Let me get this straight. The Senate will pass a public option if the House will. And the House will, because it already did. But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi won’t allow it. So the mortal enemy of public-option backers is . . . Dennis Kucinich.
Why? Because when Congressman Kucinich said he’d stand for a public option he stupidly thought he was supposed to mean it.
Let’s review a brief history of the disease known as "health insurance reform."
When the president and the speaker of the House thought it would be strategic to censor any talk of single-payer healthcare, almost every member of Congress and almost every astroturfing party-before-country activist group and labor union, and almost every follower of those groups, fell obediently into line. "We’ll open the debate with the least we’ll settle for, a pathetic token public-option," they thought cleverly, rubbing their hands together. "Then we’ll compromise down from there."
But after demanding the "public option," too many people refused to toss it overboard, and public pressure grew to keep it in. So 60 congress members signed a letter to the speaker last summer insisting that they would not settle for a health insurance bill that lacked a serious public option. When they were presented with a bill that did not meet their demands, almost all of them voted for it anyway.
Now 51 senators say they will pass a bill including a super-pathetic token public option of the sort passed by the House last summer, but Pelosi wants to pass a bill without anything even called a "public option" in it. Almost all of the congressional public-option stalwarts want to go along with the speaker and the president. And almost all of the astroturfing party-before-country activist groups want to fall obediently into line.
Meanwhile several states are moving single-payer healthcare bills through their legislatures, but they face likely lawsuits from insurance companies over conflicts with federal law if they try to actually get their residents healthcare. Senator Bernie Sanders is advertising the Senate bill as solving this problem, routinely failing to mention that his solution, if it is one, does not kick in for seven years. But an amendment passed in a House committee last summer would have clearly and unequivocally taken care of states’ concerns. The president told the speaker to strip that amendment out of the bill, and almost no members of Congress complained when she did so.
Where does Dennis Kucinich fit into this story? He’s the reason the word "almost" appears in it so many times. He didn’t open negotiations by proposing the lowest he’d accept. He pushed for a real single-payer solution. He single-handedly framed the public option as a compromise rather than a communist plot. Kucinich signed the letter committing to take a stand for at least a public option. But he made the mistake of thinking people actually wanted him to mean it. So he took that lonely stand. And he introduced and passed the amendment that would have allowed states to provide their residents with a serious healthcare solution.
Now, all the astroturfers applauded and encouraged taking a stand for a public option when there were 60 congress members pretending to do it, without apparently giving any thought to how greatly weakened progressives would be in Congress if they didn’t follow through. Did they think the chance that a bluff might work was worth damaging all future campaigns? Did they disbelieve all their own talk about how the bill would be worthless without the "public option." It’s hard to know. The so-called public option had shrunk to such a token gesture that it was always hard to know what good they imagined it would do if included. And today they talk about passing a bill without even that token included, and passing it "for political reasons," usually avoiding the question of whether the bill is actually better or worse than nothing.
But suppose that you honestly thought the public option was worth at least pretending to take a stand for, and now you no longer do, but you think the remaining bill does more good than harm. Why would you have no complaint with Pelosi who could put the "public option" back in and pass the bill? Why would you have no complaint with congress members who oppose the bill on the grounds that it protects abortion rights? Why would your complaints be focused on the one guy who stuck to what you used to want him to stick to? Could embarrassment be a factor here? Shame? Humiliation? Do you feel uneasy about asking that ever congress member be an obedient slave to the president? Do you sense that progressives would then be excluded entirely? Does it worry you that you’re protesting insurance companies in support of a bill that causes insurance companies’ stocks to rise?
Even the activist groups that have acted on principle throughout this ordeal have fallen short of Kucinich’s actions. Kucinich knew that real progress would come through the states, so he worked to pass an amendment permitting state single-payer. And virtually nobody backed him up. Activist groups either prattled on in a fog about national single-payer, or they focused exclusively on the so-called public option. These two camps wouldn’t talk to each other, but they both agreed on leaving states’ concerns by the wayside.
If, in stark contrast to what was done, labor unions and activist groups and progressive media had taken their agenda from their membership and brought it to Washington, rather than the reverse, then very quickly Kucinich would not have been alone in demanding single-payer, and the right-wingers would have soon been begging for a token public option as a compromise.
