As our government was making a fraudulent case to attack Iraq in 2002-2003, the MSNBC television network was doing everything it could to help, including booting Phil Donahue and Jeff Cohen off the air. The Donahue Show was deemed likely to be insufficiently war-boosting and was thus removed 10 years ago next week, and 10 days after the largest antiwar (or anything else) demonstrations in the history of the world, as a preemptive strike against the voices of honest peaceful people.
From there, MSNBC proceeded to support the war with mild critiques around the edges, and to white-out the idea of impeachment or accountability.
But now MSNBC has seen its way clear to airing a documentary about the fraudulent case it assisted in, a documentary titled Hubris. This short film (which aired between 9 and 10 p.m. ET Monday night, but with roughly half of those minutes occupied by commercials) pointed out the role of the New York Times in defrauding the public, but not MSNBC’s role.
Yet, my primary response to that is joy rather than disgust. It is now cool to acknowledge war lies. Truth-tellers, including truth-tellers rarely presented with a corporate microphone, made that happen.
MSNBC host and Obama promoter Rachel Maddow even introduced Hubris by pointing to another war lie — the Gulf of Tonkin incident that wasn’t — and a war lie started by a Democrat in that case. Similar lies can be found surrounding every war that has ever been, which is why I wrote War Is A Lie. We have to stop imagining that “bad wars” are a subset of wars.
But, of course, using Maddow as the presenter and narrator of a film about Republican war lies during a period of unacknowledged Democratic war lies unavoidably gives the thing a partisan slant. Watching Hubris, I was reminded of something that Michael Moore tweeted last Friday: “Senate Repubs: U started 2 illegal wars that broke the treasury & sacrificed the lives of thousands of our troops & countless civilians.”
Of course, the Senate that gave us the two wars in question was in reality controlled by Democrats, and the war lies were pushed hard by Senators Kerry, Clinton, and their comrades. Hubris touches on this reality but not with sufficient clarity for most viewers — I suspect — to pick up on it.
The film presents a great deal of good evidence that the war on Iraq was based on lies. Unavoidably, endless terrific bits of such evidence were not included. Less excusably, also left out was an analysis of the evidence that only dishonesty — not incompetence — explains the propaganda that was produced.
Hubris is the wrong word for what took the United States into war with Iraq. The forces at work were greed, lust for power, and sadistic vengeance. The word “hubris” suggests the tragic downfall of the guilty party. But the war on Iraq did not destroy the United States; it destroyed Iraq. It damaged the United States, to be sure, but in a manner hardly worthy of mention in comparison to the sociocide committed against Iraq.
Hubris, the film, provides a reprehensibly ludicrous underestimation of Iraqi deaths, and only after listing U.S. casualties.
It was not pride but a disregard for human life that generated mass murder. Congressman Walter Jones, who voted for the war, is shown in Hubris saying that he would have voted No if he had bothered to read the National Intelligence Estimate that very few of his colleagues bothered to read.
Another talking head in the film is Lawrence Wilkerson. He is, of course, the former chief of staff of former Secretary of State Colin Powell. Wilkerson is shown explaining that the reason not to attack Iraq was that doing so would take a focus away from attacking Afghanistan. Clearly this was not a reason that led to Wilkerson or Powell taking any kind of stand.
Wilkerson says in this film that he and Powell knew the war was based on lies, that the claims were junk, that no WMDs were likely to be found, etc. Yet, when confronted last week by Norman Solomon on Democracy Now! with the question of why he hadn’t resigned in protest, Wilkerson claimed that at the time he’d had no idea whatsoever that there were good arguments against the war. In fact, he blamed opponents of the war for not having contacted him to educate him on the matter.
The Hubris version of Colin Powell’s lies at the United Nations is misleadingly undertold. Powell was not a victim. He “knowingly lied.”
The same goes for Bush, Cheney, and gang. According to Hubris it may have just been incompetence or hubris. It wasn’t. Not only does overwhelming evidence show us that Bush knew his claims about WMDs to be false, but the former president has shown us that he considers the question of truth or falsehood to be laughably irrelevant. When Diane Sawyer asked Bush why he had claimed with such certainty that there were so many weapons in Iraq, he replied: “What’s the difference? The possibility that [Saddam] could acquire weapons, If he were to acquire weapons, he would be the danger.”
What’s the difference? In a society based on the rule of law, the difference would be a criminal prosecution. MSNBC and Hubris steer us away from any ideas of accountability. And no connection is drawn to current war lies about Iran or other nations.
