On Monday, US Attorney General Eric Holder gave a speech at Northwestern University outlining the supposed ‘legality’ of the Obama administration’s secret program to target US citizens for execution without notifying them of the accusations against them, officially charging them with a crime or offering them the opportunity to respond.
Since the whole world is a battlefield in the vague ‘war on terror,’ the only due process afforded to someone who has been targeted for extrajudicial execution is a secret ‘review’ by the panel of senior officials in the executive branch.
Just as the public demanded the release of the Bush Administration’s Torture Memos to expose the ludicrous rationale behind their secret torture program, we too must demand to know the legal rationale for a program that allows our president to unilaterally choose to deprive someone of life and liberty – without any oversight or recourse available to the victim.
Holder’s speech was a cheap attempt to feign transparency without actually releasing the legal memos that define the administration’s execution program. We need your help to demand the Obama administration release these memos immediately so there can be an open public debate about Executive power and the execution of American citizens without any due process or outside accountability.
Click here to sign: http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/release-the-memo
The administration’s refusal to even outline this non-judicial ‘due process’ that allows US citizens to be secretly put on a kill list is beyond troubling to say the least.
If left unchallenged, this secretive program could continue to expand under Obama and future presidents, and further erode America’s most basic principles of justice. Without the memos we do not know exactly how far the Obama administration believes this unprecedented power extends. We need your help to build a groundswell of pressure to force the release of any and all legal justification for the targeted killings program so there can be an open debate in this country about our president’s unilateral authority to kill.
As Glenn Greenwald put it (emphasis mine):
…the ‘process’ which Eric Holder yesterday argued constitutes “due process” as required by the Fifth Amendment before the government can deprive of someone of their life: the President and his underlings are your accuser, your judge, your jury and your executioner all wrapped up in one, acting in total secrecy and without your even knowing that he’s accused you and sentenced you to death, and you have no opportunity even to know about, let alone confront and address, his accusations; is that not enough due process for you?
The ACLU, New York Times and others have been suing the Obama administration for months in hopes of securing the release of the Citizen Execution Memos, but as one of the least-transparent administrations in recent history, they have repeatedly blocked their release. We want to join the growing chorus of voices calling for the release of the memos and a full public reckoning for this atrocious policy of secretly murdering US citizens at the whim of the executive.
This is a serious and dangerous precedent, and anyone who took issue with the Bush Torture Memos should be even more concerned about this latest expansion of Executive power. I hope you’ll join us in fighting to release these memos.



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Peter Van Buren, who we had on here for a Book Salon not too long ago I believe, has a great piece up at his site: http://wemeantwell.com/blog/2012/03/06/we-take-care-of-our-own-eric-holder-and-the-end-of-rights/
How many thought “hope & change” would mean extra-judicial assassination of Americans? Not Many.
But from here on out–continued support and a vote for Obama = “I stand for the extra-judicial assassination of Americans.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnJVkEX8O4
Signed. Thanks for the hook up to the excellent GG piece too.
The bottom link with the text, “Click here to sign: http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/release-the-memo” returns a 404 error for me but the petition link just above works.
My bad! fixing now, thanks for the heads up.
Signed. These people sure do NOT reflect any Constitutional scholarship.
The Due Process amendment is meant to reflect judicial review, not some King’s prerogative.
Chris Hedges is also suing as a reporter. Since he has spent a lot of time with unsavory characters throughout the globe, he is demanding the criteria that would lead to his execution.
To be alive in interesting times.
thanks ubetchaiam, really appreciate the support.
I NEVER thought my country would get to this point. THis is verrry disturbing.
That picture of Obama needs to be captioned “America! Fuck YEAH!”
And signed, with the note…
Or…….”I got your ‘due process’ right here. See my drones….you can run, but you can’t hide.”
He has SOOO lost my vote.
I gotta tell you Kris. If I were in congress, I might consider this a “high crime”.
“Chris Hedges is also suing as a reporter. Since he has spent a lot of time with unsavory characters throughout the globe, he is demanding the criteria that would lead to his execution.”
Absolutely brilliant!
Well maybe so. BUt, I’d ask nicely. /s
ON second thought….NOte to FDL..please delete comment #12
Like that? I photoshopped it myself.
