photo by timbrauhn on flickr.
Good morning everyone. Since we were having internet broadband connection problems last night, I am re-posting this non-fiction essay from last year, and I hope you enjoy it. It is on par with some discussions we were having last week at Over Easy, about homelessness and poverty in general. Please feel welcome to share your experiences. Off-topic is welcome as well.
Embracing Bohemianism
There was a time, early in my dumpster diving and scavenging life when I clung to the notion that somehow, some way, I would have a lot of money, and things would be wonderful. By scavenging, I mean this in the truest sense. There was a Labor Ready close by, but it was always packed, and if you were not a connected regular worker, days could pass without work and so, I looked for coins in the street. One coin leads to almost always another nearby. Fast-food drive through windows were the best places to search for breeding loose change.
My feet hurt all the time. There is no real place to sit in any given urban area. It can take all day to put a meal together because this place that has this thing for these few cents can be very far from that one. Sometimes I would sit, on a curb, to rest my feet and study people. Here is what one who fits into society puts into a shopping cart at the grocery.
Weekend shopping carts were the best to watch because many people with lives shopped on the weekend. They could not only afford to eat, they could also afford to wash clothes. They had dishes and they could wash them. They rushed and rushed, all the time. Groceries, appointments, lessons, kids. Rush, rush, drive and park. Rush in and rush out. In and out the aisles, up and down the stairs, a non-push push here, a little shove there, rush, rush. Everyone had a phone and every call was as if it were the last phone call ever to be placed; everything was important to everyone.
I studied and studied: There is what one wears. Here is what one drives. Here is one who maintains a lawn. This one has made beds and not just mattresses. Everything matches. There is never, ever less than everything. Everything for the car, everything for the kid, everything for the home. I’ll just bet, I would think to myself, that these are some underpants people. One clean pair for each day of the week, I’m certain of it.
I studied and studied, so that someday, when I had a life just like those people, I would be ready. I would know what to buy, and what to wear to buy it, and how to cut my hair and what toothpaste to use for the whitest teeth, what car to be seen in, what gym to be seen at, what detergent for the most gleaming clothes. I could drink with the shopping cart people someday because the ads everywhere assured me I could. Casually not checking the level in my glass, I could drink and be younger and thinner and sexier and funnier, because people who fit into society, of course, don’t have a half gallon of Popov vodka under the kitchen sink, and they are not sitting in a room, in a worn-out recliner, twisting the window shades shut to make sure the passing public is not aware.
I studied and studied, so that someday, when I had a life, the only thing that I would ever be tired from would be my wonderful, lucrative job where I was admired and constantly promoted. I would go out to dinner, go to the park, attend important meetings where I would make important decisions, supervise people and projects, tell people that my schedule was too busy just now, could we do this say, next week. I would drink designer cups of coffee with all the right people in all the right places and plan more coffee time with more people.
I would have people in my life who would ask, so that I could tell them these things and make these plans.
During my studies, my curb was not always solitary. But it was always anonymous, which was absolutely perfect, because the non-distance distance allowed me to shock, comfort, and then leave the company of wandering curb dwellers. I could say anything from So how much time did you do this last time, to Boy do I ever remember living on a plane all the time. I could curb-blend. I had no idea how to blend in with the socially acceptable groups I studied, but this was minor. It would come with time, teeth, looks, youth, money, and a home packed with beautiful things and visited by gardeners and housekeepers.
On my curb, I was lower than some and higher than others, and a perfect judge of everyone.
The shopping cart underpants people were a blast to judge: I’ll just bet this one is sleeping with that one and lying about it to this other one and milking this from that one and cooking the books and showing up a little too late and a little too hung over. Well, they kind of made it easy to be supreme judge because they talked about themselves all the time and always loud because I was just a nobody on a curb, who would shut up for that? The lower people were no match for my curb-gavel, I mean, I’ve hit the skids, but at least I’m not walking around the park asking strangers for money.