But the production of programs like this one that prolong Americans’ awareness of the lies that destroyed Iraq are the best hope Iran has right now. MSNBC should be contacted and applauded for airing this and urged to follow up on it.
Photo Courtesy of Charles Haynes released under Creative Commons License




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Amerikans worship being lied to and eliminate any leaders that use too much truth. Telling the truth when it would matter, not ten years later, would destroy our illusions and people just couldn’t handle it.
Telling an edited version of the truth after all this time only reinforces the myth that we are an honest people who learn from our mistakes.
Nazi fascists were tried, convicted and hung. Nazi fabricated shit all the time to justify and initiate war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
Bush Cheney Rummy and Wolfy are no different. War Criminals and the fascist scum seem to have gotten away with the same type of bullshit Nazi scum where executed for. Neo Con is wrong. Fascism is the correct term applicable here. America got played, fucked and these POS like Wall Street scum still walk to rape and pillage again?
Why isn’t it treason?
Has anyone been able to locate and view the video today? Could not find it last night to watch after hours.
I think the only way we will see those war criminals punished will be if service men and women and their families, who have suffered so much as a result of the deliberate lies and propaganda, rise up and demand it.
I doubt there’s a federal court in the land who wouldn’t dismiss a war crimes trial, out of hand. A decade later the only people who have anything to fear are the war protesters, videotaped and photographed, in those prescient U.S marches. That MSNBC ” massaged the message ” shouldn’t be surprising, considering the Uniparty of the Senate, is still very active as we’ve seen with the love embrace of the MSM given Hillary and Kerry. Kerry was a jerk at the 2004 DNC with his ” reporting for duty ” salute to the crowd. He deserved to lose that election because he crushed the righteous dissent that was building within the rank and file against the Iraq War. And, MSNBC was right there to help him. Talk about hubris, good grief!
War Is a Racket.
FDR knew that he had to have a war to keep the country from sliding back into an even deeper depression. So setting up for the military industrial complex that came afterwards.
Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ were all par in partial to making sure it continued.
Bush knew the country was heading to another economic downturn and so tried to avert it with another trumped up war to keep the machinery going.
Obama is just following suit.
With out war capitalism falls flat on it’s face.
Drone pilots are only the most prominent console-bound troops. Today, we are in the middle of information war. Any message that comes from the MSM needs to be closely scrutinized. The FUBAR, paranoid, military mind-set that fosters public support of actual, physical, flesh-shredding, remote, MURDER is also actively working at information control. To think this surveillance state isn’t doing just that, is to be a fool. Marketing rules. Everything is a sales game. We have to be wise enough to understand what’s being sold, why, and the stakes.
Irony abounds that the topic of discussion is the Iraq war, which occurred a generation ago in technological terms. The methods of delivering ideas and nurturing and propagating them have evolved. Who/what is Judith Miller’s counterpart today?
Thanks to David for pointing out MSNBC’s hypocrisy, but I won’t be calling them up to applaud anything.
I don’t watch TV. Why should I? If I have to wait ten years to hear what I already knew from reading the internet, the take-away is that television as a medium is BEHIND the curve and has clearly been rendered impotent as any kind of check on what the people really running this country want to do.
I’m all for punishing the Bush regime for their crimes, but I seriously doubt the intentions of an equally evil Obama regime. Let’s face it, only the front-man has changed. For fuck’s sake, John Brennan?
If we’re going to look back, let’s follow the continuum all the way up to the present. We won’t get very far though, because in the most transparently opaque administration in history, everything is a secret, especially the CIA’s non-existent, yet highly-touted counter-TERRORISM programs.
If invading a country, murdering its people, and destroying its infrastructure to control its resources and open up a contracting bonanza was wrong then, why is it so hard to see that myopically monitoring populations from thousands of kilometers away and subsequently blowing up their families while exorting a RIGHT to do that is just as morally moribund, in addition to ALSO being ILLEGAL.
Bush was no Commander in Chief, and neither is Obama. They are both puppets to entities that STILL operate with the “we have to destroy the village in order to save it” mentality.
Commercial free.
What’s the hidden agenda? Why was Maddow allowed to do this and why was this particular moment picked?
Something is up and it’s not going to be good.
The First Casualty of War Is Truth.
Hubris was published in 2006. The authors, Michael Isikoff and David Corn are no strangers to MSNBC. Why now? is an important question.