Healthcare is only one issue. There are dozens of stories like the one above, with different issues but the same characters and plot. When dozens of congress members commit to opposing war funding, Kucinich commits and then follows through. When it comes to ending the wars or impeaching the war criminals, Kucinich leads, in opposition to his political party but in support of his constituents, the American people, the rule of law, and the stated goals of progressives.
I hope self-loathing partisan sycophants realize that the corporate media will equally depict either passage or nonpassage of a "health insurance reform" bill as a defeat for Democrats. And, in this case, rightly so. But the long-term impact of a reform that doesn’t reform, one that rather compels Americans to pay their hard-earned money to institutions even more hated than Congress, namely health insurance companies — THAT would be the real political loser, with or without a privately run program for 3 percent of us called "the public option." And, again, rightly so. Kucinich is saving the Democrats from themselves by helping to block their health insurance bill, but they can’t see what’s in front of them through the fog of their constant dreaming about mountains of money and a naked Rahm Emanuel poking them in the chests.



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Progressives ranted and raved for true progressive votes. They got one in Dennis and now they treat him like shit. What this says, is who the real progressives truly are, and it sure as hell isn’t blogs. Very few are anything more than Democratic Party shills. This man is voting the way he should. He is doing his g-damn job, and pretend progressives are throwing him under the bus. What is the official FDL opinion on this? I really would like to know, because I’ve watched/read other blogs and will no longer visit them or donate to their coffers including KOS, HuffPo, and numerous others. What is FDL’s opinion? What say you Jane, Jason, Marcy? Anyone?
I am pretty sure most FDLers support Dennis.
Rule #1: When in doubt, punch a DFH.
Rule #2: No exceptions to Rule #1.
Rule #3: When in doubt, punch a DFH.
Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
He is not perfect and he does use his campaigns for scoring dates. But he did win Firedog Of The Year I think, 2010.
scoring dates? I thought he was hitched.
Well if they support him, why are they so silent? Haven’t seen any major FDL people publicly support him.
Yeah, it’s pretty clear from scanning the pro-healthcare-feudalism sites that the message of the week is going to be ‘Get Kucinich’.
What do you want, a parade? I am for Kucinich.
Read this – totally answers your question:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/02/10/2010-fire-dogs-kucinich-grayson-and-weiner-win/
We recently raised money for him. I know, because I donated some.
Book Salon up at the Mothership with Amy Goodman’s Breaking the Sound Barrier hosted by Sara Robinson
Oh, fine, KellyBoy. Show me up with a link. *g*
Smooch!
Off to the Amy Goodman thread!
Wouldn’t you consider this post a support of Dennis?
I thought everybody hated people who keep their promises.
I think they’re preparing to blame Dennis if HCR goes down and teach him and progressives a lesson no matter which way it goes in the meantime. That’s what makes me mad. If the bill passes, we lose because it’s an awful bill. If it doesn’t pass, we lose because we get to hear all about how the losses in Nov are because the progressives killed health care just like 1994. Heaven forbid they should just admit that they lose because they suck at everything but selling out the American people.
Posting’s title shows support for DK.
Scoring dates. You obviously haven’t seen the little Mrs., let alone hear her speak or measured her intelligence.
Until recently, I still read Matthew Yglesias, even though I disagreed with him on HCR. But his over-the-top attacks really became sickening. After Grijalva told Greg Sargent that House liberals couldn’t support the Senate bill, Yglesias wrote a post with this title:
Of course, it’s not just Yglesias. Ezra Klein, Josh Marshall, Markos Moulitsas, Nate Silver, and Paul Krugman have all gone that extra mile to smear anyone who opposes the Senate bill with nasty, vicious attacks. One side is having a debate, and the other side is throwing feces.
