OK. I guess technically the title is not true. If folks hadn’t been laid off and collected Unemployment Compensation, the funds would just be sitting in the various state coffers, unused. But the unemployed are not the reason the economy tanked; the unemployed are not the ones sending jobs overseas; the unemployed are not the ultimate root cause of the problem.
Michigan started things back in March but has since been followed by Missouri and now Florida. (Other states may have done so as well, these three are the ones I know for sure have done this.) Florida’s new law actually goes beyond Michigan and Missouri, as bad as their laws are. Where MI and MO cut the maximum period for collecting state level unemployment compensation from 26 weeks to 20 weeks, Florida ties the benefits to the overall state unemployment rate. Via the Tampa Tribune article linked above:
TALLAHASSEE — Out-of-work Floridians would receive fewer state benefits while businesses pay less tax under a controversial proposal approved Friday by a divided Legislature.The deal, which Gov. Rick Scott is expected to sign into law, immediately cuts unemployment benefits by 11.5 percent.
Jobless Floridians would continue to receive a maximum payment of $275 per week, among the lowest of any state in the country. But they would be paid for no more than 23 weeks, instead of 26.
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The bill also creates a sliding scale that cuts and adds weeks of benefits based on the unemployment rate. Unemployment compensation would drop to as low as 12 weeks if the average unemployment rate drops to 5 percent or lower. A week would be added for every 0.5 percent the jobless rate climbs.
I can guarantee you that the newly unemployed person is not going to give two shits to know that the overall state unemployment rate is X percent so the number of weeks of benefits are limited accordingly. All that newly unemployed person is going to see is s/he is out of work and the state supplied safety net is full of gaping holes. Annie Lowrey at Slate on Friday offered this analysis:
In March, Michigan became the first state to take an axe to its standard unemployment benefits, even though the state boasts one of the worst labor markets in the nation. The Republican government cut the number of state-sponsored, initial weeks from 26 to 20, effective in January. It said the state simply could not afford them: It owes the federal government $3.9 billion, borrowed to pay past unemployment benefits, and just cannot go further into the red. (Michigan and 48 other states have mandatory balanced-budget rules.)For all the other states cutting back, the issue is inaction, rather than fiscal pressure. Some states needed to make a certain simple legislative fix to ensure that the federal government kept on kicking in its share of weeks of benefits—weeks of benefits already budgeted and paid for in Washington. A number of states failed to do so. So, on April 16, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Wisconsin all lost 20 weeks of federal benefits, effective immediately. Missouri did on April 2 as well.
On top of that, this week, House Republicans introduced a bill that effectively encourages states to whittle back their unemployment insurance systems. The legislation—written by Rep. Dave Camp (Mich.), the head of the Ways and Means Committee—gives states the option of using federal unemployment-benefit dollars for other job creation programs. (“Job creation” is defined broadly, so that repaying federal loans or providing tax breaks to businesses counts.) If some states, perhaps following Michigan’s example, cut benefits and use federal dollars to repay loans rather than provide weeks of aid, it could take billions from jobless Americans’ pockets.
The first time I was ever laid off from a job, the HR manager explained that the last thing a business wants to do is lay people off. The more layoffs there are, the higher taxes the business has to pay in the future. At least, that’s the way it once was. I guess nowadays, all the businesses have to do is whine to the politicians about how they can’t afford to pay any taxes (even as the corporations are booking record profits) and the politicians cut the taxes. Legalized bribery.
Reuters of course has a report that the so-called Gang of Six may yet have a budget deal at a time when the economy is not remotely close to strong. From the Reuters article:
The Obama administration and Congress are desperately searching for a bipartisan deficit-reduction deal. Getting one would clear the way for critical legislation to increase the government’s borrowing authority.Washington’s failure to increase the $14.3 trillion U.S. debt limit would put the government on the cataclysmic path to a first-ever default on its debt obligations in early August.
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Without reform, entitlements — the huge federal retirement and healthcare benefit programs, including Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid — are on track to escalate government debt inexorably as the U.S. population ages.
I wonder how many times people need to be told that the “entitlement” programs are not the actual root cause of the problem? There’s a chart at Pew Charitable Trusts shows that things like billions of dollars in tax cuts, unfunded wars, and long term un and underemployment just might be more of a root problem in the economy than the ‘entitlement programs.”
But I guess we shouldn’t worry. New DNC chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz says:
“We’ve been pretty laser-focused on the economy,” she said. “The president and the Democrats in Congress have been talking about creating jobs and turning the economy around. and that’s where we have been in terms of our agenda. We’ve been focused in a laser-like way in getting the economy turned around and at the same time going after the most significant priority that we’ve had in terms of going after terrorism, and that’s been bringing Osama bin Laden finally to justice.”Democrats and Republicans have been sparring on a host of economic issues, including the federal budget deficit and raising the debt ceiling. Democrats have called for ending tax subsidies for oil companies, and while GOP leaders have said they are open to discussing the issue, they also oppose tax increases.