I did not know any of these people and I judged them all, every last one of them, from my curb courtroom. The court of last resort. I judged the cart people because I wanted to be the cart people. That way, other cart people would like me.
Today, I subsist on what people throw away. I do not have the wonderful job or the money or the possessions that I once wanted and thought I needed. I notice more because I am not in a hurry. I do not judge people anymore. I am just fine, being who I am, and being poor. It is more than enough.




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I would like to publicly thank the McDonald’s worker in Lone Oak, KY (Paducah), who answered my frantic, lunatic phone call at 2:45 AM. He assured me that if I had a pre-4:30 AM (McDonald’s opening time) posting deadline, their parking lot would work fine. As it turns out, our broadband issue resolved at 5:30 AM, so we are not in the McDonald’s.
That man needs to be promoted.
There but for fortune go I.
Phil Ochs
Good morning pups.
Thanks for the post and host especially considering what you had to go through.
Brings a tear. Not only does he sing like a bird, his message is powerful: just a hop, skip, jump…and ‘them’ can be ‘us.’
Thank you for stopping by, JClausen. To this day, I enjoy observing people from a curb, even though it’s been a while.
Crane-Station, Good Morning.
This is simply a wonderful piece and I missed it before, so I’m glad you’re re-posted it.
Curb Courtroom. You have such a great way with words.
Thank you!
The best line ever written on Over Easy? I think so.
Thanks for this CS.
Good morning firedogs.
Crane-Station, good morning and thank you for the post.
Good morning everyone.
JC, did you get my note yesterday about visiting down here after we come up to Decorah for lunch,Seedsavers,and the Eagle nest?
After I posted it, you had already departed the thread.
I remember this. And I strongly recommend the Frog Gravy series of posts, which this somehow reminded me of.
Where I am, there are very few people on the street. Notice I did not say homeless. We have a lot of homeless, probably more than I know. But in my area, the churches have taken on the responsibility of caring for them. They sleep in different churches at night, there’s a basement in one of the apartment buildings that has small lockers for them, and transportation to the social services complex (A re purposed shopping center).
And ya know what? The churches don’t seem to care about race, sex, age, gun ownership, position on immigration, position on Obamacare or religion no matter what the GOP thinks is important. They’re just helping as they can.
Boxturtle (We need more churchs like that and fewer like Westboro Baptist)
I think I agree, Kris.
Can this chick write, or what?
Thanks, C-S, I remember seeing people sitting on curbs when I worked in Dallas, and wondering why. Tired feet. The sort of thing our rugged individualists think people should endure longer before they get social support they worked for.
I think people who don’t have their own home who sleep at a church are still considered Homeless, BT.
Excuse my indulgence this morning but I am remembering growing up with these songs and remembering my parents who let me have this music when it first published. Unfortunately, so damn fitting ever since.
I’m impressed :) Good morning demi. How’s the weather out there on the best coast?
I am looking forward to your visit. I also have a good friend in Galena and may be able to visit your way as well.
I am also thinking of a Wisconsin meetup this summer.
I was referring to you and others and the conversations we have had, regarding your great outreach work to the homeless, demi. The hat tip goes to you this morning.
There are still a lot of good people in this world looking out for their fellow human beings.
Look at the kindness demi shows for the guys on the park bench down the street from her.
BoxTurtle, thank you for that post, it restores faith that some people are doing for others and race,ethnicity,political views do not matter.
Great post…thanks. Glad to hear that something good can
come outta McDonalds;) Thanks for your efforts.
LOL! Good morning, Kris.
I gotta admit, that’s impressive. If it’s a corporate store, call the 1-800 number and leave a compliment. My wife used to be a McManager and those 800 calls get attention, good or bad.
Boxturtle (why is it when people like what I do they tell me but when they don’t they tell my boss?)