Not going to speculate. We’ll find out soon enough.
Sent an email to one of my fave bloggers who follows hidden agendas more closely. If he does any follow up, I’ll post a link. He’s got a full platter now, so I doubt, unless whatever O has up his sleeve is big, Corbett won’t be doing anything on it.
Meanwhile, you might enjoy 9/11 in 5 minutes if you haven’t seen it.
Corbett’s also doing a series on Gladdio Plan B with Sibel Edmonds.
‘…(aka: Europe’s Pepe Escobar)’. ;o)
Pepe Escobar & Europe? I don’t understand the context.
Pepe Escobar is Brazilian & works for a paper in the Far East.
Yes, it was a rhetorical question. Not much attempt at being subtle anymore among the PTB.
It’s from your link to Corbett.
That is so weird. When I click on the links, they get me to what I intended, wh was not anything about Escobar (who I also like). Let’s try the links without embedding them.
Here’s the one for 9/11 in 5 minutes http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
Thank you; I was…delayed. And +10 for your comments yesterday. ;D
Here’s the one about Gladdio Plan B
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-604-sibel-edmonds-on-turkey-the-hood-event-israel-and-gladio-b/
Writes for Asia Times. His last column is a fair take down of the SOTU.
I don’t usually read Escobar’s columns. He is interviewed by Scott Horton, on antiwar issues, with some frequency & I always listen to those.
I see the confusion. The Corbett report has a link to a heroin trafficker who was given some kind of asylum in England and they compare him to PABLO Escobar (not Pepe), a notorius drug lord.
Big difference.
Your initial Corbett link went to:
Yes, I’d say there is a BIG diff!!!!
Corbett puts the links to everything he talks about in the podcast below the play button. You may have clicked on one of those instead of the play button.
Gladdio Plans A (untranationalists) and B (Islamists) all involve major drug movements. I think that’s where I learned that if it weren’t for USG & NATO, there would be no Drug War (TM). A lot of the drugs get moved on NATO airplanes.
If you’re interested in the series on Gladdio, I linked to the third podcast. I think there’s a link to the prior one underneath the one I linked. Both of those are with Sibel Edmonds. There is an earlier one that is more of an introduction. I didn’t know anything about Gladdio except for the wiki, so I’ve listened to all 3. Huge revelations.
There should be a play button, so that you can listen to the podcast.
Thanks for the links. I’ve been checking them out and poking around for a while. The 9/11 in five minutes is cool. Imagine the “ruffled feathers” Rachel would generate if her “boat rocking” expose’ touched on any of that material.
One main thrust of the site is ferreting out hidden agendas and false flags.
Those are difficult subjects, and Corbett seems to be careful about documentation.
Ta, eCAHN; will do.
The ONLY media group that I know of that didn’t buy into the Bush war BS was McClatchy. They were calling it out from the beginning.
And fits with Scott Peck’s, People of the Lie, where the premise that lie is at the root of most, if not all, evil….Rooted in a lie….sadly has become much of our gov.
Good comment. Personally when I saw Kerry salute I knew he would lose. Just a jerk. But he was not the only one,carrying,water for that freaking war. It should have been stomped on.
The media were in on it. It doesn’t even need to be spoken. Anyone who graduated from kindergarten (that does not include me as you’ll see in a moment) can tell what he’s supposed to put in print or on screen.
It was possible from open sources to figure out in advance that there were no WMDs in Iraq. I did.
Waited until summer 03, bought 2 copies of Where’s Spot, and pasted over “Spot” with WMDs. Sent one to Judy Miller, the other to Tony Blair. No covering letter, but did put return addy on envelope.
Got hand written note back from Miller, 7/10/03
A couple of weeks later I received a small typed note from Tony Blair’s assistant thanking me for my gift.
Thanks for post and commentary. All been said before, but begs the question WHY NOW? And anyway, I assume that nearly or everything in this “documentary” has already been exposed already, discussed, blabbed about, etc. And yet: nada will happen.
Obama told one of the few truths in his life when he said he would never “look back.” That’s a done deal following, of course, Nancy Pelosi who already promised that “impeachment is off the table.”
Two so-called “Democrats” who don’t give a rat’s patoot about truth, but I’m sure that they’re highly paid for their connivance & contrivance.
Why is this “documentary” being released now? I do believe that most of the information has already been discussed on RM’s “infotainment” show anyway.