Brian, can’t speak for Kris but I’m damned impressed.
I that a smart bomb under the starboard wing?????
WE the people of the United States of America DO NOT CONSENT!
There is nothing they can say to excuse this. There is no terror or war worthy of taking away the rights of citizens without due process.
Makes you wonder, if Bradley Manning is a ‘criminal,’ where does it go from here?
I’m sure it’s put me on a no fly list.
I love it. And it should be set to the song from Team America: World Police.
Thanks, I thought it kind of looked like Obama was performing at a rock concert with jets flying overhead, but maybe that’s just me.
Signed and recommended Brian.
Exactly, that’s what I had in mind lol
Wow. We credit Nixon for the phrase “plausible deniability”.
We credit Reagan for the phrase “I don’t recall”.
We credit Clinton with “It depends on what your definition of is is”.
We crediit Geo W Bush for….”Fool me once shame on the fool, no.. Fool me once, uh…fool me twice…????”
Now we can credit Obama for “extrajudicial execution”.
Looks like he’s butchering the National Anthem at a NASCAR race…
Thank you Popeye, hopefully we’ll get some momentum going around this.
I want to go on record as saying that I never actually credited Shrub for anything. I wouldn’t give that fucker credit if he walked into a pawn shop with a Rolex.
I think you captured the moment……
JETS! Oh, heck No. Drones, drones, and more drones. We don’t need no stinkin jets no more. We don’t need jet pilots no more.
I believe Obama has “He broke the law.”
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/04/22/obama-on-manning-he-broke-the-law-so-much-for-that-trial/
At times, while playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, I’ve wondered if I’m actually piloting a drone somewhere in Africa or the Middle East. Maybe the government’s using gamers to wage war?
Crazy, I know, but I wouldn’t put it past them…
NO argument.
BUT, you gotta admit, that walking into a locked door in China was gut-wrenching funny. And, I’m n ot even mentioning the shoe-dodging incident.
The shoe-dodging incident was the highlight of his BOTH terms! The look on his face as he realized what the fuck was happening… Priceless!
He was soooo butt-hurt!
So much for that democratic republic bullshit. This USA has morphed into a 21st Century dictatorship. Time for some serious ex-pat planning.
He is a past “American Idol” winner, isn’t he?
No. You’re thinking of Clay Aiken.
Obama did do that off-off Broadway production of The King And I, though.
I’ve thought the same thing.
I often think too about the military personell and if they understand how they are being off-shouldered by another kinda fighting machine. Like the FBI and CIA are getting off-shored, er, shouldered by civilian and other military spy groups.
Okay, I got it now. Looks like Obama is singing, “Ain’t no sunshine when I’m gone…”
I wonder how long the 0bots are going to keep spinning his greatness.
Is it me or does this shit sound like the Trial by Kafka?
I like to picture my Obama singing “I went down to the Crossroads…”
I like to picture my Obama in a tuxedo tshirt…
No place on Earth to hide from the Empire.
American tolerance of the rule of the <1% has served and will continue to serve as a self-inflicted ulcerated wound poisoning the rest of the nations of the world… until the infection can be drained or until it kills us all.
Might as well make our stand here at the core of it.
The every Man’s Man should be pictured as you wish. I like to picture my Obama telling the world that the US is in a race to be the best, first, and only country to rebuild using alternative energy. Oh, and I like to picture my Obama saying that everyone in the country can eat fresh veggies just like he does from an unspoiled garden.
Tuxedo T-shirt inspiration.
All reporters are targets. Remember the al Jaz guys in Baghdad? A U.S. tank aimed directly at them & fired.
This is rancid. The stench is nauseating.
One would think there would be more groups on the ‘left’ organizing around this, but I can practically hear crickets
I don’t know why Holder bothered. His speech raised more Qs than it answered. He shoulda just kept his mouth shut instead of calling attention to the problem.
I thought the Wizard of O was some kind of legal genius protecting us from the Commies or something. Oilbumbler may be the Communists.
Cue obot claiming that this is Obama’s secret call for help in 3… 2… 1…
Is Balloon Goose still whoring for the Wizard of O?