Crane-Station,
Update from last week: I ended up not taking Bob out to lunch because he likes to hang on his corner. It’s where his cart is and he has to keep an eye on it and he likes to be where people can find him. So, I went out and bought sub sandwiches and we sat in my van on the street and ate and talked. I thought about sitting on the curb with him, but I remembered what you said about the sore feet and all, so we sat in the van with the Seats. While we chatted, a friend of his came along, with his cart. I recognized the fellow from MEND and the three of us chatted away. Several Underpants People walked by from time to time and do you know what? They gave me weird looks. What was I doing? Well, for one, I was getting a first hand look at how folks look at the homeless.
Question: What nest are they using? I think it is the nest outside the camera’s view, but I am not sure. If so, I am going to file a complaint with the eagle pair, maybe even sue them for emotional distress.
Simply gorgeous. Clear and warm, which is good because I’m starting another painting project.
Wear those weird looks like a badge of honor, that’s what I say. Could be any one of us at any time.
The visit to Wisconsin would be great.
msmolly said the other day that she is 4 hours from Madison.
nonquixote would not have to travel the 7 hours to Decorah.
When the weather improves, maybe we can finalize some plans.
As msmolly said the other day, maybe there are others in the vicinity who could join in the fun.
Before I head out for the morning, the tune that turned me unknowingly (at the time) into activism on several levels and I am pleased to have recalled it today.
Inspiring piece of writing Crane-Station. Thanks for re-posting.
I followed your series previously, but so much goes by so fast, it is hard to keep up some times.
For Richard
Oh, absolutely. I didn’t mean to imply they weren’t homeless. But they aren’t sleeping on the street thanks to the local churches.
Boxturtle (It seems in general the smaller the church, the closer they are to God)
Churches in our area are cool as well. Frog Gravy update: I am working now as my own lawyer, writing an ineffective assistance of counsel brief. When my trial lawyer sees it, he might wonder if maybe it was forged in the flames of Hell. If he can read, that is.
Wow, that’s going above and beyond, Crane-Station! Happy to see that your problems finally were resolved, and thanks for your efforts.
*waves to everyone*
A bit late to the party this morning. I got sidetracked into looking for a photo for Friday’s Over Easy and the time just slipped away!
Over Easy is always good for starting my day with humor.
I had a little laugh about your filing a complaint with the Eagle pair for their inconsiderate behavior.
I will have to defer to JClausen about their location as he is a lot closer to where they live and what nest they are using.
Thank you for what you did for us this morning. It must have been a little stressful to say the least.
So many people are one paycheck away from oblivion.
I’ve learned that there is a caste system even among the homeless. The fellow I met up with from MEND sleeps in a tool shed in his Aunt’s backyard. He has electricity and a little bed and a boom box. He’s at the top. Then there’s Bob, who is just on the street, but has folks looking out for him and occasionally gets a paying day gig. He takes pretty good care of himself, shaving and cleaning himself. The bottom tier are the ones who just hang in the parking lot at the market or liquor store, are filthy and usually drunk and get into a lot of fights.
My poor brother is poor in terrible health and is allergic to penicillin and all pain medicine. So he was bothering no one growing 18 plants under ten inches for his little comfort in this world he could find. He has no teeth , from medicines he took when young and is on SS disability for about 5-6 hundred a month to live on.
Long and short of it the Gestapo showed up at his house one night, searched his house without a warrant, got a warrant, unsigned , after the fact and charged him with felony manufacturer and wanted his piss poor house in WV. After three years he had the charges reduced to misdemeanor possession. Went to meet with probation officer to be handed a $ 5,000 bill for his ” public defender and the costs, fines cost of probation.
I guess they’ll just take all his social security for 12 or 13 months. What a country.
Feet is something that people don’t think about. There is no place to sit, for a very large number of people who are on their feet all the time.
If they were kind enough to give you a weird look, you should give them a weird look. It’s only fair.
Boxturtle (it’s amazing what $5 can accomplish if you don’t dump it into a complicated financial instrument)
I am definitely in, so include me in the planning, please!
