McClatchy expands on the new Tahrir Square protests…
Egyptians fill Tahrir Square in largest protest of President Mohammed Morsi
Tens of thousands of protesters poured into Tahrir Square on Tuesday night to contest what they believe is Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi’s illegal declaration that his decisions are exempt from judicial oversight, marking the largest protests ever against the newly elected president.
It was not clear Tuesday night whether the chants of thousands calling for a second revolution would lead Morsi to rescind, modify or wait out opponents to his 5-day-old constitutional declaration. Instead, it appeared the crowds, notably absent of the Islamists who are Morsi’s base, simply reflected an increasingly polarized electorate. Indeed, many who were protesting Tuesday said they boycotted the election that led to Morsi’s presidency or voted for his rival.
If Morsi sticks to his declaration, the feud over who has the final say over the nation’s judicial matters will come to a head Sunday when the courts are expected to make three key rulings. The courts will determine whether Morsi acted legally when he changed the temporary constitution in July to end military rule – leading to the firing of Field Marshall Mohammed Tantawi, the head of the ruling military council – and giving Morsi final say over military matters, the first time a civilian has had such power in Egypt’s modern history; whether the assembly charged with crafting a permanent constitution is legal, since it was elected by the now-defunct Parliament, which the courts earlier ruled was illegally constituted; and whether the Shura Council, the upper house of Parliament, should be dissolved.
If the courts rule against Morsi, it remains unclear whether Morsi’s decree or the judicial rulings would prevail – or who will decide that. In the meantime, several judges have suspended their work in protest…
Meanwhile… 150 Egyptians injured in nationwide clashes…
Moving along to Ehud Barack’s announced ‘Retirement,’ ex-AIPAC employee, MJ Rosenberg says good riddance…
He, more than anyone else, destroyed the peace process. He was elected in 1999 on a Labor Party peace platform, arguing that the incumbent prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, had destroyed chances for peace. He promised to reach a deal with the Palestinians who welcomed his election along with an ecstatic Israeli peace camp.
But following the election he immediately set out to humiliate the Palestinians, ignoring Yasir Arafat’s pleas to start talking and instead pretended to focus on reaching a deal with Syria so he could end run the Palestinians. He kept them waiting for six months, a strategy designed to strengthen his hand against them…
In 2000, he decided to push for an all-or-nothing agreement. Arafat said no, that it was too soon, especially given the good will that Barak had frittered away. Clinton agreed with Arafat that first Barak needed to lived up to the agreements Israel had already signed. (Clinton has publicly regretted being duped by Barak)
But Barak insisted on a summit. Israelis, Palestinians and Americans commenced negotiations at Camp David in July where Barak refused even to talk to Arafat directly. He famously treated Arafat as some indigenous local chief while he was a head of state.
Barak put some ideas on the table, all in the spirit of take-it-or-leave-it. Barak and the Dennis Ross-led American “peace team” coordinated every step of negotiations which were essentially a gang-up. Arafat, who had said from the get-go that he could not reach a deal until Israel lived up to its previous agreements, refused to accept Barak’s offers which, in any case, never came close to meeting Arafat’s demand for a state in 22% of historic Palestine.
Following negotiations, Barak announced that he had “torn the mask” off the face of the Palestinians. Although negotiations continued, Barak was now in the business of demonizing them. By the time he made the Palestinians a decent offer, it was too late. Trust had been destroyed…
While Barak’s policies were no worse than Sharon or Netanyahu, he is the only one who was elected to achieve peace on the Labor ticket. In my view, he is then worse than either of them.
Now he leaves, bodies strewn everywhere…
Expanding further, Peter MacKay’s “atrocities across the Middle East”
Israel as a colonial settler state.
The current state of Israel, supported unequivocally by Canada and the U.S. is a similar colonial settler state, representing the ‘empire’ of the west – mostly the EU, the U.S., and Canada… {…}
With the false promise of the UN Partition Plan in 1947, objected to by the Palestinians as it gave away most of their land to the much smaller Jewish population, the Israeli forces set in motion their military actions of ethnic cleansing and genocide. Well before their declaration of independence, they began destroying and moving Palestinian residents from their villages in 1947. When the British mandate ended in 1948, the Israelis declared their independence and began a second wave of military actions, this time compounded by the ineffective intervention of much weaker Arab army units.
