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My old education institution in Florida – The Univ. Of Central Florida that was originally called Florida Technological Univ. – has had it’s own brush with a plot for mass violence. The person who was plotting this however committed suicide before carrying it out. Thought he did have the required implements of destruction.
UCF police said they received a fire alarm call around 12:20 a.m. As they responded to that call, police then received a 911 call reporting a man with a gun.
When police arrived, they found a student with what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. They also found a bag of improvised explosive devices, along with a handgun and an assault weapon. - Central Florida News 13
We may never really know the motivations behind this individual or his actions and proposed actions but it’s safe bet is was some personal problem or agenda that drove him to it.
There a those who like to see such situations as some idealistic political and/or religious or some other kind of plot. In most cases those who are involved are just people who feel they have been pushed too far and are generally just really pissed off and desperate. Desperation can drive people to do things and behave in a manner they would not under other circumstances.
If one looks at the history to most political and/or economic upheavals, they were generally started by people who had “Had enough” and were desperate. Even the Russian revolution caught Lenin by surprise when it began even though he and others had plotted the over throw of the Tzar, it was a spontaneous event by desperate people that initiated it. The same for the French revolution and nearly all other such situations.
And now with the current situation in Europe and the EU ministers decision on the Cyprus bank bail outs, they are sowing and fertilizing the seeds of another upheaval.
There’s been a great deal of discussion of how the deal came about, with a particularly detailed account at the Wall Street Journal. The new stance at the creditor nations and the ECB is that there will be “private sector participation” which is bureaucrat-speak for haircuts to the people who funded the banks. And in the fracas over renegotiating the pact so as to make it less unpalatable to the locals, the Eurozone officials have made clear they don’t care how Anastasiades skins this particular cat as long as he comes up with €5.8 billion from local deposits. Banks were due to be closed Monday on Cyprus for a holiday; officials are now considering imposing a bank holiday on Tuesday. Funds have been frozen in the meantime, producing what is likely to be the emblematic photo of this crisis, of a man trying to break into his bank branch:
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Now the EU officials could easily calm nervous depositors by announcing an ECB-backstopped deposit guarantee, instead of the current national system which depends on not-exactly-credible central banks. Germany and its fellow surplus countries have hesitated about proceeding with the necessary steps to further economic integration (notice how the plan to implement eurozone wide bank supervision, which Germany insisted was a precondition to Eurozone-level deposit guarantees, has languished?). Germany is trying to maintain policies that are contradictory: it wants to continue to have large trade surpluses, yet not fund its trade partners; its wants debtors to meet their obligations, yet refuses to allow either enough in the way of fiscal deficits or monetary easing to keep debtor countries from falling into deflationary spirals, which assure default. Germany’s failure to relent on any of these conditions means that what breaks will be the financial system. – Naked Capitalism
It took FDR meeting with the heads of the unions and communists and socialist parties to convince him that this country was very close to another revolution in the 1930s. It was this sort of situation that brought Hitler to power and also brought down a number of leaders in other countries. People are not stupid and when they see that they are being sacrificed for the good of those in the upper crust..when they feel they have no say or recourse…when they feel desperate, they will eventually take matters into their own hands.
The PTB need to realize and be aware that it’s groups of highly desperate and pissed of people that will force a change in the current situation for good or bad. Not some high minded organized plot by some subversive element. Though these elements will often take credit for it, they generally are not the instigators.



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Recommended because it’s true. In 1789, fishwives pissed off and desperate over the skyrocketing price of bread marched on the palace of Versailles, killed two royal guards, and damned near captured King Louis XVI and Queen Marie Antoinette. Many historians cite this event for the trigger of the French Revolution.
In 1917, people desperate for food were breaking into any establishment that might have any. The Imperial Cossack Guards, instead of slashing them down, actually helped them(there’s a very nice scene about this in the 1970 movie Nicholas and Alexandra), and the Czar was forced to abdicate by Kerensky, et al.
