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This week at the UN headquarters in Geneva, an Israeli delegation spent nine long hours arguing that a major human rights treaty, which it ratified in 1991, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights(ICCPR), did not apply to its treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza…
From the JPost…
…According to a press release put out on Wednesday by the UN Human Rights Committee, which held its periodic review of Israel’s compliance with that convention this week, Israel’s deputy attorney-general Malkiel Blass stated that his country believed the “convention, which was a territorially bound convention, did not apply, nor was it intended to apply, to areas outside its national territory.” [...]
The delegation said that “Israel did not control these territories and thus could not enforce the rights under the Convention in these areas.”
It said, however, that “the rules governing armed conflict provided some measure of rights guarantees in these areas.”
A UN Human Rights Committee expert rejected the argument and said that Israel could “not just sweep aside the application of the Covenant in the occupied territories.”
The expert added that Israel responded the same way each time the issue came up for review. Israel’s last review was in 2003…
Rather poignant since an old rant of Bibi’s is hitting the proverbial fan…
Gosh, kids can say the darnedest things…
Child: They say they’re for us, but, it’s like…
Netanyahu: They won’t get in our way. They won’t get in our way.
Child: On the other hand, if we do some something, then they…
Netanyahu: So let’s say they say something. So they said it! They said it! 80% of the Americans support us. It’s absurd. We have that kind of support and we say "what will we do with the…" Look. That administration [Clinton] was extremely pro-Palestinian. I wasn’t afraid to maneuver there. I was not afraid to clash with Clinton. I was not afraid to clash with the United Nations. I was paying the price anyway, I preferred to receive the value. Value for the price.
U.S. official: More U.S. aid will help Israel make ‘tough’ decisions
An expanded security aid package would allow Israel to reach tough decisions in its peace talks with the Palestinians, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Andrew J. Shapiro said Friday, adding that Washington planned to provide Israel with its most extensive security aid package in history.
Speaking at the Brookings Saban Center for Middle East Policy in Washington D.C., the assistant secretary spoke of the administration’s intention to enhance the annual security aid it provides Israel, saying that in "2010, the administration requested [from Congress] $2.775 billion in security assistance funding specifically for Israel, the largest such request in U.S. history."
Wtf…?
And Rahmbo wants to cut foodstamps…? *gah*
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It’s funny that they’re arguing about outside their ‘national boundaries’…
It’s interesting that the Knesset actually stripped an Arab Knesset member of ‘political rights’ this week…!
Knesset revokes MK Zoabi’s privileges
thanks
“‘No democracy exists here’
Zoabi spoke at a hearing before the vote and said the Knesset’s conduct proved democracy was nonexistent in Israel. Two MKs were removed from the plenum for conduct deemed unbecoming.
“A debate such as this cannot be held in a proper fashion, and it would shame any other parliament in the world,” said the Arab MK. “You can’t claim that democracy exists here. I am an MK and I have the right, even the duty, to fight for my positions.”
She went on to say that, far from revoking her rights, the other MKs should be protecting them. “You should have protected me from the racism against me because of my opinions,” she said.”
Israel proving once again they are not a democracy, but an apartheid fascist state.
Just watch this mess in Israel.
Democracy or fascist state?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRf0aB3BNEY
The moderators allows people to keep interrupting Zoabi and then tells her to hurry up she does not have much time because the Israeli apartheid thugs keep rudely interrupting.
Here are some of the horrendous insults at Zoabi during Knesset meeting.
Watch this meeting. This is democracy? More like bar room brawl
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/06/03/israeli-palestinian-mk-assaulted-in-knesset/
What a fucked up and terribly dysfunctional country.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/06/03/israeli-palestinian-mk-assaulted-in-knesset/
That video is really sickening to watch. Pure, unadulterated bigotry!
Which video Netanyahu or the one Macman put up? I will agree the clip of Netanyahu is shameful
The one where the Knesset were interrupting Zoabi, calling her names like ‘terrorist’, requiring guards to hold them back from rushing her.