This is the first time I’ve commented on FDL since it dumped TREX and went the reg route but finally seeing a little love for Kucinich made my day. Like the Canuckrodent say’s “Progressives ranted and raved for true progressive votes. They got one in Dennis and now they treat him like shit. What this says, is who the real progressives truly are, and it sure as hell isn’t blogs.” Do you remeber last year when Dk introduced Impeachment and all the Pelosicrats said, “just wait until after the election, then we’ll get justice!” And we know how that turned out. And even those bloggerts who pushed for it, somehow forgot to give Kucinich any credit. Glen Greenwald managed to write about a 3000 word article supporting Impeachment without ever mentioning Kucinich. Now we see the latest blogert darling, Alan Grayson, has introduced a medicare buyin bill that will nicely distract from the HCR bill that is actually going to be passed and, simultaneously, give cover to those ‘progressive dems’ who will vote for the crappy HCR bill, saying that they also support Grayson’s bill. Of course medicare buyin has even less chance than the PO. As soon as the present HCR bill is passed, it will be pointed out by the ‘leadership’ that the people who will buyin will be the oldest and sickest cohort, necessitating a rise in medicare cost and a probable lowering on benefits for those already on medicare. And so it will quietly die but not without giving the political cover for the ‘progressives’.
And Dennis Kucinich will continue to tell the truth and the blogert parvenus like kos(ugh) will continue trying to climb into some national broadcasters pocket to feed on the stinky cheese.
Thank you, David, for defending the “unhip,” perhaps-unpopular adult who’s right, and doing the right thing by courageously speaking difficult truth to hostile power, against the “hip,” perceived-as-popular kids and pseudo-adults mocking him who’re wrong, with a helping of venal on the side in some cases.
That statement leads me to repeat part of a comment I just posted in Jane’s Paths of Glory thread:
Dennis Kucinich should not now be left out there almost on his own to explain the Senate bill’s flaws, in order to justify his opposition to it, while the pressure on him to shut up is at its most intense, however much those flaws may have been discussed and carefully dissected at FDL and elsewhere before this week.
That is, I think that what’s needed now is a concise, but substantively detailed, Fact Sheet, contrasting side by side the most widespread claims of the bill’s proponents (such as those voiced by digifyouwill @ 7) with the bill’s actual language and expert analysis proving those claims to be false (such as that summarized by the responses of duncan, BooRadley and PhoenixWoman). All in a printable, easily-grasped format, for future reference. ["Talking points" in a way, that is, except points that let the evidence do most of the talking. Perhaps modeled on the excellent, large New York Times anti-FISA Amendments Act ad that Jane and Glenn and others put together.]
Those blogwriters opposing this bill’s passage can also then immediately point to and stand on a list of substantive reasons for their opposition, which expose the claims of the proponents as pie-in-the-sky, as those proponents resort only to namecalling and taunts in response.
Those who have long tracked the pros and cons of the debate have managed to pick up over the months a few key points about the major provisions of the Senate bill to enable them to make their own judgements, but at this time a clear pro/con summary is needed for those who haven’t been able to so closely track the debate, and who are thus now wide open and vulnerable to the propaganda of the Party (and the media) about its legislation.
Such a clear explanation would also help expose the forthcoming lies or mischaracterizations of Members of Congress about the bill [like the one by Bernie Sanders highlighted here] and their vote(s) for it while, perhaps most importantly, supporting Dennis Kucinich (as David does so well here), and any colleagues who join him, in his lonely public effort to exercise his own independent best judgement as a Member of Congress about what will most benefit, or hurt, his constituents and the nation as a whole. Supporting, in other words, those in Congress actually doing their duty as self-governing federal representatives and legislators, in the teeth of public and private pressures to silently conform to the will of others – pressures that implicitly or explicitly threaten misleading public ridicule like that which Kos so shamefully doled out to Kucinich on behalf of the corrupt status quo the other day.
Question of the week, month, year, and presidency:
There was a DKos report about Kucinich titled Why I say “ugh” on Kucinich by someone named “Kos”. I cannot say how reliable. DKos does not have the same high standards of accuracy as FDL of course and they ban conspiracy theories.
Mr. Kos also disapproved of Kucinich’s proposal for a “Department of Peace”.
we are still phone banking for the public option to four congressional districts in CA.
we have hope but we need support from House members who want to call the Senate leadership’s bluff.
Our message to the House:
Pass the public option AGAIN. You did it in December.
