Harry Truman spoke in the U.S. Senate on June 23, 1941: “If we see that Germany is winning,” he said, “we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible.”

The A-Bomb Dome in Hiroshima, Japan which remained intact amid the devastation of the bombing (Photo: Imahinasyon Photography / Flickr)
Did Truman value Japanese lives above Russian and German? There is nothing anywhere to suggest that he did. Yet we debate, every August 6th or so, whether Truman was willing to unnecessarily sacrifice Japanese lives in order to scare Russians with his nuclear bombs. He was willing; he was not willing; he was willing. Left out of this debate is the obvious possibility that killing as many Japanese as possible was among Truman’s goals.
A U.S. Army poll in 1943 found that roughly half of all GIs believed it would be necessary to kill every Japanese person on earth. William Halsey, who commanded the United States’ naval forces in the South Pacific during World War II, thought of his mission as “Kill Japs, kill Japs, kill more Japs,” and had vowed that when the war was over, the Japanese language would be spoken only in hell. War correspondent Edgar L. Jones wrote in the February 1946 Atlantic Monthly, “What kind of war do civilians suppose we fought anyway? We shot prisoners in cold blood, wiped out hospitals, strafed lifeboats, killed or mistreated enemy civilians, finished off the enemy wounded, tossed the dying into a hole with the dead, and in the Pacific boiled flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts, or carved their bones into letter openers.”
On August 6, 1945, President Truman announced: “Sixteen hours ago an American airplane dropped one bomb on Hiroshima, an important Japanese Army base. That bomb had more power than 20,000 tons of T.N.T. It had more than two thousand times the blast power of the British ‘Grand Slam’ which is the largest bomb ever yet used in the history of warfare.”Hiroshima was, of course, a city full of people, not an Army base. But those people were merely Japanese. Australian General Sir Thomas Blamey had told the New York Times: “Fighting Japs is not like fighting normal human beings. The Jap is a little barbarian…. We are not dealing with humans as we know them. We are dealing with something primitive. Our troops have the right view of the Japs. They regard them as vermin.”
Some try to imaginethat the bombs shortened the war and saved more lives than the some 200,000 they took away. And yet, weeks before the first bomb was dropped, on July 13, 1945, Japan sent a telegram to the Soviet Union expressing its desire to surrender and end the war. The United States had broken Japan’s codes and read the telegram. Truman referred in his diary to “the telegram from Jap Emperor asking for peace.” Truman had been informed through Swiss and Portuguese channels of Japanese peace overtures as early as three months before Hiroshima. Japan objected only to surrendering unconditionally and giving up its emperor, but the United States insisted on those terms until after the bombs fell, at which point it allowed Japan to keep its emperor.
Presidential advisor James Byrnes had told Truman that dropping the bombs would allow the United States to “dictate the terms of ending the war.” Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal wrote in his diary that Byrnes was “most anxious to get the Japanese affair over with before the Russians got in.” Truman wrote in his diary that the Soviets were preparing to march against Japan and “Fini Japs when that comes about.” Truman ordered the bomb dropped on Hiroshima on August 6thand another type of bomb, a plutonium bomb, which the military also wanted to test and demonstrate, on Nagasaki on August 9th. Also on August 9th, the Soviets attacked the Japanese. During the next two weeks, the Soviets killed 84,000 Japanese while losing 12,000 of their own soldiers, and the United States continued bombing Japan with non-nuclear weapons. Then the Japanese surrendered.
The United States Strategic Bombing Survey concluded that,”… certainly prior to 31 December, 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November, 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.” One dissenter who had expressed this same view to the Secretary of War prior to the bombings was General Dwight Eisenhower. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral William D. Leahy agreed: “The use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.”
Whatever dropping the bombs might possibly have contributed to ending the war, it is curious that the approach of threatening to drop them, the approach used during a half-century of Cold War to follow, was never tried. An explanation may perhaps be found in Truman’s comments suggesting the motive of revenge:
“Having found the bomb we have used it. We have used it against those who attacked us without warning at Pearl Harbor, against those who have starved and beaten and executed American prisoners of war, and against those who have abandoned all pretense of obeying international law of warfare.”
Truman doesn’t say he used the bomb to shorten the war or save lives. He says he used the bomb because he could. “Having found the bomb we have used it.” And he provides as reasons for having used it three characteristics of the people murdered: they (or their government) attacked U.S. troops, they (or their government) brutalized U.S. prisoners, and they (or their government) — and this is without any irony intended — oppose international law.
Truman could not, incidentally, have chosen Tokyo as a target — not because it was a city, but because we (or our government) had already reduced it to rubble.