Agreed. Apparently there was a bit of a disagreement as to whether he should give it:
http://my.news.yahoo.com/u-defends-killing-americans-join-al-qaeda-000215772.html
I kind of think it was to push NYT, ACLU, Hedges and others back and assume that would be enough of an explanation. Remember, folks have been probing at this for a long time trying to find out what powers the executive really believes he has, and by refusing to produce the documents and giving this aggressive and somewhat defensive speech, we’re supposed to feel okay now.
… you mispelled “Stalinist”
The part you quote has a factual error. O is not too close to W policies. O’s prez powers are far to the right of W’s.
woops i didn’t read that through all the way! should say:
…and by refusing to produce the documents and giving this aggressive and somewhat defensive speech, there’s clearly more here we’re not supposed to know about. I think this was the administration trying to tell the Professional Left to get off their lawn.
The 0bots can now say that the whole rationale has been completely explained and questioning it is just sour grapes by racist opponents that can’t stand the thought of a black man in the WH. Anyway, we know that the terrierists are out there and can be anywhere. Stopping to ask if the person is actually guilty ties the hands of the govt efficiency. 0 and his minions are totally trustworthy. Just like swat teams, they never get it wrong nor have to answer to any outside legal technicalities.
Sure, but I think the point is that there was an internal debate over whether this was worth it, and they must feel pressured enough to believe it was. Otherwise, why say anything at all?
Rahm’s just never around anymore when you need him to say FU to the professional left.
Did you hear what he said to the head of the Chicago teachers’ union (at least that’s who I think it was; she was on democracynow within the last week or so). “Those kids (ya know, the black ones in slum schools) won’t ever amount to anything and I’m not gonna throw any money at them.”
I think he’s too busy having a freaking meltdown that Obama took the G8 away, haha.
I hadn’t heard about that, do you have a link to the piece on DN?
It really is like the authorities rousting K and he has no idea what he has done.
Amerika.
Hey admin lackeys…I know you are reading this…aren’t you proud you’re turning this place into East Germany.
They’re deep into pander mode. And since they have no clue as to the depth of the antipathy toward O, they are likely in being ham-handed when pandering to the proggies.
It will work on some. I sent my friend who’s a Barnard alum the clip about how O’s gonna speechify at Barnard as a way of reaching out to wimmin. No action, just empty words. I suggested someone should organize a turn-your-back on O at the ceremony. Haven’t heard back from my friend, including to a second email that a commenter pointed out. Barnard prez (woman) is on Goldman, Sachs board. Some people are harder to convince than others, esp when it’s close to home.
No, but I’ll see if I can find it.
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Good for you, I like the idea. I think there needs to be a lot more expression like that at his speeches now that we’re coming up on the election this year.
Here’s the link.
Personally, I’m hoping this summer full of activism has a good deal of nonviolent civil disobedience because i think those images really move people out of their seats.
thanks, i’ll check it out.
The Trial by Kafka
I was wondering about your line to the admins…
Isn’t it self-evident. LOL.
I’m waiting for them to bring out the big guns.
They certainly can’t tolerate any peaceful civil disobedience when they are so close to getting everything.
Need I say Greece?
I think those of us who watch a lot of movies have always thought that there is a subrosa government that does pretty much whatever it wants. And now we know for a fact that they do and feel pretty OK with it. I have had countless people tell me that (1) but for a bad Congress, Obama would have brought wonderful gifts; (2) that he has been placed in horrible positions that caused him to be forced to make the uninviting choices that he has; and the most unfounded of all: (3) that he will really do a rip roaring job next term. Tell me the truth: if Ashcroft had given this speech, wouldn’t the Democrats have lost their minds? There is no other explanation than the Republicans and the Democrats are like rival football teams. There is betting going on and someone is making big money on the results of the various calls. There is no concern for the rule of law, the Constitution or the well being of the people. It’s a sad day when the chief law enforcement officer is trying to say with a straight face the government can simply kill whomever, whenever, without explanation or due process. Count me in as part of the professional left who does not buy it, at all, will fight to push back and is proud NOT to be associated even by party affiliation with any of these people.
Yeah.. I say let them be intolerant, then. All it does is energize people for bigger protests.