One thing both events have in common was that nobody “in the know” saw them coming. Not King Louis or Robespierre, not Czar Nicholas or Kerensky or Lenin.
Desperation will drive people to do things that few would ever guess.
The PTB having never been in this kind of situation could never guess that it would happen. To them [TPB] it appears to be insane. And this is where the danger really lies. Because to those who feel desperate, it’s a purely reasonable and acceptable reaction.
Remember the Star Trek episode “The Galileo Seven”.
I examined the problem from all angles,
and it was plainly hopeless.
Logic informed me that, under the circumstances,
the only possible action would have to be one of desperation.
Logical decision, logically arrived at.
Mr. Spock explaining why his decision to jettison all the fuel a shuttle had left in order to send up a flare. The original Star Trek actually has quite a bit of social commentary embedded in many of its episodes, but considering who its creator was, it’s not that surprising.
I think one reason they started to remake the movie franchise recently, with a different timeline, is because the subsequent TV series followed the original to its logical conclusion–the capitalist Ferengi, the fascist Cardassians, the imperialistic Klingons and Romulans, all end up succumbing to or joining the socialist Federation.
Better change THAT message. But I digress again.
Your point is well-made. Those who have never been truly desperate simply cannot understand those who are; as a result they underestimate what the desperate can do, and are shocked when the latter actually have some successes.
Look at Iraq. In the years after Bush declared the mission accomplished, Iraqis were quite effective in inflicting casualties on the high-tech imperial occupation forces with primitive weapons. History is replete with such examples.
TPB evidently flunked history. Too bad.
If they bring back the guillotine, I might take up knitting.
Thank you, cmaukonen. Rec’d highly
Has the brainwashing of law enforcement been enough to protect the PTB ? I think not.
However this turns out, it will not be pretty.
Necessary and unavoidable; but not pretty. Good luck
PEACE
You know the old saying about those who flunk history being condemned to repeat it. (Or, uh, something to that effect.)
Slightly OT:
It would seem the Cypriot bank bail out will be rejected by Parliament this afternoon even though an agreement to exempt those with less than €20,000 had been reached.
Ives Smith has again pointed out that one of reasons behind the savings grab is to diminish Cyprus as a tax and money laundering heaven.
But she also points out that Cyprus is not the only one being used as such and even some US States qualify in that aspect so those doing this will simply move on.
Thanks for staying on this subject, cmaukonen, and your title seems particularly apt this morning. Here is just part of a comment from poster Claudius, which Yves Smith follows (too long to post, but it is her article just above Links so you can scroll down for comments.)
“…What has really pissed-off Russia was when, despite denials and assurances from the US state department, a meeting was held in Ankara (November 2012) with the American Ambassador to Cyprus, John Koenig, along with British, Greek and Turkey government heads. The meeting discussed a plan: British bases in Cyprus will be turned into NATO bases – the ‘three-party guarantee’ of Britain, Turkey and Greece will be abandoned – and NATO will take over. America wants its ships there…”
Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/03/gaming-the-cyprus-negotiations.html#RE6mRUCzCChJGKTQ.99
And here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/debt-crisis-live/9939296/Cyprus-bailout-live.html
There weren’t as many comments when I initially linked so thanks. It’s easier now to see how the political posturing is playing into this situation.
Question being how long will the people play along ?
It can’t happen soon enough.
As far as knitting goes, my list grows daily with Ds and Rs almost equally represented.
From The Guardian:
BREAKING: The Cyprus parliament has rejected the bailout deal.
36 MPs voted no, and 19 abstained.
The pampered and over-privileged U.S. elites are not just flabby and clueless, they are becoming tremendously insecure. Why do plutocrats like Bill Gates seek to destroy the ability of a robust public education system to foster critical thinking skills? They are afraid of anything but docile, subservient technocrats. This is why it is vitally important that we bring masses of people into the streets to celebrate labor on May 1. BTW have y’all heard this great tune by Tom Morello inspired by the uprising in Madison, WI? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZT71DxLuM
Enjoy!!