
A drone (Photo: Charles McCain / Flickr)
A writer at the Atlantic named Conor Friedersdorf recently noted the level of evil many have been brought to support:
“Tell certain liberals and progressives that you can’t bring yourself to vote for a candidate who opposes gay rights, or who doesn’t believe in Darwinian evolution, and they’ll nod along. Say that you’d never vote for a politician caught using the ‘n’-word, even if you agreed with him on more policy issues than his opponent, and the vast majority of left-leaning Americans would understand. But these same people cannot conceive of how anyone can discern Mitt Romney’s flaws, which I’ve chronicled in the course of the campaign, and still not vote for Obama. Don’t they see that Obama’s transgressions are worse than any I’ve mentioned? I don’t see how anyone who confronts Obama’s record with clear eyes can enthusiastically support him. I do understand how they might concluded that he is the lesser of two evils, and back him reluctantly, but I’d have thought more people on the left would regard a sustained assault on civil liberties and the ongoing, needless killing of innocent kids as deal-breakers.”
Not long ago, I attended a speech by Obama, along with thousands of his adoring cheerleaders formerly known as citizens. I asked him to stop killing people in Afghanistan, and the Secret Service asked me to leave. But, just now, I got a phone call from the local Obama office. They had my name because I’d picked up a ticket to attend the speech. The young woman wanted to know if I would come help phone other people. I asked if she was familiar with the president’s kill list and his policy of killing men, women, and children with drones. She said she knew nothing about that but “respected my opinion.” She hung up. Objecting to presidential murder is now an opinion, and willingness to be aware of its existence is an appendage to the opinion. If you don’t object to presidential murder by Democrat, then you simply arrange not to know about it. Thus, in your opinion, it doesn’t exist.
Some of my friends at this moment are in Pakistan apologizing to its government and its people for the endless murderous drone war fought there by our country. They’re meeting with victims’ families. They’re speaking publicly in opposition to the crimes of our government. And my neighbors, living in some other universe, believe most fundamentally, not that one candidate will save us, not that the two parties are fundamentally opposed, not that a citizen’s job is to vote, not that war is all right if it’s meant well — although they clearly believe all of those things — but, most fundamentally, they believe that unpleasant facts should simply be avoided. So, in a spirit of afflicting the comfortable to comfort the afflicted, here are a few from recent days:
WAR IS A LIE
We know that in the past “defensive” wars have been intentionally launched by fraud or provocation. We know that many in our government want a war with Iran. We know that several years ago then-Vice President Dick Cheney proposed disguising U.S. ships as Iranian and attacking other U.S. ships with them. We know that then-President George W. Bush proposed disguising a plane as belonging to the United Nations, flying it low, and trying to get Iraq to shoot at it. We know that there was no Gulf of Tonkin incident, no evidence that Spain attacked the Maine, no doubt that the weapons and troops on board the Lusitania were public knowledge, no question that FDR worked hard to provoke an attack by Japan, and so on. And we know that Iran has not attacked another nation in centuries. So, it almost goes without saying that Washington warmongers are contemplating ways to get Iran to make the “first move.” Assassinating scientists hasn’t worked, blowing up buildings doesn’t seem to do it, cyber-war isn’t blossoming into real war, sanctions are not sanctioning armed resistance, and dubious accusations of Iranian terrorism aren’t sticking. Exactly what do we have to do to get ourselves innocently attacked by the forces of evil?
The Israel Lobby to the rescue! Patrick Clawson, Director of Research at the Washington Institute Of Near East Policy, blurted out the following on video this week:
“Crisis initiation is really tough. And it’s very hard for me to see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran. . . . The traditional way America gets to war is what would be best for U.S. interests. Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into World War II . . . . You may recall, we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War I. You may recall that he had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnam. You may recall he had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the Maine exploded. And Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the federal army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians had said would cause an attack. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war. . . . I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean, look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down. Someday one of them might not come up. Who would know why? [LAUGHTER FROM AUDIENCE] . . . . We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier.”