Alright folks, off for the Occupy Supply call this evening. Thanks for supporting this action.
Makes you nostalgic for the days of good AGs, like Ashcroft.
Some of us tried to point out Holder’s, ahem, shortcomings when his appointment was announced, like Chiquita. O’s defenders rejoinder was that he was just being a good lawyer defending his client, and he’ll do the same thing in the govt.
They were right. He’s in USG and still defending crooks & murderers.
Collateral Murder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
Speaking of reporters???? AK47′s? RPGs? Did you see any?
No wonder Manning is being fucked as a political prisoner.
Cold blooded useless murder. Great job????
Seems like it fits right into his wheelhouse, doesn’t it.
Problem is it’s almost impossible to convince mainstream Dems that the corrupt elite are turning this place into a corporate police state, even when you marshal all of your facts and present them gift wrapped and doused with the finest perfume.
They just don’t want to hear dissent. Their minds are closed.
I think it could possibly a generation to get there, whether or not we have the time. But it does feel like things are beginning to shake up a bit. Maybe that’s just me being the optimist activist.
> Is Balloon Goose still whoring for the Wizard of O?
Of course balloon-juice.com is still whoring for Obama. They are a bona fide Cult of Personality. There is nothing he could do which they would not quickly explain away as “incredibly savvy in the current political environment” and therefore “so full of win” — including “blowing a goat” in the words of the illiterate Angry Black Cow.
Holder and his henchman don’t need no stinkin memos!
Not only defending but putting out “hits” just like a mafia Don.
The memos are hidden because Al Awlaki existed on the fringe- according to the Chechnyan Islamists.
They are sure grateful for the help US and Saleh gave them by killing Houthis, and the help against the Syrian awalites. They can’t believe that the last three years have been so fruitful! Like the Israel
Here’s a link to Jane Novak’s site Armies of Liberation, and a post with an AJE video of Jeremy Schahill.
http://armiesofliberation.com/archives/2012/03/02/americas-dangerous-game-a-video/
Just reading the top 5 of her posts, along with the syria and yemen related posts on the kavazcenter site I linked to first will show that the mistakes they are making in the middle east are without precedent. They could lead to the Armageddon the christian fundamentalists are praying for, and they are destroying out civil rights to hide them.
Obama ought to be impeached, but something has to break out in the Middle East before anyone will notice the obvious.
I signed the petition that will be ignored.
Maybe it’s the only way to take out Kissinger and Cheney, they seem immune to natural causes. For one thing, it won’t be illegal. For another, who’ll complain? After, the ACLU can win, and the law will be rescinded.
LOL…
Thanks for the chuckle.
They made a pact with Satan and have plans on living forever.
BTW, they’re also accurate about O’s second term. It will be so awesome it will make your head spin. SS & MC, MC will be gutted before it’s over & a whole long list of specifics that I won’t even bother with.
At the end of O’s second terms the 0.01%ers will be calling themselves 99%ers, bc they’ll have 99% of the wealth & income.
My feeling is that if Obuummer ratchets up the right wing in his second term there might be consequences. There wasn’t an OWS in 2009.
Help me out here…I’m trying to be hopeful.
Don’t read anything I type, then. :-(
OK, if anyone is still on this thread, with over 50 comments it’s OK to go OffT.
My neighbors & I are planning a St. Pat’s meal, to be consumed on the 18th owing to prior commitments on 17th. Corned beef & cabbage. I’m not Irish & not planning to become Irish, none of the participants are to my knowledge, but it seemed like a good idea a couple of months ago when we picked up our 1/4 steer & it included a brisket. Anyone else got St. Pat’s plans? Brisket is brining.
So Don Obama’s consigliere Holder goes public by placing a mantle of legitimacy on Murder, Inc – being run out of the WH, dontcha know. Gotta whack a few Americans to keep all you folks safe.
Yes, I’ll sign. Thanks Brian & FDL
Brine some cabbage too and you can make Reuben sandwiches to honor former Dublin mayor Robert Briscoe.
Nah, it won’t be ignored. All those who signed it will be placed on a watch list by the FBI, CIA, NSA, & various entities in DHS! ; )
signed and sealed my death warrant er petition, ha ha or maybe not so much hilarity. More like heh.
