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VP debate. Paul Ryan admits that The Ryan Budget is scaring people.
1) Joe Biden’s “I’ve known Bebe for 35 years” made me think of Lloyd Benson’s “I knew Jack Kennedy and you are no Jack Kennedy”.
2) “Facts matter!”
3) Ryan seems unaware that Bob Gates is no longer Secretary of Defense or that Gates is GOP.
4) Martha Raddatz: “The #1 issue here at home is jobs.”
5) The 47% are Biden’s mom and dad. He meant that figuratively.
6) Wham! Biden socks him with The Ryan Budget, again and again.
7) Ryan, “Mitt Romney is a car guy”, uh no, Mitt Romney is a car elevator guy. George Romney was a car guy.
8) ”I got a bridge to sell you”, that’s the 3rd time Biden called out a lie.
9) “I just he would tel…, be a little more candid”. That’s 4 times Biden calls out a lie.
10) Medicare: AMA endorsed Obama’s version, AARP endorsed Obama’s version. CBO score of The Ryan Budget says The Ryan Budget will add over $6,000 to senior’s costs.
11) Biden fact checking the heck out of Ryan’s lies about The Ryan Budget.
12) Ryan says that talking about The Ryan Budget “scares” people. Yes, it does!
13) 120,000 families will get $500 billion in additional tax relief under The Ryan Budget. I think that works out to about 466,000 per family. Nice to be rich.
14) The Ryan Budget will cut out the mortgage deduction, the health insurance deduction, and the education tuition deduction, says Biden.
15) Raddatz is trying to get Ryan to do the math (I think she has used that phrase 3 or 4 times so far), but The Ryan Budget does not add up. Ryan dodges again and again.
16) Etch-a-Sketch moment, all of a sudden the Romney campaign is on board with 2014 transition? They have been criticizing Obama for giving out an end date 4-evah.
17) Raddatz carrying water for some faction of military officers on more than one occasion here. Somebody with a chest full of medals did a good job of lobbying her.
18) OK, Ryan has done a good job of memorizing the names of lots of small towns in Afghanistan. Lots of towns, he has studied hard.
19) Biden yelling at Raddatz about Syria, I think her military (Betrayus, couch, Betrayus) water carrying has cheezed him off. However, Joe, style point: the moderator is not your enemy, The Ryan Budget is. Also don’t yell at a woman on TV, ever. You handled that rocky shoal so well with Palin 4 years ago.
20) How does being Catholic influence you on abortion? Ryan believes life begins at conceptions, but would allow abortion in cases of rape and incest? Either you believe that zygote is innocent life, bearing only Original Sin to be washed away by baptism, or you don’t.
21) Ryan admits that The Ryan Budget is scaring people away.
I call this debate for Biden.
Style points. Who did the lighting for Raddatz? That person is not her friend, she is better looking than that.
Ryan looked like Nixon in the Nixon-Kennedy debate; pale, sorta bluish/green tinge to the skin. Looks like his makeup person is on hiatus from True Blood.
Biden has a nice matte makeup job.
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As I pointed out in a comment elsewhere her, listening to Ryan and his ilk are like listening to a patient in a psychiatric ward. They are deadly serious about their delusions and hallucinations and listening to closely will drive you nutz.
I felt like asking him “So you’re still hearing voices and seeing things. Maybe we need to up your medications.”
They’re deadly serious about reducing middle class wages and wrecking medicare and ss by running up the debt even more. Think about is. Romney and Ryan are numbers guys without numbers. The word deficit has essentially been removed from Romney’s website. Admitted plans are attack all high paying jobs by destroying unions, cutting Fed wages, cutting Fed jobs. There only plan is to exploit the poor and middle class https://www.impartial-review.com/stories/romney-s-has-no-plans-to-reduce-deficit-big-plans-to-reduce-wages
“You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?”
–Mark Twain
You call the debate for Biden. I didn’t watch the thing, only saw some clips, but the M$M is calling it a draw by split decision.
As I predicted. More profitable for them that way. Now everything is set up for Obama to make his Dramatic Comeback next Tuesday.
It doesn’t matter what the candidates actually say in how they are graded by the corporate talking heads. What matters is their employers’ profits. What we think does not count with them.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of stupid people out there who let what they “hear” do their thinking for them.
