. John Conyers (D, Michigan; yes, he was around way back then). All in all it was a great time.
Thanks for letting me share.
I’m pretty sure a dimensionless point can’t spin, but now that I’m armed with the knowledge that our three-dimensional universe might just be a holigraphic projection of information from the two-dimensional surface of an event horizon, I’m ready to get on with Monday. Sometimes I get the feeling the most brilliant physicists among us are just a group of kids in a dorm room on acid.
No, thank you, EF.
Wonderful story.
Neat story! That ABM treaty likely prevented an even more expensive arms race.
The sad part is that the ABM’s got built anyway, just a couple decades later.
Boxturtle (The best defense to a ballistic missile strike is good trade relations)
You have a funny bone, hotdog.
Do college kids still Do acid I wonder?
True. But when dealing with black holes, remember that what they’re measuring is the radiation given off by material flowing into the black hole. Which can and does spin.
The only direct measurement I’m aware of (Corrections, please!) was obtained by using a black hole as a gravitational lens, thereby measuring its mass based on how much light bends.
Boxturtle (Was also fascinated to discover that fluid dynamics equations describe Black Holes well)
if their parents are still telling them not to do so, yes.
Boxturtle (As a teenager, orders from parents not to do something was all the reason I needed)
Well, ya, I totally understand the anti-authoritarian response. :)
After I wrote that, I thought, wait, I have a college student living with me. I made that remark last night to the mister when the kid strolled through the living room in t-shirt and boxer short to get his dinner, 10 minutes after I announced dinner was ready.
Ha. But, I know my son and he doesn’t even take an aspirin unless he’s in pain. That, and his brother went the other way, so he’s a total tea-totaler. Nuthin’. Nada.
PS, but no judgement on his part.
Nice to see that some folks still dress for dinner.
My grandmother had a system. She called it the Baloney System. She felt very strongly that it was disrespectful to show up late for dinner when she’d spent all day making dinner. Soooooo….if you showed up late, you’d find a baloney sandwich on your plate, with the jar of mustard right besides it. And a glass of tap water.
Boxturtle (You weren’t even allowed a serving of veggies, unless she was sure you hated ‘em)
Back from the “hinterlands” of Indianapolis, on my way to an appt. in an hour, but had to share this, since it is on topic.
Driving through a stretch of farmland north of Kokomo, began seeing little yard signs that read (with one of the red circle/slash signs)
NO Wind farm
I wonder what’s up with that? No clue, but I saw several of those signs, so apparently some folks don’t want a wind farm in their back yard.
The common gripe is that they’re unsightly. Bird lovers hate them for the kills, depending on location.
Setbacks seem to be the boogeyman here. Linky.
Boxturtle (If elected president, I will have a national contest to design an attractive wind tower)
Love her. My mom’s from Illinois and My late MIL was from Iowa. They’re Firm People. Both had Germanic roots. Rough stuff. Stubborn.
Fortunately for Sonny, we’re laid back and several generations from the austere.
Plus, I really like the kid. He was doing homework in his room and took his plate with him. Can’t complain.
((BT!)) That’s a strong hug.
At another place on the same route but closer to South Bend there is a row of the wind fans (whatever they’re called) just in a line, perhaps 6 or 8 of them, in a field not far from a small farmhouse. I wondered when I passed whether the wind supplied electricity to the house, but I wasn’t able to look a lot and still drive safely.
In two weeks when I go back (lots of trips to Indy in the next few weeks) I will try to get a closer look at the setup there. But it’s not particularly unsightly IMO. Wouldn’t work well in my neighborhood — no open fields — but looked OK where they were sited.
The grandmother I’m referring to had a last name of “Keyser”. You don’t get much more German than that. Your Germans sound JUST like her.
I was late for dinner once. Watching my younger sister eat chicken pot pie AND watching her get MY piece of cake as well as her own ensured I’d never make that mistake again.
Minor Victory: I made a funny face and caused her to blow some cake out her nose.
Boxturtle (Which she still remembers 40 years later. EPIC win!!! WooHoo!!!)
Thanks for that linky. That’s probably about where I saw the signs. The other ones north of there near a farmhouse (but not too near) are in a row perpendicular to the road and in an open field.
OOOH the comments on that article are pretty heated! Apparently there are strong feelings on both sides, some name-calling, etc. Typical intelligent discussion. /s
Glad you are back safe and sound.
I just did a d’yuck, d’yuck, d’yuck.
(Tanks.)