Heads up, I just got booted off the internet, then the connection turned back on. Things are okay again.
If I disappear, it’s not you guys or Over Easy. It is our broadband connection.
The church I volunteered in last year had a homeless pick up van but the hitch is Child Protective had to be called if anyone showed up with young children. Lost their home , job and now their kids. I won’t help them again.
Do you get any say in assigned lawyer? Seems to me I read not too far back about one of the condemned in Dallas who was released on the grounds of ineffective counsel since his assigned lawyer had slept through much of the trial.
Phil Ochs is a legend and a gem. Thank you so much for the links, and have a great day.
You are definitely in the plans.
How did the cross country skiing go yesterday?
Forged in the flames of hell? Geez, just because you get locked up for years on bogus charges, you take it out on your lawyer!
If you write up with the same skill you wrote Frog Gravy, I’ll bet the judge hangs on every word.
Boxturtle (Can the court order a Pulitzer Prize awarded?)
He was a public defender assigned to my case. IMO, he was worse than sleeping, because at least the impaired lawyer is not acting as a second prosecutor. Good to hear they reversed for that in a Texas death case. Unbelievable.
Crap like this gives public defenders, who are often excellent, a bad name.
Good Morning Crane Station and Firedogs -
amen sister. there was yet another report late last week showing 43% of americans are only one financial crisis away from poverty – I think it’s closer to 65%
beautifully written piece CS – thanks
Safe to say, I don’t think they have seen anything quite like this. That said, I am anticipating that it will be the Sixth Circuit reading, since Kentucky courts seem to be utterly hopeless.
Probably 65%, one flat tire, and ten minutes.
Good morning, cbl, and thank you for stopping by.
In a lot of places, that’s intentional. If you can’t see the homeless, they aren’t there. Problem solved!
A fear years ago, I remember reading about a contract from some city (LA?) to design street benches that would only be comfortable for 30 minutes or so. This after a contract to design benches that can be sat upon, but not slept upon.
This was met with approving editorials and citizen comments.
Boxturtle (Hopes there is a God and He has copies of those contracts)
The amount of debt workers are taking on to keep from going over that edge is scary. After the regular paycheck becomes temp worker scrapings, people try to maintain a lifestyle of underpants people style for much too long.
Crane-Station is a gifted writer.
Her writing style is fresh, smooth and warm. More important than style, the substance of her writing encourages her readers to open their minds and think.
Don’t blame the church for that, I suspect that’s a state requirement.
If it is the church, ask them why. there may be a good reason for it.
Boxturtle (CPS can find a house for kids, even if the parents have to sleep in a pew)
I become physically sick, reading stuff like this. I knew people who were serving multiple years for weed. Our system just loves to lock up folks like this, while the violent ones run around the streets buck wild.
We have our for-profit PIC to thank.
Disgusting.
Forgive me for not being Up on your case. What would be the best resolution and what do you hope to gain? They can’t give you back the years you spent on the inside, unfortunately, but, is there any chance of a financial award?
Go native, I say.
Crane-Station, what a wonderful essay this is. Leaves me near tears. Those of us who are fortunate to be “underpants people” might also be very caring and compassionate, as I think I am…but we just don’t truly think of what the curb dwellers are enduring, day after day.
Oh it was wonderful! The weather was perfect! I only fell down twice! How one can fall on a very flat golf course in several inches of fresh snow is a mystery, but I did! The fall was harmless, but the getting back up with skis still attached is a challenge. I’m a bit stiff and creaky (more than usual) this morning.
no garnishment of SSI allowed is still a general rule – except for Child or Spousal Support, IRS debt,
he’s better off if it’s paid as direct deposit instead of a check. 2011 rule change forbids banks from automatically freezing accts upon receipt of garnishment request – they now have to separate out and protect any Fed benefits
Wonder if those same people claim to be following the teachings of Christ, who was essentially dirt poor.