I’ve got some cabbage fermenting separately. I haven’t looked at it for a week or so, and, of course, I forgot to put the start date on the jar. I think it’s been a couple of weeks, but it’s in my basement, which is darkish & cool, so instructions say it should take awhile before it’s saurkraut.
BUT for that I have a pork shoulder in the freezer & will make mashed pots to go with it, when it’s done. There will be 6 for dinner on 18th, 3 pound brisket, so I imagine there won’t be leftovers for Reubens.
BUT, if both (first time) projects work out, 2013 could be a banner year for both St. Pat’s, pork shoulders AND Reubens.
I think his capos call him Don Hussein. You’ve triggered my flick response, I’m gonna pull out Sergio Leone’s Once Upon A Time In America to watch again, the best treatment of Murder Inc ever made. A few weeks ago I converted the soundtrack LP to MP3, which only loaded and cocked my flick response…
I eat sauerkraut every day for the probiotic qualities (distrustful of yogurts, plus I don’t want to buy a treadmill to work off the yogurt).
Heh.
I should spell my name differently on every petition I sign. That way they would have
5-610-12 (or what ever the permutations of spelling of first & surname come out to be) of me to monitor.Re: Spelling of names. Several of us were chatting nothings at work one day decades ago, subject being how difficult our ethnic names were for other ethnicities to spell. A very smart, long-term temp, working in our group at the time, stood smirking, and finally interrupted: Do you know how many ways there are to spell Chris Reid?
Ever make Bubble & Squeak from LO mashed pots and cabbage?
I learned from bee lecture a couple of weeks ago that fermented vegies contain many multiples of protein than the raw variety.
I have always like cabbage: raw, steamed, cole slaw (very light on the dressing, please) and esp saurkraut. This is the first time I’ve tried to make my own.
Bee bread, fed to newborn bees, is fermented pollen. Plus who knows what else. Apparently science in this area is not well advanced. Some academics who study bees thought they could survive in a microbe-free environment up until 4 years ago.
No. Do tell. Or are you gonna make me google it? If the latter, hopefully I’ll get lotsa ads for bubble bath, pet squeaky toys, random other unrelated topics.
My favorite aspect of that incident was that he was so obviously proud of himself for successfully dodging the shoes. He found his own level in that moment lol.
Go over to TBogg’s site and ask them. I am banned there for asking.
So much to be fond about W, in retrospect. He’s too librul to be elected today.
I may be banned too. Made fun of the guys a day or so ago. Haven’t been interested enough to check back to see.
Months ago at TJ’s the checkout clerk asked if I “found everything all right” and I said y’all don’t have sauerkraut, so I’ll have to get it at Fresh Market, and the (very handsome) woman in line next said Why don’t you make your own? and I said It seems like a rural thing to do and I live in the city, and she goes, I make my own and I live in the city. Moral: flirting is not a lost art.
I take a t of raw, local wildflower honey every day. The farm is a mile from my home. Honey is bee vomit but we don’t call it that (“Bee Vomit, I’m home!”).
A policy that shreds human rights based on secret documents. Thank God we elected a Democrat as President. Everyone knows only Republicans like the evil George W. Bush do things like that.
What’s that, you say? Ob — You’re kidding!
* Sigh *
Wait till some wingnut like AZ’s very own Barney Fife, Sheriff Joe, decides to mimic the Prez by creating his execution list to protect the good people of AZ. Remember when he used a war surplus tank – accompanied by a wheezing & obese Steven Seagall and cameras – to arrest some poor Mexican dude for raising chickens for cockfighting? Ended up killing hundreds of chickens.
Bubble & Squeak
Bet a St Gaudens Double Eagle to your donut you thought the link went to pole dancing twins.
The wiki says nothing about technique, which is everything. You have to low-heat ‘fry’ the pots and cabbage without stirring until a firm bottom crust forms. Then you have to lay a large plate over the skillet and tip the goods upside down onto the plate and then slide it into the skillet to low-fry the other side. It’s only fun with an audience, and best done if you’re looking at your audience and talking while you do the flip and return. Nonstick pans are for cheaters.