This is serious advocacy for manufacturing a “defensive” and “humanitarian” war. This is not a war critic or a Yes Men prankster. The position of most elected officials in Washington, including the President, fits well with this. That position includes the ultimatum that Iran must cease doing what U.S. National Intelligence Estimates say it is not doing, namely building nuclear weapons. The goal at the bottom of all of this is war. The purpose of the war is not related to any of the excuses for it. The purpose is something else entirely. But it’s ugly, so it’s easier not to look.
HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION
We often forget that war is the worst thing there is. Hence our government’s shift in policy back to outsourcing a lot of the torture and insourcing the “cleaner” approach of assassination without torture. Hence, also, our common fantasy that war can be used to solve a problem that is somehow worse than war.
We also forget that torturing people can be crueler than experimenting on them. Torture has been given an acceptance in the United States during the past decade that “human experimentation” has not. So, we are still capable of a bit of shock when a story comes out like this one: During the 1950s and 1960s the U.S. Army sprayed zinc cadmium sulfide, apparently including radioactive particles, in poor neighborhoods in St. Louis and other cities, to test the results on the people who unknowingly breathed it.
At the end of World War II, the U.S. military’s Operation Paperclip brought nearly 500 Nazi scientists to the United States to work on U.S. weaponry. Many view their influence on the nascent military industrial complex as critical to its sadistic and sociopathic tendencies ever since. In fairness to the Nazis, it’s possible that they simply fit in well, serving the military of a nation with a long history of genocide, slavery, torture, and public deception.
I came across a member of Veterans For Peace this week who’s been struggling many years as a result of experimental vaccines and drugs given to hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers during the Gulf War. We also learned this week that every prisoner in the Guantanamo death camp has been given experimental drugs without their knowledge or at least without their consent.
And then there’s this: “Congressional Probe Reveals Cover-Up of ‘Auschwitz-Like’ Conditions at US-Funded Afghan Hospital“:
“A congressional investigation has revealed a top U.S. general in Afghanistan sought to stall an investigation into abuse at a U.S.-funded hospital in Kabul that kept patients in, quote, ‘Auschwitz-like’ conditions. Army whistleblowers revealed photographs taken in 2010 which show severely neglected, starving patients at Dawood Hospital, considered the crown jewel of the Afghan medical system, where the country’s military personnel are treated. The photos show severely emaciated patients, some suffering from gangrene and maggot-infested wounds. For TV viewers of Democracy Now!, please be warned: these images are extremely graphic and may be disturbing.”
NOTHING MORE EVIL
Here’s what I’m trying to get at. If you try to think of something more evil than what we are now doing, you’ll fail. Name your evil: destroying the earth’s climate? President Barack Obama flew to Copenhagen to single-handedly derail any process for protecting the earth’s atmosphere. The only way in which to fantasize about greater evil is quantitative, not qualitative. We could drop more bombs. We could starve more children. We could experiment on more prisoners. In fact, this is what Lesser Evilism amounts to. A Lesser Evilist today is not choosing less evil policies, but the same policies in what he or she hopes will be lesser amounts.
That might be a rational calculation within a polling place. But living it prior to and after an election, apologizing and cheering for one of two teams, as if self-governance were a spectator sport, is nothing other than complicity in the most hideous forms of cruelty and murder. That complicity is insidious. Evil begins to look like something else, because the Lesser Evilist, within his or her own mind, comes to view the Lesser Evil forces as good, if not glorious, if not saintly.



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After an American Commander freed a German concentration camp in World War II, he was so shocked that he forced a near by town to walk through and observe it. Though Germans later said they had no idea, we Americans have felt superior for over half a century about it.
We will have far less excuse than the Germans for destroying the world wide economy, the constitution, encouraging torture, and very likely making the environment much less habitable for future generations. The information is all in the open and people who are trying to spread it are often openly arrested. Republicans, then democrats, then astro-turfed organizations like the Sierra Club and 350 all make excuses for what is, as David says, Evil.
Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason. Ovid 10 BCE
Knowing full well that documenting evil seldom -if ever – overcomes irrational feelings, I still will try with the following.