It goes beyond political posturing, into something very blatantly bigoted. They would never treat a Jew from Labor that way — even if they disagreed with their POVs. And the fact they were doing this to a woman made it just that much more uncomfortable to watch…
MK Zoabi kept her dignity. Can’t say that for the rest. Great woman!
She was incredible. What a crazy ass event. The guy pretending that he was trying to maintain order would scream at her telling her she had five minutes and she could not get in one word edge wise between all of the insults and screaming.
A video from nine years ago.
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“Seated on a sofa in the house, he tells the family that he deceived the US president of the time, Bill Clinton, into believing he was helping implement the Oslo accords, the US-sponsored peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, by making minor withdrawals from the West Bank while actually entrenching the occupation. He boasts that he thereby destroyed the Oslo process.
He dismisses the US as “easily moved to the right direction” and calls high levels of popular American support for Israel “absurd”. ”
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100718/FOREIGN/707179891/1135
CT, the things you are covering are so incredible, it astounds me.
You are becoming a Raimondo about many affairs of the ME and East Asia.
And I greatly appreciate your efforts to inform and update us all.
As to the issues of the Israeli’s you report on, I always choke and sob a bit.
There’s a BIT of linkage there, a pattern, a corollary there in your posts on how we treat immigrants or our Southern Brown Brothers And Sisters South Of Our Border.
Yep, them brown bro’s and sistahs have a Gaza they are trying to escape from, run by drug cartels.
I have no answers.
Wish I did. It’s class war, and pure abuse of the masses, regardless of who is in control.
Be they US Corporate Fascists, Mexican Military, assorted Drug Cartels, Likud, or others.
There’s just too much oppression, suppression and callousness that’s wasting all of us, all of we the people.
Be we white, black, brown, yellow or red . . . we’re all being wasted.
Wish I had answers other than it’s gonna all collapse sooner than later.
We can’t substantiate this, not this species, not on this rock. No matter what wealth is gathered and hoarded.
Something’s gonna give, maybe in our time, too . . .
Sigh, think I’ll go sit on my patio and look at our plants.
I always feel better after that.
Rcc’d, of course, and thanks for all you do to inform and discuss.
What other Religion do we support to the tune of $ 2.775 billion a year.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” first line in the first amendment to our constitution.
What other religion do we support to the tune $ 2.775 billion a year?
That an active war criminal would lecture the UN on morality is chutzpah squared.
Try looking at the amount of annual aid to countries officially governed with Islamic law. the aid comes to great deal more than that 3 billion.
(not that it’ll matter to you)
or that it should matter, because aid to countries governed by religious law is not an endorsement of that religion.
(not that it’ll matter to you.)
Can I guess there’s a large chunk of that aid going to House Of Saud?
*G*
nope. guess again. they don’t need aid money, they get gobs and gobs from us in trade.
you again? we’re not supposed to feed you but since others have, i will just ask, regarding your formulation
the following question: is israel not a theocracy, subject to another version of abrahamic law which, in some cases is “better” and some cases “worse” than what is practices in islamic theocracies? or are you grasping for the racist straw, that “their” abrahamic theocracy is intrinsically worse than “yours”?
inquiring minds want to know?
if you read my comment as a response to a previous comment, which was the way I intended it to be read and thusly directed it, you should have an understanding that I wasn’t discussing religion in a comparative frame and was not really offering anything at all about religion(s) per se.
I hope that helps your mind and that you have a very lovely evening.
sure is a hot one, eh?
I thought to myself after the flotilla massacre, that the obummer would give bibi the hi fives and send a couple more drones to kill even more innocents in honor of god’s chosen people, and then send even more monies to the killers, looks like my thoughts were right on!!!
Damn, do any of these people have any shame at all, nothing but god damn murders.
Wow..