Time will tell….
Funny, though, that in “Zero Dark Thirty” (I was went very reluctantly but I can at least speak with knowledge) the entire film is a giant suck up to BushCo NeoCon activities, glorifying & romanticizing torture, plus LYING bald-faced numerous times about WMD and how the CIA “just made a mistake.” Oh really? Big propoganda piece, which was a crappy movie anyway (just in terms of cinematic stuff), but I duly note that it’s likely to “win” the Oscar. Can we say: fixed?
And now we have RM with a documentary pretty much refuting a couple of the major points in Zero Dark Thirty.
Who’s listening? Who’s paying attention? What has bigger sway on public opinion?
Ooops, forgot the Where’s Spot link.
Goes to show,you we all see things differently. I sure,didn’t come away,excusing Bush and Co for torture or it was just a mistake.
It is an open question though as you and eCAH suggest: why now?
You don’t usually figure out the A to that Q until after the fact, when disaster occurs. Why I have a bruise on my forehead, from striking it so often.
The presentation of Hubris omitted much of the evidence that Bush/Cheney were knowingly lying. It also omitted the entirety of the Plame outing, even though both Plame and Wilson were shown. There was Cheney being interviewed by Tim Russert, with no mention of Cheney’s notes revealed in Fitzgerald’s investigation to the effect that Russert is Cheney’s first choice because Russert was the friendliest venue. In so doing, the “journalists” marching right along with Bush and Cheney are let off the hook. The key omission, though, was failing to tie the war mongering to greed. Cheney lied, and from the war his lies produced, he made millions and millions through residual contracts at Haliburton and KBR. The administration of Iraq was spectacularly corrupt on purpose. It is the greed that makes the case for treason, not just a history of error and stupidity.
THAT is freaking hilarious. Even if they didn’t get the snark though, you were put on a list. I guess all of us are on one, or two, or some giant relationship matrix.
What fascinated me about that little joke was that they both responded to it. Why were they so easily provoked? I’m a nobody from nowhere. No response was appropriate, esp since I did not include a covering letter.
Here I’m willing to guess at their motivations. Guilty conscience. They knew they were lying and felt a need to cover up even to an almost anonymous gentle jerking of their chains.
No, I didn’t either. But they lied several times in that film about WMD is what I’m saying.
As for the torture, well it can be seen either way. I think some who view the film will be confused and think that torture “worked.”
You and I have already discussed that, in fact, the film appears to point out that it was Intel & other stuff that led to the alleged compound in Abbotabad and ultimately to ObL being “killed” (if that’s what happened).
But I’m not sure if everyone watching that film will get that. Plus it seemed to me to be saying that it’s ok to “do whatever it takes,” and pretty much is saying rah-rah the War on Terror is necessary. Just my take…
Didn’t watch the show but did anyone have the decency to mention the over 4000 troops killed in Iraq?
Good points. Let us not forget all those airplanes flying pallets of Yankee Dollar$$$ over to Irak never to be seen again….
War criminals, period!
That’s pretty damn interesting, I must say. Well done, eCAHN! Spot! ha!
Fascists, period.
America is.
That hand-written note should be framed and saved for the museum we’re going to need in the future to commemorate the loss of the soul of America.
I have been doing archeological digs in my attic. Came across both letters in random piles. Lost the Blair one to another pile when I had to put away piles I was sorting in prep for a guests. It will surface again. Kept the Miller one out to show guests.
U.S. lost its soul long before that.
It doesn’t take much to amuse me, you might have figured out.
“But, of course, using Maddow as the presenter and narrator of a film about Republican war lies during a period of unacknowledged Democratic war lies unavoidably gives the thing a partisan slant”
This assertion is bullshit. Maddow put the GOTR, on the democrats, specifically LBJ, a democrat. What show were you watching?
Blaming LBJ for the VN war. Sure shows how nonpartisanie Maddow is.
Working up for a false flag cyberattack. Richard Clarke has told his friends ePATRIOT act has already been written. Kiss the internet goodbye.
…time will tell … when no one else will
Yes it does because Ike gave the green light to tricky dick to start the war. That why I don’t watch rm.
What would be decent about mentioning that collateral damage… to praise their great warriorism and sacrifice in killing/displacing 1000x that many innocent Iraqis?
She is partisan. No doubt about it.
Yes, you have to watch it closely otherwise it looks like torture did the trick. That was probably deliberate
War is teh normal for empires.