Still, nice synopsis. Appreciated and recc’d.
Per Raj Patel:
Unfortunately, Paul Ryan never got to the one about orcs.
What has Harry Potter got to do with this?
Too bad Biden can’t come on in relief for Obama, who will probably stink up the joint in Debates #2 and #3.
I tured off the POTUS debat about 20 minutes into it. Not worth watching ad it was obvious who was going to win.
The VPOTUS debate was actually fu to watch. Biden was smacking the tar out of Ryan, but Ryan would dig out a canned talking point and come back for more.
It only got a little weird when Biden seemed to be debating Martha on some of the military stuff and it was obvious that Ryan was being left out, like two adults talking in the presence of a child who is too youg to understand.
The important thing here is: RYAN ADMITS that to talk about his budget is to scare people.
Thiink about it, merely discussing the horrible stuff he wants to do to grandma is a “scare tactic”.
No, Paul, what YOU want to do is actually scary.
‘Tis a good thing that one of us boys did not say this.
Apparently nobody but the MSM and their carefully selected “control”, (don’t make me laugh), groups are calling it a draw. The thing is that if a panel of voters consists of exactly fifty percent tea party members and fifty percent all others, the very best result possible for Democrats will be a draw.
At least President Biden turned up, unlike his lame VP, Obysmal…..
Oh, wait….
That would be The Bible
Cynthia, Thank You.
You put words to some of my flinch/jerk/feelings on this.
Lots of attitudes, biases, visuals going on out there about this.
(people with facebook know what I’m talking about, but I’m sure there are many sites with some Fun Stuff.)
I can’t stand the Republicans, but there are some things that ought to be acknowledged:
1. The kowtowing to the Israel lobby by both parties is sickening.
2. The Obama administration tried to cover up its incompetence in protecting its Libyan ambassador by telling lies that didn’t fly.
3. If Obama had done the right things by passing a sensible stimulus bill of appropriate size and an intelligent healthcare reform bill, then he’d be polling at about 60% right now and the Republican party would be irrelevant.
On point #3 above, if Obama had been president in the 1930′s instead of FDR, then instead of passing social security, he’d have pushed through a 2,500-page bill mandating employers provide pension plans. That is the equivalent of his crappy ACA. As it is now, many employers will have an incentive to cut back on full-time employees and rely on more part-timers to avoid providing health insurance. If we had single-payer, we wouldn’t have to put up with ridiculous claims from the Catholic Church that religious freedom is under attack. Obama is a loser.
It is already happening. Olive Garden (Darden) is already doing that.
This trend has been happening in many industries – before
the ACA debacle.
For example, 70% of college instructors are now part-time adjuncts.
How will the ACA help them?
“Either you believe that zygote is innocent life, bearing only Original Sin to be washed away by baptism, or you don’t.”
The Catholic Church doesn’t believe that zygote is innocent life. Priests don’t offer sacraments to miscarriages.
In the encyclical Evangelium Vitae (issued March 25, 1995) §§ 58, 61-62, Pope John Paul II wrote:
In other words, the Catholic Church teaches that abortion is always a “sin.” But, the question at hand is whether it should be a crime, and Biden say “no” to that, while Ryan gave an emphatic “yes” but with exceptions.
I wuz snarkin’. I guess I should have used at the end.
Zing.
There are many sins that are not crimes. For example, let’s just check out the Seven Deadly Sins, a/k/s The Cardinal Sins:
Gluttony (Though mayor Bloomberg might try to criminalize )
Sloth
Envy
Pride
Lust
Wrath (so long as you do not express that wrath via physical violence)
Greed
So, does Ryan intend to criminalize this hit parade of sins as well? That would be great news for Wall Street accountability. Not so great news for publishers of girlie magazines or makers of junk food.
I sort of expect the democrats to implode and likely lose the election, but it really just doesn’t feel like something to get worked up over. Whatever perceived advantage there is to democrats retaining office is so slight, I marvel over why people like Digby spend so much energy on it. In fact, I think it’s just as likely that with Romney in office congressional democrats might move more to the left instead of working to implement their disastrous Bob Rubin/Clinton agenda.