And what kos and the CMM seem to NOT want to comment on is Kucinich’s willingness to be a ‘yes’ vote IF the Obama Admin changes the part about States running their own health insurance single payer plans; “Or they could decide that they also want to protect the right of states to proceed with single payer, and not some place far into the future, but do it now. I mean, you have movements in Pennsylvania and in California, in my own state of Ohio, for states to be able to take responsibility for healthcare. I mean, create the possibility now. Let the momentum go in many different areas. But to say 2017 at best, and then it’s an if-come waiver to not permit the states to have legal protection against challenge by the insurance companies?”
Excellent article. I’m down with Dennis too…..
I think he’s the only one I’d vote for in the 2010 election. (except I live in CA!) He’s the only person that I’ve seen in politics that has real personal integrity and convictions. He walks the walk. Talk is so FUCKING cheap with politicians…it’s mind boggling. Who re-elects these people??? I’m certainly not going to. Ms. Feinstein and her co-horts can jump off a cliff for all the good they do. Obama….I want to love him so badly!! I really do. I was so inspired by his campaign and the idea of him, and what I thought he stood for. What a horrible let down. I have no idea what he stands for. I can no longer watch his speeches because his actions don’t back up the words, so listening to him annoys me. He is heads and above better than a Republican…butt….that’s not saying much is it??? OK, so back to Dennis. He’s been my hero, and continues to be my hero. Even if you don’t agree with his stance on healthcare…and I can understand why one wouldn’t….to excoriate him is really unfair, and showing the stress so many are feeling about this whole healthcare drama. I think they should scrap the whole bill. Expand Medicare to anyone who wants/needs it. Alot of people like myself will continue to keep their BC (private) policies because we can get in to see anyone, anywhere we want. Everyone else could have affordable care through the govt plan (Medicare). End of story. Tax the rich to pay for it. Pass a law saying ins co’s can’t raise premiums yrly more than 3%/yr, no caps on coverage. Regarding pre-existing…they can go on the Medicare plan, or they can go on a HIPPA plan which is more expensive but gets you standard Ins co ins. Why do we need a 2000 page bill?????????????????????????????? God knows what’s in that thing. All sorts of nefarious and dangerous provisions I should think. (I’m serious!). I don’t trust this govt at all. Look how they behave, why would any rational person. Ok, I digress…back to Dennis. He’s one of the very few good guys…..show him the respect he deserves EVEN if you disagree.
I’ll never forget how that lisping little asshat Markos (Reagan, CIA) Mos-whateverthefuck attacked Kucinich for upholding REAL progressive values.
I’ll never give that little fucker Kos another page hit.
Kill the bill!
Thank you David. You just outlined why Obama the Democrats are going to find a lot of voters sitting out 2010.
I love it when the corporate media introduce Markos and Daily Kos as “progressive”
Yeah, a Reagan Republican and CIA wannabe head of a progressive blog. We all now see how progressive Daily Kos is. Markos is just hacking to join the MSNBC Metros Keith “woman hater Olbermann, pencil-necked Obama-ass-sucker Richard Wolf, and that guy that looks like he’s about 11 years old.
Of course, Markos is going to have to get a pair of w omen’s eyeglass frames if he really wants to join this esteemed company.
Every single one of the simpering jackasses from the Professional Left who are trying to scapegoat Kucinich for the failures of the President and the rest of Congress need to be constantly reminded that it would take 38 House Democrats voting against the atrocious Senate bill to kill it. One has to wonder why their rage isn’t focused on people like the Stupak bloc, whose opposition to the bill is based on reasons supposedly antithetical to Democratic causes.
David Swanson you are ill-informed! Everything you wrote here about Kucinich is just your opinion and that is all it is. And you are just one person. Thanks for nothing!
Dennis Kucinich is standing up to The Corporation.
But if he caves, then all hope that we the people have in taking our country back from The Corporation is gone. If he caves, then The Corporation will have cemented that it owns the United States Government.
So many of us who voted for Obama – Democrats, Independents, and even Republicans – thought we were finally going to have a president who would truly work to protect us from The Corporation, to finally stop The Corporation from incessantly screwing us. Then we find out that this president just wants to do nothing but make deals with The Corporation.