Since then the settler-colonialist mentality has been in full force. The Palestinians live under different rules of law, in both the West Bank and the pre 1967 Israeli boundaries. In the West Bank, the Palestinians live under military law, subject to change at moments notice and a soldier’s whim. After 1967, with the success of the pre-emptive war against Egyptian forces that expanded into assaults on Jordanian held West Bank and the Golan Heights of Syria, the military rule and settler colonialization of the West Bank and Gaza came into full force.
Land annexations and expropriations using antiquated laws and newly created military zone laws slowly crept over the West Bank and Gaza. The settler-colonialist elements were and are aided by many supportive grants from the government of Israel, which in turn is supported by many western countries, notably the U.S. and Canada, with both military and economic aid. Combinations of land take-overs, military rules, imprisonment, torture, and assassination of Palestinians are used to control the population… {…}
The “peace negotiations”, the “road maps to peace” have all been subterfuges under which the Israeli government has simply stalled for time while the settlements have continued building unabated. The “Palestine Papers” as revealed by al-Jazeera demonstrate that the Palestinians bent over back ward, much too far according to most, in order to secure a land settlement for two states.
Using the same tactics as the empires of the ‘new’ world, the Israelis are creating their own zone of control over the resources and people of the region. With their military strength (but not necessarily military prowess) they dominate the region acting both as puppets of U.S. interests and even more so as manipulators of U.S. interests…
Just to be sure, lets revisit one of my old posts; US State Dept: Israel’s “Principal Human Rights Problems Were Institutional, Legal, And Societal Discrimination.” To Wit:
2010 Human Rights Report: Israel and the occupied territories
…Principal human rights problems were institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against Arab citizens, Palestinian residents of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (see annex), non-Orthodox Jews, and other religious groups; societal discrimination against persons with disabilities; and societal discrimination and domestic violence against women, particularly in Bedouin society. While trafficking in persons for the purpose of prostitution decreased in recent years, trafficking for the purpose of labor remained a serious problem, as did abuse of foreign workers and societal discrimination and incitement against asylum seekers.
Now, moving along to Syria…
Syria ‘names 142 foreign jihadists who fought with rebels’
The Syrian government has named 142 foreign jihadists that it reportedly says were killed fighting alongside rebels in the country’s civil war…
Damascus-based newspaper Al-Watan on Tuesday published a list that it said the Syrian government had sent to the United Nations Security Council last month giving the names and the dates and locations where the “terrorists” were killed.
“Most are jihadists (radical Islamists) who belong to al-Qaeda’s network, or who joined it after arriving in Syria,” the paper said, adding that they entered Syria via Turkey and Lebanon.
Among the 142 it named 47 Saudis, 24 Libyans, 11 Afghans, 10 Tunisians, nine Egyptians, six Qataris and five Lebanese.
The government is thought to have asked for the list be registered as an official document on the UN’s agenda of “measures to combat international terrorism”.
Meanwhile, the UN has been busy…
UN condemns Syria, Iran for rampant rights abuses
A UN General Assembly committee has condemned Syria and Iran for widespread human rights abuses, but both Damascus and Tehran dismissed the separate votes as politically motivated.
The draft resolution on Syria, which was co-sponsored by Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United States, Britain, France and other Arab and Western states, received 132 votes in favour – 10 more than a similar resolution last year received – along with 12 against and 35 abstentions.
The resolution on Iran, which was drafted by Canada and co-sponsored by other Western countries, received 83 votes in favour, 31 against and 68 abstentions.
The increased number of yes votes for both resolutions shows waning support for Tehran and Damascus in New York, envoys said.
Both resolutions were passed by the 193-nation assembly’s Third Committee, which focuses on human rights, and will be put to formal votes next month at plenary sessions of the General Assembly. They are both expected to pass with similar margins.
Syrian UN Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari dismissed the resolution against his country as an attempt by “Western states to interfere, and we condemn this.”
He also accused Qatar, which has supported the rebels seeking to toppled Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the 20-month-old insurgency, of aiding and abetting Israel against the Palestinians.
