Came across this little tidbit in Huffington. Seems that the Stocks in socialized countries do much better that those here.
American traders aren’t likely to take kindly to the suggestion that big government might be good for the stock market. But data from a paper on the job- and income-growth of top earners shows that stock prices in some socialized countries, relative to themselves and adjusted for inflation, have done considerably better than those in the U.S over the last two and a half decades.
Specifically, during the twenty five years after Ronald Reagan took office — a pro-market honeymoon that Ryan Chittum of the Columbia Journalism Review this week termed “the ascent of laissez-faire economic policies” — French stock prices have performed significantly better than Americans ones, according to the report by Jon Bakija, Adam Cole, and Bradley Heim.
A further examination of the 39-year period extending from the end of the Nixon administration until 2008 shows the Swedish economy, known for its high taxes and heavy regulation, growing at a significantly higher rate than the US.
Well like Gomer Pyle would say…Surprise ! Surprise ! And this chart gives a pretty good representation of this.
The graph below illustrates the annualised sharemarket returns for several major economies for the 39 year period ending 31 December 2008.

According to Jacob Funk Kirkegaard, a research fellow specializing in European economies at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, the disparity between the American and European markets might have more to do with the period in question than governmental forces.
“In 1981, [Francois] Mitterand was elected president of France, and the first thing he did was to nationalize a bunch of French businesses and most of the banking system,” Kirkegaard explained. “But going forward, France has moved quite dramatically towards a market-oriented economy, though not anywhere near the scope of market and economic freedom as perceived in the U.S.”
And seeing is believing.

You can download the pdf of the report here. It’s pretty long but the Columbia Journalism Review has a good summery of it.
First, applaud the fact that the authors adjusted stock prices for inflation. That’s almost never done. They did it here by prices for each respective country.
The authors cut off the stock chart at 2006 because that coincides with the tax data they were studying. Since then, the U.S. stock market has done a little less worse than French stocks. And it seems as if the researchers just used index averages and not dividends in their calculations, which could change the (while I can’t seem to find historical data on French dividend yields, I’d guess they’re at least comparable to American ones).
But the point is, the ascent of laissez-faire economic policies in the U.S. during the first quarter century following the Reagan Revolution wasn’t enough to outdo French stocks, which faced the heavy hand of government.
Take it for what a single datapoint is worth, but it’s interesting, non? You don’t and won’t hear much about this one in the American business press. And you don’t even want to look at truly socialist Sweden’s stock returns, which have outpaced even France’s
And there you have it. The market does better in the socialist countries than it does here.
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Nice article: “You don’t and won’t hear much about this one in the American business press.”
Thanks cmaukonen.
You might already know this, but I mention it for those who may not. In Scandinavia, people’s tax returns – by law – are public information. Everyone’s. This policy alone chastens the well-off and is a huge factor in a decided lack of the Hummer-driving, in-your-face ca$hholes of the ilk our culture seems to worship.
It is probably also why companies there make better returns. When compensation for top officials is merely phenomenal – rather than obscene – more of it is returned to shareholders.
Actually the assertion made that “Socialism is good for the stock market’ is deceptive. Or down right ridiculous.
Nordic countries (Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Finland) Have little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings. They all have low barriers to free trade.
Notice that Hong Kong ranks high in that chart. Hong Kong also ranks as the most Free Market in the world.
Sweden ranks #22 But still that isnt far from the US its just that there are a lot of countries with Free Markets.
Out of 100 Hong Kong scores 89.7. The US scores 77.8 Sweden scores 71.9 and France scores 64.2 for a rank of 64th.
But in the list of countries in the graph that performed better in the stock market: Australia: 82.5,3rd , Canada 80.9 6th, The Netherlands 74.7, 15th United Kingdom 74.5 16th Germany 71.8 23rd
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Most of those ‘Socialist’ countries rank high in terms of free markets. All belong to Free Trade agreements.
BTW North Korea ranks 178th with a score of 1.
I am not promoting completely free markets. I repeat I am not promoting completely free markets or free trade agreements. Obviously regulations are needed.
But the OP only is pointing out the stock markets performance. But has ignored things like how exactly does the data correlate between Socialism and the stock markets. Was it the Socialist part of the mixed economy system or was it the Capitalist parts?
Either way it seems odd that Socialist should pound their chests over stock market numbers, even hypocritical. Which is why most Socialists avoid this type of propaganda altogether in the first place.
Myself, I dont agree with the entire stock market model bullshit in the first place. I actually would like to see them disappear altogether. But maybe thats just me.
Quoting the Heritage Foundation?!?
Your string is intact, Freedom From All (Logic).
I guess we won’t be needing any COMEDY clips on Late Night FDL!
I purposefully linked the Heritage Foundation to laminate the Hippocracy. But your to slow to see the irony of the OP’s entirely illogical measure of Socialism.
I think the main message of Socialism being good for the Stock Market is an assertion that the top elite should embrace Socialism so that they can keep their power. Nice message Sherlock.
IMO you the OP and anyone who thinks that the Stock Market is proof of how great Socialism is, is all the comedy that I need
Bwhahahaha you guys are too funny! You guys need to think your propaganda out a little more and quit shooting yourselves in the foot.
BTW I was waiting for someone to take the ‘link’ bait, even better in was you. You kill me loool.
Ah debating Socialists is fun.