When I advocated the impeachment of George W. Bush, I did so despite, not because of, all the animosity it fueled among impeachment supporters. I didn’t want retribution. I wanted to deter the continuation and repetition of Bush’s crimes and abuses. Specifically, and by far most importantly — and I said this thousands of times — I wanted to deny all future presidents the powers Bush had grabbed. One-time abuses can be catastrophic, but establishing the power to repeat them can multiply the damage many fold, especially when one of the powers claimed is the power to create new powers.
There’s a common tendency to confuse politics with reality television shows or to imagine that politicians are, even more than fictional heroes, your own personal friends. This tendency is only compounded by the partisan framework in which we are instructed to imagine half the politicians as purely evil and the other half as essentially good. So, let’s be clear. There’s very little question that Barack Obama speaks more eloquently than Bush, and that Obama at times (and more so as a candidate than as a president) expresses far kinder and wiser sentiments than Bush. It seems quite likely to me that had Obama been made president in 2000 he would have done far less damage than Bush by 2008. Obama is probably a fun guy to play basketball with, while Bush might be expected to throw elbows, kick opponents, and pull your shorts down. But I’m interested in something more important than the spectacle of personality here. I think Obama would make a wonderful powerless figurehead, and I dearly wish that were what he was. I think Americans clearly need one.
Three rough ways of looking at a president might be as follows. First, in the unimaginable circumstance in which a president encountered a homeless person on the street, would he invite him to live in the White House, or help him find a home, be nice and give him $1, ignore him, shout at him to get a job, kick him in the guts, or help him into a van and take him off to be tortured? I don’t care about that way of looking at presidents. Second, do the policies the president pursues lead to massive numbers of people becoming homeless or worse? Third, do the policies the president pursues empower all future presidents to make unfathomable numbers of people suffer horribly? My contention is that Obama has not yet done as much damage as Bush in the second view but has, in a certain sense, done worse in the third view.
Richard Nixon’s White House Counsel John Dean, while Bush was president, predicted that Bush’s successor would be one of two things, either the best or the worst president in history. He, or she, would either undo the damage and prosecute the crimes, or protect the criminals and continue the abuses. Obama has protected the criminals, continued many of the abuses, more firmly established the power to commit those abuses, and expanded abusive powers beyond what Bush ever attempted. I’m not trying to quantify and determine whether Obama has grabbed “more” new abusive powers than Bush did. I’m simply pointing out that, as with previous presidents, Obama has retained the powers bequeathed him and added some.
Whether the third way of looking at presidents (the powers they leave their successors) is more important, and how much more important, than the second way (the immediate damage they do to the world) involves speculation. When William McKinley sent troops abroad without congressional approval, people died. But a lot more people died when later presidents did the same thing. Most of the killing and torturing done by the CIA has occurred long after Harry Truman left office. The pattern is that powers, once established, are augmented, not curtailed; and they are used, not neglected. A pattern doesn’t predict the future, but it can establish potential dangers.
U.S. political debate, chattering, organizing, activism, and campaigning focuses most heavily on domestic issues — even in discussions of a federal budget that devotes more than half our money to the military. And it is on domestic issues that the biggest differences can be found between the two parties and their leading members (which is why the debate tends to stay there). Obama appears to have appointed less crazy justices than Bush to the Supreme Court, more sane individuals to the National Labor Relations Board, etc. Obama’s healthcare bill may have been disappointing, but at least there was one. However, that’s a very charitable view. Presidents controlling the drafting of legislation in accordance with their secret negotiations with corporate cartels is a bad precedent to be entrenching, the health insurance reform bill arguably does more damage than good (including through the requirement to purchase a corporate product), and the bill makes it very difficult for states to put serious healthcare solutions in place as Vermont is attempting to do — and the impediments were insisted upon by Obama.
The Education Department pushes corporatization, privatization, and testing. The trade agreements are all corporate. Obama has promoted the development of nuclear energy and “clean coal.” The damage of Hurricane Katrina has been left in place, but been compounded by the BP oil gusher, during which disaster the White House’s priority seems to have been deceiving the public about the extent of the damage. The environment may be more than a domestic issue, but it is also one where disaster looms. As we march forward into worse weather and more frequent “natural” disasters, one might reasonably place ever greater blame on each successive president who declines to make any attempt at survival (much less one who goes to international conferences and sabotages possible global accords, as Obama did in Copenhagen). And this is all before we look at the budget.
President Obama is taking the budget from the Bush years, adding to the military, and cutting or freezing everything else. The budgetary crisis in state governments and in people’s homes continues to worsen. The Wall Street and corporate bailouts that Obama helped Bush impose on us have only escalated since Obama moved to the White House. But Obama wants everything non-military that might divert money anywhere other than the richest of the overlords to be frozen, cut, or eliminated. When Bush tried to cut off poor people’s heat in the winter, ACORN raised hell and stopped him. When Obama did the same, ACORN had already been eliminated. Obama now wants to eliminate what’s left of taxes on corporations.
Obama has not added as much to the military budget as Bush did, but he has added to Bush’s largest military budget, enlarging it further each year — and with activist groups and news reports tending to falsely report that he’s cutting it. This leads to more money for wars, less money for people, and less activism protesting these policies at the very moment when much of what remains of the peace movement has chosen to focus on budgetary issues rather than on ending wars. Bush’s budgets were worse than they appeared because he used off-the-books supplemental bills to add more money to wars. Obama campaigned against that practice. Since becoming president, Obama has done just as Bush did, establishing off-the-books war spending as a normal practice favored by both parties, and establishing campaign lying as the norm as well.
