I truly despise sounding like a broken record, but if I must, I must…!
Today, two of my favorite blogs, outside of the Lake, featured the dire Syria-ousness of the situation…
First, the esteemed Col. Lang featured this excellent Guest Post at SST…
The Assad government is defending the minorities. – Clifford Kirakofe
…The mother superior of a 1500-year-old monastery in Syria warned yesterday during a visit to Australia that the uprising against Bashar al-Assad has been hijacked by foreign Islamist mercenaries, with strong support from Western countries. Mother Agnes-Mariam de la Croix was forced to flee to neighbouring Lebanon in June when she was warned of a plot to abduct her, after she revealed that about 80,000 Christians had been “cleared” by rebel forces from their homes in Homs province. She described on the website of the Greek-Melkite Catholic monastery of St James, the church she rebuilt 18 years ago after discovering it in ruins, how Islamist rebels had gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya in Homs. Then they blew it up with dynamite and attributed the act to the regular army. …. Slowly these groups became identified: some are recruited by and affiliated with al-Qa’ida, some have a Muslim Brotherhood background, some are attached to other Islamist factions. Only about one in 20 of these fighters is Syrian, she said. The rest come from places ranging from Britain to Pakistan, from Chechnya to North Africa. “Many have fought in Iraq, some also in Afghanistan,” Mother Agnes-Mariam said. “Now their cause is being recycled to kill Syrians.” The two million Christians in Syria – which contains the world’s first church – “are sharing Syria’s fate”, she said. “But as a minority, they are more vulnerable. They have no army. They are caught, like the filling in a sandwich.” Her own community of nuns at St James has been mostly trapped in the monastery for 18 months. In the beginning, she said, the uprising embraced values including freedom and democracy. “But it steadily became a violent Islamist expression against a liberal secular society.” She described “a hidden will to empty the Middle East of its Christian presence. We don’t know why. We have always been the peaceful catalyst bringing diverse communities together.” …
Then, b at MOA, put up this excellent post, citing the Col. as well…
An October Surprise That Leads To The Guns Of August
…I can think of some blowhart in Tel Aviv who would like to have Obama defeated and who might have the capabilities to order up some event, a certain “Syrian provocation” that kills many Turks but which’s origin would be rather mysterious, that would allow the Turkish pro-war lobby to achieve its “fait accompli”.
But, The pro-war lobby rallies in Turkey, as Bozkurt writes, a war over Syria would not be confined to Syria. It would have disastrous consequences. As the military Middle East expert Pat Lang remarked:
A “Guns of August’ scenario is quite possible in which Syria, Hizbullah Russia and Iran line up against NATO, Israel and the US. The catastrophic implications of such an evolution are obvious.
Any serious event on the Turkish Syrian border could now be an October surprise to unleash a Guns of August like situation. It is not something anyone in this world should wish for.
Now, I’ve frequently commented that we are indeed facing the same tinderbox that the Archduke Franz Ferdinand’s untimely demise had sparked…! So, I did find it rather ironic that Erdogan should happen to mention Srebrenica, today…
…Erdogan said a system which allowed one or two nations to block intervention in such a grave humanitarian crisis was inherently unjust, and that Syria would go down in history as a U.N. failure much like Bosnia in the 1990s.
“How sad is that the United Nations is as helpless today as it was 20 years ago when it watched the massacre of hundreds of thousands of people in the Balkans, Bosnia and Srebrenica,” Erdogan told the Istanbul conference.
The July 1995 massacre in Srebrenica was the worst on European soil since World War Two, in which Dutch U.N. peacekeepers abandoned what had been designated a U.N. safe haven to advancing Bosnian Serb forces, who then killed 8,000 Muslim men and boys and bulldozed their corpses into pits.
Turkish officials had expressed hope they might be able to persuade Moscow, which sold Syria $1 billion of arms last year, to soften its opposition at the Security Council and that if it succeeded, China would follow suit…
Don’t ya’ll just love that wicked Web of Alliances we’d woven…? I mean seriously, isn’t it just as vile today…? But, I digress…!
Now, lest you were deceived by the monotonous intonation from all the Western PTB’s and Turkish officials, that it’s all kosher, Deustche Welle, exposed that fallacy…
Western spies get discreetly involved in Syria
…Reports of “discreet” action by Western intelligence agencies are not surprising, according to Erich Schmidt-Eenboom, head of the Peace Policy Research Institute.
“The US intelligence agency CIA has been active for months, mainly in Turkey,” he told DW. “The intelligence agencies that brought about the fall of the Gadhafi regime in Libya are now at work in Syria,” Schmidt-Eenboom added.
David Pollock, head of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said he shared that general view, but added that CIA activity there was very limited. American media reported that the CIA has limited itself to observing arms transfers and watching that religious extremists don’t get their hands on missiles and explosives. Arms are mainly being financed by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
“The West supports moderate powers in Syria,” Schmidt-Eenboom said. “Qatar, on the other hand, supports fundamentalist groups.”
The US government has considered providing rebels in Syria with satellite images of Syrian troop movements and supporting them in creating an intelligence agency of their own.
However, it’s unclear whether a decision has been made on either of these possibilities. US President Barack Obama has ordered the CIA to give rebels logistical assistance, and the US has made public its support of $15 million for communications equipment.
“The financial support from the United States is in no way tied to weapons,” Bollock said. “The money is intended exclusively for communications and medical equipment.”
Riiight, and I have a bridge for sale, real cheap even…!
*gah*



36 Comments

somebody may esteem Pat Lang, and everyone deserves to get more love than is merited.
the overthrow of the Assad dictatorship, which came to power in a military coup, has ruled by shedding endless blood in support of the police state it has assembled, is simply a good thing.
