The presidential election of 2004 left much to be desired. Millions of votes were suppressed, and the evidence is overwhelming that votes were flipped by interested parties. Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman summarize:
“The widespread use of electronic voting machines from ES&S, and of Diebold software maintained by Triad, allowed [Ohio Secretary of State Ken] Blackwell to electronically flip a 4% Kerry lead to a 2% Bush victory in the dead of election night. ES&S, Diebold and Triad were all owned or operated by Republican partisans. The shift of more than 300,000 votes after 12:20 a.m. election night was a virtual statistical impossibility. It was engineered by Michael Connell, an IT specialist long affiliated with the Bush Family. Blackwell gave Connell’s Ohio-based GovTech the contract to count Ohio’s votes, which was done on servers housed in the Old Pioneer Bank Building in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Thus the Ohio vote tally was done on servers that also carried the e-mail for Karl Rove and the national Republican Party. Connell died in a mysterious plane crash in December, 2008, after being subpoenaed in the King-Lincoln-Bronzeville federal lawsuit focused on how the 2004 election was decided (disclosure: we were attorney and plaintiff in that suit). Diebold’s founder, Walden O’Dell, had vowed to deliver Ohio’s electoral votes—and thus the presidency—to his friend George W. Bush. That it was done in part on electronic voting machines and software O’Dell happened to own (Diebold has since changed hands twice) remains a cautionary red flag for those who believe merely winning the popular vote will give Barack Obama a second term.”
There are no doubt honest people who have looked at the evidence and disagree that the election was stolen in 2004. There might even be — although I can’t imagine how — people who have looked at Ohio 2004 and concluded that what went down was a respectable electoral process up to all international standards and beyond all possibility of doubt. I’m even willing to concede that someone somewhere honestly thinks allowing private companies to count our votes on computers in a manner that can never be verified is a reasonable approach to democratic self-governance, given the complete absence from all recent history of any private company ever engaging in any questionable practice that might radically increase its profits.
But, according to a credible report from 2005, one key person who eventually came to understand that Ohio was stolen was the candidate from whom it was stolen: John Kerry. Kerry reportedly said that he did not want to speak out about this because he would be accused of being a sore loser. His running mate John Edwards, who — by various accounts — opposed conceding the election in 2004, has since been disgraced as an adulterer. Let’s set aside for the moment the question of whether adultery is worse than election theft. What I want to know is this: would allowing the 2012 election to be stolen be a price worth paying to avoid the unpleasantness of John Kerry being called a sore loser on tee-vee?
Why would the 2012 election be stolen? Well, there is the matter of the 2012 primaries. And then there are the basic facts as laid out by the least likely media outlet in the world to twist them in favor of my argument: Fox News. Again, let Fitrakis-Wasserman, or Wassrakis for short, summarize:
“Despite an almost total blackout from the corporate media, the Romney family has a personal ownership (through the investment firms Solamere and H.I.G. Capital) in Hart Intercivic, which owns, maintains, programs and will tabulate alleged votes on machines in the critical swing states of Ohio, Florida, Virginia and Colorado. Despite various official disclaimers, the election could be decided on Hart machines producing ‘vote counts’ with little connection to how 18 million people actually voted. It is inconceivable that the Romney chain of ownership in Hart Intercivic will not influence how that goes. … [T]here is no legally binding way by which a professionally rigged electronic vote count can be overturned or even definitively discovered except through the use of unabridged but legally inconsequential exit polling. Scytl, a Barcelona-based e-voting company, has been contracted to count votes in 26 states through the easily rigged Federal Overseas Voting Program. FVAP is ostensibly geared to let military and other overseas Americans vote absentee by electronic means. But Scytl is positioned to intercept and redistribute such overseas electronic votes as needed through its spyware sister company, CarrierIQ. In a close race, these ‘votes’ can be distributed at will to make the difference in critical swing states. Other key voting machine companies, such as ES&S, Dominion, Command Central and more, are controlled by major corporations, some of whose owners are outspoken in their support for the Republican Party. … Republicans hold the governorships in the nine critical swing states of Florida, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico and Arizona. They also hold the secretaries of state offices in all of those states but Wisconsin. Electronically flipping the vote count in any or all of them, with Hart Intercivic, Scytl, Dominion or other technologies, can be done quickly, simply and invisibly, with no public recourse.”