You know I have 2 beehives, dontcha?
Here’s my diary.
YEAH! Permalink was broken a couple of days ago, and now it’s repaired. FDL growing pains.
I don’t have allergies so I don’t make a point of taking it raw, though I do sometimes put it on cold cereal.
I’m still, after 2 years, investigating recipes. I never bought honey at the supermarket bc it tastes like chemicals, which it is.
So when I got my own, I’ve been overwhelmed.
Family Xmas gift exchange is supposed to be modest (less than $10 pp). 2010 was first I had honey, so big peeps got a jar each and kids (now in their 30s) got home made cookies. You should have seen the disappointment. Shit, all she gave me was some crappy jar of honey. Last year, when I returned with more of my honey, I was greeted with: Didja bring more honey, didja didja.
They’ll just brand you as “crazy” or “stupid, add some scatology, and dismiss you. People like that are the problem, IMO.
Petition signed, and post recommended, Brian. Thank you.
I do a variation on that theme without knowing it had a formal name. I am single, so always looking for ways of using up left overs. I made a goose for New Year’s and have rendered goose lard. Anything fried in that is too good to be true. I don’t eat bacon often and have, for the moment, used up all my bacon lard, but getting ready to reverse that deficiency soon. Bacon is the gateway meat, dontcha know.
I use tongs for turning over my fried food. I’m performing only for myself. Can’t get too fauncy, ya know. Anne Burrell sez “brown foods are good.”
Yes. And everyone loved your diary. How do you know you don’t have allergies? Living organisms and the environment are dynamic systems. Most rocks don’t ever have allergies.
I rarely visit TBogg. This time was rare. It was front-pages (gah), topic was male commentary on uteruses (or is it usterii?), and I caved to temptation.
“Some people” like that are only PART of the problem…
I don’t have any allergy symptoms.
I’m fighting a cold for almost a week now, and it occurred to me when it started that it could be newly acquired allergies, but has proceeded along the lines of the colds I get once every 2/3 years which normally occur in the winter. As we had a very mild winter this year, and pollen is in the air (my bee girlz are heading into the hive with their little cargo pants pockets full of the stuff on warm days) was what made me think of it this time. But I guess not.
I miss bacon terribly. Peanut butter and bacon on toast… Cantonese broiled shrimp-wrapped bacon… The housekeeper took home the lard and made soap.
Well, I focus on them as the “problem” because they are a part of the population that we ought to be able to count on ttimes like these, and instead they make themselves the first group we must address and bring around to reality.
Just don’t tell my 30-something neighbor about making soap. Her parents were born in the same year as I was. They have a whole menagerie (2 cats, 2 dogs, 2 goats, 24 chickens at last count I know of), 5-6 horses, some borders.
If I remembered that I used to know that soap was made out of lard (chem major undergrad), I’m sure one of them would immediately have launched on a soap making project.
As they’re the ones the St. Pat’s dinner is with, I think I’ll jerk their chains with the soap making idea, hoping I can stop them before they actually try it. I might be wading into dangerous waters. I like them too much to get them into real trouble as a joke.
Okay. But if you assume it’s a cold and not an allergy, it will seem like a cold (I went through all that a few weeks ago, it never went below my nose and eyes, landscrapers were sawing tall limbs, within 24 hours roots were squirming, bowing my walls and doorjambs, godknows what they were doing above as below). You had to have been somewhere (far away and drunk the water) or with someone who had the virus. A t of your girlz honey every day can be the control or the placebo. If you come down with nothing next year, you’ll have more info.
Do you get your eggs from those chickens? I had a friend who kept two quails under the desk in her kitchen, the daily squawk signaled a new egg, she fried it ssu for me and served it with a miniature bagel. Best egg I ever tasted, just so fresh!
You may have missed my ‘thankless tasks’ comment which I’ve posted several times, so if you’ve seen it apologies for repetition.
15 or so year’s ago, nearing the end of Dec, I get a call from a USA Today biz reporter who sometimes quoted me on econ data evaluation. His assignment was to collect a page full of bons mots of New Year’s resolutions from prominent peeps. I initially told him I didn’t make NY res, but upon brief further thought, I told him: I resolve not to do any thankless tasks. And if I have not violated this resolution by January 2, I’m sure I will have by January 4. He printed it on a page with about 30 other, biz execs’ resolutions. Theirs were mostly about ‘maximizing profits’ or ‘minimizing costs’ which made one wonder wtf they had been doing in their previous years.