It might be nice if they’d all quit talking about creating jobs and turning the economy around and actually do something. Note to Rep Wasserman-Schultz: continue talking about the federal deficit if you must but doing something now would be at the expense of doing something for the un and underemployed. And creating decent jobs for the long term un and underemployed just might help that “deficit problem” more than the “Gang of Six” ever could.
And because I can:
Cross posted from Just A Small Town Country Boy



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The first time I ever collected unemployment it lasted six months. The next time, it was cut to four months, and I was informed that the cause for cutting it was that unemployed workers wouldn’t look for jobs if they were getting a way to support themselves without working. The fact that the amount of unemployment wouldn’t quite pay the rent and feed some one out of work just didn’t make the equation for the PTB in Texas. Social support systems are against the right wing ideology, and it doesn’t matter what the facts are, the right will fight against even living wages for working people.
Yeah, the weekly benefits haven’t actually improved all that much over the years. This link has the current maximum for each state although the maximum number of weeks showing is for both state level benefits and the various federal extensions.
The federal extensions have literally been a lifesaver.
Rick Scott just makes my blood boil. He was on the news last night equating slashing the education budget with job creation. Huh? And now he’s “looking into” the Sunrail system, which means that’s not going to happen anymore than the high speed rail.
I just hope he gets indicted for something and soon, as apparently some of the things he’s done thus far are illegal, as in the way he handled selling the state’s planes. Of course he generously “loaned” his plane to the state but guess who’s paying for its maintenance and upkeep? It ain’t Rick Scott.
That was kind of the basis for this post back in February Is Cutting Jobs Programs to Create Jobs Like Cutting Taxes to Increase Revenues
But the slashing of education gives an excuse to say the future workers aren’t worthy of good paying jobs since they won’t be all that smart.
Of course, current Floridians aren’t all that smart since he was elected, much to the dismay of many residents (including myself)
I’ve gotten a couple mass emails from Bill Nelson recently asking for help pushing back against Rick Scott. I don’t recall anybody at the federal level asking for action against state level politics in the past. I don’t know if you’ve gotten them too, but I thought it was interesting.
I haven’t gotten any of those type emails but that’s probably because I changed email addresses a while back and haven’t been providing it to Dem politicians since.
Although, somehow, AARP has gotten hold of it, so I get their stuff a few times a week.
After 17 years in his job, my brother was laid off, in a field devastated by this Recession: long-term unemployment has, at least, qualified him for (government-sponsored) retraining in a field that is still hiring.
But this is in Florida, so he can’t get a straight answer whether or not his unemployment benefits will cover that retraining — what he’s supposed to eat, or how he’s supposed to pay the mortgage, when they run out is apparently not Rick Scott’s concern, either.
My husband is laid off too. Where does one find info on retraining? The fact that we live in Florida aside. He’s got some ideas on the direction(s) he might want to take but none of it is cheap.
The only reason they still have my email is because Alan Grayson occasionally sends emails via the DCCC. I’ve told the rest of the dem organizations what they can do with their worthless selves.
Tampa area parks and lots without construction are beginning to house some folks – with the expected increase in law breaking by folks that see no other alternative. It is not that many – but then there were near zero folks 10 years ago.
The GOP keep seeking that “free market” magic of Ayn Rand – and a lot of folks have been hurt, and more will be hurt, as they wait for that magic Indeed like Chicago monetary theory, the facts will be fitted to the theory – for Chicago/Friedman there is a delay in the effect of any given type of monetary action on the economy that varies in length for reasons we do not know – and so it is with free market magic as any upturn will be due to “free market” – not gov – action – and indeed the paper on this may get a Nobel! :-)
Let’s not lose sight of the fact that Republicans won in 2010 because Democrats stunk, Democrats in office and Democrats running for office. I had to hold my nose to vote for Jon Corzine in NJ, clueless as he is. You can’t beat something with nothing, as the saying goes, and voters are ping ponging between one party and the other as each election reveals yet another crop of wiffle-brained idiots. It’s painful to say it, but too often only the worst and the dumbest even stand for office. Honestly, with all the concern over athletes brain injuries, isn’t it suspicious that politicians haven’t been studied? What’s the story there?
Can he get in touch directly with an appropriate school and ask about available plans/scholarships, from their funds or from business sponsors?
amen.
deecee and wallstreet and two big sources of the people who are responsible… for the 40 years of neoliberal policies (pursued by both parties) that have contributed to bringing us where we are today.
Let’s see, the FUTA is really only 0.8 percent of the first 7,000 in wages per year. Although nominally the max is 6.2 percent subject to state tax credit. So during the boom years the states were cutting back on the unemployment tax they asked employers to pay.
