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Today’s report of Initial Unemployment Claims from last week is out and once again, the economists are “surprised” at the figures reported (via Reuters):
The number of Americans filing new claims for state unemployment aid rose unexpectedly to 428,000 in the week ended September 10 from a revised 417,000 in the prior week, the Labor Department said.
It was the second straight weekly increase and took initial claims to their highest level since the week ended June 25. Wall Street analysts expected a modest dip in new claims.
Once again, that is an upwards revision from the previously reported figure. I’m feeling a tad too lazy to go back through all my blog posts to find the last week when there wasn’t an upwards revision from the previous week’s report but I know that it has been months since there has been anything but upward revisions. At best there might have been a week when the numbers reported were not revised at all a couple of months ago but that’s it.
Realistically, I have to admit that the continual ‘surprise’ by the economists is just a continuation of the overall cluelessness shown by the financial elites as evidenced by this yesterday from the World Bank head (also via Reuters):
World Bank President Robert Zoellick said on Wednesday the world had entered a new economic danger zone and Europe, Japan and the United States all needed to make hard decisions to avoid dragging down the global economy.
…snip…
Zoellick’s speech focused on the shifting global landscape in which emerging market economies are playing a greater role in the world economy — and increasingly in development.
He said developed countries had yet to fully recognize these global shifts were underway and still operated under a “do what I say, not what I do” policy. They preached fiscal discipline but failed to rein in their own budgets, and advocated debt sustainability yet their own debts were at record highs, he said.
While I can applaud a recognition of the role of developing nations in the global economy, Zoellick’s prescription seems to this ol’ country boy to be a prescription for hastening and worsening a global recession. This contrasts to IMF Director Christine Lagarde:
She said global growth was slowing, with advanced economies facing an “anemic and bumpy recovery.” In contrast, emerging economies faced overheating pressures with rising inflation, strong credit growth and expanding current account deficits.
Lagarde said timid economic growth and weak public balance sheets in developed nations were feeding negatively on each other, fueling a crisis of confidence and restraining demand, investment and employment.
While there are fears and articles concerning a possible global recession, all that the continual calls for austerity do is make that global recession more likely.
Here in the US, we have the so-called “Super Committee” leaders claiming that they need to come up with budget cuts in order for inside the beltway village idiots politicians to:
…cast their mission as crucial — not just for the nation’s finances, but for their constituents’ faith in government.
Yeah, that’s the ticket. I’m sure that at a time of increased poverty:
1. The nation’s poverty rate rose to 15.1% in 2010, its highest level since 1993. In 2009, 14.3% of people in America were living in poverty. (The government defines the poverty line as income of $22,314 a year for a family of four and $11,139 for an individual.)
2. For middle-class families, income fell in 2010. The median household income was $49,445, down slightly from $49,777 the year before.
3. Median income has changed very little over the last 30 years. Adjusted for inflation, the middle-income family only earned 11% more in 2010 than they did in 1980, while the richest 5% in America saw their incomes surge 42%.
4. The poverty rate for children under age 18 increased to 22% in 2010, meaning more than 1 in 5 children in America are living in poverty.
that further cuts is just the thing to make everything all better again and all the politicians to be respected. Earth to Beltway Villagers: without that government spending you’re trying to cut, the poverty rate would have been far worse than it already is:
Unemployment insurance helped keep 3.2 million Americans out of poverty in 2010, according to new statistics released Tuesday.
…snip…
Federal health programs, including Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, also helped hundreds of thousands of youngsters stay insured even though their parents lost employer-based coverage. Some 570,000 fewer children were uninsured in 2010 than in 2007, before the recession began.
…snip…
Roughly one in six Americans are on government aid, with the largest two programs being Medicaid and food stamps.
But federal and state budget crunches are swiftly chipping away at these safety nets. At least six states cut back on the number of weeks that the jobless can collect state unemployment insurance. Some states have reduced the generosity of their Earned Income Tax Credit, while Michigan recently limited the amount of time the poor can collect cash welfare benefits.
Do they all become pod people when they go to DeeCee or is there just something about being an elected official that turns once (possibly) reasonable people into the worst type of concern troll (definition 2)?
And because I can:
Cross posted from Just A Small Town Country Boy by Richard Taylor



29 Comments

Part of the job interview entails their demonstrating that look of startled surprise.
If you can’t be ‘surprised’ at the drop of a hat, and do it without blushing, you won’t get the job.
Thank you, dakine.
