The ever intrepid Richard Silverstein published this blockbuster today…
In the past few days, I received an Israeli briefing document outlining Israel’s war plans against Iran. The document was passed to me by a high-level Israeli source who received it from an IDF officer. My source, in fact, wrote to me that normally he would not leak this sort of document, but:
“These are not normal times. I’m afraid Bibi and Barak are dead serious.”
The reason they leaked it is to expose the arguments and plans advanced by the Bibi-Barak two-headed warrior. Neither the IDF leaker, my source, nor virtually any senior military or intelligence officer wants this war. While whoever wrote this briefing paper had use of IDF and intelligence data, I don’t believe the IDF wrote it. It feels more likely it came from the shop of national security advisor Yaakov Amridor, a former general, settler true believer and Bibi confidant. It could also have been produced by Defense Minister Barak, another pro-war booster. {…}
This is Shock and Awe, Israel-style. It is Bibi’s effort to persuade high-level Israeli officials that Israel can prosecute a pure technology war that involves relatively few human beings (Israeli, that is) who may be put in harm’s way, and will certainly cost few lives of IDF personnel.
Bibi’s sleight of hand here involves no mention whatsoever of an Iranian counter-attack against Israel. The presumption must be that the bells and whistles of all those marvelous new weapons systems will decapitate Iran’s war-making ability and render it paralyzed. The likelihood of this actually happening is nearly nil.
Now, I know I’ve mentioned Millennium Challenge, once, twice, or even, thrice before…! So, let’s again revisit the most expensive military exercise…
…The exercise, which ran from July 24 to August 15(2002) and cost $250 million, involved both live exercises and computer simulations. MC02 was meant to be a test of future military “transformation”—a transition toward new technologies that enable network-centric warfare and provide more powerful weaponry and tactics. The simulated combatants were the United States, referred to as “Blue”, and an unknown adversary in the Middle East, “Red”. {…}
Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper, used old methods to evade Blue’s sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World War II light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications.
Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue’s approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue’s fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces’ electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue’s navy was “sunk” by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue’s inability to detect them as well as expected.[1]
At this point, the exercise was suspended, Blue’s ships were “re-floated”, and the rules of engagement were changed…
Aftermath
Due to his criticism regarding the scripted nature of the new exercise, Van Riper resigned his position in the midst of the war game. Van Riper later expressed concern that the war game’s purpose had shifted to reinforce existing doctrine and notions of infallibility within the U.S. military rather than serve as a learning experience.
Van Riper also stated that the war game was rigged so that it appeared to validate the modern, joint-service war-fighting concepts it was supposed to be testing.[4]
Here’s the Beeb’s attempt to smear the messenger… Leaked Israel memo: propaganda or Iran war plan?
Richard Silverstein – the American blogger who says he has been given the text of a memo outlining Israel’s plans for a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities – is clear about what he thinks it is.
He says it came from a senior Israeli politician – a former minister – and he describes it as a “sales pitch”, used by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defence Minister Ehud Barak to try to win round sceptical members of Israel’s divided inner security cabinet.
The text supplied to the BBC is just that – text. {…}
‘Paralyse the regime‘
The document itself is striking in both the scale and scope of the military operation that it proposes.
It also employs a range of technologies, many of which we have known that the Israelis are developing, but this document suggests that they are battle-ready and fully operational.
The leaked text suggests that an Israeli operation would begin with a massive cyber attack against Iran’s infrastructure, to “paralyse the regime and its ability to know what is happening within its borders”.
Ballistic missiles would be fired at Iranian nuclear targets, albeit with conventional non-nuclear warheads. Cruise missiles would be fired from Israeli submarines in the Gulf.
‘Shock and Awe’ on some of that nano-level, genetically-altered, Ziocaine, Babee…!
And, to be sure ya’ll didn’t miss the memo… Israel PM: Possible War with Iran Could Last One Month…! Well, I do suppose Bibi was generous when he factored in an additional week from the 3 week pogram that the Neo/Ziocons had custom designed for Irak…!
In summation, I give ya today’s woeful performance from the bowels of Foggy Bottom…
QUESTION: With the country being destroyed fast and furious in a way or rapidly, during your deliberations with other countries, would it be a good idea, let’s say, to have something akin to the Marshall Plan for the day after, because everybody talks about the day after? Is that something that you can – or you discussed or you have discussed with the rich oil countries in the Gulf?