The most recent sample of this is that this president dealt away to The Corporation ones of things we really wanted as a vehicle by which could escape this incessant screwing – the public option.
That’s right. Obama made a deal with the for-profit hospital industry to not sign a law with the public option.
Copy-paste-Google these titles if necessary to read all about it:
At the Huffington Post:
The Real Reason Obama’s Plan Doesn’t Include a Public Option
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/the-real-reason-obamas-pl_b_473924.html
At the Huffington Post:
Obama, Durbin and Pelosi All Point Fingers at Someone Else for Killing Public Option
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/obama-durbin-and-pelosi-a_b_497359.html
At the New York Times:
Obama Is Taking an Active Role in Talks on Health Care Plan
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/policy/13health.html?pagewanted=all
Quotes from the New York Times article:
“Hospital industry lobbyists, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of alienating the White House, say they negotiated their $155 billion in concessions with Mr. Baucus and the administration in tandem……..Several hospital lobbyists involved in the White House deals said it was understood as a condition of their support that the final legislation would not include a government-run health plan……..”We have an agreement with the White House that I’m very confident will be seen all the way through conference,” one of the industry lobbyists, Chip Kahn, director of the Federation of American Hospitals, told a Capitol Hill newsletter……..[House Democrat Waxman] added: “The president has said he wants a public option to keep everybody honest.”……..Still, industry lobbyists say they are not worried. “We trust the White House,” Mr. Kahn said.”
TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY: Obama made this deal to kill the public option with the for-profit hospital industry even though this: Peer-reviewed, published 2002 study (Google this title to read about it): “A systematic review and meta-analysis of studies comparing mortality rates of private for-profit and private not-for-profit hospitals” – They found that for-profit hospitals have a 2% HIGHER DEATH RATE than non-profit hospitals because of the need to generate profit to satisfy investors, the significantly higher administrative costs, and the large executive bonuses.
Obama and Democratic congressional leaders who know this are therefore letting those who want the public option have false hope. Is this not a betrayal of trust?
Why is the New York Times the only mainstream media reporting this?
Where are the real journalists?
Because of this deal-making with the Corporation, we end up with little at best of what we really wanted and really voted for, which is freedom from this incessant screwing.
And this president representing us does not have the moral courage to own up to this.
We are voters scorned.
Heaven has no rage like trust to distrust turned,…Nor hell a fury like a voter scorned.
And if anyone does not think so, then “Remember Massachusetts!”
I love this video of Dennis No Fold and Ani DiFranco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCgzp5dFfU
Keep on keepin’ on, Dennis!
If the presidential field looks as bad in 2012 as I think it will, DK will be my write-in vote for president.
That’s a very good idea, Powwow.
I’ll talk to the team about that. If you’d like to help, we’d love to have you.
I love you people and your real, authentic, true progressive anger. I don’t know what i would do without FDL to remind me that i’m not alone.
And do i need to say I’m with Kucinich. Too bad we don’t have more like him.
Need some help on this decision.
Filled out my form for the netroots convention in LV, but at the very end, didn’t hit the send button. Got an email asking, in effect, why I bailed. Responded that I was really disturbed by Marcos’ recent MSNBC appearanc wherehe threw DK under the bus.
My current thinking is that abandoning DK is tantamount to a declaration of civil war within the progressive movement. Am I overreacting?
Anybody else having similar thoughts/doubts/concerns?
Thanx.
I would have been livid had I attended last year, just to have anti progressive Bill Clinton keynote and tell everyone to pass anything and call it victory in re pending health care legislation.
It doesn’t appear to be a progressive event in the least. I wonder if it ever was?
You may not like this, and will probably call me an asshat too (which has to be one of the lamest call out expressions ever) but this attack of yours on Moulitsas reads very similarly to the weekly hate mail featured on Saturdays on the Daily Kos. And, if she’d be willing to share, probably a lot like the hate mail that Jane et al get here on a regular basis. Lisping? Like a person can be condemned for a vocal inflection! Ad hominem attack on steroids. Just like those right wing hater posters we all know of so well.
What’s the point? We’re all in this together, fellow communitarians.
Dear David,
I too, am down with Dennis. I also appreciate your fine work and that of our esteemed host here, Jane Hamsher.