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don’t do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she’s ten feet tall
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you’re going to fall
Tell ‘em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Call Alice
When she was just small
Erdogan said they are liars, its all they do. They are like a lying machine.
A lying machine and people are not buying any longer. Netanyahu better take notice. Same old tricks not working
In much the same way giving a junkie more heroin will help him quit.
The Iranian President has never called the Holocaust a lie. He has questioned the numbers and has asked the records to be opened.
Netanyahu asking anyone “have you no shame” is so absurd, so Orwellian so hypocritical. He keeps using the same old tried and true aces. Holocaust, (never mentions the millions of others who perished in that horrendous genocide. The Iranian President has never said that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map. He has never said that. Yet liars like Netanyahu, Ledeen, Terry Gross and others keep repeating that debunked claim.
It is Israel, the I lobby and Israel’s policy which continues to be a mockery
you’re not even useful trying to deny his shit about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykd-syzZ4ZY
Everyone should watch and listen to what Ahmadenejad says over and over again?
He never says that the Holocaust did not happen? He does infer by asking “If this did happen?”
1st question. “In the second world war 60 million people lost their lives. They were all human beings. Why is it that only a select group of these who were killed have become so prominent and important.”
I have always wondered why our MSM, films about WWII etc only mention the 6 million Jews killed. For decades we only hear the 6 million mentioned. Not the 3 million Poles, gypsies etc. No mention ever. Only the Jews. And over and over again our media focuses on that particular genocide. What about all other genocides. Especially those that have taken place since WWII.
2nd question. “If it is a historical event. Then we should allow everyone to research it and study it. The more research and studies are done, the more we can become aware of the realities that happened. We still leave open to further studies absolute knowledge of science or math. Historical events are always subject to revisions and reviews and studies. We’re still revising our thoughts about what happened over thousands of years ago. Why is it that those who ask questions are persecuted? Why is there so much sensitivity or prohibition on further studies on the subject”
He makes solid points here. We have all been witness to historical events being revised, manipulated. This is a fact. Open up the records to everyone. Let them be studied.
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3. He then focuses on the Palestinian issue.
folks should watch and listen to Ahmadenejad carefully. His words have been fabricated and misinterpreted over and over again
Brian Williams then infers once again that the President said Israel “should be wiped away” He never fucking said that.
congrats, Leen. You’re now officially a Holocaust Denier Denier.
You should get your own room, comped, in the Bethlehem.
And this is where the moderators should jump in and stop you from your persistent lying and making claims that are simply untrue. Show me where I have ever said the Holocaust did not happen? Provide the proof. Your lying again.
Ahmadenejad makes solid points, open up and study the records?
Can Doremus and MM explain why our media and in documentaries only Jews are mentioned in that holocaust. Why no focus on others who were slaughtered in that genocide? Why only the Jews?
Why no focus in our media obsessed with that holocaust/genocide of the genocide in Darfur, Tibet? Why no focus by our media on more recent and just as horrendous genocides? Hmm? How do explain this MM and Doremus ? How do you explain the endless focus on just one horrendous genocide over and over again in our media? Can you explain?
Why only a mention of the Jews who were slaughtered?
Genocides
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
[Mod Note: Same message as to Macaquerman: Bring the rhetoric back down a few degrees]
foolish in support of foolishness, endless ignorance, and simple singlemindedness.
read “holocaust denier denier” again and try to figure the meaning of it before again calling me a liar. if you don’t understand it [Edited by Moderator. Say again: Dial back the rhetoric a few degrees.], ask what it means.
I grow tired of you calling me a liar because you do not understand things or don’t them things, or refuse to believe things that are manifest.