MS. NULAND: Well, in fact, we are, as an international community, already beginning to look at some of these day-after issues, as the Secretary said when she was in Istanbul. And one of the issues is this question of economic support when a democratic government gets back up on its feet. In fact, we have a preliminary conference beginning tomorrow in Berlin on the potential economic needs of a democratic Syria. Fred Hof will represent us at that conference, and we anticipate that that will lay the groundwork for further work in September.
Syria is not Iraq. It doesn’t have that great, vast natural wealth. And depending on how long this goes on, we are already seeing a lot of the economic underpinnings of Syria’s prosperity at risk from this fighting. So there’s going to have to be a serious rebuilding job that will be Syrian-led obviously, but the international community has to be ready to support, so we’re beginning to think about those things. {…}
QUESTION: So I was intrigued by your statement of fact a few minutes ago where you said Syria is not Iraq; it doesn’t have the great natural wealth that Iraq does. I presume you’re talking about oil, yeah?
MS. NULAND: Yeah. I mean, it has some natural wealth, but it’s not swimming in an ability to –
QUESTION: Would you say that that’s one of the reasons why you’re not doing anything to intervene, because Syria doesn’t have the amount of oil that either Iraq or Libya had?
MS. NULAND: There are no connections between these two things. This is –
QUESTION: So anyone that would –
MS. NULAND: Our –
QUESTION: You yourself brought up the distinction. I just want to make sure that that’s not – that oil is not the reason that you’re not doing anything militarily to help the Syrian people .
MS. NULAND: My point with regard to Iraq was that Syria is a country that in the rebuilding phase is likely to want, need, and request significant international economic support because it doesn’t have the same kind of natural benefits that some of these other –
QUESTION: So all right. From your experience, Iraq didn’t need any help rebuilding?
MS. NULAND: No, of course they did. But they didn’t need – they mostly took loans, they mostly took technical support. They didn’t take straight-out assistance in the same way. So –
QUESTION: So you’re not intending to suggest that going in, militarily intervening in a country with oil is in the U.S. interest, but not intervening in a country that doesn’t have oil isn’t in U.S. interests? That’s not what you mean?
MS. NULAND: There is no connection between those two things. Our decisions about how to support the opposition are based on the litmus test that the Secretary has put out very clearly in Istanbul and which we’ve been saying all along. We want to ensure that what we do to support the opposition actually hastens the day rather than increasing the suffering.
God Help Us All…!
*gah*



44 Comments

I’ll just wait.
*heh* Cynical are we…? ;-)
I really do hope that saner minds do prevail, M’dear…! *g*
Edit: This 20 yr Vet learned early on that no Battle Plan ever survives beyond the LD…! I’m sure gor will agree with me…! ;-)
Not a chance.
Would the neocon sleazeball fold for reelection? Or will he tell the zionist idiots to go to detention hall?
O’Bummer knows how to keep you in suspense.
*heh* Have no fear, comrade…! Report: Obama to Tell Israel US ‘Will Attack Iran by June 2013′ If Diplomacy Fails…
Happy now…? ;-)
Uncredible triangulation, comrade. O’Bummer lives up to expectation.
You know, herr comrade, I’d give my left nut to the ‘WH Press Corpse’, to have one iota of the intestinal fortitude as the ‘furiners’ that pepper Mz. Nuland on a daily basis…! ;-)
But but but according to cmaukonen it IS all about the oil. However it’s Not Syria’s….Israel’s. so perhaps that’s what that nice Ms. Nuland was trying to explain.
I particularly liked this bit:
Now nobody can say that we weren’t warned, those cheapjacks in the Obama administration are going to put the screws on everyone to prop up whatever successor regime emerges with lots and lots of cash.
As to the Silverstein piece. It’s not that either Iran or Israel will “win” Israel’s problem is that ultimately it will lose more. A lot more.
mfi
No I wouldn’t agree with you because as usual you’re being too charitable.
mfi
But, gor, I thought this was the worst offender…
QUESTION: So all right. From your experience, Iraq didn’t need any help rebuilding?
MS. NULAND: No, of course they did. But they didn’t need – they mostly took loans, they mostly took technical support. They didn’t take straight-out assistance in the same way. So –
Are ya kidding me…?
…you’re being too charitable.
*heh* You’ve accused me of that before, gor…! I guess I’ll charitably agree with ya…! ;-)
Sorry CTut, but that poor performance w/ AP’s Matt Lee makes me think that one gets brain damage from being forced to attend those pressers.