For a time, Obama had more troops and mercenaries in the field than Bush had ever had. Now he doesn’t, as a result of a partial withdrawal from Iraq. But Obama has embraced the myth that a 2007 escalation in Iraq caused a reduction in violence there, and he has applied that myth to Afghanistan with escalations in each of the past two years leading predictably to increased violence. Obama has taken a low-scale war in Afghanistan and dramatically worsened it. He has ignored, covered-up, and passed the buck on endless war crimes. He has radically expanded the use of drones, including into Pakistan. He has sent troops into Pakistan and at one point, according to news reports, into 75 nations, 15 more than Bush. Whether you count small-scale death squads as “wars” or not, the drone bombing of Pakistan certainly looks warlike, and that has happened without even the pretense of congressional authorization, and in the face of United Nations condemnation of illegality. Obama has added more U.S. military bases in more foreign nations, boosted weapons sales to nations we may some day have the opportunity to fight wars against, and continued the privatization of the military and the employment of the most notorious corporations of the Bush era — helping to establish their immunity.
“Well, well, yeah, but he closed Guantanamo!”
Obama never intended to free prisoners or put them on trial. He always intended to keep people in prison without any due process. He just thought he might do some of it in Illinois instead of Cuba. He’s been unable to make that move, but frankly who cares? The question is not how many people we’re lawlessly imprisoning in Afghanistan and how many in Virginia. The question is whether we will lawlessly imprison people. Apparently we will. Secret abuses under Bush have become public formal policies under Obama. Whether to lock someone up, and even whether to torture them, has become a matter of policy preference, not of law. Even the power to assassinate anyone, including Americans, has now become — by Obama’s decree — a matter purely of presidential whim, with no authorization from any other person or court or legislature required.
Obama announced the end of torture, not its prosecution in court. But he continued to claim the privilege to torture if he chose to, as Leon Panetta and David Axelrod made clear. And he openly claimed the power of extraordinary rendition, that is, the power to kidnap people and send them off to be secretly tortured in other countries. We don’t know if this has happened. But we wouldn’t. We do know that torture has continued in Guantanamo, in Bagram, and in the US-backed Iraqi government. Warrentless spying, likewise, continues and grows, while Obama has assured corporate co-conspirators of immunity.
In fact, Obama has publicly instructed the Justice Department not to prosecute torturers at the CIA, and his Justice Department has worked night and day to protect the architects of countless war crimes, including through the establishing of privileges of secrecy and immunity that Bush never even sought. This Justice Department and our courts are establishing the right of powerful officials to immunity from criminal or civil suits that might expose what they have done while employed by our government. Obama has also pressured a number of European nations not to prosecute the crimes of his predecessor. And much of this has gone almost unremarked. The outrage at crimes committed by Bush becomes vague disinterest upon learning that Obama has badgered Spain not to prosecute those very crimes.
This is the magic, the disastrous magic, of having a president of the other political party pick up the baton. Obama gave a Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech in which he glorified war. He gave a speech on wars from the Oval Office in which he embraced a whole series of lies about Iraq. He stood in front of the U.S. Constitution in the National Archives and tossed habeas corpus into the trash bin. Can you imagine the raging inferno of outrage had Bush done any of those things? The process of normalizing crimes is not purely one of repetition and expansion. It’s also one of fading the crimes into the background, making them part of the national furniture, forgetting collectively that we ever got along without them.
I mentioned the power to create new powers. This is where we risk exponentially worse damage — to our system of government and to the world — in the coming years. We don’t guarantee it, but we do risk it. Avoiding it would require unprecedented steps of restraint and reversal. Obama came into office advertising himself as the president of sunshine, transparency, and openness. The age of secrecy was at an end! I’m not measuring Obama against the standard of his campaign promises, although it seems fair to do so. I’m measuring Obama against the standard of Bush, and noting that part of how Obama operates is through deceptive propaganda. Obama has refused to release White House visitor logs from the period when he met with health insurance corporations, has maintained the right to hide any others he chooses, but released some and announced this as a breakthrough. Meanwhile, he sends staff to meet with lobbyists just off the White House grounds in order to avoid writing anything in the visitors’ logs.
This is Bush-Cheney-level secrecy with the pretense that it isn’t. And it’s worse. Obama has set records for rejecting Freedom of Information Act requests and for prosecutions of whistle blowers — not to mention the lawless imprisonment and torture of alleged whistleblower Bradley Manning, a policy Obama has defended by reference to unnamed secret standards set by the military. Just as Obama escalates wars when and how the military publicly tells him to, he takes responsibility for torturing a prisoner on the military’s say-so. This rhetoric is not just rhetoric. It threatens civilian rule.
Obama campaigned on the constitutional idea that the legislature makes laws. He denounced Bush’s practice of altering laws with signing statements. As president, Obama, for a while, used signing statements just as Bush had, to claim more powers for the president (and every future president), including this power to claim more powers. Then Obama established the practice of assuming that prior signing statements or executive orders or secret legal memos could be used in place of new signing statements. This is even worse and more secretive than Bush’s practice of announcing which laws he would violate. Obama announced that he would review Bush’s signing statements and decide which ones to keep, but not whether those decisions would be public, and with no explanation of how that process was any more constitutional than Bush’s. Obama also began making law, including “law” on lawless imprisonment by executive order. Congressional Republicans like Buck McKeon want that particular law to be even worse, and so have objected to its imperial announcement. But they won’t push that balance-of-powers fight very far.