Perhaps because the world had never seen and has not seen since a state instituted factory system of extermination. In one day at Auchwitz 25,000 Hungarian Jewish were gased and burned. You just don’t see those great body counts anymore, anywhere. In addition the Holocaust for the Jews was the culmination of almost two thousand years of vicious Christian anti-Semitism. A lot of people and countries had very dirty hands.
now, have you read my link and quotation @37?
do you still deny that Ahmadinejad is a holocaust denier? have you figured out the meaning and will you retract calling me a liar?
aaaaaarrrggg.
Leen the meaning of “holocaust denier denier”
is NOT that you’re denying the holocaust.
It means that you DENY that Mahmoud is a “holocaust denier”
you got that?
He has never denied the Holocaust. Never. Asking for records to be opened. What is wrong with that. People should listen to his words not your or anyone else’s mis interpretation
He has never denied the Holocaust. Never
nor MM ever provided any links, facts, documents backing up their false claims.
see comment
37, 37, 37, 37
Because 6 million exceeds anything else of the kind, including Darfur, Sabra/Shitilla, Cambodia, etc.
Because it was the ugliest and sickest effort in the history of the human species I know of.
That’s why.
Your repeated mentions about this facet in thread after thread ignore the reality and DO give an appearance of anti semitism. You have far crossed the boundary of political criticism of Likud and Zionist Leadership.
Just MHO, Leen . . . and I still want to know why CT’s posts get hijacked off topic, almost every time by the same people.
As a reader, it begins to wear on me. Again, just IMHO.
“The Iranian President has never called the Holocaust a lie.” According to Ahmadinejad your statement is a lie. But then again I suspect that any lie justifies the end. Veritas, Veritas
show us where. Provide the links. Or stop lying
Your statement #22 is as good as it gets proving my statement. It’s nice to have you, for a change, on the side of historic truth.
where are your links of the Iranian president calling the holocaust a lie? Provide the links
Tut, I don’t know if this was posted by someone, but it should be sent ‘viral’:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/07/201071834019513292.html
That’s where I got the Bibi cite from, Ubet…! ;-)
U.S. aid to Israel
http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/245-2008-november/3845-congress-watch-a-conservative-estimate-of-total-direct-us-aid-to-israel-almost-114-billion.html
U.S. welfare payments to Israel
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
Mac… To quote Bibi… “So let’s say they say something. So they said it! They said it!”
What difference does it make if he denies the holocaust ever existed…?
what difference does it make what Netanyahu says, for that matter?
My prob is what Bibi is doing, Mac…!
right, and some of Israel’s problem is what Iran is doing.
Almost forgot, nice post CTuttle. Recommended.
http://www.juancole.com/2007/06/ahmadinejad-i-am-not-anti-semitic.html
“As most of my readers know, Ahmadinejad did not use that phrase in Persian. He quoted an old saying of Ayatollah Khomeini calling for ‘this occupation regime over Jerusalem” to “vanish from the page of time.’ Calling for a regime to vanish is not the same as calling for people to be killed. Ahmadinejad has not to my knowledge called for anyone to be killed. (Wampum has more; as does the American Street).”
And yet Terry Gross has repeated that lie over and over again. David Gregory, Stephanapoulous, Rachel Maddow, Neil Conan and many others have allowed that false statement to be repeated on their programs so many times that the war thugs have been successful at convincing the American people that Ahmadenejad said that. He did not.
One thing we do know is that Netanyahu and other Israeli officials along with the I lobby here in the states make daily threats against Iran
Thank you for going to Juan Cole’s read, and for making CLEAR what was said and how it was said.
As you offer, it’s all pro war machinery psy ops propoganda using The Israeli Card to incite and inflame the masses.
And it’s all bullshit.
Thanks for hammering on this, ‘preciate it all that you do.
shek was just busting my chops with that.
Leen
Just a simple question with a yes or no answer would be most helpful. Here it is: Do you think it is a verifiable historic fact that 6 million Jews were murdered by the Germans and others countries in WWII simply because they were Jewish? Remeber a yes or no answer will do nicely. Vertias, Veritas.