*heh* They must, from all that pretzel logic being flouted about…! ;-)
Agreed! And rec’d.
Like most of the shit being spewed involving Israel, this is just a buncha shit. Ya gotta love it, unless you’re prosemitic.
Naturally, you’d cite one of the most rabid Zionists on the net, Randall…! I’d expect no less from ya…! ;-)
Randall, my invitation to you to leave the ranks of drive-by critters and become a contributing commenter at firedoglake remains open.
It appears that Bibi may be Obama’s fig leaf:
We’re all ears, President
Predator DroneNobel Peace Prize.http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2012/3932obama_push_wwiii.html
Remember Israel’s offensive war in Lebanon in 1982. Launched on a flimsy pretext (assassination of the Israeli ambassador in London) it culminated in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres of Palestinians in Beirut by Christian Phalange forces, with Israeli troops turning a blind eye. The architect of this war was Ariel Sharon, the Bibi Netanyahu of the time (though not an ideological Reagn/Thatcherite like Netanyahu). The war was a disaster for all sides, including Israel, whose sense of national solidarity has never fully recovered.
An Iranian attack by Israel would multiply the 1982 Lebanon fiasco many times. Netanyahu has to go.
He’ll require more than a leaf…
there’s no end to that prick
Excellent CTuttle.
Seems like the IDF and Mossad are trying to sandbag Bibi before he does something really stupid. What we know about 2002 is that the US military had some of the leadership and studies to sandbag PNAC but, as Van Riper says, the orders from the top were to go with the official doctrine hell or high water — and no whistleblower or pretend whistleblower leaked the details about the scam diplomacy and rush to war. And no US media would have published it even if it leaked it. Not even to blow it off like the BBC did.
I would not read too much into Nuland’s comments about Syria — yet. It is clear from the photos coming out that there will be a lot infrastructure and economic plant and equipment work to be done when the dusts settles one way or another. And the assistance that the international community provides or not to whichever regime emerges will be critical to restabilizing the country so as to prevent a renewal of civil war or opportunism on the part of Syria’s neighbors and their allies. The follow-up question that was not asked of Nuland is “What strings will the US attach to any post-civil-war aid to Syria?” It is different from Iraq in that someone is thinking about the requirements for post-regime-change or regime-re-establishment aid. The question is whether they are contingency planning aid if Assad comes out reestablishing the regime. Another follow-up question missed in the cynicism about oil.
I’m finished with this speculation. It’s useless. We can’t do anything about it and we don’t know whether any leaked docs are genuine or bogus.
Israel will do what it will do, ditto U.S.
We all know what the outcome will be if Israel bombs Iran.
Blackhawk down in Kandahar.
Where do the Taliban get their stingers?
Where does the Free Syrian Army get theirs? The arms market seems to be awash in shoulder-held anti-aircraft missiles.
FSA is armed & financed by the Evil V and they are streaming across the Turkish border, including inside ambulances, tanks & stingers. The reports on that are all over the place.
I have not seen similar stories about Taliban.
Well, there are probably a few left from the First Afghan War, provided by the CIA. And then there are supplies that the US has stored at various bases, which might get pilfered or even overrun. Finally, there are elements of the Pakstani military and ISI that see the Taliban as the only counter to an Afghanistan more friendly to India than to Pakistan. And the Pakistani military likely has bunches of shoulder-launched antiaircraft missiles.
As for the FSA, photos from Aleppo show every fifth FSA fighter hauling a shoulder-launch anti-aircraft missile (“Stinger” is an early and now obsolete US version). Rebel groups (not necessarily FSA) hold border crossing with Iraq that can be means of shipment from Saudi Arabia. And no telling what is coming in from the arms bazaar of Lebanon.
My guess would be the Taliban are getting them from ISI.
I forgot to mention that I didn’t want to guess, I wanted a source that knew for sure. One can understand wars better if one knows where the weapons are coming from.
Er, no… the Stinger is still the MANPADS deployed with U.S. forces. The current versions are upgraded, of course, but are still the same basic system and are still called Stjnger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
I used stinger as a generic, thus did not capitalize it. It’s easier to type than shoulder-launched-missile.
Coming to think of it, perhaps Scalia is supplying some to the Taliban from his back yard stash.
Don’t I also remember some complicated story from, maybe, Charlie Wilson’s War, about some competing version that was more expensive, but better, or more expensive but worse, but the ISI wanted them? Details no longer available in my brain.