Perhaps you’re thinking that just because a crime can be undetectably committed is no reason to create the slanderous idea that it would be. However, we are dealing here with people already, beyond any question, disenfranchising millions by throwing away registration forms, stripping registration rolls, instructing voters to vote on the wrong day, warning voters they may be arrested for voting, and flooding the media with dishonest advertisements for candidates.
If anything disgusts me more than the false charade of democracy distracting most of my fellow citizens from the struggle to develop actual democracy, it is death bed confessions. I don’t want to ever hear one from John Kerry. I hope that he may live many more years. But when he dies, I don’t want to hear any Robert McNamara-like truth telling spilling out of his horselike face. I want to hear it now, this week, prior to the 2012 election. I want it out there preemptively. I want people prepared to look for election fraud. And I want candidates prepared to point to it if it appears, big as life, staring us all in the face as it did eight years ago.
Or perhaps you’re counting on Barack Obama, whose supreme value is “bipartisanship,” to speak up for himself unprompted, in the complete absence of a swift kick to his pusillanimous posterior.
Speak now, Senator Kerry. Show courage unlike the perverse daredevilism required to participate in war. Show courage when we need it. We need it now. Speak.




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Yes, true, even as David says. Preach it, John Kerry, before you die.
If it is true what some people say, that Kerry is measuring the drapes for a position in Obama’s 2012 cabinet, I can’t see him showing the kind of courage you call for, David.
Maybe later, after his next post 2012 run at the presidency fails and there is a book deal in the works.
Have you seen this?
NSA Analyst Proves GOP Is Stealing Elections
In the world of reality, what if anything, can be done? Where would the monitoring come from? Scary, of course. I’m trying to see the antidote.
The GOPT hates democracy and many of it’s leadership and it’s base also do not consider anybody elected by the opposition as legitimate, therefore cheating and using whatever methods to do so is considered fair game by these people. That they’ve already stolen two Nat’l electins and God knows how many local elections is no surprise.
seen it?
i linked to it :-)
Give a try at drafting a John Kerry statement that wouldn’t be perceived as sour grapes over a lost election. (After all, that August windsurfing vacation and his failure to stand up to the Swiftboaters cost him a substantial vote.)
What if he and Al Gore issued a joint statement?
by mentioning elections i am not intending to further advance the notion that elections do much good or would do much good if we actually had them
what works needless-to-say-i-wish is educating, organizing, mobilizing, resisting. Gene Sharp has listed thousands of tactics if anyone wants a list
Who knows what would happen to those two men if they talked.
Wouldn’t the clarity and power to truth be very nice and empowering? Like the song…”one day….somewhere”
I believe that will happen when pigs fly. Look for pork chops in the trees before it happens.
I needed a laugh..See ya’ in the morning.
If candidates understand this is possible and if information like this is diseminated through the media before the election so they won’t simply look like “sore losers” on election night, then they can demand hand recounts if the results seem off, at least in states that have some kind if paper record of the vote.
It’s really too bad that the party of thieves continually steals elections from the party of the sell-outs to (and collaborators with) same thieves.
I forgot to add, and a hand recount (aka audit) would expose the fraudulent machine count.
Some people find their courage later in life. Others seem to lose their’s later. The John Kerry who went to Vietnam and came home with his dignity in order was not the John Kerry who bid for the presidency. I would not hold by breath for a re-birthing. (And I don’t claim to be any better, but I did not do either of those things.)
I recall being very struck with the difference between Kerry’s response to his election theft and Lopez’s response to his in Mexico a little later. Lopez did not drop to his knees and surrender like Kerry.
You would think there would be professional courtesy, eh?
You act like it matters. Fascism with an African face or fascism with a European face. It’s still fascism.
I don’t see that the notion of stolen elections can be introduced as fact by either the MSM or a beltway insider. It would de-legitimize (sp?) the entire government. If it happens in one precinct, county, state… why not others?
Many people are pretty much convinced by the work of Black Box voting and others that we have a sham and shameful election system for any number of reasons including fraud.
Elections are a joke in this country from for the tweedle dee tweedle dumb two party non choice to the locking out of 3rd parties from MSM events like the debates.
The mess is to massive it’s hard to imagine a fix.
Don’t we need to have a complete re do on this democracy which is a democracy in name only?
This is an interesting statistical look at the 2004 election:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0706/S00165.htm
So, urban, white males, the only white males who are liberal, suddenly appeared to vote for W.