The nuclear catastrophes may have been, not the ending of a World War, but the theatrical opening of the Cold War, aimed at sending a message to the Soviets. Many low and high ranking officials in the U.S. military, including commanders in chief, have been tempted to nuke more cities ever since, beginning with Truman threatening to nuke China in 1950. The myth developed, in fact, that Eisenhower’s enthusiasm for nuking China led to the rapid conclusion of the Korean War. Belief in that myth led President Richard Nixon, decades later, to imagine he could end the Vietnam War by pretending to be crazy enough to use nuclear bombs. Even more disturbingly, he actually was crazy enough. “The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? … I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes,” Nixon said to Henry Kissinger in discussing options for Vietnam.
I just want you to think, instead, about this poem:
Hiroshima
by Sherwood RossI am the Reverend Kiyoshi Tanimoto
A graduate of Emory College, Atlanta,
Pastor of the Methodist Church of Hiroshima
I was in a western suburb when the bomb struck
Like a sheet of sunlight.
Fearing for my wife and family
I ran back into the city
Where I saw hundreds and hundreds fleeing
Every one of them hurt in some way.
The eyebrows of some were burned off
Skin hung from their faces and hands
Some were vomiting as they walked
On some naked bodies the burns had made patterns
Of the shapes of flowers transferred
From their kimonos to human skin.
Almost all had their heads bowed
Looked straight ahead, were silent
And showed no expression whatever.
Under many houses I heard trapped people screaming
Crying for help but there were none to help
And the fire was coming.
I came to a young woman holding her dead baby
Who pleaded with me to find her husband
So he could see the baby one last time.
There was nothing I could do but humor her.
By accident I ran into my own wife
Both she and our child were alive and well.
For days I carried water and food to the wounded and the dying.
I apologized to them: “Forgive me,” I said, “for not sharing your burden.”
I am the Reverend Kiyoshi Tanimoto
Pastor of the Methodist Church of Hiroshima
I was in a western suburb when the bomb struck
Like a sheet of sunlight.



44 Comments

That kind of desperately brutal thinking was behind the RAF/USAAF terrorist bombing of Dresden in February 1945. Dresden was an open city, not a military target.
“In four raids between 13 February and 15 February 1945, 1,300 heavy bombers of the British Royal Air Force (RAF) and the United States Army Air Force (USAAF) dropped more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city. The resulting firestorm destroyed 15 square miles (39 square kilometres) of the city centre and caused thousands of civilian casualties.” wiki
Tens of thousands of civilians were murdered in Dresden and other Geman cities by terror bombings.
http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/gif__01__Dresden_Bomb_Victims_cu83A6.jpg
True that
http://www.city.hiroshima.lg.jp/www/genre/0000000000000/1001000000027/index.html
Powerful. Rec’d. Thank you.
As you sow, so shall you reap.
The Japanese and Germans merely got what they so rightly deserved.
And pity for those barbaric savages?
Not a chance.
I would have followed Roosevelt’s and Churchill’s advisors and given those monsters the Carthaginian cure in response to their attempt to murder the world.
The interesting point about you diary is that you appear to voice no pity for the millions of victims of Japan’s and Germany’s bestial atrocities.
Instead you ask your readers to have pity for the poor darling monsters.
Your words are but dust in the wind, full of sound and fury signifying nothing, absolutely nothing.
Thank you David. This accurate, objective account is what should be in the US History books that are the basis for teaching our students, rather than the rah rah BS propaganda that feeds the concept of exceptionalism that is so rampant in this country of ignorant fools typified by the commenter @5.
Your first sentence is from the Bible, is it not? Of course you follow that with a diatribe filled with hatred of the “other”. Jesus would be so proud of your adherence to his teachings.
It’s that good ole righteous rage. We need a totem to remember it’s insanity.
Thank you David, for your focus on this madness.
“Jesus would be so proud of your adherence to his teachings.”
Jesus? Jesus who?
Oh, you mean Horus (Egyptian sun god of about 3000 B.C.E.), and I will let Thomas Paine respond to your nonsense about Jesus:
“The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally paid to the sun.” Thomas Paine 1737-1809
Oh, by the way, have you been talking again to the tooth fairy and ghosts and spirits?
Would appear to be right up your alley.
What is insanity to one, is often the laughter of the gods to another.
You would appear to have the same symptoms as the writer of this diary: Pity for the monsters and silence about their victims.
And yes, a totem pole is an excellent notion.
We can place the chimera of murder, barbarity, and genocide at the top.
And each time we gaze upon its visage we will think of your heroes of WWII.
The Japanese lost the war on December 7, 1941. Never in history did a country pick a fight with the largest economy (US), the largest empire (British), the most populous country (China) and the largest military (USSR). And certainly not simultaneously.
At the start of the war, Japan’s GNP was 3% of the total GNP and the US’ was about 30%. By the end of the war Japan did not have enough ships to keep their economy going AND feed their people.
The Japanese had war gamed the war and determined that the US would conquer Japan sometime between late 1944 and early 1946. Their government squashed the results of that gaming.