Both parties have now established as flawless heroes people who engage in some of the same abuses. And whoever’s next will be hard pressed to even call those abuses abuses, should he or she miraculously want to. The U.S. Supreme Court accepts powers used without opposition by multiple presidents as established presidential powers. Signing-statementing laws is now one of those powers.
So is secret and imperial war-making. John Kerry and John McCain want Libya bombed. John Yoo, not yet prosecuted for having “legalized” aggressive war, agrees with them. Obama, to his great credit, has not yet taken that step. But the debate is over policy choices, not laws. The fact that bombing another country is illegal is no longer considered a fact in Washington, D.C. It’s a fringe opinion. And that is what scares me.
So why not impeach Obama? I clamored for the impeachment of Bush. I say Obama is as bad or worse. Why am I such a corrupt hypocrite that I haven’t built a movement to impeach Obama? Well, I’ll tell you, as I’ve told people more times than I can count. Obama should be impeached and convicted and removed from office. Obama should be prosecuted for his crimes. So should his subordinates. So should his predecessor, his subordinates, and all corporate co-conspirators. The reason I can’t get 20 people into the streets to demand Obama’s impeachment (and if I did, they’d want him impeached for being born in Africa to aliens from Planet Socialism) is that nobody in Congress is even pretending to give a damn. We were able to produce a sizeable movement for impeachment when Bush was in office, because a lot of Democrats in Congress, especially in 2005 and 2006, pretended they were on our side. I say “pretended” as a way to indicate not that they didn’t agree with us, but that they were not committed to trying very hard.
The abolition of slavery started with one person saying it was wrong and demanding change. We have to do that when it comes to the matter of ending the imperial presidency and establishing a representative republic. I want anyone who engages in the abuses discussed above impeached, prosecuted, voted out of office, and shamed. We have to pursue justice for 4 or 8 years with liberals resenting us and 4 or 8 years with rightwingers resenting us, and so on, back and forth. That means pushing where we spot a little bit of give in the machinery. It means exposing the torture of Bradley Manning and supporting anything Congressman Dennis Kucinich does to expose it and anything any other congress members do if any ever join him. It means demanding a complete end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan. And it means building viable movements of resistance at the state level as Wisconsin is doing. Join us at the White House at noon on March 19th. Get involved here:
http://warisacrime.org/content/upcoming-events



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Obama promised to reverse Bush. Obama institutionalized and expanded Bush.
I’ll take Sa-Sa-Sarah, Slicky-Ricky, or Huckleberry any day – at least the Dem Party would be paying lip-service opposition to *their* right-wing, corporatist, neocon policies.
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Hell yes, he’s worse than Shrub. at least bush didn’t lie about what he wanted to do…even if it was evil. you could take a clear stand against the son of a bitch because you knew he was your political enemy. With Obama, everything is a lie, and while he piously claims to be the best friend of liberals and progressives, he stabs us in the back every chance he gets.
Obama happily embraces the liberal/progressive brand, but his every action is a betrayal of the principles that liberalism stands for. As “only Nixon can go to China”, only Obama can gut Social Security.
Way worse, no comparison, as he is a complete hologram. there is nothing there, all illusion and lighting.
Bush did as much as he could to seem bad, like his personality all about being self confident, feet on the ground, tough texan, what about the 4 generations of Up east money and daddy dearest, mommy too. And the fixers among the family friends, that made it all possible. That’s a whole essay, but he nevertheless is well known and was no real maverick, just in style, he stretched the envelope , as I think he was supposed to do, along with the plan to make the presidential office something weaker, while pretending to go the unitary executive direction, but that isn’t really what it appears.
The actual strength of the president having some limitations that aren’t stated, namely, if he gets to high handed, he gets his… handed to him. A la _____ fill in.
So to recap: the office of the president under the guise of increases in executive autonomy, actually was rendered much more “cartoonish” and substantially undermined, by being shrunk down to fit the character. If the president is a shrimp, then the office is only… so big. It has, that is been shown to operate with no personal stature. That’s a leg up for… monarchists, hanging out in the wings, who would “inherit.” Or by decree of SCROTUS ARBITUS ELECTUM /s
Hence the first thing to build on that would be the fantastic heretofore improbable imposition of the first muslim sounding minority race president, with a pretty good veneer of the glib, but with out a shred of character, insofar as delivering one iota on anything that he promised his young naive fans.
So worse, but really just another incremental stage in a progression, look out for the next stage, it will be hard not to find her humorous a lot of the time, hey we are all due some laughter, as she rises up and looks over the horizon.
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Hell, yes he’s worse.
Bush didn’t pretend to be for the greater good or the middle class for one hot minute. He was a cruel, greedy, callous, warmonger and proud of it.
Obama is a total fraud. A sneak and a pathological liar.
His administration and closest advisors are all bankers.
The quintessential “Manchurian.”
Obama promised change and fully embraced the status quo as his own, putting the lie to any thought that there is any difference between parties.
The only difference is who gets the perks and the spoils. That’s it.
Yes.
“Is Obama Even Worse Than Bush?”
That’s a rhetorical question, right? A weak attempt at humor?
Of course he is. By a thousand miles worse.