If this analysis is correct, then America’s political science establishment is as useless as the MBA programs in the run up to Enron and all the economics colleges in the decade preceding the 2008 financial crash.
He became uber rich and that changed how he sees the world.
A country wide power outage would be nice. Could we have hand counted paper ballots please. Bet it would take less time than letting SCOTUS decide. Sorry i forget that’s too much like democracy.
Thanks for that. Sometimes a good chuckle helps.
All politics is local. If progressives had worked the local politics of Ohio, and Texas for that matter, the local government officials would be elected progressives or appointed by progressives.
One hopes progressives wouldn’t condone election fraud even if Republicans won.
ya really gotta stop looking for superman and fight in the streets of your own neighborhood, or accept the consequences of the local activists all the way up to the White House.
calling Anonymous
You’ll never get the truth and courage from these people.
They’ve been on the inside. They know the cost of exposing the crimes and will never do it.
Maybe Democrat acquiescence in Republican election theft IS professional courtesy.
So fucking depressing.
Even more depressing is the fact that this issue is not even on the media radar.
John Forbes Kerry is part of the 1%. The Forbes family goes back to the 1800s and a portion of the family fortune came from railroads. As we all know he was a member of Skull and Bones at Yale making him a member of a secret society which includes Bush pere and Dumbya.
He just did what he was expected to do. Hell, it didn’t hurt him any; he’s $15 million richer by walking away.
But that is not what Kerry does. He’s kind of like Gore in that respect.
Anyhow it doesn’t matter. The “election” is a charade. Everybody knows that.
Yeah, all these people on the Internets with these last minute warbles: “The Democrats are our CAUSE! Don’t let us down!” Meanwhile, the elites are telling each other hilarious stories about their relation to us. Bahahahaha!!
Stealing Ohio seems so possible what with Rombo’s private equity friends last year buying the voting machine company. Do these machines have paper receipts? Are they capable of doing a recount?
Surely there should be a verifiable way to count the number of heads entering a polling station, so that in the end, cannot stuff the ballot boxes.
this is how they will steal Ohio:
since the entire state uses paper ballots, unlike in 04, the voter turnout will be reported as “low” and now with a hurricane, that is now becoming the perfect reason.
ballots indicating Obama will be destroyed, primarily in the smaller republican counties. Those counties already know the number of Dem ballots that will need to be destroyed. All of these republican controlled counties will destroy any records that indicate the total number of voters. In 2004, 56 of the 88 Ohio counties destroyed the hard drives holding their local voting totals, and they did this in the face of a federal injuction during the “recount” instructing them to preserve all data. They could produce “Romney” ballots, but that is much harder than simply destroying “Obama” ballots.
Ohio is as corrupt as they come, and they’re smart corrupt. You’ve seen the Sec of State in action, Jon Husted has NO CAREER if he doesn’t rig the results, and he’s got the Gov Kasich backing him up. These guys are criminals, plain and simple, they’re psychopaths and they possess no consience. They will be hailed as heros by their fascist handlers, and they will be “made men” and enjoy long, lucrative careers, that’s all that matters to them.
I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am, I live in Ohio and have been watching this show for quit a while now.
Does this really seem plausible to everyone? The man lived most of his life trying to be Presidential timber, like JFK. And, after a lifetime, he believes that the Presidency is stolen from him, but he wants to say nothing for fear of what? Being seen as a sore loser? Is he six years old?
Too afraid of being seen as a sore loser to fight for the Presidency and clean elections. But then, when there is nothing to be gained by it, he makes a sore loser statement anyway?
Besides, what in hell would make John Kerry think that a stolen election is only about him and his image, when elections are the foundation of our entire system? For one thing, elections cost cities and towns a small fortune. People wake up early, lose time from work to vote. I for one stood in line four hours, about half of them outdoors in a heavy rain, waiting to vote for Kerry.
And what stopped him from instigating a federal elections law with very stiff penalties. Even if he did not want to seem like a sore loser by putting his name on the bill, he could have gotten an ally in the Senate to file it. Kennedy, for one.
This just does not ring true. And if it is true, shame on Kerry for acting like an election was some mano a mano game that was stolen from him personally.
Democratds cried about stolen elections in 2000 and 2004. Waxman even held hearings that proved how easy it was to program the software of a voting machine to rig a result.
What did Democrats do after those hearings about a new federal elections law? Nothing.
Why?