It seems to me that you have hit the nail on the head as concerns the faux outrage with Dennis Kucinich and his courageous stand on health care reform. These others are really about party before country and sometimes just about themselves before anything.
We can thank President Obama for providing his stumble dumb approach to this corporate bailout via health insurance because it has now drug on long enough to finally and fully reveal who is who; who is in who’s pocket; and who has their hands in our pockets.
I am not so sure the analysis in the comments here on Grayson is fair. His medicare buy in bill is stand alone and if approved before HCR then won’t that provide the safety valve to the mandate. If all the sick go to medicare then that is the place for the subsidies and also a socially acceptable way for the corporate dems to do their bit for corporate profitability. All this is from my limited understanding of HCR in that I only know what I have read about it and have not read the actual document.
Right now without something real as an offset, it is necessary to pull the mandate or kill the bill. Sorry Obama and corporate dems but what you’re selling, we’re not buying.
Thank you,
Conrad C. Elledge
I’m in no position to decline your invitation to contribute to such an effort, Jane, since I’m urging others to do it, but I’m nowhere near as up to speed on the specifics of the Senate health care bill as a handful of others regularly writing about it here at FDL, in particular, obviously are. [Which may be one reason why I feel the need for such a summary - I've got only the broad strokes of the problems with the Senate bill clear in my mind (such as its basic nature: a taxpayer-subsidy-underwritten gift to unregulated insurance monopolies, enforced by the IRS), and am often focusing on only or two major problems with the bill at a given moment, rather than recalling a more-comprehensive compilation of its biggest problems and drawbacks.] You probably don’t need me trying to get up to speed on the subject first, at this point, with time of the essence.
But I’d try to do my best to pitch in and help if there’s something else you think I and/or others here could add to the effort sometime over the next few days by offering our two cents on some of the specifics. [Perhaps posting a 'crowdsourcing' thread to collect pet peeves about the claims of bill proponents and feedback on which provisions most motivate bill opponents and proponents would be one way to make the task easier and the end result a product designed for maximum impact.]
The Dems. now operate like any other Organized crime syndicate. They sell power over different sectors of the economy the way mobsters divide up territory in their domains. The “people” are more then welcome to buy in if they have the cash other wise we should STFU as far as their concerned and stay out of “THEIR” business. These people are just what we used to call “influence peddlers” and everything in DC and by extension America up for sale starting with the head mobster in the WH and moving down from there. These are not legitimate politicians anymore and we have to stop regarding them in this manner. The Health Ins. mafia has bought HCR and this is their territory and anyone who thinks other wise is a chump. Dennis si old style politics as far as the rest of them are concerned and it pisses them off that he actually thinks his promises to the voters means something. They hold him and anyone with actual “values” ethics or character in utter contempt. The Gopers are just the “other” gang of mobsters who want their territory back and aren’t about to do anything they think gets in their way of re-gaining it.
I love Dennis, and trust him more than any other politician I can think of.
Full disclosure: Mr. Spock is one of my spirit guides lol.
I like this idea a lot, and at the risk of pissing some people off, I’m putting this out there anyway:
At some point, and perhaps that time has come, FDLers need to speak with one voice – not just in opposition to this putrified pile of once-good intentions (and we all know what the road to Hell is paved with), but in SUPPORT of those (now down to just one) who have remained true to the cause.
I believe a certain Seminal mod has pushed for reform and stayed positive – and, bless him, feisty – about the need to pass a bill because he sincerely believes it is a necessary first step, no matter how bad it may be. But amid the mounting evidence (wonderfully documented by Kucinich on democracynow and included in fflambeau’s Thursday diary,) I’m wondering: at what point does objectivity supplant cheerleading?
If not now, when?
Glad you reviewed the history — I was beginning to think I was crazy. Almost threw up this last week watching Ed Schultz, Larry O’Donnell and the Great and Somewhat Overrated Markos scapegoating Dennis Kucinich because he stands on his principles and keeps his promises. Markos called him “reprehensible” and said the HCR bill might be defeated and it would be all his fault if Dennis didn’t vote for it (huh?) and Markos was going to hold Dennis responsible for the 40,000 people who die if this HCR bill doesn’t (in his view) pass because of Dennis. What’s with the hateful hyperbole against guys who keep their word and refuse to give up? Sheesh.