What Margaret said.
Thanks David. A great indictment!
Without a doubt.
Yes.
Next question.
Of course, you’re right; however, Obama will never be impeached, nor will he be convicted. In fact, he’ll probably be reelected. And the powers of the the national security state and the unitary executive will survive him.
Democracy? Fat chance.
Adolf Obama is our second unitary executive. He is worse than the first and the third will be worse than Obama. Until the people are able to create a Second Republic, complete with a new constitution, nothing will change for the better.
Five deferments Dick, if he ever actually dies, will die a happy man. His vision of a totalitarian United States has come to fruition.
Do ducks have watertight assholes?
One would have to be somewhere in the basement of the political food chain to be below bush on anything, but Obama has sprinted past Bush to the bottom of the political cesspool and is making it deeper and wider with every decision he makes.
The man the people elected isn’t the man the people elected.
Absolutely he is more dangerous to the Democratic Party and working people than Bush. Obama will compromise policies that Bush could only dream of changing. I’m for any and all legal constitutional methods to remove Obama as soon as possible. If not before Jan 2013, then at any cost during the 2012 election. #VoteAnybodyButObama2012
Wow, it’s unanimous!
I wouldn’t wait. Start the removal process now.
Yes,he is.
Yes. All he sells is deception. No allegiance to a platform (Bush acknowledged his base-the elite 1%), certainly not that of the democrat party.
Obama flys lies.
Obama flies lies. Thanks.
Well is he?
G.W.Bush with his self-selected VP — Dick the Dick — stole the 2000 WH election using Florida as the weapon and the Supreme Court as the get-a-way car. Barack Obama in a sense stole the 2008 WH election being what he was selling as candidate Obama during 2008 ( I am the anti-Bush/Cheney ) he clearly had no intent on honoring once in the WH — which he has not.
Conclusion >> This was worst being Barack Obama ran against Bush and Cheney as well as McCain/Palin — this duplicity was deceptive and lays Obama open to being called a liar.
Barack Obama’s foreign policy as been more alike what Bush and Cheney were pushing and doing than not alike.
Conclusion >> Worst — being the Americans who worked to support and voted for Barack Obama did not want what Bush and Cheney had done or were doing.
Barack Obama’s domestic policy choices,follow throughs and abide with the legacy of the D Party which gave us FDR’s SS and common sense federal government Wall St./big banks/banking regulation/rules and LBJ’s Medicare has been a series of political cave ins and weak spined tainted money politics sellouts.Prime examples being Obama’s fake HCR which was more pro AHIP than pro American citizen and his “not looking back” regarding The Shrubs torture okaying and letting Wall St./the big banks mortgage fraud debacle(s) go unpunished with no one going to jail bullshit.
Conclusion >> Really much worst being Obama was/is supposedly not a R Party POTUS- yet that seems to be what he is — GOP Lite or GOP right of center.
Barack Obama was not upfront with his politics during the 2007-2008 WH election. He betrayed his supporters and those who voted for him.
Bush was a historic Really Bad POTUS and VPOTUS Cheney was a full time Dick but they did not betray their base — in this sense Barack Obama has been much worst.
Barack Obama has betrayed too many of us/those who worked to get him elected as POTUS in 2008.
Barack Obama deserves a steep defeat and a hard kick out of the WH in 2012.
Conclusion >> Yes — Barack Obama has been worse — Obama is worse than G.W.Bush being he claimed to be the Anti-Bush.
Barack Obama has not been/is not the Anti-Bush.
Hell Yes! He’s worse. He has completely sold out what was left of the Democratic Party. We’re left now with a homogenized political corporate state where the point of all public policy is about profits for the top 1%.
Yes.
The one service he has performed he has done so unwittingly and that is, he has exposed the Democratic Party for what it is, the Republican Party with a lying smiley face.
(I too tried to recommend this excellent post anda received an error message.)
Yes, he is worse.
If we are going to have republican policies, we might as well have republicans get the blame for them.
Glenn Greenwald makes some admirable and fair comparisons between Obmama and Bush/Cheney:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/18/cheney
The human face of fascism, indeed. A Product. Sold to the credible, the naive, and the desperately hopeful.
As someone pointed out, stealing from the gullible is still stealing.
Swanson’s point is what has become, to any informed observer, a crazy funhouse-mirror usurpation of many of the forms of what we used to know of as the US government by a monotheistic corporatist phalanx of well-funded operatives in the media, K and C Streets, and both Houses. In truth, the Federal level may very well be lost to true progressives for tthe immediate future. The states still have the ability to provide room for real populism and action–viz., Wisconsin.
In the end, it is a television-centric corruption and politics that we see at work here. In much the same way that British-smuggled opium destroyed what remained of China’s ruling class, so we see TV–which is where all those Koch bucks go–as effectively corrupting to our politics as opium was. So TV is the target–the whole TV business, top to bottom. Surely, we have enough bright sparks amongst us here at FDL to attack that dinosaur, using our clever, though tiny, mammalian brains!
I’m buying a membership. Right now.
Oops. “Credulous”, not “credible”.
Yes. By many many many many loooooong country miles. Yes. Wish we could impeach. Won’t happen, more’s the pity.