Its not like we need a lot to do, cuz most of the time we’ll be online allowing others to join the vicarious pleasure we find in getting together in person.*g*
Oi. I click away for half an hour and miss bunches of comments. You’re a chatty bunch of firepups this morning!
You know what? It would be funny if it weren’t true. Back in the days when FDL was promoting Meet Ups, the mister and I drove a couple of hours south to meet up with Loo Hoo, newtonuser, peanutbuttercup and a few others. We met at a restaurant and took over their patio. Everyone whipped out their laptops and went online. I thought it was hysterical.
I’m excited for those of you who are planning this meet up. Should be a blast.
I hope to get a reversal, but do not have any expectations. I would like my life back, but that won’t happen. Too early to tell on the financial thing.
To raise public awareness about the broken criminal justice system and the reality of incarceration, through writing, is what I am aiming for right now.
And now we have Skype and FaceTime so people can truly join in live!
nonquixote is way up north but I really would like to visit his area cuz it sounds so wonderful, but right now am thinking Madison.(4 hours for Msmolly, 3 hours for me, and maybe three for nonquixote)
Why don’t I have you that are interested in a meetup email me at
amyfenclATmsn.com.(my wife’s maiden name…was good for telemarketer slips as it rhymes with pencil)
I always love your writing, CS. Thank you for the post ‘n host.
Raising public awareness is a most compassionate endeavor. Thanks, C-S.
Falling down is part of the sport whether it is ice skating or skiing. Glad you had a good time and your description of being able to park the car, ski, and end up back at the car was great.
I do not know about your weather but tonight we are supposed to get a winter cocktail, rain, freezing rain, sleet and maybe changing to snow later. If the antenna from the ISP gets covered with ice, I cannot get onto the Internet so I am hoping it will not be serious schtuff.
Your rear end
Or as some people call it:
Your backside
Your junk in the trunk
Your Ba-donk-donks
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
Your carry on luggage
My two weird cousins
Your mirror ball
Your gross domestic product
Your second face
Your…OH! Hi Kris!
Blue Man Group.
PS: Please tell Captain Jaugernutts to Fire up the Band.
I am really looking forward to the trip both to Decorah and also the Wisconsin trip. We talk so much here at FDL, it will be fun to meet up in person. Like you said, more the merrier and msmolly said just a while ago that she is definitely in for a meet up.
We fully expect photos, you know.
Photos and a post or it didn’t happen.
LOL!
Hear, hear!!! Such a way with images and words. Lovely always, CS!
I want my falls to be epic and spectacular, but they never are. It’s never like, “I caught 15 feet of air while skiing behind that horse, but halfway into the second back flip…
No.
I once broke my arm rollerblading, because I tripped over a speed bump in a parking lot.
I saw Blue Man Group live a few years ago in Chicago. They’re loads of fun!
Sounds like he would fit in very well here. Or anywhere he chooses to be!
The check is in the mail, oldgold. lol, kidding, this really means a lot to me to hear this, and I thank you so much for this!
Photos definitely.
Thank you RevBev. I am going to follow up on that McDonald’s night worker compliment.
BoxTurtle had a great suggestion, and I will follow up.
My second fall was a couple hundred yards from the shelter thingy at the entrance to the course, so I just flipped off the skis and walked the rest of the way.
Hope we can go again before winter is over. This is the first big snow we’ve had this year, and it is supposed to warm up by the weekend and rain. (Al Gore helps himself to another piece of pie…)
So great to see you this morning, reader (I watch for your comments at FDL). Very much appreciate the read and the kind comment.
I am jealous. Was reading their Wiki this week, saw where they had some union worker negotiations issues over workers specifically assigned to maintain the instruments. Also read that the instruments are based on ancient instruments.
Good to see you as well bgrothus, thank you for stopping by.
My recollection was that their stuff was pretty much electronic, but to be honest I don’t really remember. But their skits and routines are funny and satirical and there was lots of audience participation.