It’s not like K is out to lunch. His basic (correct) argument is this: There’s nothing about the PO (or single payer for that matter) that is not in the interest of the American public with whom it’s popular, whereas the absence of the PO (which is unpopular) is solely in the interest of insurers.
I like the way Kucinich has spoken up in such an articulate way about the “privatization of the health insurance industry on a legislative basis with no non-commercial public competition.” That needs to be said and few others on prime-time TV are saying it while they’re doing things (instead) like hiding letters with names of those who pledged not to vote for HCR if the abortion language goes farther than Hyde (which it does per Jane H and I agree). That’s reprehensible. Where’s the honor? And these are “Democrats.” This is Obama’s Party, the party of dishonor.
Very few are anything more than Democratic Party shills.
Precisely. The sites I trust most are not those closely aligned with the Democratic Party. FDL, though better than the rest usually, still ultimately serves Democrats. DKos is hard to pin down because the site is more about its diaries than front page stories and Markos hardly posts anymore since its not election season. I do think the overall theme there, factoring in the front page stories and lack thereof, lack of action advocated aside from elections, the dominance of diaries and posts coming from those who relentless follow/support/defend the president, is very weak. There are a few good posters there, including, for the most part “MeteorBlades”, but it’s just not enough.
I’m entertaining the idea of boycotting the site to help reduce traffic and ad revenue. I run AdBlock on his site anyhow due to all the pro-corporate/MNC and MIC crap he allows to be advertised on there.
Agree, the state single payer waiver question is absolutely crucial and this is K’s baby. Making states wait to 2017 is absurd.
Jon Walker on FDL Action had a good analysis Mar 8. I worked on the CA single payer plan for several years, a magnificent grassroots effort by our vols out there, and now live in PA where our SP bill has been progressing well, Gov Rendell said he might sign it (better luck than we had in CA with Squaremouth although when his term runs out next year Jerry Brown might run again and would probably sign SP bill if he wins) — but now all this work in several states might have to come to a screeching halt as corporate Dems are cutting us off at every turn to protect the deals Obama made with hospitals, insurers and drug co’s, to protect him. This is getting to be extremely disturbing, that our so-called more progressove party, the Democrats, are now as corrupted as the GOP always was and we have this weird president who turns out to be the Betrayer-in-Chief. So if Dennis Kucinich speaks up on our behalf, I stand with our 2010 Firedog and send him as many bucks as I can.
love Kooch!
Top Blue Cross salaries soar: report-by at least 48 percent, CEO by 62%
Top Blue Cross salaries soar: report
As President Obama rails against insurance company abuses in an effort to bolster his health-care reform bill, the salaries for top officials at Blue Cross & Blue Shield of Illinois’ corporate parent will almost certainly add fuel to his fire.
Crain’s Chicago Business says the 10 most senior executives of the nonprofit Health Care Service Corp. saw their compensation jump last year by at least 48 percent, thanks to huge bonuses. Compensation more than doubled for six.
CEO Patricia Hemingway Hall’s compensation spiked 62 percent to $8.7 million. That was $2.2 million more than Humana CEO Michael McCallister earned — even though Humana’s $31 billion in revenues last year was nearly double that of the Chicago-based Health Care Service.
“It’s greedy and outrageous,” Wheaton business owner Linda Cherrington told Crain’s. Her company switched insurers when Blue Cross premiums went up 45 percent.
http://www.suntimes.com/business/2101711,CST-NWS-bluecr...
Im down with Dennis too. He is totally right.
Dennis terrifies the solons because he actually speaks to and for his constituents and is accountable for his actions to the majority of people who elected him to represent them, not just a few rich patrons. Does anyone else have representation in our Congress?
I support Kucinich’s stand on the health care bill, just as I thought he was right to insist on impeaching George W. Bush. Sometimes being right means being alone. In fact, it can look an awful lot like being crazy sometimes. I don’t always agree with the guy, but I don’t always agree with any politician. In fact, it would scare the crap out of me if I did.