BTW, you echo my feelings exactly:
“When I advocated the impeachment of George W. Bush, I did so despite, not because of, all the animosity it fueled among impeachment supporters. I didn’t want retribution. I wanted to deter the continuation and repetition of Bush’s crimes and abuses. Specifically, and by far most importantly — and I said this thousands of times — I wanted to deny all future presidents the powers Bush had grabbed. One-time abuses can be catastrophic, but establishing the power to repeat them can multiply the damage many fold, especially when one of the powers claimed is the power to create new powers.”
The reason I’m stilled really angry with Nancy Pelosi is that SHE permitted this very situation with Obama to occur. I didn’t want to impeach Bush as a form of revenge or retribution. Rather, I was deeply concerned about the “no conseqences” situation. And, as feared, those “chickens” have come home to roost.
Agree with a prior comment: Bush was the worst POTUS ever, but Obama is far worse than Bush, and the next one who comes along will be worse than Obama. We are so screwed. Thanks a lot, Pelosi! Guess you got yours, so us proles can get effed.
But he’s much more charming, gives great smile, and as everyone knows, “his heart is in the right place.” What’s not to like?
BTW, Glenzilla recommends this: http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2011/03/in-jerusalem.html
And this: http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2011/03/15/this_modern_world
This is a very powerful piece, and I plan to save it as a handout to give anyone who asks how I could NOT vote for Obama when Nov 2012 rolls around — there are people in my family, for example, who aren’t paying that close attention and just think he’s being “opposed by the Republicans” or has to “make compromises.” It can be predicted, in our current kabuki-theater life, that the republicans will run someone reminiscent of Palin, some cartoonish oaf designed to make the voters run screaming to vote for Obama, or some similar ploy — if they succeed again in having their trojan horse installed, I can only conclude that the American electorate comprises the god-awfulest stupidest people on earth.
David, as much as it pains to admit this, I agree with your incisive assessment of Obama’s leadership and the conclusion that he must be removed from office. Impeachment is unlikely, but there is an election next year. The problem is, who do peace and democracy-loving, patriotic Americans have to vote for instead? Given America’s racial history, President Obama’s election seemed, at the time, as unlikely and fortuitous as we might have expected even after 8 shameful years of Bush/Cheney. Candidate Obama sold himself as “The Great Audacious Hope” for both Liberals and the rest of middle and poor America; however, he has proven that he is not that champion. Anyone who dares to hew to the ideological Left is caricatured as a radical now even by Democratic leadership because the political “center” now lies much farther Right than St. Reagan. So, again, who do we support, and how do we convince a person to run as a “radical-professional Lefty” and protect them from the corporate/upper-class/media threats that he or she surely will have to endure? And — perhaps more importantly — how would enough Right-leaning Independents and non-bigoted Teapartiers be convinced to vote for a non-Republican?
I think that your comment about the ‘health care’ ‘reform’ shows how disastrously delusional much of the Left STILL is. Obama’s ‘reform’ was a huge step further into corporatist fascism. It uses the power of the government to force citizens to pay tribute to the financial industry in order to, possibly, receive health care. We need to STOP assuming that the libertarian/constitutionalist Right is always wrong. They are dead on correct about many important issues.
This is a hard challenge, but it is one we MUST take on. IF Rightism in America truly is inherently racist, than there really is no hope. But is it? For far too long now Lefties and progressives have simply assumed that everyone on the Right is a hopeless racist/bigot.
Obama is worse than Bush in the sense that he gave us hope, then robbed us of it. He pretended he was something hew was not. Bush never pretended. Everyone knew, when he was elected that we were getting a silver spoon fed, draft-dodging oilman from Texas.
He’s far worse… and his ability to speak more eloquently than Bush is one of the reasons.
Every conscientious American citizen should be rebelling against
the kabuki theater known as “elections” in this country, which are no more “free” and “fair” than they are in Iran. The illusion of “2 parties” is just that: an illusion. If there is no coordinated third-party or write-in candidate, I plan to write in somebody, Alan Grayson perhaps, to indicate I voted, but not for the Money Party. Even if the third-party or write-in has no chance of “winning,” what exactly do we have to lose? I will no longer play their game.
To be sure, Mr. Swanson’s essay is well-written and well-documented. I have a problem, though, with the article’s fundamental premise. Perhaps it is indeed valid to compare Obama and Bush.
In my view, however, such comparisons are ultimately distractions. We need to keep our eyes on the grape.
We can prepare lengthy laundry lists and fill each president’s column, item by item, with a score. In the end, however, we never seem to list the right items. It’s not that the items listed here are unimportant; to the contrary, they’re all critically important. But, missed among that which spins around and around in the national washing machine (sorry!), are little things like whether citizens are more empowered than corporations, workers are more empowered than investors, media speaks truth to power, and voters, i.e. each and every voter, has political parity.
Every president, perhaps since FDR if we give him that much credit, has failed miserably to put an end to rich-get-richer governance. We live in an oligarchy; our democracy, such as it ever was, is dead and gone. The point is that on this scale, Obama gets a zero; Bush gets a zero. Absent an empowered citizenry, the rest of it, while important, becomes noise.
Until citizens regain control over their own government, there is only one measure of those whom we have elected – they have failed us. Sadly, on this measure, the presidential score is tied.
Wow, really? No one is going to defend Obama? Not one person?
Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t like I am going to do it. I would have much preferred Kucinich (prior to him selling his soul to Mr. Obama during the HCR fight) or Ralph Nader.