Civil Rights – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/09/civil-rights-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Economy – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/10/economy-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Economic Graphs – http://newprogs.org/blog/2012/03/02/economic-graphs
Education – http://newprogs.org/blog/2012/01/14/education-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Environment – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/08/environment-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Health Care – http://newprogs.org/blog/2012/04/03/health-care-under-democraticrepublican-uniparty
Transparency – http://newprogs.org/blog/2012/02/27/transparency-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Unions – http://newprogs.org/blog/2012/02/05/unions-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
War – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/11/wars-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Whistleblowers – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/09/whistleblowers-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
Thank you for this.
David, and goNPA, great as usual. To quote of all people Chalton Heston, “it’s a mad house, a mad house!”
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You post exactly describes how I feel about the behavior of my country and the commitments of my leaders. Where is their morality? How can they jump from starving 500,000 – 1,000,000 Iraqi CHILDREN since 1990 (“It was worth it”) to starving and murdering Iranian children? How much misery are we bringing to the Afghanistani and Pakistani people, bombing goat herding children and children harvesting vegetables? Why is Obama not frothing at the mouth, demanding our killing of innocents stop? I would be.
I am deeply ashamed of the men who currently are running for office in our main two parties, and of all the Congresspeople and rich and important people who are enabling their shameful lack of morality. They are monsters and I will never vote for one such.
Bravo. Nothing else to say.
I think there is something else to say…9/11.
Thank you DS …excellent…needs to be seen and said …commendable…
Outstanding post, well done.
Tell me how how anything anyone does in the voting booth this November puts an end to this significant evil. The same is true of those lesser evils that you name as well. The problem that we face is not electoral.
it’s a con game isn’t it? Not even a very complicated one.
Thanks very much for this and all your work.
When it comes to choosing our presidents, it may come down to picking the candidate whom you think will kill fewer people. My choice is Obama, although I acknowledge its a matter of guesswork. He is clearly less popular with Netanyahu than Romney, so that makes him less likely to start a new US war on Iran. He is already moving troops out of Afghanistan and is likely to finish up on schedule, no matter what happens. And he is more likely than Romney to push for some kind of action on climate change, however small, and climate change is on target to kill many millions. So, by my calculation, Obama is the lesser of two evils. In politics that is often the only choice you get, and I cant think of many examples from history where that has not been true.
Why do you limit yourself to two evil choices? Third party candidates will never have a chance unless we start voting for them. And voting for a third party tells Obama what you support (and what you’re against) a heck of a lot better than voting for him does. He’ll take your vote as 100% endorsement of his every thought and action.
Thanks, David, and rec’d.
I’m voting for Jill Stein.
You won’t mind if I go ahead and vote third party anyway, would you?
Just for the hell of it, of course.
The person I’ve been quoting the most lately is Glen Ford. As he said, Obama is the most effective evil.
No matter how evil Romney might want to be, he wouldn’t have the Democrats, unions, and so-called progressive organizations sitting in his lap. They’d make things difficult for him.
Not that it matters to me beyond interesting speculation. I’m voting third party all down the line.
Me, too!
My question wasn’t directed at you but at Valatius. It’s clear you aren’t voting for Obama or Romney.
I know Stein won’t win, but my conscience will feel a whole lot better when I vote for her.
I’m a Jill Stein voter as well.
I just don’t get people like Cornell West who spent the last few years going slamming Obama then he say he’s gonna vote for obama cause romney is scarier.
It’s like the old song. You gotta put your money where your mouth is, or you aint saying nothing.
Given the two candidates and assuming Romney will be like Bush, your clear choice is Romney if you go by verifiable references and not your gut feeling of what a nice family Obama has. See for almost 50 references War – http://newprogs.org/blog/2011/11/11/wars-under-democraticrepublican-uni-party
But there are other choices: Stein, Anderson, Alexander.
Further, you completely missed this point by the author.
Anyone considering voting for Obama would do well to consider the following MyFDL article. http://my.firedoglake.com/bfscr/2012/10/01/why-are-they-so-frightened-of-us/
Not at all. Just don’t have any illusions about it.
It could be argued, and successfully so, that 9/11 was blowback.
Well said.
Agreed. Both are so far below minimum standards of decency and I will not vote for them.