Why the Dems didn’t have a federal elections law all lined up and ready to go when they briefly held a sixty vote advantage in the Senate, is beyond me. I think the time betwen Franken being sworn in and Kennedy dying, was the period in time when we lost our democracy. You can bet the rethugs would have been pushing through a new bill every hour of every day had they owned all three branches of government.
I don’t know how you are using the word “progressives.” If you are using it to mean DLC, progressives are very much in charge. Hillary calls herself a progressive, as does Obama. So does Debbie Wasserman Schulz, current head of the DNC, having succeeded resounding failure, Tim Kaine, who also describes himself and hhis party as “progressive.”
If you are using it to mean something like “liberal,” you are mistaken. The DLC took over the Party when Bill Clinton won and liberals have been persona non grata to Democrats for quite some time now.
Btw, Tip O’Neill said “All politics are local quite some time ago, but he did not mean that local parties determine what goes on in Washington.
And they don’t. One committee chosen at the national level decides who runs for the Senate and another committee decides who runs for Congress. The Congressman who used to head that committee was one Rahm Emmanuel, which gives you an idea of how welcome a liberal would have been.
While I do accept the evidence that the 2008 election was stolen, I just don’t agree that casting doubt upon the 2012 results before they happen will have any effect. The right is already doing so from the angle that Obama will use a bajillion undocumented immigrants to cast ballots for him. What happens in our media environment is these claims just cancel out and nobody pays attention to any of them.
I have another reservation about this. We’re in a very dangerous moment in our country where neither side is liable to recognize the winner as legitimate if it isn’t their guy. We have a massive crisis of confidence in our elections. It’s caused mainly by Republican cheating and simultaneously (as they always do) accusing the Democrats of whatever it is they themselves are doing. So both sides believe the elections can’t be trusted.
So for this reason as well I’m not supportive of high-profile politicians casting doubt on the fairness of our elections right now. Not unless they have rock-solid proof to present that even a nitwit like Wolf Blitzer couldn’t ignore.
Don’t look to the Democrats for help on election integrity issues. The official position of the Democratic Party is that electronic vote counting is wonderful and is fail safe. After all, people will be reluctant to vote if they don’t trust our private for profit, unverifiable, faith-based electronic system.
Further, David, you are now regarded as a Conspiracy Theorist by Think Progress for bring up the issue.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/22/1059171/why-romney-isnt-rigging-the-voting-machines/
Good question. I thought after 2000 Dem leadership and the activists in the base would be focused on ballot and election reform–but nada as far as I can tell. I think some clue might be found in how the 2000 election loss narrative changed.
In 2000 it was all about voter suppression, ballot counting, Sec. of state, Supreme Courts, etc. Twelve years later the narrative changed to blaming Nader. I remember two years ago Lawrence O’Donnell making nader into a verb as “the dems nadered themselves”. And I have noticed over time on various Dem activist sites that yes, Nader was the culprit for Gore’s loss.
Since 2000 gopers realized they could steal elections and engage in massive voter suppression while Dems rebuilt the 2000 narrative to blame Nader. And now…It looks to me that Dems were totally caught flatfooted and mystified over the gop creating essentially new Jim Crow laws. Dem leadership had no idea this was coming???
Totally agree with your post. people have no idea of the amount of power that one or two people have over who gets to run as a Democrat. In California, unless you possess the political capital of a Jerry Brown, you pretty much have to have toadied up to Di Feinstein for a decade or two before you can get her to say you can run.
And Di Fi is extremely conservative. The woman is a very RW Republican with the ability to use the Big D after her name. Quoting a brilliant line from tonight’s “The Good Wife”, TV show, I don’t know if it is Di Fi’s sanctimoniousness or her hypocrisy that troubles me the most.
Not only that, but whole blame Nader thing is totally bogus considering the number of registered Democrats who crossed party lines to vote for Bush.
“Twelve percent of Florida Democrats (over 200,000) voted for Republican George Bush”
-San Francisco Chronicle, Nov. 9, 2000
“If one percent of these Democrats had stuck with their own candidate, Al Gore would easily have won Florida and become president. In addition, half of all registered Democrats did not even bother going to the polls and voting.”
Compare that to Nader’s 97 thousand odd votes, of which less than half were registered Democrats.
It’s obvious that if you focus on vote counts, the Democrats themselves cost Gore the election, not third party voters.
But why let the truth get in the way of scapegoating someone else for your own failures?