The point being, posting a comment on TBogg is a thankless task. I KNOW this, but sometimes temptation is irresistible.
Yes I get my yeggs from those chickens. We now exchange so much food, I told Noa not to bother returning containers.
For brisket brining, she called yesterday, asking if I had juniper berries, cinnamon stick, allspice berries, and ground ginger (she’s a baker and had used hers up in some nicely mild ginger bread she brought for me, including one in the shape of a bee mold she bought, LOL). I said yes, I had all of those. When she arrived at the door, I asked her: What is this? A simple cup of sugar from a neighbor is no longer sufficient?
Sorry, you can’t fix stupid. They are right wingers with Blue shirts. It’s easier to fix you so that you’ll realize it.
I don’t ‘know’ anything. I have only hypotheses that are waiting to be disproved. Nothing going on around me to arouse new allergies, cold symptoms typical of past ones. Occam’s razor says cold. You are right. If next year’s symptoms are associated with pollen season, I’ll reevaluate.
The best reason to leave those seemingly ‘thankless task’ comments are for those that don’t comment, you are planting seeds of critical thought that will subconsciously grow in the minds of those that haven’t become part of the cult – yet.
That’s why the bots pull so many dirty punches; They like being stockholm victims and they want company, heretics ruin it all.
So, how many folk here at FDL are gonna vote for the murderer-in-chief anyway?
Anyone?…
Buellar?…
Ground ginger. My niece’s husband is a chef, was, partner in a very classy restaurant. I keep whole ginger root in the freezer until whenever comes. Only my ice cubes have to be refreshed, as the frost free dingus heats up everything and then evaporates the mist.
I discovered the fresh-ginger-in-the-freezer trick about a year ago.
However, as my neighbor is brining a brisket for the first time evah, she (who also has ginger in the freezer) wanted to follow the recipe rather than freestyling it.
The choice of words used to characterize political crimes such as this make a difference. When BushCo insisted that they did not torture anyone, but merely used “enhanced” or “harsh” interrogation techniques, it was important to push back and call torture what it was. Likewise, Holder made a big deal about rejecting the term “assassination” to describe 0bamaCo’s extra-judicial killing of US citizens, because assassination is illegal(!). Until an acceptable legal basis for such killings has been established (which may never happen), I believe it is important for those of us who object to these killings to continue to use the terms “assassination” or “murder” to describe them. 0bama, Holder, et al. are knowingly and deliberately committing crimes, therefore they are criminals, just like Cheney & Bush.
One more thing: when a group of unelected “officials” go off to a secret location to select names from an “enemies list” to be murdered, is there a more appropriate term for that than “death panel”?
Same boat, same boat. ;-)
Gotta get my sleep. Be well everyone.
Oh, I realize it alright, but I’m in the same position as Sisyphus-if I don’t roll the rock up that hill, who else is gonna do it? :-(
realitychecker,
I thought of people like your inimitable nemesis when I linked to this Pete Seeger song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnJVkEX8O4
You’re the sergeant in the song.
Well, that’s the nicest thing anybody’s said to me all day. No wonder I’ve always liked you. ;-)
Signed, with the follwing note – Since becoming President, all you’ve done is prove that I, a working class progressive, made the right decision in not voting for you.
Nobel Peace Prize winner uses drones to kill citizens of his own country!
I said the following here (at FDL:)
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/03/06/holders-regressive-defense-of-targeted-killings/#comment-41938
It still works for me.
When a psychiatrist gives a “5051″ diagnosis (involuntary
commitment,) that requires a concurring diagnosis in rapid order.
Where Mr. Holder approves the killing of an American abroad, no
questions asked, he should be required to produce the what and why
in rapid order.
Absent that, if it occurs in a decent country, their authorities
should investigate, and if wrongful, the American relatives should be
able to sue Mr. Holder’s ass.
Of, he could just make people disappear and drop them in the ocean.
Works for the mafia.