Yes I do. And a horrendous slaughter it was. But can not see why people would object to Ahmadenejad’s request that records be opened up? And he never ever says the Holocaust did not happen. Never. Please provide links to that claim you have made
And here is my question for you doremus35.
Do you think it is important that the others slaughtered in that genocide should be mentioned in films about that holocaust and in our MSM. Do you think that the 3 million Poles lives exterminated, Gypsies and other non Jews have a right to be mentioned. Do you think their lives have value enough? Should they be mentioned in our media? Or do Jews only have value in your world. Because that is the way it certainly appears
And another question. Do you think our media should spend as much time as they do on other genocides that have taken place (Darfur) and are taking place (Iraq) as much as they have endlessly spent mentioning and making films about the WWII genocide? Do those genocides have importance? Do those peoples lives have value in your book. Because from my take on you they do not.
Folks should read Norman Finkelsteins Holocaust Industry.
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/content.php?pg=3
Leen: I must leave now for a few hours, but when I return I will resume our tennis match. You have my word on it. Take care and will chat later.
“Do you think our media should spend as much time as they do on other genocides that have taken place (Darfur)…” Who did you say was rubbing out the native population in Dafur? I don’t think you can hang this one on the Israelis or Jews. Of course, I am sure she kisses frogs can dig up some fiction related to the ‘Protocols’ that says the Jews are doing that also. Good grief.
[Mod Note: as was told others, cool the rhetorical jets a few degrees]
***Mod Note: All slurs in this thread will stop now.***
Ahmadinejad Spews Raving Lunatic Anti-Semitism on ‘Jerusalem Day’
http://www.juancole.com/2009/09/ahmadinejad-spews-raving-lunatic-anti.html
Enjoy your room…… Holocaust[Edited by Moderator. Bring the rhetoric back down a few degrees]…
Yes I do remember that Juan Cole (who I trust) smashed Ahmadenejad for these inflammatory statements.
But in my book. Netanyahu and the Israeli government are far more dangerous than the Iranian President. Far more dangerous
And MM I ask you the same questions as I asked Doremus which they did not answer.
“Yes I do. And a horrendous slaughter it was. But can not see why people would object to Ahmadenejad’s request that records be opened up? And he never ever says the Holocaust did not happen. Never. Please provide links to that claim you have made
And here is my question for you doremus35.
Do you think it is important that the others slaughtered in that genocide should be mentioned in films about that holocaust and in our MSM. Do you think that the 3 million Poles lives exterminated, Gypsies and other non Jews have a right to be mentioned. Do you think their lives have value enough? Should they be mentioned in our media? Or do Jews only have value in your world. Because that is the way it certainly appears
And another question. Do you think our media should spend as much time as they do on other genocides that have taken place (Darfur) and are taking place (Iraq) as much as they have endlessly spent mentioning and making films about the WWII genocide? Do those genocides have importance? Do those peoples lives have value in your book. Because from my take on you they do not.”
no, Leen. not merely inflammatory statements, they are denials of the holocaust.
not the first time he denied it, according to Cole, but
.
and any of continuation of your horrendously incorrect and entirely valueless claim that he is merely calling for more research is also addressed.
who is the liar?
“not the first time he denied it, according to Cole, but”
Show us where?
Do you deny that Zionist confiscated and killed, and threatened Palestinians living on land now called Israel? do you deny these facts?
Also please answer these questions
“Do you think it is important that the others slaughtered in that genocide should be mentioned in films about that holocaust and in our MSM. Do you think that the 3 million Poles lives exterminated, Gypsies and other non Jews have a right to be mentioned. Do you think their lives have value enough? Should they be mentioned in our media? Or do Jews only have value in your world. Because that is the way it certainly appears
And another question. Do you think our media should spend as much time as they do on other genocides that have taken place (Darfur) and are taking place (Iraq) as much as they have endlessly spent mentioning and making films about the WWII genocide? Do those genocides have importance? Do those peoples lives have value in your book. Because from my take on you they do not.”