The above quotes came from Dispelling the Myth of Election 2000: Did Nader Cost Gore the Election? -by Irene Dieter, CAGP
Thank you, elise.
Yes, it is a good question. If you are a lawmaker and your livelihood, power, prestige–and maybe jobs in some nice corporation for your wife and kids– depend on your being re-elected…. and you really believe your re-election could be stolen randomly by a Republican….why don’t you enact laws that mandate life in prison for federal election fraud of any kind?
Okay, maybe mandatory life is a little extreme, so let’s not focus on that. Just the stiffest sentence that traffic will allow.
Why? Why? Why?
That’s what I would do if I were a Democratic legislator who wanted a career in the U.S. Senate or the U.S. House. How could the American public not support tough federal election laws. Even Republicans would have a tough time opposing them publicly. And, heck, if they do, they’ll only look bad.
So, why have Democrats not gone beyond whining about stolen elections and holding hearings to prove that stealing them is easy.
Why?
Do you buy they are sincere when they say that?
Why did Waxman hold hearing to prove that elections could be stolen very easily then?
Who is leaking all that info about elections stolen from Democrats by Republicans to the media then? I doubt it’s been the Republicans pushing those stories.
Doubt it was the media’s own idea. We have very, very little investigative journalism any more.
The only thing I can think is that Democrats leak those stories and then say they don’t want anything to distrust our system or they might not get out to vote.
If my analysis seems like common sense to you, why would Democrats keep stories in the media about something they say they don’t want anyone to know?
Am I understanding correctly: You believe that elections as high profile as a Presidential election are stolen, but don’t think anyone should discuss that possibility before a Presidential election?
Is it really beyond you?
Or just beyond the way we Democrats have been trained to think about who steals or rigs elections.
2008 or 2004 election evidence of Presidential vote theft?
Plane fell from the sky to prevent the acknowledgment of theft in 2004 election
Rove saw the writing on the wall after the Bush administration so the 2008 election the election crimes were never expected to win the presidency. But Rovian republicans could use it as the opportunity to “practice” more broadly a wide variety of strategies to thwart the will of American citizens. The 2008 objective was aimed at future elections and, most importantly, to prevent a national Democratic Mandate.
The myth of American Democracy. American Exceptualism. Hypocrisy is necessary. Americans have lived with it for along time…we don’t trust ourselves to understand or work with Truth.
cartoon image
one frat boy coming out of a bedroom doing up his pants, says to another frat boy waiting outside the door, “your turn”.
This needs to be raised before Obama loses the election so that when the numbers are not quite right it all makes sense.
This should be happening now. There has been plenty written about it. There was a lot out there in 2004. Discover magazine even did an article about how easy it would be to steal the elections without a trace, and voila! it happened.
This will not get addressed anytime soon. I’m sure they are sharing the wealth and somewhere the Dems were tossed a bone. Say, an elected traffic court judge in Snowshoe, North Dakota, or a state representative in Rock Paper Scissors, Michigan.
But David is absolutely right. This should be on the front pages of newspapers, now, before the election. People need to be keeping an eye out when they vote, not that it will make any difference whatsoever because flipping a black box lever at 2 AM is totally invisible. People need to be thinking about it when they watch the election returns. How does a guy as polished and well spoken as Obama flub a debate? Because they need a horse race to make it look plausible when they steal it again. Don’t tell me he’s not in on it.
Funny that we all spend so much time here arguing about whether we should vote for Obama or lodge a protest vote, when the fact is, at least some of us are going to end up being counted for Romney.
I’m all for yelling out how the system is not legitimate, but John Kerry?
Please.
Slanderous idea!? Are you kidding us? The two most basic elements necessary for crime are motive and opportunity. Does anyone seriously doubt both of those exist in this system?
If you leave your wallet out on a park bench, what are the chances you’ll see it again?
Slanderous idea! WTF. That logic is so ass god-damned backwards it’s not even funny. In security, you don’t prove a system is safe by assuming the entire human species has noble intentions.
Insanity.
the media in this country is completely compicit in all the right wing moves whether ignoring rigged elections or beating the drum for wars. ownership of media has had ties with cia type agencies since the post ww 2 era-read the church subcommittee report on the cia which will curl your hair-but no one ever disputed the conclusions.. the stories the media refuses to do color our society with a blanket of stupidity and short sidedness and selfishness-all unsustainable….
the democratic leadership are all bought and paid for on money issues.Dont expect help.