Here’s an example of the ‘spin’ being put on the ‘recent’ discovery of Jihadists amongst the Syrian Rebels… Syria: Rebel Fighters Are Becoming Radicalised…
Sky has seen new evidence that the Syrian uprising is becoming more and more radicalised and being fought by Islamic fundamentalists and extremists.
The Syrian rebels have all but given up on military intervention by the West but after 18 months of grinding battle and a feeling they have been abandoned by the international community, they are making their own bombs and weapons and becoming much more self-sufficient.
There are some weapons and arms being smuggled across the borders from sympathetic Muslim neighbours.
We saw brand new rocket propelled grenade launchers with their rockets still in their plastic wrappers which had been smuggled across the Turkish border and an anti-aircraft gun which the rebels told us had come from Iraq.
But although that means that the rebels have many more weapons than they have had before, it is still small fry in comparison to the heavy weaponry, tanks and artillery employed by the regime.
What is increasingly obvious is the number of Jihad (holy war) flags and Jihad paraphernalia worn and used by the rebel fighters. The black headbands worn by many of the fighters are a symbol of Islamic fundamentalism – used by extremist groups and usually anti-Western.
The common refrain from many of the rebel fighters is that they have been forgotten by the outside world.
A number of commanders told us they were disappointed, angry and frustrated by the lack of help from the international community.
One said: “All we get is words, not actions.”
Y’all should know by now, that I’ve been screaming my head off about the F/UK/US/Arab League promotion of Jihadists in Iraq, Libya, Syria, amongst numerous other places! Afterall,’Divide and Conquer‘ is the primary means to Regime Change…!
Now, one should read all of Madame Shillary’s statement in Zagreb, to get the full impact…
QUESTION: Secretary, if I could ask you about Syria. Mr. Brahimi’s attempt at a ceasefire has evidently failed, and the violence is increasing again. What are your views on what needs to be done now to bring the violence down?
And turning to next week’s opposition conference in Doha, what gives you confidence, if you have any at all, that this could produce the beginnings of a government in waiting where the SNC has failed to do that? And are you sure that your key allies, including Turkey, are ready to swing behind whatever is the outcome of Doha? Thank you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well Andy, those are all very important and timely questions. And I want to start by thanking Croatia for their assistance in dealing with the extremely difficult problems presented by both Syria and Iran.
Look, I sincerely regret, but I, unfortunately, was not surprised by the failure of the latest ceasefire attempt. Despite its reported commitment to the UN Special Envoy, Mr. Brahimi, the Assad regime did not suspend its use of advanced weaponry against the Syrian people for even one day. And the shelling in the suburbs of Damascus was as bad last weekend as at any time in the conflict.
So while we urge Special Envoy Brahimi to do whatever he can in Moscow and Beijing to convince them to change course and support stronger UN action, we cannot and will not wait for that. Instead, our efforts, and those of our partners in the EU and the Arab League, are focused on pressuring the regime through increasing and tightening sanctions, meeting the humanitarian needs of the Syrian people who are displaced, assisting those countries that they seek refuge in, and helping the opposition unite behind a shared, effective strategy that can resist the regime’s violence and begin to provide for a political transition that can demonstrate more clearly than has been possible up until now what the future holds for the Syrian people once the Assad regime is gone.
So we are working very hard with many different elements from the opposition – yes, inside Syria as well as outside Syria. Some of you might remember I hosted a meeting in New York during the UN General Assembly. We facilitated the smuggling-out of a few representatives of the Syrian internal opposition in order for them to explain to the countries gathered why they must be at the table. This cannot be an opposition represented by people who have many good attributes but have, in many instances, not been inside Syria for 20, 30, or 40 years. There has to be a representation of those who are on the frontlines, fighting and dying today to obtain their freedom.
And there needs to be an opposition leadership structure that is dedicated to representing and protecting all Syrians. It is not a secret that many inside Syria are worried about what comes next. They have no love lost for the Assad regime, but they worry, rightly so, about the future. And so there needs to be an opposition that can speak to every segment and every geographic part of Syria. And we also need an opposition that will be on record strongly resisting the efforts by extremists to hijack the Syrian revolution. There are disturbing reports of extremists going into Syria and attempting to take over what has been a legitimate revolution against a repressive regime for their own purposes.