Ja’afari repeated Syria’s oft-stated accusation that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Libya and Turkey have been arming and financially supporting the rebels, an allegation all have denied.
Western diplomats in New York, however, say privately that the Saudis and Qataris are almost certainly aiding the rebels, and possibly other countries as well.
Iranian Ambassador Mohammad Khazaee dismissed the resolution against Tehran as based on unconfirmed allegations and an attempt to meddle in the internal affairs of Iran.
Speaking of Iran, as Marcy had quipped on Jim White’s excellent post; ‘How considerate of the Iranians to label their secret nefarious nuke graph in English!’ Graph suggests Iran working on bomb… Funny how that was a similar gripe that Gareth Porter had raised about the Iranian Nuke Laptop…
Anyways, needless to say… Senate works on new package of Iran sanctions…
As the dynamic duo, Hillary and Flynt Leverett wrote recently…
President Obama’s pending reshuffle of his national security team is an occasion to ask hard questions about American foreign policy. Most immediately, as Hillary told Al Jazeera’s Inside Story last week, click on video above or to link here, Obama’s nomination of his next Secretary of State—whether that is Susan Rice or someone else—provides an opening to ask pressing questions about the Obama administration’s increasing proclivity for proxy warfare against problematic Middle Eastern governments. Above all, “Did the United States arm, fund, train, and support—either directly or through our so-called ‘allies’—the very people who killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and the other Americans who did with him?” But Obama’s most outspoken GOP critics on the issue—e.g., Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham—can’t ask those questions, “because [they’re] complicit in this policy.” (To see Hillary’s segment, go 7:38 into the video above.)
Of course, it remains to be seen whether McCain, Graham, and their Republican colleagues stick to their guns regarding Rice’s acceptability as a nominee for Secretary of State. But the significance of Obama’s apparent interest in nominating her goes beyond the “who’s up/who’s down” of Washington politics or Obama’s proclivity to declare consequential policy positions without having thought through how to implement them. It raises more fundamental questions about the direction of American foreign policy and grand strategy in Obama’s second term. As Hillary explains,
“Whether you are a conservative or a neoliberal interventionist—I would put Susan Rice in that category—each of these camps supports armed, military intervention by the United States in the internal affairs of other countries. They do it for slightly different reasons, but the main strategic purpose is for the United States to pursue dominance…
…As to what to expect from Obama on foreign policy in his second term, Hillary says that “the evidence, so far, is for more of the same.” Certainly there is no reason to anticipate much change in Washington’s approach to the Middle East…
Same-oh, same-oh, just ain’t cutting it, Folks…!
*gah*



31 Comments

Excellent roundup of what’s going on in the ME, CTuttle. Thoughtful analyses–we do need more of those. Many thanks for this.
Mahalo, fatster…! I do try to highlight what’s really going on…! *g*
Charles, thanks, some matters arising:
• If the Egyptian courts rule that the military junta Morsi overthrew was legal there’ll be hell to pay. Particularly as so many of the were appointed either by Mubarak or the said junta.
• This point can’t be made often enough. Trying to say that Barak is in some way a “moderate” or in some way less bad that Sharon, or Nethanyahu, or Lieberman. Is like trying to say that you can choose between Samuel Bowers, David Wayne Hull, or Virgil Lee Griffin as to which of them was the least viciously thuggish leader of the Ku Klux Klan.
• As to the article by George Jahn it’s by no means the first time that Jahn whose the AP bureau chief in Vienna has pulled this stunt. It’s his standard modus operandi he runs an “exclusive” which is generally culled from a report put out by the IAEA and then stitches an article together using lots of innuendo “proving” that Iran is actively engaged in a successful nuclear weapons program. He lards these articles with quotes from diplomats who, oh so conveniently for Jahn and his agenda demand anonymity because they are not competent to comment upon the information member countries make available to the IAEA.