Ray McGovern on RT-tv now:
Caesar (U.S.) has spoken, and the empires satraps overseas must do what the emperor wants.
Ooops wrong thread.
Well, to save time and typing the generic term currently in use for a shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missile is MANPADS:
Man-Portable Air Defense System
We must first know their arguments if we are to disprove them. As far as speculation goes it is very useful to get a group of people with different ideas to spitball ideas around.
Agreed we do know what Israel and America want to do and how they will very likely do it.
But Israel and America’s thinking is focused on victory for political reasons and in politics people lie both to make their case for an idea, and the possibility of defeat.
We speculate to point out holes in their arguments for war, victory and… we even think about how we could be defeated and the results.
For example America has military bases in several Arab Persian Gulf countries so if we attack Iran those countries as our allies are all fair game as are their oil tankers.
While American ships have anti missile defense systems oil super tankers don’t if 10, 20 oil super tankers from various allied Gulf Nations are sunk the price of oil goes sky high.
The Credit Default Swap Market that offers insurance against oil price hikes among other things will take a hit since the banks have no money set aside to pay for their CDS’s.
We need oil for tractors and to transport food Arab Spring was in part because of high food prices.
10 oil tankers go down it won’t just be the Arab nations rebelling.
Given the hugh very mistreated minority guest worker populations in the Arab States well if the arab nations oil tankers go to the bottom of the sea who will pay these workers?
I don’t think the Arabs have enough Arab workers trained to drill their oil run their power, water treatment, sewage etc plants to maintain their society.
On another note I don’t know if the Millennium Challenge or other U.S war games after that factored in Iran has Supersonic Anti Ship Missiles and the West as far as I know has not one SuperSonic missile.
Just how good are our missile defense systems on our ships? If Iran has enough SuperSonic Missiles and they launch them in a swarm our anti missile defense systems won’t be able to cope.
There is a real possibility then that we could lose our entire fleet.
Not in a sneak attack like at Pearl Harbor but when the ship captains knew and were prepared to be in a potential war zone and knew Iran had SuperSonic anti ship missiles.
What happens to America when our leaders face that mistake? My guess the media and the Internet will face instant censorship, we might even get a coup.
I thought those were adult diapers. :-)
But if I use manpads, will anyone understand what I mean?
We’ve been speculating on this one for nearly a decade. I think we’ve washed out the topic.
If you capitalize the term, MANPADS, it will be recognized as an acronym and the reader can google it if they wish.
It is a term in regular use in the military and defense industry, and DHS also uses it profligately to induce orgasms in defense contractors that sell countermeasures for both military and civilian aircraft.
Thanks for the update.
The PTB we know still want to invade Iran if anything our speculation helps keep them from invading Iran because they need public support for a long war. They need a
causi belli like Iran getting nuclear weapons even if its false to start such a war.
They do not need us pointing out that America could lose this war and that gas prices will go up.
If anything our speculation is usefull:) Also as time goes by new information comes up thus new speculation and if anything the information keeps getting worse as far as America attacking Iran even if Iran does not have nukes.
Honest disagreement on tactics eCHAN plus we do need to keep educating new people.
Interesting analysis and scenarios.
As for Iran’s supersonic cruise missiles, is there any guess how many they have available after their successful test? That would determine how realistic the swarming scenario is. The test was in February 2011, 18 months ago. Likely the number they have now would only be used in a situation that the Iranian government considered existential. It would leave too many means of retaliation still available after the destruction of several naval groups in the Persian Gulf. And the US would definitely respond to an attack of that magnitude — and respond with fury. Most likely from Europe and Diego Garcia so as to give Persian Gulf allies some space. No overflight permission required from Diego; European and Turkish overflight permission (and notification of Russia and Ukraine) required for flights from Europe.
I don’t see Iran or the US being that reckless. At least not with the current level of rhetoric.
I don’t see Iran or the US being that reckless. At least not with the current level of rhetoric.
I agree, but it’s Bibi and Barak’s questionable sanity and reckless rhetoric that’s fueling all this, Tarheel…! 8-(
Feel free to educate new people & use your typing fingers. I am not your boss.
Our speculating has NO influence on people who want to bomb Iran. Nor do any of our efforts on any other subject.
Looks like they may be relying on Bibi, the “berserker” to take full responsibilty for the insanity, after all, he’s perfect for the role:
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2012/3932obama_push_wwiii.html
Yep, still pleee-nty of nothing but time for diplomacy to work. Wonder where all that diplomacy will get us?