At this point in time, the left is dead. Chris Hedges is right with his assessment of the left. As much as I know fiscally Ron Paul is misguided, I trust him to do what is necessary to extract us from our involvements overseas. If nothing changes, if no white knight of progressive liberal values takes the stage, I’m likely voting for Ron Paul.
I did not vote for Obama in 2008. Candidate Obama did say a lot of nice stuff, but much of it was light on detail, and there were many indications that he was more interested in capitulating to the republicans, rather than fighting them. And for me, the betrayal on the telecom immunity deal was the final straw.
Unless the dems dump Obama, I intend to vote Green in 2012. And I’m going to keep voting Green unless we see some democratic candidates that I can be proud to support.
It would be great if the Greens won, however, I’m not specifically counting on it. My hope is that, if enough people vote Green, the democrats will stop assuming that they can act like republicans and still get our votes.
In regard to your question about making a Left-wing candidate viable with Independents. They are viable. Here is the thing. . . . There are people who will always vote republican, and there are people who will vote for the democrats, then there are swing voters who seem to vote based on things like the current state of the economy. In many cases those people don’t actually have a well developed political philosophy—that is why they are swing voters. Adopting a right-wing attitude is not going to help with a voter who just votes based on his general impression about whether things are getting better or worse (and it might even hurt with a voter who votes for the candidate who he feels is most “authentic” because it could lead to the belief that the candidate doesn’t stand for any position at all).
IMO Bill Clinton won in 1996 because swing-voters thought that the economy was heading in the proper direction. I don’t believe that it had anything to do with “moving to the center.” If the economy was improving well enough, he could have moved to the left and achieved the same effect.
I think that republicans are somewhat aware of this fact, that is why they don’t worry about appealing to the independents—they just follow their own course, and let the independents come to them. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. But when they do win they make progress toward their right-wing goals. Yet, with democrats like Obama, we’ll never win.
We do like him—when we spit on the scumbag, and refuse to vote for him—we’re actually trying to help support him (It’s just not obvious). It’s called “11th dimensional support.” ;-)
Well, there’s this:
Obama Plays While Japan Begs for Help
http://www.infowars.com/obama-fiddles-while-fukushima-burns/
Now me, I don’t think the presidency has much power any more, so Obama might be a pretty nice guy who’s simply sold his soul ( not the first time in history)
You think he’s bad, read up on Henry VIII of England.
There’s no doubt, however, that Obama has become a very meretricious man as soon as he took office
heh
unfortunately, from what I’ve seen, the revolutions just keep producing the same kinds of, if not worse, monsters.
Until the basic blueprint of oppression: women’s oppression is mitigated there will never be change, except of masters. and no one seems very interested in that today.
Better change the word “man” for “human” then, because this world is turning into The Handmaid’s Tale – Margaret Atwood
Scalia has even said the Constitution only refers to men.
Yep, at least we knew HE was lying
“It’s called “11th dimensional support.””
Good one!
He didn’t even try, welshTerrier2
Faced with the disappointment of Obama, it will be tempting for progressives to vote for a third party in 2012, but doing so only amounts to a one-time protest and does not build a movement for the future. What’s needed is a movement that will transcend any one election.
The example of the Conservative and Liberal Parties in New York state could provide a good model for building a permanent organization to move the Democratic party in a more progressive direction. These two minor parties generally endorsed the Republican and Democratic candidate, respectively, but at times they supported a winning candidate on their own. James Buckley (William F’s brother)was elected as a Conservative to the US Senate and John V. Lindsay was elected mayor of New York. The Liberal party faded to insignificance long ago but the Conservative party has remained a force in NY state for decades and drove the Republicans rightward, and did play a major role in killing the old liberal Republican party of Jacob Javits and Nelson Rockefeller.
The key to the success of these minor parties was the threat to run a separate candidate who would then act as a s spoiler. And the willingness to endorse acceptable candidates even if they were not quite what the minor party wanted.
Of course, building a third, minor party of a clearly progressive nature that overlaps the Democratic party would be a struggle, but it could begin with proven progressives like Dennis Kucinich who might accept both the Democratic and a third party nomination.
Yes, he’s way worse. He’s a cynical hypocrite and a bold-faced liar. And has anyone mentioned stupid as well. He speaks well, but seems to have no idea about anything except skill at lying. Bush was an out front idiot and much as I hated seeing his monkey face on TV, I hate Obama’s lying, arrogant, Il Duce look even more. That arrogant chin up in the air, I’m doing a great job, lying sack of shit is pushing this country into outright fascism, something I thought Bush would do. And where is the liberal opposition to this jerk? Still waiting for the real Obama to come out. Forget about it. You are seeing the real Obama. Wall Street employee, ardent supporter of all Bush policies and the status quo, torturer, murderer of innocent people in Afghanistan and Pakistan, total asshole!
The whitewashing of crime is worse than the crime.
There will always be criminals, that’s why we have (or supposed to have) rule of law. But the whitewashing of past crimes sets a precedent and gives a green light to future criminals, which in the long run is a worse act than the original crimes.
People get the government they deserve. If war and financial criminals can go scot-free (and their enablers get rewarded), its party-time for worst criminals on the planet and their political enablers. And this continues because nobody wants to impeach their own guy (it’s that party loyalty thing). The American people will deserve this outcome if we don’t stand up and demand that rule of law be enforced (and yes, it means being willing to impeach their own guy if that’s what it comes down to). Otherwise, what’s coming will be an outcome that we deserve.
primary him…can we convince Rush Holt,Bernie Sanders,or
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Yup. Hard to imagine, but there it is.