The way things have been this winter, anything is possible and I do hope you get to enjoy another outing.
Crane-Station, thank you so much for this post today. I have to run some errands so I will check in later.
Decorah Eagles nest covered in snow this morning, missing the birds.
Eagles got some splainin’ to do.
Awwwww, you make me teary. I am hoping to get myself organized to keep up with FDL and Over Easy, at least. I always look for your posts and pop them open first to read. I miss SD and you’ve all done such a great thing continuing his spirit. I’ll try to speak up more often.
And you are a very gifted writer. I read/skim A LOT of stuff, doing a lot of research recently. Your writing is so readable. It’s not a simple thing at all ~ it’s part of your power.
Have a great day, AppleCanyon2!
Well, I wish you would speak up more often and I know I am not alone!
70707070707!!!!
Awwww. OK, done: you are a powerful persuader!
Oh CS I can relate about the “day dreams” though mine were not of becoming “one of the beautiful people”. But then I am geek. :-)
I had my own geeky kind. Someday I will invent something or develop something and become famous. Sigh…the time waited in my youth.
Oh I did a lot of experimenting. Came up with my own way to “eves drop” on all those data and news and weather service transmissions of shortwave.
Was doing dial-up to the internet long before this became know to the general populace or even at my university.
Did my own kind of scrounging. Being so broke after my father died. Would ride downtown on my bike with some rope and scrounge behind the local TV shops for discarded TVS and radios etc.
Was quite a site peddling back home with a tone of chassis tied onto my handle bars. HA…it’s a wonder I did not wind up in the hospital.
Build amplifiers and converters and what no on scrap 1×10 boards. Went to the local junk yards. I could get a old car radio for a buck or so but had to remove it myself.
Those dreams AKA fantasies gone long ago. But my love of building and modifying etc. has not. And truly do not care if anyone knows of benefits from what I do or not.
And I am not in it for the money.
Goodness, where are my manners. Good morning, msmolly, and thank you for commenting.
I haven’t seen anything about a mating yet — I follow the Raptor Resource Project on Facebook. I think it’s about the time the mating usually occurs.
They’re probably out there, enjoying their extended sexy vacation. Making us wait. Laughing at us, mocking us, savoring the moment…
I tell ya.
Good morning, CS. Hope your connectivity problems are resolved.
Ever been to one of those inventors’ conventions? Unbelievable, what people think of. I love visiting patent sites, and looking at stuff that has been patented in the past. Great fun.
It’s never too late!
Holding out for a better offer, more benefits, I betcha.
Jane! As I live and breathe, good morning to you as well.
Yeah, we can’t function without the connection, so we hope it stays fixed. Thanks for stopping by!
Ungrateful, cruel, ruthless, wretched eagles. The nerve!
LOL! They’re looking for a new agent, perhaps! We should submit a proposal! Get them a good gig AT THE PERFECT NEST! [Meaning the usual nest, of course ...]
It is never too late, as CS says! Well, that’s MY story and I’m stickin’ to it. Some say the imagination, creativity, and do-how are the key. If you study entrepreneurship, you see that it’s not alwasy (*ever?) the “best” product that wins the day. So the “catching-on” part is a challenge as well. I am working on helping someone else with something they have created. At one point we thought it had all been done before (gasp) but now it looks like the idea may be part of some serious #trending. And I am trying to figure out how to get down to doing a design for an idea I have. I need to know I tried, at least. I’m done with a lot of the “trying” but have some left to work on.
Never.Give.Up.
Can I get a witness? Amen, sister. Amen.
Thanks. I think though I will simply just carry on as I am for now. Besides I’ve become too much of a cynic and curmudgeon in my old age.
No worries, cmaukonen ~ I know your work around here ~ I feel cynical and curmudgeonly a lot of the time recently. I hear you.
You’ve got me sounding all optimistic and stuff, CS! Don’t you DARE tell a soul! LOL.
The difference between a cynic and a realist is that the cynic is right more often.