If that doesn’t work he outright lies AP Exclusive: Alleged Iran nuke site being watched | CNS News:
And yes making stuff up is telling lies unfortunately for Associated Press bureau chief George Jahn his lies such as the one I’ve quoted above are easily disproved. Thus this report from Reuters:
No sign of nuke work at suspect Iran site-diplomats | GulfNews.com:
and this report from the IAEA itself (which you can access in PDF form at the link):
Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement in the Islamic Republic of Iran Report by the Director General
mfi
PS: Recommended
mfi
Mahalo, Gor…! Some excellent points you raise…! *g*
Jim and Marcy, totally eviscerated Jahn and Co…! ;-)
They did? Hey ho, if I’d known that I’d have just linked to them and saved myself the typing.
mfi
But we like your typing!
Pulling another all-night, Mark?
*heh* As Jim asked… Where Are the Dirt Photos? We Must Have Dirt Photos!
Nope, I always rise early. :-).
mfi
Typical male, diurnal creature! Whereas I, like most women, am nocturnal, almost too much so to function. Gotta pry myself from the ‘puter and get to bed!
‘Night, all!
*heh* So because most males, being ‘early birds’ rule the roost, M’dear…? ;-)
Sweet dreams, PW…! *g*
You quote MJ Rosenberg:
That was over 12 years ago. Have things changed?
sorry – link to the above quote from Ynet today.
It is now up to about 100,000 in Tahrir Square.
Have things changed? At the margins yes, but the goal is as always to grind the Palestinians into the dust for example:
Read in full: Britain ready to back Palestinian statehood at UN | World news | guardian.co.uk
mfi
But, Hamas and the West Bank, have united, and are holding Abu Mazen’s feet to the fire, on the ICC, etc…! Whether or not it comes to fruition does depend solely on Abu Mazen, so we shall see, mfi…!
As you say we’ll see. Every time previously he’s caved in and obediently done what the Israelis told him to. Maybe he won’t this time, it’s conceivable that there really is a first time for everything.
mfi
Events of the last few days leave the impression the Hillary Clinton flew into the Middle East with orders from Obama: Barak is fired, and since Mursi helped with the truce, he is promoted to Pharaoh. (That is why the Ruler’s powers were left ambiguous when the Constitution was written, months ago.
CT: Hey ho, is that your new nickname?
Someone’s gettin’ their material from The Onion again..
morkfromIreland:
The comments on Jahn’s article are priceless. ;)
The AP has banned the use of the words Homophobia and Islamophobia and the term ethnic cleansing should be used in scare quotes. (not an onion story either)
Re: Morsi, this piece by Eric Wahlberg at Counterpunch intrigued me, and I think echoed at least a bit of what THD has been saying. We may know after the four months are over if Morsi has intended to further the revolution and not stop it in its tracks. I dunno that I subscribe to what the author says about Obomba and Clinton, but that’s a small quibble all in all.
Thanks, mfi and CTut. Been busy so appreciate you keeping ups with this.
My hunch is that the Egyptian judiciary will split the difference in its decisions. Ratify civilian control of military and not seek to review the Constituent Assembly. But will assert that Morsi does not have unlimited powers of decree during the period between the revolution and the consideration of the new constitution. My hunch is based on the presumption that they will with take the path that is most likely to preserve their jobs — at least for a while.
About Syria, now that it has gone on so long I have no doubt a lot of mean nasty critters have shown up for an opportunity–and no doubt the regime has tried to hire at least a few of them as mercs.
About Susan Rice. US foreign policy is not primarily driven by the philosophies of key individuals except as they reflect the domestic drivers of foreign policy. Right now my sense is that the public does not want another war anywhere, kinda like the 1920s–burned out on war. That mood will restrain somewhat any interests seeking war for their own commercial advantage. And the deficit/debt fever also puts downward pressure on defense expenditures. To my mind it doesn’t matter whether you put in Susan Rice, John Kerry, or even Dennis Kucinich as Secretary of State, the policy (repeat policy) will remain the same; you might see a slight moderation in actions. Enough to get the GOP doing their “weak on defense” song and dance. Had Romney won, there would be a different set of domestic drivers that would have allowed the old PNAC gang to think of new adventures.
