Foreign Policy’s David Rieff penned a must-read… Save Us from the Liberal Hawks…
Syria’s a tragedy. But it’s not our problem.
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of (humanitarian) war. That, at least, is what much of the U.S. policy elite seems to be pushing for these days in Syria. That many of the “permahawks,” like Fouad Ajami, Max Boot, and Elliott Abrams, who championed the George W. Bush administration’s decision to overthrow Saddam Hussein, are now calling for supporting the uprising against Bashar al-Assad’s dictatorship should come as no surprise to anyone. Nor should similar calls from most of the liberal writers and editors associated with the New Republic magazine come as a shock. They, too, have been remarkably consistent, and the magazine’s current symposium on what needs to be done next in Syria is eerily reminiscent of the one it ran the year after the invasion of Iraq, which tilted so lopsidedly toward justifying the war, though not the way the Bush administration was prosecuting it.
What is surprising, though, is that despite the disaster of Iraq, looming withdrawal in what will amount to defeat in Afghanistan, and, to put it charitably, the ambiguous result of the U.N.-sanctioned, NATO-led, and Qatari-financed intervention that brought down Muammar al-Qaddafi’s regime, is how nearly complete the consensus for strong action has been even among less hawkish liberals, whether what is done takes the form of the United States and its NATO allies arming the Free Syrian Army, opening so-called humanitarian corridors, or encouraging Turkey and a coalition of the willing within the Arab League to do so. British columnist Jonathan Freedland summed up this view when he wrote recently in the Guardian that the West must not “make the people of Homs pay the price for the mistake we made in Baghdad.”…
Funny, I’ve been Crying ‘Havoc’ of late too… (Also see here, and, here)
Here’s a more reasoned approach… Western intervention in Syria won’t work, so what’s to be done to stop the killing?
Stratfor offered up a great analysis of the Syrian Abyss…
…The region’s regimes have been on the defensive due to the rise of political Islamism, growing public disillusionment and the sectarian Sunni-Shiite split, though foreign military intervention has been required to actually topple them, as we saw in Libya. Growing uncertainty in the region and the gradual weakening of these regimes gives jihadists an opportunity to reassert their relevance. Al-Zawahiri’s statement, however, represents a continuation of the central leadership’s inability to do more than issue taped statements from its Pakistani hideouts, much less engage in strategic planning…
…However, given Syria’s strategic location at the crossroads of so many key geopolitical fault lines, the meltdown of the Syrian state could easily result in a regional conflict. Most stakeholders oppose foreign military intervention in Syria for this very reason. Many states are eyeing the strategic goal of weakening Iran geopolitically through the ouster of the Alawite regime in Syria, but even that prospect may not be enough to offset the potential costs.
Jihadists’ Prospects in Syria
With or without foreign intervention, jihadists in the region have ample room for maneuver in Syria. The most significant regional jihadist presence lies across the Syrian border in Iraq. These forces benefited from Damascus’ decision to back Sunni insurgents from 2003 to 2007. The consolidation of Shiite power in Iraq greatly weakened these forces. Now that Syria is unraveling and armed resistance to the regime is shaping up, the jihadist flow is reversing direction, with jihadists now entering Syria from Iraq…
…The level of factionalization among the Syrian rebels works to the advantage of jihadists. Just as Iraq’s Sunni tribal forces, Islamists and Baathists cooperated with the jihadists against U.S troops and the country’s new Shia-dominated security forces, many elements within Syria’s Sunni population would be willing to align with jihadists given the constraints they face in battling the well-armed Alawite-dominated Syrian military.
…Regional stakeholders are reluctant to see foreign military intervention, leaving the option of covert support in the form of supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels. Jihadists can be expected to make use of such covert support as they work to insert themselves in Syria. Even if weapons aren’t intended for jihadists, the increased flow of weapons and training into Syria provide an additional opportunity for jihadists to build on this support by offering more battle-hardened experience to a still disorganized armed resistance.