Boxturtle (curmudgeon extraordinaire)
Oh by the way…
This stuff is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Bohemian Rhapsody.
Well now, that looks really cool. They certainly have a great marketing idea with the name, and I love the website.
After my AM coffee, I usually switch to tea, instant, with Equal sweetener, but BoxTurtle mentioned a connection between sweetener and migraines. Since I am a migraine sufferer, I have not had my rotgut tea concoction since I read that.
The Moonshine tea does look good. (I am assuming there is no alcohol!)
These guys are cute, talented, funny and creative. Love it, and had not seen them before.
And as a piano concerto.
Thanks for this one, CS…..
Highly rec’d!
Oh, Rach.
I have another thing to add to the list of items I buy at the 99 cents store. I’m past menopause, so I forgot, the womens out there need feminine products.
It doesn’t stop just because one is sitting on curb.
I try to stay on the alert so that I know what to pick up to share.
I hope I never get to there.
I notice that you only post when you’re at work.
Does your wife not share the same progressive values that you hold?
Maybe that’s too invasive, and I apologize for that if that’s the case.
Any post after about 3:30 is from home, as this one is. But it seems to me that the best people are the morning people around here. We can disagree politely (though we don’t always), are abnormally well informed, and tend to produce more interesting discussions. Have you ever considered how well-rounded Over Easy is? We’ve got lawyers, ex-cons, cops, politicians, engineers, teachers, office workers, retired,kidhearders (I prefer that to housewife or househusband) students and those are just the folks who’ve mentioned their profession and I’ve managed to remember.
Wife does not share all my values, but politics annoys her to the core and we rarely discuss it. She wants a wall around the country, firmly believes that drones are precision strike weapons that only hit our enemies and their friends, and thinks we’d be better off with no government rather than the one we’ve got.
I don’t think she has any idea how active I am here. She doesn’t read any blogs or even acknowlege their current social impact. She thinks bloggers are bathrobed, socially inept, cheetos covered basement dwellers.
Boxturtle (I see I still talk too much)
I think you talk just enough. You say what you want to say.
If she were to know how much your friends here hold you in esteem, I bet she would be proud.
Hand you’re dealt, hand you choose.
No alcohol, and naturally sweetened. So no migraines :)
I see you’ve spotted the cheetos on my shirt.
Well. This is awkward.
Oooooh. I just finished off a bag of Cheetos the other night to the horror of my children who thought tasty puffs were bought for them. As if.
Don’t be hatin’ on the afternooners, BT. Some of us just don’t have the sense to live in the Eastern or Central time zones… Seriously, though, I wish OE started later so I could catch all the morning chit chat in real time.
That is such a gracious response….surely nice that you’re one of the morning people. Welcome…BL
Kids are so stupid sometimes. My kids think they can drink my Moonshine sweet tea or eat my Blue Bell chocolate-covered cherry ice cream.
I’m jealous of you! I miss LLN. Doesn’t post until midnight my time.
*sad face
Oh, gosh, Bev. Did you think my comment was inappropriate? I didn’t mean it to be.
Naw. Her reaction would be something like “Daammmmnnnnn…you could sell shoes to snakes”.
Boxturtle (It’s the internet. Nobody can see me blush)
Thank you so much, Disgusted in Euclid, very much appreciated!
Give up some sleep!
Boxturtle (sympathy is not my strong suit)
Excellent point. Hygiene products will always be appreciated and put to use. They are essential for public health as well. Makes me wonder why the powers-that-be want so much to make these provisions unavailable.
Well, good afternoon, yellowsnapdragon! True, there are a couple of shifts, it seems. No worries, we know where you live. And if you don’t check in, well, you know, where do that leave us…we’ll come knocking./(kidding)
I didn’t take it to be. No worries!