Forgot to add that whole megillah about how Ds have to “look like they’re tough” when running for POTUS is the excuse to I just lurve me some wars even though the voters hate them. r2p is the leftie kill ‘em to save ‘em ditto.
There’s an effort to create a decentralized web network.
http://thefnf.org/about/
I’m not familiar with that one, though (waay above my knowledge) I have run across other efforts to save some semblance of internet for ordinary peeps. I’ll see if I can find links.
Or put differently, if internet hadn’t happened, the DoD (and it’s financier, Gore) would have had to invent it.
Oh wait.
That’s what I mean.
Heh. The older I get, the better my short term memory gets. Here’s the link I remember. May be the same approach as yours. I am so not geek, just honing my skills on spotting FFs bef they happen. I sent this link to a geek friend, she was interested to look into it, but not in immediate time horizon.
Yes and now – again – we’re getting Intel about how China is hacking everything over here… big surprise… NOT.
But a good excuse for clamping down on the “Homeland” and its inhabitants – eh? why how convenient.
We’ve off-shored all kinds of allegedly Top Secret manufacturing shit to the “Red” Chinese, and now we’re supposed to be “worried” about them hacking into our infrastructure? Get out of town! The “red” Chinese know everything they need to know, and more, about all of our allegedly super-secret top defense shit.
Just in time for North Korea to blow its stack, apparently…
It’s all carefully staged.
Poor widdle Kim Jong Un easily provoked.
Asad (Brit spelling and title of bio I read of his father so sticking to it) not so much. Iran not at all.
Chinese are savvy. Watching carefully how they play this one. Perilous on all sides for them.
Thanks for the rundown on this show, David Swanson. (Do we really have to call it a film?)
It sounds like exactly what I thought it would be when I decided to make sure I didn’t watch it. (Though the bit on the Gulf of Tonkin incident sounds like a real blockbuster: wow, MSNBC really putting the Dems of 2013 on the hot seat there!)
The only thing I would like to see changed in David’s post:
Just like the Professor and MaryAnn in the first season of Gilligan’s Island opening song (“… and the rest!”), Biden definitely merits individual mention by name for his role in making sure Iraq got destroyed.
Thanks for the link, eCAHN!
Like Gore and Biden.
yes, that’s for sure. Not happy with N. Korean having nukes, but then again… who knows? Who has been helping them? CIA has many fingers in many pies. Just saying…
yes, indeed. Not like the so-called “Democrats” are not to blame. They beat the War Drums just as loudly as the comrades “across” the aisle. Big money to be made, baby.
py with N. Korean having nukes, but then again… who knows? Who has been helping them? CIA has many
It should be understood the Bush administration was going to invade Iraq no matter what. The lies were just part of the PR effort to provide ‘political support’ for it. The lies, hubris, whatever, didn’t lead us into war they were just part of the war.
Besides it’s a done deal that some majority of Americans will support a war, any war. All the PR was deployed simply because that is what thousands of peoples job is. I suppose the medias embrace and participation in the effort broke new ground for it’s mindlessness but that is hardly a surprise and that did probably added a few percent to the polls on the war. So it goes.
Henry David Thoreau, Life Without Principle
Thoreau is saying that television rots our brains, even in 1841.
And Calvin and Hobbes.
Rats…here it is.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8367/8491243826_1132c34e9e_o.jpg
I’m grateful that the Rachel Maddow Show and MSNBC aired this “Hubris” special. It highlighted the low points of the Neo-con Republican/Bush/Cheney deception that sparked the March 2003 Iraq War, a war profiteers dream. (War profiteers have a hard time profiting from peace). So I thought it was strange that in “Hubris” there wasn’t one mention (I don’t think I heard any mention) of western oil companies craving access (control) of Iraq’s oil resources, over no matter how many dead bodies.
Besides BP and other western Big Oil companies profiting, Deadeye Dick Cheney (even while VP) profited from the Iraq War he helped start. As former head of Halliburton (an oil field serving company which faced billions in asbestos lawsuits at the time Cheney became VP), Dick Cheney had Halliburton stock in a so-called “blind trust,” but the Iraq War helped raise Halliburton’s depressed stock price, enough so that at the time Dick Cheney left as VP his so-called “blind trust” Halliburton stock had increased in value by millions of dollars.