When I read that initial sentence [claims rose "unexpectedly"], i thought of you and had the same reaction: how many times can you be “surprised” before you start questioning the assumptions that lead you to conclusions/projections that are consistently wrong?
They do, but only momentarily. I’ll never forget my stupid optimism in October of 2008 when Alan Greenspan did his mea culpa and called for imposing some of the same sorts of regulations on mortgage securities he resisted when he was in office, acknowledging that the current financial crisis had exposed “a flaw” in his view of how the world and markets function. [The absence of significant controls on how mortgages are repackaged into larger and more complex securities has been cited as a central cause of the current financial crisis.]
THEN LESS THAN THREE MONTHS LATER GREENSPAN WAS BACK AT IT.
Greenspan’s mea culpas regarding the failed conservative economic ideology that he not only followed but advocated for millions did not apparently prevent him from continuing to take advantage of Americans in other ways. In January of 2009 he joined the Paulson (no relation to Henry) Hedge Fund.
not that I consider Greenspan an “economist”, but he was the financial wizard of Oz on whose shoulders much of the financial demise of the USA rests and Bernanke is no better. Both, like Obama, are Goldman Sachs shills.
The biggest problem for me is the more they are wrong, the better they seem to get paid.
Time to invest in Botox futures: these surprised economists are the poison needles’ next new frontier, smoothing out their up-eyebrowed wrinkles.
Howdy dakine01. Is there anything positive in the Prezisnt’s jobs bill. Dean Baker hints that there are CETA like wage subsidies hidden in the undeciperable bill. What do you think? Forgive me if you have already posed on this and I missed it. Thanks
While I have not read the entire bill and dissected it at all, from the news reports I think there are some good pieces in there, not least of those being closing some tax loopholes for the rich to pay for it. But it still seems to rely too much I think on things like extending already existing tax cuts and such.
Considering that they’re “surprised” every single week, maybe it’s time for them to find new jobs rather than new models and assumptions. It’s past time for those like dakine01 to get paid to do their job for them.
I had extensive contact with a former Fed economist. It was the simplest of projects and the person was entirely incapable of running anything let alone a lemonade stand. I have no idea how they did their former job unless it was an occasional paper regurgitating Greenspan talking points. Otherwise, the staffers had to have handled everything because the person could only delegate. So, they enjoyed a cushy six figure job with international travel and nice hotels, a nice long tenure, then was allowed to retire. WTF.
You beat me to it. These people need to look into a new line of work.
hey dakine! good to hear from you again. missed you. (maybe those surprised economists are just lying and attempting to cover themselves with a fig leaf that don’t stretch near far enough.)
Thanks! I’m pretty much always lurking around – just don’t write all the time as it gets old sometimes saying the same thing day after day after day
Economists are frequently employed to support particular interests – the surprise then is that we pay attention to their pronouncements instead of their professions of surprise. When one of these bought “experts” makes a prediction, first ask who benefits?
Folks who foresee nothing are always surprised.
Of course the economists are surprised when the projections fail, here’s why:
1. Economics is no science. None of the theories or models are testable.
2. Economists want to stay employed. A large component of their forecasts is to keep their food coupons arriving at the end of the month.
3. They tell their bosses what their bosses want to hear. See (2).
4. What we all know is that having too many customers, empty shelves or not time left in the appointment book, causes bosses to hire. Nothing else.
5. “Management” currently do not believe (4), because they don’t like the implications (They have to pay more taxes and extract less rent from their companies for their personal use).
6. Don’t blame the economists, they are just trying to keep their jobs. Blame their bosses with their fixed preconceived notions (aka: denial) that are at fault.
7. The voters in the last 3 special elections have got the solution right (correct): Throw the incumbents out.
8. Trouble is, there is only a supply of like minded drones for whom one can vote.
9. The voters also know that repeating the same actions and expecting a different result does not work — but see 8.
That’s why civilizations fall.
My Advice: Migrate.
Surprise just means we aren’t trying hard enough, gotta double down on whatever the failed policy.
Maybe we should teach them that surprise should be saved for personal events, like surprise birthday party, surprise pregnancy, and surprise win.
If only there were a way to show them for the clowns they are, maybe they wouldn’t be such welcome advisers.
More Tax Cuts for the rich are surely on the way. Everyone knows that That Cuts for the Rich Create Jobs. Concurrently, Max Baucus(R – mega-powerful Iowa) – he who jammed up health care reform – is crunching the numbers to gut Social Security and Medicare.