The arrogance of the Japanese government meant that they could not surrender. The Japanese cabinet had a chance to end the war after the first bomb dropped. But they decided to delay the meeting for a few more days. To his credit, the Emperor did what Hitler refused to do, he surrendered before his country was totally destroyed.
If I were Truman, I would have made the same calculus. Two B-29 bomber crews for the chance to shock Japan into surrendering was well worth it. The US Army was expecting one million casualties in the land campaign against Japan.
You’re about 80 years old? What is the origin of your exceptional and mad hatred?
Haven’t we gone through this before?
Hi David (and doremus35 @5), regarding Truman’s “Having found the bomb” speech, you can hear a recording of him giving it at the beginning of the BBC youtube I embedded in a 2010 comment on Daily Kos, where I also included a PBS link to more excerpts from that radio address:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/867919/36021301
I remember being shocked the first time I heard it — it applied so plainly to us now.
Another shock, I was recently amazed to learn of more “poetry” about the bombs we dropped on Japan — they may have been made with uranium we seized from a German submarine in May 1945 that was headed to Japan for Japan’s atomic program.
i am german american, my grandfather and 16 yr old uncle were pulled out of their house never to be seen again. tha nazis were bruttle and got what they deserved. the common people who supported the nazis got what they deserved also. the casualities in dresden which exceeded those of hiroshima were high due to all the refugees fleeing the russian advance. the japanese and the germans brought their own ruin upon themselves… of course the nazis would never hsd gotten control of germany without the support of right wing interests here and in england
My upshot from all of this is that it’s no surprise that violence begets violence endlessly. But I imagine the Japanese people would be as astonished and heartsick to learn of their country’s atomic bomb program and plans to use it as the American people were of ours. And it’s all done in our names! And we never know until it’s too late! I blame secrecy and paranoia and all the “righteous” atrocities and stupidity that enables. Stop. Just stop.
Reading comprehension is not his strong point. He must have missed the part that Japan contacted the Soviets in advance of this atrocity to express its desire to surrender, and that this was known by the US govt.
As for doremus35, perhaps the source of it’s “exceptional” hatred is due to the inability to extricate it’s head from it’s large intestine.
The destruction of Dresden was due to the firebombing by the Allied Forces who couldn’t have cared less that the majority of those targeted were civilians. Your statement implies that the deaths were due to the people being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s absurd.
You’re the one who quoted the Bible, not I. I’m loathe to use this term to describe anyone, but it seems appropriate considering your comments. You are the definition of an assclown.
if you knew anything about dresden you would know that the number of casualities greatly exceeded the regular population numbers because of a tremendous build up of refugees from the east who were trying to get away from the russians. i never implied anything other than those poor bastards went from the frypan into the fire which was very unlucky for them.
Go back and read what you wrote. If Dresden hadn’t been subjected to the firebombing by the Allies, how many of those people would have died from not being bombed?
80? Not even close.
Exceptional? Actually not.
Mad hatred? Obviously a matter upon which we differ.
I call them the way I see them.
No more and surely no less.
Perhaps more to the point I have lectured at the university level on comparative religion and the Holocaust.
I spoke to many Chinese university students in China about the excruciatingly painful details of the Japanese occupation.
I taught in Israel and spoke to survivors about the Holocaust.
I lost family in the Holocaust and am named after one of the victims.
I adopted a Chinese orphan.
And I am a voluminous reader and addicted to the pursuit of knowledge.
All of which has led me to the inescapable conclusion that if a creature has webbed feet, white feathers, and an orange bill there’s a damn good chance it belongs to the bird family (the Platypus gets a free pass on the foot and bill business- another of ‘god’s’ little jokes-but what do you expect in six days?).
“As for doremus35, perhaps the source of it’s “exceptional” hatred is due to the inability to extricate it’s head from it’s large intestine.”.
“You are the definition of an assclown.”
May Jesus forgive you, for you know not what you are saying.
You know, there are plenty of experts on the Holocaust and the Japanese invasion of China (and rape of Nanjing) that don’t carry around “race”-hatred. You can even find Jews who’ve lost relatives in the Holocaust who’ve made it past trauma-induced fear and loathing.
You, on the other hand, treasure that trauma. Would you say this is a personal or familial characteristic?
Your obsession is disturbing.
All of that knowledge without wisdom. Sad. Victimhood.
Is it possible for you to disagree with someone without calling them names? Because your commenting history suggests it is not…
You seem to be quite knowledgable. Just a question…would you applaud several nuclear bombs dropped on the United States due to our monstrous history of invasions including genocide of native people here just as bad as the holocaust the last 400 years give or take a few? You felt in the 1940s the japanese and german civilians got what they deserved in Dresden and Hiroshima. Would you just favor a mass killing of civilians in the United States by any foreign entity due to our historical actions??