As to Cornel West (and others who unlike me will vote for Obama), his advocacy probably matters a lot more than his vote. As long as you are pushing against this stuff, as I am too, you have more in common with me than someone who may vote for Jill Stein but who does ONLY that. I think we can get too bent out of shape about the actual vote, when our actions – do we try to confront those in power and push them in a better direction – matter much more.
Good point, goNPA, even though I won’t vote for either. But I can see how someone could on the basis you cite.
Only if you did not look into it any further than what you told by the Bush Administration and the MSM.
Here is the one of the most popular videos at the Natioanl PBS website today that I suggest you see: 9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out
Thanks for your comment it bothers me when people think they only have two choices. I voted Peace & Freedom in 68, I’m voting Green this time, change has to start somewhere.
Thanks David
Thanks for the link and here’s one along those lines.
http://www.drjudywood.com/
It’s sad and painful, though, to watch people whose work you otherwise find well-reasoned contort their positions to justify voting for Obama.
Digby is a prime example. In her latest post she quotes Noam Chomsky (who’s voting for Stein) and Howie Klein (who lives in California like Digby, and is not voting for Obama), both of whom argue — in the very links she quotes! — for voting third party in non-swing states. She says that she agrees with them, and they agree with her, and therefore … she will vote for Obama. WTF?
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/alternet-is-featuring-interview-with.html
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Yes, war is a lie. And the warriors always come up with stories in which *they* are the oppressed, the victims, the resolute souls fighting for justice. Return with me to those thrilling days of yesteryear…(September 1, 1939):
(I’ll give Hitler one thing; he was a hell of a speechmaker…)
As heinous as Obama’s decision to bomb and starve non-Americans around the world is, you might (if you were determined enough) be able to wrap all that in the fig leaf of “defending American interests”, “he’s doing what he has to do to protect us” and all the other nonsense Leaders spew to “justify” their war crimes. But his crimes against his own people (the murders of Anwar al-Awlaki, Samir Khan, 16-year-old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki (all US natives); the ongoing torture of Bradley Manning), that is what places Obama for me, beyond the moral pale. I can think of nothing more anti-patriotic that re-electing a President who murders and tortures American citizens without anything resembling the Rule of Law. JMO.
Peace.
Well, it will make me feel a darn sight better than my 2008 vote (and fundraising and GOTV) for Obama now does, in retrospect. I may have made myself an accessory-before-the-fact to murder four years ago; allow me the small pleasure of voting against the PoTUS (Piece of Thoroughly Unscrupulous Shit) this time, if you don’t mind.
All of us who voted for Obama have blood on our hands, no doubt.
As a believer in affirmative action I thought a person of color deserved a shot at the job and I let that cloud my better judgment in retrospect. What a wasted opportunity for the first President of color to be such a huge disappointment.
Obviously, this “polemic” is being utilized to justify his [Friederdorf] voting for the current Libertarian Party candidate. As such, nothing “new” to see here. Now, imagine that the soon-to-be President was a candidate for the Libertarian Party, and where would America be in 2013 and the years that follow?
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Well said, timesthree. And Glenn Ford needs a gigantic megaphone, he’s essential these days.
Well said, David. imho, the moment you start measuring Evil to find the acceptable level is the moment you’ve crossed over the line. We’re conditioned and trained through years of brainwashing to hold no personal opinion on where the line is. We need authoritarian males to point that line out and we will agree.
However, ‘m going to vote for Pot, Marriage Equality, another bullshit Dem governor.
But, mostly Pot and Equality, just to make sure the exit polls are loud and clear.
As someone commented on another site: people can be forgiven for voting for Obama 2008, because they didn’t know who he really was. People who vote for him this time around are complicit in his crimes.
I’ll join you in your future-gazing:
Just as likely better off, as not.
It would at least shine the spotlight on our ever-expanding journey into fascist imperialism and force both the Dems and the Repubs to talk about it publicly.
Democrats, unions, and self-described progressive organizations would oppose any attempts to enact policy that would hurt the poor and middle class, wouldn’t they? Well, surely, they would, wouldn’t they? Hey, who’s doing that snickering?!?
When the next Democeratic President,goes even further right than Obama, you will have endorsed that rightward lurch as well.