Kent Conrad. too.
Ther art work ,”It’s time to rethink everything” would make a great bumper sticker or poster…
You asked if there was something in the water in DC that made them all think alike. It happens everywhere. How many “socialist” parties meekly bit the austerity apple in Europe? Every one. The only way Iceland escaped, is that apparently the people were able to step in and stop it.
I’m think it really is pod people.
Ah, dakine, ’tis rather like the melting of the polar ice caps …
The “experts” always expertly express exceptional surprise at the “rate” of melting-down.
And no expert, in any field, seems able to grasp the notion of a “pattern”.
Or of accelerating “consequence”.
However, as other commenters have suggested, “competence”, now, in virtually every profession, is soley about NOT understanding, about being able to steeple one’s fingers while tapping one’s lower lip with the index fingers, and about, after proper rumination, possesing the capacity to intone, in appropriate stentorian fashion, so that the dummies in the rear can hear, “Who could have imagined?”.
DW
Either these secular priests, these economic Experts are of no value to the vast majority of citizens in their inability to produce something beneficial and worthy of their pay and esteem, or they are liars. Who else could so consistently be so wrong and at the same time always surprised? If is the latter, they are at best irrelevant and at worst pariahs.
“Economics sprouted from the same intellectual roots as weather forecasting–rarely accurate but devoid of memory, thus cheerful about being wrong. When economists began to confuse the well-being of humans with the proving of theories (for example, the market-place is always right or private enterprise is evil), they may actually have become a destructive force resembling maddened weathermen, who call upon the population to fight their way through a hurricane in order to reach the eye of calm at the centre.
This manic phenomenon can be identified by the rise of untempered optimism or pessimism and is characterized by the repetition of religious formulae. Thus “the debt must be repaid” or “the recession is over” will be chanted in the way priests once repeated”the devil must be defeated” or “Christ is risen,” by which they meant “You will all rise from the dead.”"
–John Ralston Saul, “The Doubter’s Companion”
Economist such as Greenspan, Bernanke and the slew of others at the Federal Reserve and investment institutions have become the modern day version of the Magi, that advise the ruling class. These modern day illusionist and fortune tellers are no better than the ones who used the movement of the stars and planets to predict the fortunes of empires.
Capitalism is failing.
Our capitalistic notion of our society/economy refutes cooperation. The myth of competition is the best form of allocating scarce resources is ingrained in us sometime after childhood. Even as our environment deteriorates to the point where it won’t be surprising that you will see people walking around with small tanks of oxygen to breath clean air as we do today to buy a bottle of clean water at a convenience store .
The market is a cynical religion.
Not all economists are alike. The media and the government like to select their own economists to spout their agenda. The economists I have been reading for the last couple of years: Paul Krugman, Joe Stiglitz, Michael Hudson, Rodger Mitchell, Karl Smith, Simon Johnson, James Kwak, Jamie Galbraith, Richard Wolff have all predicted higher unemployment, greater levels of poverty, slow growth, greater gaps in wealth as a result of government paralysis and bad policy. They have been correct and ignored. It is not surprising, but it is terribly depressing. With the Goldman Sachs team running the economy, one should expect corporate profits to increase at the expense of the middle and lower classes. Obama has asked for almost nothing and got it.
spot on comment.
Greenspan is like J Edgar Hoover – incompetent that the right claimed was indispensable – and the Dems feared the right.
Indeed National Security Advisor on 9/11 and later U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed surprise that we were attacked by Osama via airplanes – despite warnings of attacks via planes – and warnings to most of the higher gov and the wealthier rich CEO’s to not fly from July on.
Faking surprise is like finding that you, a “liberal Dem”, must “reluctantly” sign away the FDR safety net to save the nation – as you stop the Clinton tax rates from returning via a “reform” of the tax code.
Sadly Reagan was the last President with even a tiny bit of acting of ability – of late these folks, and their subordinates, can’t pull it off.
Great title!
1. The people running the financial services industry are smart.
2. Markets don’t need regulation because individual actors are rational.
3. There will be no bailouts for those loosing individuals.
September 2008
1. The people running the financial services industry don’t have a clue.
2. Individual actors are not rational.
3. $14 trillion immediately appears to secure the wealth of the American elite.
Although proven wrong, economist hold to their failed theories which proves that they are human – they do not act rationally.
Their models serve their bosses and their own career goals. Everyone else can STFU.