Boxturtle (I can try work up a snit, if RevBev would like :-) )
Kinda funny: Truth is, I lurked in the very early days (circa 2005/Valerie Plame days) because my husband spent so much time at the Lake. I hated that. I hated that he spent so much time online. I never really understood the allure. To be honest, it nearly was a problem for our marriage.
But then, I figured, if you can’t beat ‘em.
It’s been all downhill from there. Bathrobe? Ha! (You don’t even want to know.)
Yeah, but we both spend too much time online sometimes. So the offender gets grumped at and quits as soon as convienent.
Boxturtle (there’s not a speck of cheetos on my bathrobe. It’s covered in pet fur)
When our parrot steals our food, we send him to the naughty step.
Oh, good. Ya think my snit is better than yours; or Demi’s?
No Demi to answer your question;) We’ll have to compare snits;
not sure how but bet we can think of something….
There were times in 2005 when I actually lurched about the place, drunk as a motherfucker, with a hammer, determined to beat his computer to death. Word: A hammer won’t do the trick. Now, a liquid, on the other hand…
All because of Fire. Dog. LAKE.
Crane-Station,
Thanks for the lovely thread and wonderful thoughts today.
Sleep well.
Say Hi to Fred from me, will ya?
‘Night, Gracy, et al….Geez, Ive had a long day.
Cheers.
It has been a pleasure to read through the snits and fits and other commentations. Thanks for posting and hosting C-S.
couldn’t resist.
Peace and Resolve and Joy,
Night Night, Reverly! :)
Good night RevBev, get some rest!
Fred is smiling, thank you and have a wonderful evening.
A song that should be heard, thank you for this and other from Phil Ochs today, and have a great evening, nonquixote.
Yes, thanks for all the Phil.
I love that Over Easy is an all day thread.
Cheers, all.
Cheers, ysd and take good care.
So do I, yellowsnapdragon, thank you.
Peace Out.
Well, you could suggest that he hop into the conversation sometimes. Unless you share a computer, in which case you could do what Ruth and Spuds have done and just preface your comment with your nom so we know who’s talking.
BTW I am still waiting for a DVD of Green River Killer, ever since he posted about that. Netflix has it down in my “unknown” list.
Well, talk about missing the thread!
I actually looked in around lunchtime on my phone, but for some reason, couldn’t post. Or play the youtubes.
Your post was very moving, C-S. I’ve read some of your series, but not this one. You definitely can write!
Catch you all another day. (and yes, don’t be hating on the afternooners! Heck, we can’t help our schedules or timezones…)
Good to see you, tejanarusa, and thank you so much for the read and for the kind comment!
We have separate screens, as Fred aka Mason (Masoninblue) has a busy website that he must spend a lot of time with (it’s a bizarre thing, having to deal with sock puppets, trolls, spam, and other vile stuff, we have a lot of respect for moderators at the large sites like this one).
The Green River Killer is a sad and interesting case. Ridgway would have likely been caught far sooner if he a) was killing rich, connected women and not prostitutes and b) if he looked and acted more like what Hollywood and the media tells us. The media tells us how serial killers should look and act. Ridgway emerged as a suspect early in the investigation, but he took and passed a polygraph in 1987, so they let him go for lack of evidence.
In the end, it was the updated DNA techniques and subsequent testing, that led to Gary’s conviction. He pled guilty, in exchange for a life sentence.
Gary Leon Ridgway was a Caspar Milquetoast: meek, timid, unassertive and shy. He did not have a wild, insane look in his eye. He looked ordinary, as would a produce manager or, as was the case for Gary, a truck painter in a factory.
He did not fit the profile, and expecting a profile in the first place was a mistake. So, this is the most notable thing about Gary. Some opine (including myself) that Gary likely began killing in the Philippines, when he was in the service. It is entirely possible that he killed upwards of a hundred people or more.
A cautionary tale of … something:
The Bahamian Bohemian was headed for Panamanian Pandemonium and Bolivian Oblivion.
LOL, almost like a micro-novel!
This made me smile, thank you, and good to see you, normanb!