Personally, I think Susan Rice would be good as CIA Director or DNI. After this to-do with Graham and McCain on Benghazi, she could put the new EO on whistleblowing to good effect. Another good move would IMO be Panetta to DNI. Having understood the CIA budget and the DoD budget, he might have a chance of understanding the whole intelligence community budgets. There are a lot of opportunities for money to flow down ratholes in that system. But these are just my quirky thoughts. Another one: Susan Rice to Secretary of Defense; McCain’s apoplexy would be worth a ticket.
Muslim Brotherhood has been tool of the Anglo-American empire for its full 80+ years.
Forgot where I picked that up, so sorry no link.
With all due respect to you ecahn – bullshit.
mfi
Yes it’s about the policies – which don’t vary from party to party other than at the margin.
Syria: Some very nasty people indeed are involved. One of the things that I’m getting from contacts in Syria is that the level of eliminationist rhetoric has gone from almost non-existent to almost omnipresent and very strident. Entirely predictable and will lengthen what is now a very bitterly fought civil war.
mfi
How is the eliminationist rhetoric splitting out, other than pro-anti the regime?
It’s ethnic and sect eliminationism. Hardly surprising when you consider whose funding the rebels. I wouldn’t want to be a Syrian Alawite*, Shi’i, or Christian if the rebels win. Athough it’s the Alawites who believe with good reason that they’re facing extermination if the rebels win.
I wouldn’t want to be a Syrian Kurd no matter who wins. (The people who spray paint الجمهورية العربية السورية (Syrian Arab Republic) in Kurdish areas are sending a message clearly understood by everyone). For that matter I wouldn’t want to be a rebel if the Ba’ath win. The Ba’ath aren’t even slightly shy about using torture or engaging in large scale punitive actions if they feel those are warranted.
mfi
*The Alawites are the subject of particular bitterness – both because they’re the bedrock upon which the Assads built and because their version of Islam is so heterodox that it’s a considerable stretch to call them Muslims. If there’s one thing the As-Salafiya al-Ilmiya (Salafist scholars and preachers) hate it’s heterodoxy which is why the Alawites are particular targets for the Al-Salafiya Al-Harakiya (Salafist activists) and Al-Salafiya Al-Jihadiya (warrior Salafists). In the “guides” we study sermon transcripts and reports for a reason :-)
m
Those break down geographically as well, don’t they. So you have entire regions or setllements or urban neighborhoods that will be targets regardless of which faction becomes dominant.
Are the Kurdish areas likely to split off with support from the Peshmerga, PKK, or both? Or are ethnic groups too intermingled even in the Kurdish majority areas?
Yes. Which is why, for example, fighters from Shi’i groups in Irak have been travelling to Damascus. They’re not taking part in the wider hostilities they’re protecting particular mosques and neighbourhoods.
The Kurdish areas are tougher to call. They’re not getting much help from the Peshmerga (by which I mean the official militias controlled by the Kurdish Regional Government in Irak) or the PKK. That’s largely a function of the Pesh (and now the PKK as well) being involved in a very tense stand-off with Baghdad. So far it’s just been skirmishes. I’m not sure if the Syrian Kurds will split off or even try to. Geography is against them they don’t have an easily defensible heartland unlike the Iraki Kurds or the Turkish Kurds or the Iranian Kurds. As against that there’s a sudden upwelling of Kurdish nationalism and cultural resurgence that could well carry all before it. ( And It’s worth remembering that Kurdish negotiations with the rebels foundered on precisely the fact that the rebels insisted that the العربية (Arabic) part of الجمهورية العربية السورية (Syrian Arabic Republic) was there to stay and was non-negotiable).
mfi
So the Syrian portion of a potential Kurdistan is likely not to happen, which will likely mean Arab cleansing of Kurds from that part of Syria, likely putting pressure on both Iraq and Turkey as refugees increase from Syria.
I think that that’s the most likely scenario as things stand right now. I just don’t see a Syrian Turkish enclave being viable. (Nor do I foresee a Kurdish state incorporating territory from Irak, Iran, Syria and Turkey).
All of this is subject to change so for example a breakaway Syrian Kurdish state/enclave could be declared if the Syrian Kurds felt they had no alternative to going it alone, or more accurately that the alternative to going it alone was savage repression by whoever wins the Syrian civil war. It’s just that I think that’s a bit unlikely at present.
mfi
Mahalo, Gor, for your great input…!