Dewd-insky, yer absolutely clueless…! *gah*
nah, Tuttle, not at all, I’m just not a naif.
You’re a nice guy, but need to learn a few things that your co-religionists in Iran have had to learn.
You’re a nice guy, but need to learn a few things that your co-religionists in Iran have had to learn.
Ya know what’s funny about that whole ‘co-religionists’ fallacy in Iran, ya cite, and I’m no fan of Iran and their horrific treatment of the Baha’i's, yet, Israel, itself has shown the very same hostility, with Mt. Carmel, serving as our ‘Universal House of Justice’… So, puh-lease, spare me from yer empty rhetoric…! 8-(
are you freaking serious in saying that Israel shows the same level of hostility to Baha’i as Iran???????
tell me I’m simply reading you incorrectly.
Please.
Are ya kidding me…? My own Nam Vet, Step-Dad, hadn’t seen such overt hatred than what he’d experienced in his Sojourn(Hajj, if ya will) to Mt. Carmel…! 8-(
he was imprisoned in Israel? for how many years?
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good idea,Charles, as you’re too silly not to confuse state persecution with personal prejudice.
aloha.
You betcha, dumbinsky, especially since I’ve got my own Personal Jesus to pillorize…! 8-(
State persecution? Ah, you mean like what was once the secular democracy of Israel has been devolving towards?
Nice work, PW…! ;-)
Oh Tut. I had the great misfortune (maybe not misfortune, as it was enlightening for all the wrong reasons) to have a “discussion” today with a Zionist. I didn’t realize he was of said persuasion until his wife later informed me of all the bling he had bought her, but I digress. Jaysus fuckin’ Christ. This guy is seeing scary Iranians under every rock. He thinks Iran is a threat because they might have spooks in other countries. I was like, and we don’t? And when I mentioned that even if, by chance, Iran had nuclear capabilities, they had no way to use them, as confirmed by Biden a few nights ago, his answer was to walk away saying “and you believe that?”.
And where has the Korean meme come from? He is not the first to mention that Korea is a threat, which leaves me scratchin’ my head.
The best part, a Zionist dentist in Orlando telling me of all the Iraki friends he has and that they ran as fast as they could to the US, as soon as they were given green cards. Yeah, right. I mentioned MFI’s creds and that is when this guy gave up on me.
It was interesting, to say the least.
Recommended, CT. Still waiting for the “October Surprise” to show up. Maybe it will be Jill Stein showing up at 10% in a poll, eh?
…This guy is seeing scary Iranians under every rock.
*heh* Speaking of Rocks…! ;-)
I’m hoping for the 5% needed to get matching funding going forward, but 10% would be very cool.
I have no fuckin’ idea where this guy was getting his facts, but they were so removed from reality to be beyond scary. I think it was the first time ever I’ve run into a true Zionist.
quite right, PW. Israel is rolling downhill….
….. and is still freakin parsecs from the Saudis and Iranians and the goons ruling Gaza.
…… the Twins will beat the Yanks in the post-season before Israel devolves down to the level of the neighbors.
… I think it was the first time ever I’ve run into a true Zionist. That was until, dubinsky, suddenly rolled into town, eh…? ;-)
Not to degrade your diary but:
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Hopefully MFI will roll in with his most astute perspective.
I love that guy.
Charlie, you donkey, I ain’t much of a Zionist, just as you’re not much of an analyst.
… just as you’re not much of an analyst.
Yeppers, my track record has been simply abysmal, dubinsky…!
Just check it out, if ya must…! ;-)
*heh* I do expect one of the GG crew to chime in and scold my naive okole, but, I still won’t lie in my own personal news and views, tuez…! ;-)
I used to track you some time ago, Charles, but something came up.
Last I knew you were starting to help Suzanne with the Late, Late Night gig.
still doing that?
dub doesn’t have time to check this stuff out. dub wants us to do the work for dub. then if you waste your time doing it, dub goes on to the next person to attack, avoids you, or curtly sneers. mixed with the occasional smarmy suck-ep or attempt to get closer.
Thanks for the updates! Recommended. I still think Syria is a ‘bridge too far’ for U.S. imperialism, and a deal of some sort likely will be made. But I’ve been wrong before when I underestimated the stupidity and madness of narrow-minded arrogance loaded with high-tech firepower and nowhere reasonable to use it.
Aloha, fairleft…!
…But I’ve been wrong before when I underestimated the stupidity and madness of narrow-minded arrogance loaded with high-tech firepower and nowhere reasonable to use it…
That would be exactly where I’ve erred in my analysis, fairleft…! 8-(
amen
read 70 and 75…
http://firedoglake.com/2012/10/13/late-late-night-fdl-a-knight-for-a-day/#comments
Yeah, Suz is correct. The name is different (new reg in the last week) but the comment style is quite familiar – classic concern troll
With Bibi and Avi cutting deals with Adelson and the haredim? With Israel media falling apart faster than even the US press?
Uh-huh. Tried the same tricks on me. ;-)
Nice one again CT
Recommended
My jaw is still lying slack upon my desktop…!
Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria…
Are ya absolutely sure about that, Sanger…? ;-)
One source of hope for Israel–the Israeli equivalent of Occupy is proportionately much stronger there than its counterpart in the U.S., with at least one Israeli Occupiers (they don’t call themselves that) planning to run for the Knesset.
At first, the Israeli Occupiers received a friendly receptions, but this year year police have started using brutal police tactics on them (shades of U.S. cities). If Israel becomes an out-an-out capitalist/theocratic state, it will be on the road to destruction, as it has depended on the sense of solidarity of its citizens (Jewish ones, at least).
It is therefore surprising, or maybe not, that Netanyahu and the rest of the Israeli political establishment has opted for the preservation of capitalism in the country rather than looking out for its national interests.