So I thought it was a glaring omission in this “Hubris” MSNBC special that almost every right-wing neo-con Republican “rationale” was covered except the real motivation for Bush, Cheney and neo-cons starting the Iraq War…Iraq’s oil and control over it, the real prize. Everything else flowed from this, especially all the blood spilled, both U.S., “coalition of the willing,” and Iraqi.
Great anecdote involving Judith Miller. She played a major role in hyping the Iraq War beforehand (via NY Times articles), for which she was awarded a “plum” embedded spot on the U.S. military’s YWET-Alpha WMD search team. YWET-Alpha was part of the initial invasion force from Kuwait that was sent into Iraq to locate Saddam Hussein’s WMD, when once found would “prove” all the Bush/Cheney/Neo-con claims about Iraq being a threat, and Judith Miller went along for the ride into Iraq expecting a major “scoop.”
Read her embedded reports filed with the NY Tiems. One of her embedded front-line YWET-Alpha dispatches caught my attention. In the middle of an ongoing tank battle with Iraqi Republican Guard tanks, YWET-Alpha pulled out, skirted the fighting and raced northward to a sport west of Baghdad (one of the “spots” alluded to by Rumsfeld when describing where Republicans knew Iraqi WMD was hidden, before hostilities were started). WMD “scoop” for Judith Miller? Nope. YWET-Alpha (and Miller) only found an abandoned half-covered-in-sand complex, no WMD. Ooops. Three months of Judith Miller embedding, no WMD, no “scoop.” And Bush, Cheney and Neo-con Republicans placed their Iraq War “bet” on Saddam Hussein having WMD (as their cherry-picked intel “proved” and, ahem, “unbiased” anti-Hussein Iraqi exiles kept saying was fact).
So, was this suspected WMD hot “spot” west of Baghdad, and rushed to by YWET-Alpha and Judith Miller, reported to the U.N. WMD weapons inspectors inside Iraq before hostilities began, so they could visit and check it out? Judith Miller’s embedded dispatch indicates that this was the “trump card” Neo-con Republicans thought they held before starting the war. They withheld this sites location and possible WMD connection from the U.N. WMD weapons inspectors, who were ordered out of Iraq 48 hours before Bush ordered hostilities to commence. Then YWET-Alpha went to work, finding nothing, just like the previous U.N. WMD search team found nothing, just like the subsequent Iraqi WMD survey groups found nothing. Oooops. So much blood for Iraqi oil and no WMD, and no accountability for any of the lying, deceitful Neo-con Republicans responsible for starting a war based on lies and deception.
The Iraq war is a clear example of how oil whores played America to gain access to the sweet crude beneath Al Anbar. As with the overthrow of Mossedagh in Iran in 1953, we have witnessed the overt protection of oil monopolies, that fuck foreign countries over resources, oil, to then leverage Americans into wasting trillions of dollars out tailpipes, fucking USA.
The Iraq war is an oil war concocted by oil whores too protect monopolies in commerce.
It is called corporate fascism, when elected leaders lie and fabricate evidence to justify a war crime, to protect well intrenched oil monopolies. Nazis orchestrated an attack on the homeland to justify the invasion of Poland. War Crime trials enlightened the world to the tactics employed by fascists to initiate war. FRAUD!
America has seen the extent to which, war criminals will fuck America to protect potential energy monopolies. We also know what slaveowners did to protect a monopoly on energy!
Agrarian Aristocrats initiated a civil war to perpetuate the enslavement of human beings to be exploited for uncompensated energy. Does America think oil whores will act different from Slave owners, considering the common denominator is, ENERGY!
Excellent…. They took a page right out of the Fascists Handbook, written by Nazis. Meanwhile oil refinement manipulation to drive the price of gasoline and diesel higher?
America has been sodomized…….
And continues to be sodomized by corporation…..
James Madison vomits………
It sounds a little bit the way it would have been if Watergate didn’t break into the news cycle until the beginning of Clinton’s second term (with no Clinton impeachment coming beforehand). That’s a bit of a patchy comparison, but the lag time on important public knowledge information has become a travesty contributed to by both legs of the uniparty. It is very objectionable that such need to know information is still so onesided, in a time when it is deeply affecting us all.
Shall it be the next century before all the pieces of the puzzle are publicly put in place?
Did they get the oil?
What effect did getting the oil (or not getting the oil) have on gasoline prices at the pump?
Are we still getting the oil?
What is the effect now?
Seems the Iraq oil should be flowing steadily. Where? For whose profit? Is there any way to follow the money?
Thank you.