So the Arab League-sponsored meetings, starting in Doha next week, will be an important next step. I have been constantly involved with my counterparts, both in the EU and in the Arab League, in particular with the hosts of the meeting next week in Qatar. We have recommended names and organizations that we believe should be included in any leadership structure. We’ve made it clear that the SNC can no longer be viewed as the visible leader of the opposition. They can be part of a larger opposition, but that opposition must include people from inside Syria and others who have a legitimate voice that needs to be heard. So our efforts are very focused on that right now. Thank you.
MODERATOR: (Via interpreter) This completes the statements for the press. Thank you.
As The Cable is reporting…
Clinton explains State Department efforts to build new Syrian opposition council
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton acknowledged Wednesday that the U.S. government has been working to establish a new council to represent the Syrian opposition, to be unveiled in Qatar at a major conference next week.
The Cable reported Tuesday that the State Department has been heavily involved in setting the stage for the Nov. 7 rollout of a new opposition leadership council, which will subsume the Syrian National Council (SNC), a group of external opposition leaders that the administration has decided is too consumed by infighting and ineffectiveness to represent the Syrian opposition.
U.S. Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford will travel to Qatar for the conference and has been working to craft the new council in a way that better represents a wider array of both internal and external opposition groups. U.S. officials and opposition leaders are calling the initiative the “Riad Seif plan,” named after the former Syrian parliamentarian and dissident who has been active in preparing the new initiative.
“We call it a proto-parliament. One could also think of it as a continental congress,” a senior administration official told The Cable.
Needless to say, it’s going over like a lead balloon…
Syrian opposition figures bristle at new US push to overhaul leadership
Members of Syria’s opposition-in-exile bristled Thursday at the Obama administration’s suggestion that Washington will handpick more representative leaders at a crucial conference in Qatar next week.
The new U.S. push appears aimed at creating a unified leadership that could work more closely with the West. But there are signs of resistance among deeply fractured opposition groups wary of attempts by foreign backers to dictate strategy in the civil war against President Bashar Assad.
“This direct tutelage and these dictates are not acceptable to the Syrian people anymore,” said Zuhair Salem, the London-based spokesman for Syria’s banned Muslim Brotherhood opposition group. The Brotherhood is part of the main political opposition group, the Syrian National Council, which is dominated by exiles…
b at MOA further extrapolated on what a Cluster F*ck we’ve created… U.S. Installs New Political Proxy Opposition…
God help us all…!
*gah*



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Well. That should serve to unite the opposition forces against….US.
When will we learn the lesson that all police forces around the country already know? When intervening in a domestic squabble the usual outcome is that both parties usually turn on the officer trying to break up the fight?
The Syrian opposition is made up of so many factions that we do not understand, nor do we have any way of communicating with, that it is impossible to know with any certainty at all what their agendas truly are. Half of them (or more, who knows) do not want a cease fire, have not been willing to negotiate even with Hassan Nasrullah facilitating, have made no express demands, and have made claims that most of the atrocities attributed to them are actually being committed by Assad’s forces. The complete and total lack of any credible verification of ALL the claims by either side about who is doing what makes the entire situation a gigantic mess.
My personal opinion is that Bashir Assad is a hostage, the country is being run by one or more of his hard-line uncles who never wanted the reforms that Assad tried to do, and that the atrocities claimed by the “Assad” government are being perpetrated by them instead of against them. The many opposition forces have a wide variety of agendas including regime change, the non-negotiation is due to their desire to capture and kill the Assad family, probably including Bashir. None of this suits the Western media narrative, so you won’t hear it anywhere else.
The reason I believe it is that Bashir Assad is a western-educated (Oxford) economist who was pursuing a program of reforms in his country. He did not have the support of his uncles and hardliners in the military and elsewhere, so the reforms were not proceeding as quickly as he had wanted. He had expressed his frustration with the slow pace of those reforms publicly in the press on multiple occasions.