No, Leen, I’ll do no more, but I’ll allow to address Cole’s statement, including the part about the denial being
“more complete than before”,
retract your comment that I provided no link to Ahmadinejad’s holocaust denial, and answer “who is the lair”.
You show us.
show me where he exactly denies the holocaust in those statements.
Back to Netanyahu’s fine tuned ability to flip the script
Sorry to butt in, but the statement by Juan Cole cited by M-Man could not be clearer. He accuses Ahmadinejad of denying the Holocaust and the evidence he cites for this is undeniable.
Juan Cole quotes Ahmadinejad as saying, “My dear ones, the pretext used to establish the Zionist regime was a lie and a corrupt act. It was a lie based on a fabricated claim that cannot be proven. The occupation of the Palestinian land had no connection with the issue of holocaust. The claim, the pretext, [and the directors [dastandarkaran] and the patrons [hamiyan]] are all fraudulent and corrupt. . .”
Cole writes, “The US press coverage of the speech has focused on Ahmadinejad’s denial of the Holocaust, which seems more complete than before (he has in the past said that the number of dead, 6 million, has been ‘exaggerated’). He said this time, ‘Four or five years after the Second World War, all of a sudden they claimed that during this war, the Holocaust had occurred. They claimed that a few million Jews had been burned in the crematorium furnaces. . .’ “
To drive the nail home, Ahmadinejad is calling the Holocaust the “pretext” for the creation of Israel. His statement that “all of a sudden” after WWII “claims” were being made about a Holocaust having occurred clearly implies that he thinks such claims had been made up and were false.
The present Israeli government’s actions are sufficient in themselves to invite condemnation. We don’t have to defend a slimeball like Ahmadinejad, a scourge of his own people, to do so.
MM just reread that anti semitic rant by the Iranian President posted by Cole but still do not find any statement where he denies the holocaust.
Sorry C tuttle. Put myself on a time out. Hope MM and Doremus35 answer my questions.
A read of the entire article by Cole reveals much more than your singular point.
The Iranian leader is a putz, indeed, but he did not say what the MSM/Neocons say he said.
Not regarding Khomeini’s musings.
Is AJ a vile shit as Juan Cole suggests? Yes.
Two separate issues, distinct and different.
Why is it CT’s posts always get sidetracked?
Not blaming you . . . just an observation.
Larue, I was talking about mahmoud and the holocaust, not khomeini.
the point about khomeini and ahmadinejad and removing the Israeli regime, I addressed long ago in a post of my own.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/30319
not that I’m suggesting that you read it or anything.
I distinctly remember a proverb heard daily in the streets of Ur a few years ago: ‘A person who continually beats their head against the same spot in the electron probability cloud gets one hell of a kopfschmerzen.’Translated rather freely from the original Akkadian. Modern equivalent: you ain’t getting through that wall dude; try going around.
Ok . . . *G*
And where are those alleged fair and balanced moderators at Firedoglake? They don’t exist. MM please provide links to where I have ever denied the WWII holocaust? Links please. Otherwise stop your persistent lying
macaquerman July 18th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
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congrats, Leen. You’re now officially a Holocaust Denier Denier.
You should get your own room, comped, in the Bethlehem.
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[Mod Note: The Mods do not have time to babysit one thread all day. ALL sides cool the jets and rhetoric or NO comments will appear]
Tuttle, I’m sorry … and slinking off.
Netanyahu proves over and over again he has no shame. That would take conscience.
‘The world won’t say a thing’– Netanyahu on ongoing Israeli expansion
http://mondoweiss.net/
And as everyone can see. Doremus never answered my simple questions. And Doremus nor MM ever provided any links, facts, documents backing up their false claims.