Now they just want to keep the tax cut and cut the benefits.
Everyone playing from the same music sheet.
A lot of voters today hate smart, informed people running for office. They want someone as dumb as they are.
Yep.
Actually it looks like Florida is cutting the tax even further than it was.
The federal government opened this door by tying the final tier of benefits to the unemployment rate by state, (it has to be 8.5% or over for the state to be eligible). Now maybe the states would have done it anyway and maybe they wouldn’t have but these individual states are taking their cues from the federal government. They tied benefits to the unemployment rate, they threw the long term unemployed under the bus to pay for tax breaks for the rich. I’m blaming Obama and the Vichycrats. Both of those things happened under their watch.
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Unfortunately, what my husband is interested in is too specialized for a typical scholarship, etc. I even doubt if government sponsored retraining would cover it but it’s worth a try. For instance, he has a degree in art and has looked into painting prosthetics to look real (ears and noses are real popular)but that’s not taught at the local community college. He also does welding and is considering becoming a certified inspector but, again, it’s highly specialized. He feels he could probably take a lot of the certification test cold but there are areas he knows nothing about, like reading x-rays and scans of welds. That too is not taught in very many places.
Regular extended benefits have had an unemployment trigger since as long as I can recall – at least back to the mid 70′s. The “Emergency Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2008″ – the final tier you mention – has a similar trigger.
BYW – it would be nice if the USA unemployment benefits were- as in other countries – distributed by trade/labor unions, an arrangement known as the Ghent system. Doubt the GOP would agree to that :-)
Thank you for another great article, dakine01. Any belief that unemployment is ‘all that’ is just false.
Also, the idea that people on unemployment refuse to look for work is absolutely false. In fact, when my husband received unemployment, he was required to document, in writing and in face-to-face meetings, that he was, in fact, looking or he would have stopped receiving unemployment. This false belief is insulting and misinformed, sort of like the urban legend that welfare queens drive Cadillacs (sp).
Recommended.
Regarding Debbie’s comment about focusing a laser on the economy, she should read Harry Hopkins speech about dealing with economic disaster.
“I have signed my name to about $6,000,000,000 in the last three and a half years. None of it has stuck to the fingers of our administrators. You might think some of it has been wasted. If it has been wasted it was in the interest of the unemployed. You might say we have made mistakes. I haven’t a thing to apologize for about our so-called mistakes. If we have made mistakes we have made them in the interests of the people that were broke.”
http://web.mit.edu/course/21/21h.102/www/Primary%20source%20collections/The%20New%20Deal/Hopkins,%20Speech%20on%20federal%20relief.htm
AS My conservative pals say the reason the unemployed are out of work is because well,they don’t have a job. DOH!
With the continuation of corporations getting richer with higher profits and CEO’s making more money then ever including banksters and Wall Street, they, with the help of their cronies that are representing them in Congress and in governmor’s offices continue to economically assault the middle and lower classes with the draconian congressional bills that show no mercy to working class people throughout the United States. Unless we, the economical middle and lower working class take matters into own hands by taking our concerns to the streets with massive demonstrations and the like, nothing will get done. We see that leaving it up to democrats in Congress and the administration has done nothing in the way of help. We the people need to come together in a united front to get any relief and move forward economically.
There were two seminal moments during 2010 about unemployment but the one that sticks in my craw just a little more than the other is the Rose Garden Speech. Coming up on a year since the POTUS walked 4 unemployed people to the RG to stand by his side while he gave a modest overview of the “silent crisis.”
Now, the woman to his left was a youngish African-American mother from No Carolina who had exhausted her benefits. A 99er. Mr Obama got to her story last – irony or coincidence? – and stated that “she deserves the same considerations and assistance that these other folks need.” Exhibits A-C were one newly unemployed, one unable to find meaningful work and on benefits, and one who was in need of an extension. Ms. D was flat-out flattened and needed resuscitation. Nothing happened, of course, because everybody was running for re-election or watching the tpotty steamroll the elections. We blinked, we got creamed.
On Hardball two weeks ago, CM was babbling about that the President is saying to his “base” to MAKE HIM do what we want done. Like he doesn’t know? How do I make him do something? I’ve got to chain myself to the WH fence and get dragged away to jail and court? I’m not 18, I’m 60. I took my lumps and bruises in the 60′s. My last check for UI was 15 months ago. I worked 44 years. My employers paid the taxes required. I never bitched.
Forests have been sacrificed on a daily basis (to my knowledge) to the government’s fax machines and post office. Phone bills have sky-rocketed with his “base” calling government pleading, demanding, and begging for help. 99ers, like me, were the first victims of TGR. How DOES this man NOT know we need help yesterday? Just the basics, sir, that’s all. Food, a little gas or fare cash, a phone, maybe some heat or clean clothes.