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So here we are, coming to the end of another month with limited economic growth. Friday (August 26), the Commerce Department downgraded the second quarter US Gross Domestic Product (GDP) from 1.3% as initially reported to 1%. Via Reuters:
The rate of growth between April and June was cut from the government’s first reading of 1.3 percent and followed a lethargic 0.4 percent pace in the first three months of 2011.
This means the economy grew only 0.7 percent in the first half of the year. Nonetheless, and despite a sharp fall in consumer confidence this month, economists do not believe the economy will fall back into recession.
Note for those with short memories – the first quarter GDP was initially reported at 1.8%, upped to 1.9% with some fanfare before being downgraded to .4%. That seems to be a bit of a trend these past few weeks and months where the various economic indicators get revised in a negative direction (negative that is in relation to what would be good news). For example, when the Initial Unemployment Claims for last week came out on Thursday, the previous week’s claims were revised upwards (via CNN):
The number of first-time filers for unemployment benefits rose to 417,000 in the week ending Aug. 20, the Labor Department said Thursday. That’s up 5,000 from a revised 412,000 the prior week.
The original report for the previous week was at 408K so the upwards revision was 4K. Since the business reporters like to latch onto a factoid or two to try to explain things, they’ve all seemingly latched onto the point that some striking Verizon workers had filed claims. But the number provided was 8.5K which means even without the Verizon worker claims (which will most likely be denied as strikers are rarely allowed to collect unemployment), it would still have the initial claims at 408.5K. From the previously linked CNN article:
In most states, workers on strike are not eligible for unemployment benefits. And the weekly initial claims number merely reflects applications for the benefits — not all of which will be approved and paid out.
Today (Sunday, August 28), Bloomberg has an article on their survey of economists for the August jobs and economic numbers. Given the propensity for the economists to claim “surprise” when their predictions are way off, I’m not sure how much credence to give them, but at least the numbers do seem to reflect a bit more of the realities facing those millions of us among the long term un and underemployed:
Sustained increases of around 150,000 a month are needed to bring unemployment down about half a percentage point over a year, according to Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. in New York. “200,000 is the speed the economy needs to really cut into the jobless rate,” he said.
Through July, the economy had recovered about 1.94 million of the 8.75 million jobs lost as a result of the 18-month recession that ended in June 2009.
Over two years into the “recovery” and less than a quarter of the lost jobs from the Great Recession have been returned.
So while Christine Lagarde cautions political leaders against too much belt tightening, we see House Majority Leader Eric Cantor proclaiming that any hurricane or earthquake relief funds must be offset by other spending cuts.
Michele Bachmann shows her economic pandering bona fides by declaring that she can fix that economy in one quarter:
Representative Michele Bachmann promised Saturday that as president she would turn things around within one economic quarter, in part by cutting corporate taxes and eliminating capital gains and inheritance taxes. Painting President Obama as doggedly antibusiness, Mrs. Bachmann asked, “Why in the world wouldn’t we do what we know works to create jobs in this country?”
…snip…
But on Saturday she ventured into less familiar territory, pointing to the example of Ireland: “There are over 600 American companies that have gone to Ireland because of the tax rate,” she said. “Over 100,000 jobs. I want those 100,000 jobs back in the United States.”
…snip…
She called for a tax holiday for American companies on profits earned abroad, saying it is “the easiest thing the president could do, and he could do it today.”
“American companies have sitting in the bank over a trillion dollars,” Mrs. Bachmann said. “If we had a zero rate of repatriation, by the afternoon that trillion dollars would be back in the United States. Do you have any idea of how many jobs would be created?”
The idea of a tax holiday, which corporations have been lobbying for in Congress, is controversial. A nonpartisan study found that during a tax holiday in 2005, companies spent most of their savings to pay dividends to shareholders and to buy back stock, not for investments or new jobs.
For a so-called fiscal conservative, Bachmann’s proposals sure do seem to be of a nature that would starve the government of revenue with no corresponding increases in jobs. For the record, the Bush/Obama tax cuts and tax rates have now been in place for ten years, leading to one of the worst job creation records ever. Maybe Rep. Bachmann needs to go back for some remedial vocabulary work as her definition of “…what we know works…” is not matched by reality.
But hey! Tony Hayward has his life back so it’s all good, right?
And because I can:
Cross posted from Just A Small Town Country Boy



22 Comments

I’m pretty sure this is the most stupid thing I have ever read on the economy. Can anyone remember anything dumber?
Well, there is Hoover’s “Prosperity is just around the corner” or McCain’s (and others’) “The fundamentals of our economy are strong/sound” but yeah, she is definitely in the running to the bottom.
Crikey!
Bachman and Hayward were not the ones who wrecked the US economy.
Is it just me or does every government report on the economy is either right or later revised downward there is never a revision up?
Does anyone have any idea how long this has been going on?
She called for a tax holiday for American companies on profits earned abroad, saying it is “the easiest thing the president could do, and he could do it today.”
“American companies have sitting in the bank over a trillion dollars,” Mrs. Bachmann said. “If we had a zero rate of repatriation, by the afternoon that trillion dollars would be back in the United States. Do you have any idea of how many jobs would be created?”
Bush did this didn’t he a tax holiday how many jobs did he bring back that were offshored?