Semantic Minefields
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/opinion/16pubed.html?_r=1
“Nathan Dodell of Rockville, Md., said it was “tendentious and arrogant” to use the word “settlements” four times in the article when the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has explicitly rejected it in relation to East Jerusalem. Obama has used the term himself to refer to construction in East Jerusalem, and Cooper told me, “I called them settlements because that’s the heart of the dispute between the Israelis and the United States: settlement construction in Arab East Jerusalem, which the Palestinians want for an eventual Palestinian state.”
But to Dodell, she was taking sides. He asked why she didn’t use a neutral term like “housing construction.”
Settlement is a charged word in this context, because it suggests something less than permanent on someone else’s land. Israel argues that all of Jerusalem is its undivided capital, a claim not recognized by the United States and most of the world. Articles by Times reporters in Jerusalem do generally use words like “housing” instead of “settlement.” Still, Ethan Bronner, the bureau chief, said it would be unwise to adopt a hard and fast rule, because some areas of the city taken by Israel in 1967 had long been Jewish neighborhoods while others, built more recently, had the feeling of settlements.”
Netanyhu the Israeli government, the Israeli lobby have no shame
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/13/palestinian-homes-bulldozed-israeli
Israeli’s no shame. These are some very very sick individuals. Really sick and brutal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
Israel and many Israeli’s have no shame
Hoax: Video Showing Heavy Weapons Discovered on Mavi Marmara is a Fraud
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/06/08/hoax-video-showing-heavy-weapons-discovered-on-mavi-marmara-is-a-fraud/
No shame
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=HD-tUKzGkwM&feature=related
Mm do you think this is shameful
Israeli’s no shame. These are some very very sick individuals. Really sick and brutal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg
Dang it, I step away to set up this nite’s LLN and ya’ll tear up the joint and piss off the hard working mods…! Tsk, tsk…! Ya’ll need to watch tonite’s vid…!
If I’m still welcome, I promise to watch… or do other penance of your prescription.
Netanyahu “we seek peace” But have never stopped building illegal settlements and repeats the lie that the Iranian president said “wipe Israel off the face of the earth” hogwash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlOvX4rP6Rg
Leen, don”t get sucked up in the ad hominem attack on Ahmedinijad, and lose the plot of the post, which is really an incredible indictment of Netanyahoo. I was the raging anti-semite yesterday. I’ll wear the label proudly in that case, because its doublespeak.
In agreement with you, History belongs to historians not politicians, but in Germany and canada refuting or questioning any aspect of history of the holocaust will get you 5 years behind bars, and will also jail your lawyer for defending you.
Truth should be able stand on its own. Its not a holy event and thats the way its treated. It’s a blight on humanity.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think it’s a crime in Germany to deny the Holocaust?
Back to Netanyahu has no shame and is one of the masters of double speak and flipping the script. Israel is in violation of I believe more UN resolutions than any other nation. Israel and Netanyahu are in defiance of the International Court of Justice ruling that the wall is illegal and that they are illegally occupying Palestinian lands.
Israel, Netanyahu, settlers keep building and expanding illegal settlements. Israel has proven they do not want peace.
They have no shame or conscience
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/today-in-palestine-bulldozed-homes-and-loyalty-oaths.html
Today in Palestine: bulldozed homes, and loyalty oaths
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Land theft and destruction/Ethnic cleansing
Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, “ICAHD Denounces Israeli Demolitions (and American Enabling)”
Although the pressure to demolish is constant — the Israeli authorities have demolished 24,000 Palestinian homes since 1967 and new orders are issued daily — the current wave of demolitions can only be explained on the background of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s visit to Washington a few weeks ago.
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/icahd150710.html
“FUCK THE FUCKING YANKEES!”
;-)
*tossingchocolateandmerlotandrunningaway*
And sorry if I added to it . . . tried to keep my comments somewhat mild . . .
I know better to scroll on these issues with this cast . . . my bad.
Chocolate and merlot might help, but it’s also likely that it’s just as wise to scroll.
and emerging from this thread
Larue keeps his cool!!!!