Obama is the worst president ever.
Obama has been a disaster and Swanson’s comments are right on. He has been specific about Obama’s behavior and sellouts, and the comparison with Bush is telling. Obama is an enabler and an opportunist who is essentially a conservative on most social issues and his deceptions are scary. His lying and secrecy during the Heathcare Sellout for corporate insurance and drug cartels are obvious. He has ruined the Democratic Brand and the Democratic Party has in its cowardice helped it’s ruin come on like a rushing train.
So coupling lying, trashing promises made to your base,continuing and advancing torture, along with creating a more powerful military surge in Afghanistan than Bush ever dreamt of is only Obama’s beginning.
I thank David Swanson for his words, and in his call for action & wish all of us the luck to voice opposition to this fraudulent administration and a ruthless Obama who has betrayed his base and accelerated the demise of the Democratic Party.
Watching the Democrats when women’s rights were being trashed in the House and Senate without a word from Obama let alone a group of concerned Democrats was a lesson in how low Democrats have sunk. There’s still a staunch group of foolish liberals who overlook the truth of Obama’s behavior and refuse to admit they’ve been snookered.
The clarity of Swanson’s words have been very illuminating and offers hope that if more Democrats,Independents, etc. demand real change and hold Obama accountable for his actions there may be some hope, or even relief from the USA in a car crash.
Obama’s enabling and protecting Bush/Cheney’s criminal deeds is evil. We are now living in an Oligarchy, and Democracy as we have imagined it seems to have disappeared post haste with Obama who is more corrupt and dishonest than we could have ever imagined.
He should be impeached but this will not happen.
President Obama…A Profile in Courage. Not.
Just look at Obama’s behavior with regards to Wisconsin. This man is not even courageous, let alone transformational, Godlike, etc. He does not fit all those notions that Time and Newsweek and MSM editors forced down our throats during the primaries. It is very plain now that Obama acts to protect…himself. He will NOT fight or put his neck out for you, because there is nothing he believes in as strongly as personal advancement. This guy is the worst sort of inauthentic politician, and the exact opposite of the kind of leader people are hungering for. Don’t forget he voted–80% of his votes?–”present” in the Illinois legislature rather than take positions. So it is clear the problem of Obama is one of character.
During GWB’s presidency, little did I and could I ever imagine there could ever be a president I could feel would be worse than GWB. And little could I ever have imagined that a president worse than GWB could have come upon us so quickly after GWB. But get a worse president than Bush we did. Cry for America.
This guy is treacherous. He stabs poor people in the back and throws them under the bus and knows what he’s doing and laughs about it. Sometimes, a person cannot help his moral being showing through in the way he looks, and lately, I cannot stand to look at Obama’s pictures either (I already can’t stand to listen to his speeches). You see that grin? At least with Bush, what you saw was what you got, and he did not stab his base in the back–Bush boldly delivered for his base against any and all oppposition. And he also seems infinitely corruptible: Bush looked as though he did things as a result of right-wing beliefs, but Obama looks as though he does things because of campaign donations, etc.
He’s been called “conman,” the greatest “snake charmer” the world has ever seen.
Obama is worse than Bush also because he advances many policies that Bush would not have DARED to advance:
1.) Eliminate social security (eventually), the one meager social benefit we have left
2.) Open up the coasts to oil drilling (although that was repealed)
3.) Eliminate a entire host of benefits for the middle class: (1.) Eliminate tax deductibility of mortgage interest; (2.) Eliminate tax deductibility of premiums paid for employer-provided healthcare; (3.) Eliminate affordable 30-year home mortgages through the elimination of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (which Obama proposes).
4.)Cut back on Medicare, Medicaid etc. (I am sure that is one of his goals)
5.) Elimination of Internet freedom–slowly, like boiling a frog in hot water. I am sure Internet freedom, one the last things we still have, is on Obama’s target list. Give him 4 more years and he will be sure to take care of that.
It is now so bad that wasn’t there a poll after the elections that showed people trusted Republicans to defend Social Security more so than they trusted Democrats to defend SS? (That was a direct result of the actions of Obama and his commission.)
etc. etc.
Yes. Yes.
Considering cesspools did anyone other than few souls like me ever stop to read the Chicago Sun Times investigative report on Obama several years before he was elected to US Senate? His politics in Chicago were corrupt and self serving, and his mentor,fundraiser,and pal was Tony Rezko now serving time in jail for political corruption ala bigtime cesspool Chicago.
The investigative team on Rezko/Obama was widely read and known in Chicago and by those not smitten by the hype laid out by team Obama. I was more than aware of the sweatheart deal arranged by rezko for Obama so that he could aquire his minimansion right next doo to Rezko. But that was small stuff compared to the dealings and alliances, and the voting in the State Senate by Obama and the enabling of Rezko receiving federal funding to rehab slums that he never rehabbed. All BTW with Obama’s full knowledge for without Rezko Obama would never have become US Senator, let alone POTUS.
In fact the full political biography of Obama’s rise in Chicago with Rezko as mentor and funder is an eye opener. Did the press ever do their job regarding this when Obama ran for President?
Chris Matthews and his ilk fawned and drooled and never did their homework. No due diligence as Obama was speechifying. The democratic power elite were so anxious to stop Hillary that they knowingly knew they has a “salesman”. So teddy Kennedy anxious to be in control and knowing this would not be possible with Hillary decided Obama was there sure bet to win. Whatever his sins, aw shucks that’s just politics, and we’ll make it right.