One segment of the population give the right unconditional support. Much of the other segment of the population votes Democratic out of fear that a Republican might win. It’s a horror show.
All that’s really “new” is that the so-called “Democratic” politicians have been totally bought off and co-opted by the 1% to do their fascist bidding.
I well recall Team USA’s oppressions in Central & South America in the 1960s and 1970s. Care to recall how Salvadore Allende was legitimately elected in a fair, democratic voting process?? And what happened after that, when the CIA effected a very very bloody coup in order to “protect” Team USA BigCorp interests in Chile.
We ALL have had blood on our collective hands since the beginning of this nation. Just ask any Native Americans about that! Remember Manifest Destiny? They used to teach that back in the day with some glib abandon, AS IF it exculpated all White Europeans from any responsibility for what happened in Team USA back in the day. I have no idea if Manifest Destiny is even taught in our crappy and failing schools anymore bc it’s clear that the 1% wants a dumbed down and cowed under populace to be wage slaves & worse for them.
I’ve OFTEN voted Third Party as a protest vote, and I’ve OFTEN been yelled at, derided, chastised and worse for doing so… more often by so-called “progressives” than rightwingers. I’ve watched with mounting dismay how co-opted and authoritarian the so-called “left” has become in Team USA.
During the “heady” days of the Anti-Viet Nam War movement, there was a growing glimmer of interest in how Team USA operated overall, not just in regard to the fake-out “Domino Theory” used to ram WAR, Inc down our throats with Viet Nam.
At one time, there was some glimmering “interest” in the CIA back Pinochet coup in Chile, including some Hollywood films, like Missing, that dramatized events. I can remember discussing such issues with leftie pals in Team USA, and there were some protests about this coup, as well as protests against events in Nicaragua & El Salvador.
Nowadays? Pretty much I get crickets, or I have friends I respect, who are such Obamabot apologists looking to *blame* everything on the evil dastardly Repubs, who are the repository of all evil, that we have to agree to never ever talk about politics… just like it is with my rightwing family, who pretty much just mirror my so-called “leftie” friends in their authoritarian batshit nutty fundie Tea Party craziness.
Absolutely NONE of ‘em gives one flying fig about WAR, Inc, drones, dead and maimed people in other countries, property destruction, etc. Twas ever thus in Team USA. Citizens have been carefully taught to be self-serving & self-absorbed. My family & friends are mostly amongst the fortunate who are still “making it” in this once great, but now destroyed, nation, so they choose to turn their heads and look the other way and pretty much say to the rest of the world: kiss my ass.
I see precious little difference between RMoney & DMoney. They both serve the same teeny group of ever-greedier, sociopathic psycopaths in the 1% and/or the .0001%. Clearly those shits don’t give a shit about ANYTHING, other than to worship Mamon.
When I cast my vote this year, it will be for a third party. No, I don’t expect “sparkle ponies,” nor do I feel it will do very much other than be one tiny means where I can express my loathing and disgust for how very very LOW the mighty have fallen. It’s the least I can do.
I have always and will always have very much BLOOD on my hands in this particular life time. That will never change. The least I can do is acknowledge that fact, and do the tiniest thing in protest.
That’s my take, and I’m sticking to it.
Thanks for a thoughtful post. Like minds may disagree, but one can only hope that in forums such as FDL we can exhange our ideas without too much rancour and petty put-downs.
Wish that I could recommend the post of DS many times over.
I will vote for Jill Stein, though I fully expect Obama to win and, if not Obama, then Romney. So, none of the three choices I perceive myself as having is a good one.
That is a very difficult thing to accept, so I can understand why so many seem to think that voting for Obama accomplishes something positive.
As long as they do that, though, they are helping move the country further right.
I cannot be party to that any longer. (no pun intended).
A good showing for leftist candidates may wake up the Democratic Party and check its relentless rightward moverment.
If not, at least I did not vote to endorse evil.
Noam Chomsky:
You quote Chomsky to repudiate his stand and illustrate how co-opted he is, am I right?
I mean, surely you can’t be thinking that “Well, Chomsky sez we need to stand up for Obama” is going to be a persuasive argument, can you?