The original purpose of the legislation was to repeal a $5 billion annual tax break provided to American exporters that was ruled illegal by the Geneva-based World Trade Organization.
“I signed a bill that’s going to help our manufacturers — that will save $77 billion over the next 10 years for the manufacturing sector of America,” Bush said. “That will help keep jobs here.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6307293/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/bush-quietly-signs-corporate-tax-cut-bill/
George W. Bush: Worst record of job creation-ever
blogs.wsj.com — The Bush administration created about three million jobs (net) over its eight years, a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration and only slightly better than President George H.W. Bush did in his four years in office. Feb 23, 2009
http://digg.com/news/story/George_W_Bush_Worst_record_of_job_creation_ever
Does Michelle really really want to run withBush’s economic job creation plan?
The thing about all these “official” declarations and indices and charts and graphs is……….they’re bullshit. The unemployment rate(s) have been fudged to look better, far better now, than reality so the incumbents appear better, far better now, than they are; the economic numbers are phony baloney; the cost of living index doesn’t include food and energy. In fact, over the years the COL index has been fiddled several times to appear better than reality. Some guy, whose name escapes me, follows and figures unemployment on his own research and he puts it currently at 22 point something percent. It’s all in the service of concealment and staying in office. Reported without comment or caveat by almost all the reporters of such and freely available to any grifter who wants to advance his/her personal cause.
Question will Michelle end tax breaks for companies that outsource jobs? If she won’t then whats to stop corporations from moving there money to America and then moving their money out of America again?
If Michelle won’t end tax breaks for outsourcing jobs her *cough * Jobs plan can’t work and is to Obviously a scam to fool voters.
America is considered a tax haven for tax evaders from other countries. I was surprised to hear that, in a panel discussion of tax evasion as an international issue, but there you are. The others are Netherlands, London, and I can’t remember the last two. Imagine that, the US as a tax haven for non-US tax cheats.
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force
16.8 16.4 16.3 16.5 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1
NOTE: Persons marginally attached to the labor force are those who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for work. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule. Updated population controls are introduced annually with the release of January data.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
Sorry the chart won’t work but U-6 numbers show 16.1 % unemployment.
I think Eric Cantor’s idea of taking the earthquake repairs out of other government expenditures is a great idea. Let’s take it out of his salary, and then out of the salaries of the other members of his caucus. Once we have finished with all the members of the Republican Caucus, if there is anything else to repair, find anyone else who has signed Grover Norquist’s pledge and take it out of their salary. Then begin with all discretionary funds allocated to all projects sponsored by members who have signed the Grover Norquist pledge. Then the matching funds of anyone who has signed the pledge. Then any franking privileges of the same group. Then their phone service, their health care, and their spending funds and office allotments.
Interesting and Michelle wants us to compete with the other tax havens money in banks someone should tell Michelle can be invested in other countries.
If I were GM I would move my money here assuming Michelle got her way then buy stock in my Chinese car maker partner ussing the American bank to buy the stock and I would still be keeping my money in America…kinda.
Its funny a blogger knows this but not a tax attorney like Michelle. Either Michelle is in on it or she is stupid with her its hard to tell.
Cantor cut our SS and Medicare it only seems fair that Congress should have to pay for free market private insurance because its the best in the world?/s
Yes, I’ve seen that. But the man I (vaguely) referenced doesn’t agree. And he does his own research, altho he does make use of the U3/U6 numbers as a point of departure.
Dear god, you’re not proposing that the taxpayers’ 70 something percent subsidy be cut off?! I think it’s 73 percent. (It probably tracks the Medicare percentage.) Anyway, blasphemy. The very idea!
Actually, let’s just start a movement, called, “Ask Grover for it!”
If the Republicans want anything at all, from a new weapon, to a new prison, to an earmark, to a highway in their town to a sweetheart deal with an Israeli R&D firm, to a golf game in Scotland, we just tell them, “Ask Grover for it!” Send all the bills to Grover Norquist. He thinks he’s a better deal than the government, so let him pay for all of it.
You’re unemployed and haven’t eaten in a restaurant for a while? Send a postcard to Grover and Ask Grover for it! Ask him for a little something to pay for that meal. He runs the country better than the government could, so he must know how you can get a meal at a restaurant at least once or twice a depression.
Need money to start a company and put some people to work? Ask Grover for it! The possibilities are endless. Fill that motherfucker’s email and snail mail box with requests that he provide the services of the government he’s been crippling and he knows so much about running from all those times he’s been elected. Maybe even give him a call.
Street blocks were longer in Hoover’s day. Now, we’re in a recovery, don’cha know.
:) Yes I am! If the dems had a Spine they would use this idea.
Here you go.
http://usawatchdog.com/unemployment-rate-flying-blind/
http://nunezreport.blogspot.com/2011/04/unemployment-spikes-to-22.html
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
It’s really a matter of who you believe, but I don’t believe government numbers because of the underlying agenda. It’s not that the people doing the numbers are dishonest or incompetent, it’s that they have their marching orders and they need their jobs like everybody else.
Oh, but that would cut their subsidies. Now, now.
Trickle down economics is as Orwellian as anything in 1984 – either the novel or the zenith of Reagan’s Morning in America restoration of American imperialism.