But while neither the domestic opponents of the Syrian regime nor the international stakeholders have an interest in seeing Syria collapse into sectarian conflict, jihadists want just that. As in Iraq, we could see bombings against Alawites and other non-Sunni groups, including Iranian and Hezbollah targets. This could be extended to attacks in Lebanon in an attempt to stoke a regional sectarian conflict…
As b at Moon of Alabama, had asked awhile back in one of his posts… Would the U.S. leave Denver in the hands of hostile armed religiously extreme revolutionaries?
The Syrians are sooo screwed…!
*gah*



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In case you missed it, Glennzilla’s latest take down in regards to Iran.
http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/
Would the U.S. leave Denver in the hands of hostile armed religiously extreme revolutionaries?
There is a right to defend that hasn’t been recognized.
It’s a good reason for the US to butt out. We have nothing to offer them as we don’t “do”" statesmanship any more, and conflict resolution is an ancient and buried art with the Democrat and Republican Neocons.
Peter Van Buren wrote about this:
I saw a post there at moon of Alabama “The West Should Help Assad”, which has gone over the edge into reactionaryism (Webster Tarpley territory)
We all have a tendency to try to reinforce our world views, and it appears that Nir Rosen is saying some things they don’t want to hear, or not saying the things they do want to hear, and has taken to calling the opposition “The terrorists” (in this post at least). IMVHO that is way to simplistic of a description. The country is too big to know or understand every angle.
Otherwise he has some really interesting and knowledgable posts.
Nir Rosen is has another post up at Al Jazeera, and he says the focus on Jihad is exaggerated, as is the fighters coming in from Iraq.
In the second half of the article, the way he explains Hamas’ positon is just right in my opinion.
The State Department basically one big failure as far as I’m concerned.
It’s too bad they cant just split the territory into multiple states between Sunnis, the Copts, Shia and the even smaller minority Alawites if they cant live together.
crap. CTuttle,can you close my em or i tag at the end of the sentence at the top…and delete this comment?
It’s too bad they cant just split the territory into multiple states between Sunnis, the Copts, Shia and the even smaller minority Alawites if they cant live together.
But, Shek, isn’t/wasn’t that the very same solution for Iraq, Sudan, Yemen, ad nauseum…? Divide and Conquer still doesn’t work…! 8-(
The edit part doesn’t seem to be working right now, Shek…! It’s still a great comment tho…! ;-)
Syria is a mess for so many reasons (sectarian, religious, poor/rich) including US/Chinese/Russian interests.
I have NO answers.
But I like the diary, great overview.
Had not seen Escobar’s piece, so thanks for that update.
YOUR piece, Cry Havoc, I also had not seen and THAT’S a superb piece of work CT . . . thanks for it all.
War with Iran, tho? No way! Still. ;-)
Syria now, is a very delicate proxy piece between US, China and Russia . . . it DOES lead to Iran in some fashions but not to war with Iran.
However, as you and others you cite reveal, the wrong steps in Syria could blow the fucking place up real good.
So, it’s a critical piece, and it’s place as a critical piece has risen incredibly high now . . . .
It’s a major tinderbox waiting to explode for so many reasons I wish someone would make a chart with all the varying factions and how they are all intertwined with and against each other, and who of the Big 3 they are or might be on any given day at any given moment aligned with amongst US/Israel, China, Russia . . .
Rcc’d dude!
BTW CT, you missed the headline chance of a lifetime on this one above.
The Abyss Of Abbas!
;-)
Dang, Abyss of Assad, not Abbas . . . LeSgh . . .
I don’t mean other people or outsiders to split them up, but for them to come to an understanding all by themselves, perhaps with counselors. :)
You might like to read this piece by Diana Johnstone that came in with Jack’s Liberty Underground newsletter:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/13/road-to-damascus-and-on-to-armageddon/
Gotta throw them shitty little ME countries against the wall every so often just to show who’s boss.
That’s an essential piece, insightful as hell, the usual by Diana Johnstone (my bold):
Thanks, CT. Pretty bad stuff going down there, for sure.