The simple truth is that Obama is behaving as he always has. Deceptively and with deliberate opportunism and corruption. And he even has the luxury of basking as his critics can be accused of racism. The card played backwards.
Absoluely. Republicans let you know what their policies are, and Bush was proud of his positions. Yes they were undoubtedly corrupt and deceptive about torture as is Obama, except Obama has pretended and pretends to be a righteous leader and hopes for change, transparency and the the rest of his bull…t.
This is by far more dangerous as he pretends to be a transparent and enlightened leader when he has continued and even advanced Bush/Cheney policies. These are dangerous lies and lead to fascism or whatever twisted form of totalitarianism that this behavior breeds.
Obama has deceived us. His actions regarding Healthcare,Afghanistan and Iraq are more deplorable then Bush/Cheney and far more deceptive. Obama has manipulated the budget far more than Bush with regard to military spending, and this is only the beginning. Remember that the heavy duty Nuclear industry is based in Illinois and Obama has taken $$$ from them for a long while. He is beholden to Nuclear Development Giant in illinois, and again, it’s all in NYTimes archives and Chicago Sun times.
We are in trouble with this despicable administration. We should garner the facts and demonstrate, blog, and show up.
This was a great article. I look forward to impressing my friends with your thoughts presented as my own. :-)
Greenwald’s Salon article is wonderful. His comparisons re: Bush/Cheney offer factual insight as to Obama’s positions. Cheney approves of Obama’s acceptance that Bush policies were right.
Scary.
Pelosi was silent as Democrat, Rep. Stupak stuck it to women’s rights and helped to derail the equal protection clause granted women in RoevWade. The Council of Catholic Bishops was permitted to hold sway over the House as Pelosi did nothing to defend,control,speak out, and fight for woman’s right to choose.
This was a put up job to take even more away from women as it was already long settled law as was the entire issue [Hyde] of federal funds not being allowed for abortions. This was just the beginning. The cowardly Dems continued to say nothing when another Dem, Senator Nelson of Nebraska made it even harder for women seeking abortions. Now only the well off and connected could travel and go through the difficulties enacted to obtain abortions. Working women and poor women could not travel or afford to obtain abortions under the new conditions imposed by Nelson and the entire House and Senate.
No one spoke up for what has happened to women’s right to choose.
Pelosi is a fake and hardly a champion of women’s rights. She is a political hack whose game is power. Period. She was an enabler of Obama in every way possible and an uninspired and weak Speaker and leader.
Don’t forget the attack on public servants- teachers and nurses are mostly women.
Yes, he is worse than Bush. Because many on the alleged left no longer oppose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the torture of prisoners, the indefinite detention policies, and all manner of secret illegal goings-on now that he is president. He is more Teflon than Reagan in this regard, and his supporters on the “left” are accomplices in the ruin of this country and the murder of civilians overseas.
Electing Obama was like going to the Godiva shop, mouth watering, and choosing a big gold foil-covered box with a red ribbon, going home and opening it to find only a big, stinking turd inside.
Look at these news accounts; there are troubling allegations and very suspicious behavior by US officials that, taken together, indicate that our diplomatic rent-a-Rambo may have been involved in very serious crimes besides 3 murders, probably authorized at the highest levels. An independent counsel investigation is certainly warranted.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-22/world/pakistan.us.shooting_1_aslam-tareen-raymond-davis-pakistani-taliban?_s=PM:WORLD
http://tribune.com.pk/story/122238/raymond-davis-the-plot-thickens/
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/raymond-davis-had-taliban-links-pak-media-87066
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-02-22/news/28621594_1_raymond-davis-taliban-mobile-phones
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/03/raymond-daviss-cell-phone-had-calls.html
http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/2011/02/08/%E2%80%98raymond-davis%E2%80%99-is-linked-to-terrorism-in-pakistan/
http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/17/davis-buys-his-flight-to-freedom.html
You said you couldn’t find 20 people to march with you other than dumb-ass birthers. Well, I’m down, just find 19 more and let me know when and where.
Btw, Mr. Mod or whoever, the recommend button hasn’t worked for me in over a week. I keep getting an error message.
The tech crew is aware of the issue and are looking into it. A click on the ‘recommend’ button is still recorded correctly despite producing the error.
Thank you.
I wish I could have this printed as a letter to the editor of every newspaper in the country (I live in a rural area where many don’t even know what the Internet is, let alone have access to or an interest in it, so I think about ways to get into their minds, which have been so deadened by TV jabber, nonsense, and propaganda).
– excellent insights!
looks to me as some righty has control of what shows on this comment page
This is rich. No one listened as BHO moved about, during his campaign. He was vague, over promised on things most sane voters KNEW he couldn’t deliver on and he used, better than anyone, emotion to get himself elected. Buyers remorse is a terrible thing. I know because I was a victim of it in 2000. Don’t make the same mistake again. Be dispassionate and objective. Forget about the hype or the campaign slogans. “Change you can believe in.” Sounds like a detergent ad for cripe sakes. Grow up and look for what is best for the country and quit being so selfish. Was I talking to myself?
No, I have control of nothing on this site….as far as you know.
i actually agree
ssh – don’t tell everybody
right on – i learn from everybody else too
saturday march 19 noon white house
he’s even worse than advertised