That is why I find it quite difficult to believe that he has transformed into this bloodthirsty killer Idi Amin copy who is mowing his people down in the streets almost overnight. I do believe that his uncles could do this. And that is why all these disingenuous calls for Bashir Assad to ‘step down’ are ridiculous. I believe he is in no position to do anything. If he is not dead already, he is under some kind of confinement by these uncles where he is incommunicado. They are the ones running the show.
The US has thrown him under the tanks and run over him several times – and now we are in the process of doing the same thing to the opposition groups trying to overthrow the real problem people in that beleagured country. Our best thing to do would be at this point to stay out. Do not send arms to anyone. And work with everyone outside Syria to stop any arms from getting to anyone – including the government there.
I’m not sure about “Bashir Assad” or his/her uncles or whatever source you may have for the brilliant, rocket science conspiracy theory you’ve associated with them, but “Bashar al-Assad” is a London trained optometrist not an “Oxford-trained economist,” who seems to have a thrown a goodly portion of the country ruled altogether ruthlessly and under tanks since the early 1970s.
During the time of the family rule they have also managed to throw a goodly number of Palestinians under tanks, too.
One ting’s for sure, the family has some internal issues with which to deal.
Tanks for dis.
My personal opinion is that Bashir Assad is a hostage, the country is being run by one or more of his hard-line uncles who never wanted the reforms that Assad tried to do, and that the atrocities claimed by the “Assad” government are being perpetrated by them instead of against them. The many opposition forces have a wide variety of agendas including regime change, the non-negotiation is due to their desire to capture and kill the Assad family, probably including Bashir. None of this suits the Western media narrative, so you won’t hear it anywhere else.
I would posit an 180 shift in your argument, the Rebellion was primarily from the ‘outside’ all along, think of all our NED/TED endeavors globally, what’s happening is that the ‘Rebels’ are truly getting out of hand… Two notable examples…Syrian rebels arm Palestinians against Assad… And then they’re tangling with the Kurds… Syrian rebels fight unwanted battle with Kurds… They seriously need to be reined in…! 8-(
Expanding it…wow, that should decrease the infighting and ineffectiveness. Judging from the reaction, the likely intent of this gambit was to prevent Moslem Brotherhood domination of a successor government.
You might find this interesting:
Riad Seif Forum
And this:
Damascus Spring (not to be conflated with the 2011 Arab Spring or Arab Awakening)
Is it time to call it Belarus and back off and let the regime (don’t have any illusions that Bashir is more than a figurehead) reassert control?
Who is going to emerge to broker a political solution among the Brothers, wahabists, jihadis, salafis, and the FSA? Isn’t that the huge task to getting the broadened opposition council to work? That doesn’t look like a group that would trust the US to be an honest broker, does it.
I apologize about Bashir (sp) Assad’s education. He is an opthamalogist (MD) educated in London, So you are almost correct on that. However – he has only been President of Syria since 2000.
It was his father, Hafiz Assad you may be speaking of.
That doesn’t look like a group that would trust the US to be an honest broker, does it.
Not at all, Tarheel…! Nor trusting of one another…! It does not bode well, any way you slice it…! 8-(
I agree – once a violent confrontation begins, especially one as messy as this one, all kinds of people come out of the woodwork to use it as cover for even more nefarious purposes. That is why there doesn’t seem to be a ‘central’ authority, or an identifiable agenda, or a spokesperson or anyone willing to negotiate on behalf of the opposition. They aren’t a cohesive group.
It’s then easy for a nasty bunch in the government to exploit the situation as well and turn it into a coup d’etat. Hassan Nasrullah said he had offered to mediate early on, but the people he spoke to turned him down flat and said that they were not interested in discussing anything. Period.
I agree – once a violent confrontation begins, especially one as messy as this one, all kinds of people come out of the woodwork to use it as cover for even more nefarious purposes.
Couldn’t agree more, so what do ya think of this t*rdblossom…?