I think a lot of people forget, (or choose not to remember), that Truman was abiding by the accords that were laid down by the three major allies, calling for Japan to surrender unconditionally and to EVERYBODY, not separately to the allied powers as individuals. Truman could have ignored that unilaterally of course and tried to make a separate peace or Russia could have ignored those accords and accepted Japan’s peace overtures but both of those scenarios would have risked a war between the allied powers, which already didn’t trust each other. In fairness, Truman wanted to drop the bomb because he didn’t trust Russia’s imperial ambitions and by doing so, it rendered help from Russia in the Pacific unnecessary. I’m not justifying nuking anybody in any way and I sure as hell don’t support slaughtering a bunch of civilians ever and it’s abominable that part of the reason they died was so one world power could make a point to another but it’s important to put it into context.
Also I’ve seen Curtis LeMay’s name cited as being opposed to the atomic bombs in some of these annual hand wringing exercises, (not this one though thankfully), but it’s also important to remember that LeMay had a dog in that fight, specifically his promise to “win the war by October” using tactical saturation bombing with conventional explosives and incendiaries. It’s only fair to mention in this discussion that LeMay’s strategy killed thousands more Nihonjin than did both atomic bombs combined.
Again, I shouldn’t have to post this disclaimer but judging by the tone of some of the comments, I’d be foolish not to: This comment should not be interpreted to mean that I support using nuclear weapons or that I find justification in killing school children and other civilians, just that I find a discussion of history without some very salient facts to be a little bit lopsided. I was born fully 15 years after the end of WWII and my service consisted of being an airframe mechanic whose highest rate was AMS2, (E-5), some I’m not qualified to render a judgment. I don’t think there is anybody else here that is qualified to deliver a verdict either. We all have opinions on this subject and sometimes some very strong ones but that shouldn’t justify the calling of names or disparaging of motives of people with whom we disagree.
It’s not about Truman.
Interesing photo. Even more interesting is the web page that contains it: I Cried Tears For Dresden.
Half way down the page is the following mashup:
Other topics:
To quote Lynyrd Skynyrd: The smell of death surrounds you.
The government wanted a city that hadn’t been bombed before so they could see the damage the bomb did. The reason Hiroshima hadn’t been bombed is because it was Japan’s largest POW camp so we dropped the bomb on 12,000 POW’s; but we made it up to them the one’s that survived got free medical treatment for life at the Houston VA. Of course it also let them study the effects of long term radiation problems.
“Would you say this is a personal or familial characteristic?”
Comrade:
I was there.
I was in the camps and watched the conveyor belt of death.
I watched in one 24 hour period 25,000 Hungarian Jews gassed, burned, and then unceremoniously tossed in the River next to Auschwitz –Birkenau or dumped on fields 13 feet deep in ashes.
I stood in line in Babi Yar for two days watching the Jews lie down in a mass grave and then machined gunned to death-men, women, children, babies in mothers arms.
I ran with the naked young Chinese and Korean girls in the marching Japanese army when they were pulled viciously onto the side of the road, raped, and then mandatorily bayoneted.
I watched the American prisoners of war in the Philippines forced into shelters and then had gasoline poured on them and watched them screaming in their death throes.
I watched Chinese civilians tied together and then buried alive.
I watched the beheading contest in Nanjing and saw the heads on stakes staring into eternity.
I was there.
I was there in my mind and heart.
I feel their terror and misery.
I am a human being among other human beings.
Never, again, never!
These and untold other images haunt me every day.
And you have the audacity to ask me:
“Would you say this is a personal or familial characteristic?”
And the answer Res ipsa loguitur:
The family of man.
Which of course requires the asking of the question: What form of carbon based life do you call family?
What goes around comes around.
When it’s the United States’ turn to pay the piper for our sins and omissions, the streets will run in blood.
The Norse goddess Weird (Fate) will have her pound of flesh.
I wonder if Charon takes American Express?
I find it interesting that you see fit to reprimand me for ridiculing someone whose comments justify the eradication of innocent civilians by the US war machine with the rationalization that the entire nations were responsible/complicit in the actions of their governments and their armed forces. He depicts these people as barbaric savages who merited the Carthaginian cure. I “insult” one person who recommends genocide and you admonish me.
Keep this in mind when you read US history propaganda. History is written by the victors, not the victims, and the victims remember while the victors forget.
Translation: Nazi Germany will rise again.
In the name of Man you curse the Jap and Hun (of yesterday?). Sorry, comrade, that will not fly.
In Hebrew?
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You’re projecting, Randy. And I think it flew right over your flat head.
Not projecting at all, Luddy baby.
Actually I read that in a book by Eduardo Galeano, with whom I’m sure you are not familiar. He speaks for those oppressed by the sanctimonious Western powers.
Your translation is inane.
Peruse the link I provided at comment # 32 and then tell me how inane my translation was.