He’s right here, and he’s doing what we asked him to.
If I see Dems seriously raising cash against Kucinich, I will give my first donation to a Democrat since 2006 to Dennis. I sat out the 2008 election for obvious reasons. But I got $2,100 for Dennis.
Everyone who appreciates this post should take a moment to hit the Recommend button so it will be viewable from the front page for as long as possible. I’ve rarely seen posts that so concisely and precisely reflect my views, sentiments, and frustrations.
I want to take a moment to unpackage one important paragraph:
Blessed and cursed in 2009 with the lack of a full-time job, I had the luxury to support, march with, and meet some of the leaders of the single-payer movement, and I am in awe of folks like Katie Robbins, Tim Carpenter, and Donna Smith. I’m certain they would take issue with David’s assessment, since they certainly voiced support for and organized around the Kucinich amendment.
However, I’m down with David’s critique. As I’ve maintained early and often, such as here, the major SP organizations erred badly in acting as if, because fighting for national and state single payer are roughly morally equivalent, they deserved equivalent tactical commitment in late 2009.
Because Democrats and the progressives who loved them too much kept single payer out of the town halls and roundtables, and off the “stakeholder” rosters at hearings and private confabs, national single payer was never going to gain legislative approval in 2009. Although activism supporting national SP was and will remain essential, late gestures such as the Weiner amendment and the token agreement (ultimately scotched anyway) to allow it a vote were never anything but symbolic.
The top SP activist organizations should have tipped their hat to the Weiner amendment but gone balls to the wall for the Kucinich amendment. (The FDL whip machine could also have been marshalled to the effort but wasn’t.) A fair listing of things that went unnecessarily wrong with progressive HCR activism in 2009 would be incomplete without that item.
Bad Democrat. n. A Democrat who attacks Dennis Kucinich.
Face up to it Y’all. The Democratic Party is a steaming heap of shit. They could have given you single payer. Instead they will force you to support the crooked health insurance companies that are driving you into bankruptcy when they are not killing you outright. I’m sorry. If you think Obama’s Serf Care is better than nothing you are STUPID!
You have a knack for putting things in a nutshell David–thanks very much for this.
Also down with Powwow’s comment at #20, His suggestion would further the debate–with precious little time left.
Here is a twitter exchange with markos on this topic recently:
The weakness in kos’s argument, imo, is his belief that opposition to this bill is illegitimate. He says that if this bill is defeated, healthcare reform is dead, permanently. However, if the bill passes, the reform process rolls on, PO or SP are added over time.
There are two glaring fallacies in kos’s argument. One, that this bill IS hcr reform. Two, that health care reform dies if this bill dies–that there is no way forward without this particular bill.
I don’t brand kos’s argument as illegitimate. But he is mistakenly, and I think disrespectfully, claiming that opposition to this bill IS illegitimate.
I agree 100%.
Not sure I can help since I am not a Democrat. I am a socialist. I suggest you find a better word to describe your politics than “progressive”. In my experience, most people who describe themselves as progressive are merely partisan Democrats. Obama (and by association Kos) is the political opposite of Kucinich. A “movement” that supports them both would be an absurdity. You are at the crossroads my friend. I hope you will not sell your soul to the Corporate Dems.
Good article. I donated a few bucks to Kucinich.
Thanks David. I kicked in $10 bucks to Dennis via ActBlue. Sorry it could not have been more.
Commrade workingclass, I too am a socialist who finds it rather dissonant to hear such a wide array of political positions grossly referred to as “progressive.” I prefer, liberal to cull out those lefties who channel FDR and the New Deal. I save the term “progressive” for the same bunch of losers (Democratic Party Operatives) that you do.
Michael Moore pointed out on MSNBC tonight that the crappy bill’s reforms of Health Insurance’s practices of excluding buying polcies due to pre-existing conditions, denial of coverage with a policy, pricing higher risk people out of the market through huge premium rate increases, increases in deductibles and co-pays – none of these regulations will apply to adults for four years. That’s thousands and thousands of unneccesary deaths. It gives the H.I. cos. four years to adjust and fatten themselves. Sickening, in every sense of the word. Congress is bought and paid for, except for lonely brave people like Dennis.