Israeli Attack on Iran Could Inconvenience US Attack on Iran, Military Warns…
How bloody inconvenient, eh…? 8-(
The Guardian article by Julian Borger that antiwar.org links to has this delightful tidbit:
Maybe a little de-escalation by getting a little freedom and human rights in Bahrain might be in order. Unlikely but it would be a first step toward de-escalation.
*wink* U.S. Decries Bahrain Ban On Public Demonstrations…
‘Unusually Harsh Terms’, even…! ;-)
Wow — a source in the region? That’s powerful. A source commenting on what the Gulf States fear. Impressive.
Actually polls indicate that the Arab PEOPLE in the Middle East fear the US and Israel, which have nukes, and not Iran, which doesn’t.
Oh yeah, how bloody inconvenient. I am so sick of all this saber-rattling against Iran – a country that hasn’t attacked anybody for over 1,000 years. OTOH, the US and Israel combined have been nearly at constant war with anyone and everyone for nearly their entire existance. Give me a break!
15 of our intelligence agencies said Iran is not building a bomb. Israels own Defense minister said they are not building a bomb. So both we and Israel need to STFU!
That’s what I think.
Thank you, CTuttle. I saw a BS headline over at Huffpost; ” U.S. warns Israel about preemptive strike on Iran” and had this stupid fucking pot-smoker moment of hope that common sense had prevailed.
It turned out that the U.S. wanted control of the strike.
A truly sad situation, eh, open…? 8-(
Now, Don Bacon had posted this Al Jazeera blog post that gives rise to some hope…
Clinton’s statements slammed as ‘astounding’ by SNC
Speaking to Al Jazeera’s Darren Jordon, Louay Safia, member of the Syrian National Council, called recent comments by Hillary Clinton, US secretary of state, regarding the SNC “an astounding statement”.
Though Safia admits the largely foreign-based opposition group has under-performed in some areas, he said “the secretrary will have to take some credit for that”.
In response to Clinton’s fears of “extremist” groups taking hold in the Syrian opposition, Safia says such groups are everywhere, but “in Syria they are very marginal”.
Safia then went on to criticse US policy in Syria saying Washington is currently working on a deal with Moscow and that the Obama administration “would like to have quiet in Syria”, even if that means Bashar al-Assad, Syrian president, retains some level of power.
That would be an awesome positive development, if it’s true…! But, I’m just not detecting any sort of rhetoric to back up that shift in policy…! 8-(
The problem I’m having is that I know I’m a certified “intelligent” child of the American Education system.
I can make no sense of what’s happening in the ME, especially Syria. Except the Resource Grab. And probably it’s that simple.
My heart goes out to the ME people because I know they’re being played. I don’t understand it all. It’s like knowing there’s an ominous shadow game being played in your presence, with your money, but you can’t see it.
Thank you for shining a light on it, CTuttle. Or I’d be clueless!!!!!!!!!
It’s even more of a mess than we thought.
US backs away from Syrian National Council
There is no unity at all in the situation.
Looks like we can see the interests starkly outlined here. But missing a statement about what Saudi Arabia and Qatar are doing.
Add to one of CTuttles greatest hits- collaborative edition.
Madame Clinton is only a year and half behind the truth.
This is rich. The revolutionaries Mdm. Shillary and Ambassador Robert Ford, hijacked the real revolution a year and a half ago, along with Qatar (Al Jazeera) and SA. The Sinister Robert Ford engineered this disaster.
Even still, to her only the Assad regime is capable of violence, even if it is a response from the refusal of the FSA to stop bombing on Eid. Iraqis are going to Syria to fight, and protect mosques from destruction by salafists.
That’s kind of funny in an ironic way about the I̶N̶C̶ N̶T̶C̶ SNC infighting. It shows their weakness as the actual fighters and the Syrian people refuse to recognize them.
Probably because of stuff like this:
Syrian National Council and their antics
Also, the Shillary and Ford revolutionary forces attacked the Kurds a few days ago, and they were repelled.
http://www.vice.com/read/meet-the-ypg