Nearly everyone following the Social Security debate is familiar with former Wyoming Sen. Alan Simpson, the co-chairman of President Obama’s deficit commission. Simpson, the son of a senator, thrust himself into the national spotlight with an infamous, late-night email. In addition to displaying an ignorance of bovine anatomy, this email displayed open contempt for Social Security and the tens of millions of retirees and disabled people who depend on it.
While Simpson has seized the spotlight, it may prove to be the case that Erskine Bowles, his co-chairman, poses the greater threat to Social Security. The reason is simple: Bowles is the living embodiment of the rewards available to politicians who would support substantial cutbacks or privatization of the program.
On either policy or political grounds, Social Security should be very safe right now. In policy terms, it would be difficult to envision a more successful government program. Social Security does exactly what it was intended to do. It provides a modest retirement income to the vast majority of the country’s workers and their families, keeping them out of poverty in their old age. Almost two-thirds of retirees rely on Social Security for more than half of their income.
The collapse of the housing bubble has destroyed much of the home equity of near retirees. The plunge in the stock market that followed in its wake severely deflated the retirement accounts of middle-class workers. As a result, near retirees are likely to be even more dependent on Social Security than those already retired.
Social Security also provides workers with insurance against disability in their working years. Nearly 20 percent of beneficiaries are receiving disability payments. Many workers are not even aware of the disability insurance aspect of the program, but if they find themselves unable to work due to disability, they will be glad to learn that they had insurance through Social Security.
And, contrary to the Washington fear mongers, Social Security is in solid financial shape by any reasonable definition. The Congressional Budget Office projects that it can pay all scheduled benefits for the next 29 years with no changes whatsoever. Even after it first is projected to face a shortfall in 2039, the program could still pay nearly 80 percent of benefits into the next century without any changes at all.
Modest changes, such as raising the cap on taxable income (currently $106,000) would eliminate much of the projected long-term shortfall. Changes of the size implemented by the Greenspan commission in 1983 would make the program fully solvent long into the 22nd century. Remarkably, virtually no policy wonk seriously disputes these numbers in spite of the near universal hysteria among the chattering class over Social Security.
On policy grounds, Social Security is a smashing success. It scores even better politically. Poll after poll finds that everyone from Tea Partiers to actual socialists strongly supports the program. Yet, many members of Congress stand prepared to vote for substantial cuts to Social Security or even a partial privatization of the program.
Why would members of Congress be prepared to take a vote that is both bad on policy grounds and also could hurt their own political survival? Erskine Bowles is a large part of the answer. Bowles is an unsuccessful politician, having twice lost in runs for the Senate in North Carolina.
Yet, he is very successful financially. He pockets $335,000 a year as a director of Morgan Stanley, one of the huge Wall Street banks that was rescued by taxpayer dollars in the fall of 2008. He likely pockets a similar sum from sitting as a director of GM, another company rescued by the government.
This means that Bowles pockets close to $700,000 annually (@600 monthly Social Security checks) from attending eight to twelve meetings a year. This must look like a pretty attractive deal to current members of Congress. In other words, the message Bowles is sending members of Congress is that if you betray your constituents and vote to undermine Social Security, you will be amply rewarded even if the voters give you the boot.
For this reason, Bowles should be a very scary figure to supporters of Social Security. By example, he is telling our elected representatives of Congress that they need not worry about either good policy or their voters’ wishes. Unfortunately, many members of Congress may find Bowles career to be an attractive route to follow.



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But Bill Clinton loved Bowles. That must count for something?
/sarcasm
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This needs to show up in every morning newspaper and be read on every drive-time radio show in the nation.
Erskine Bowles comes from North Carolina.
Look up the North Carolina Chamber of commerce on the web.
Call the chamber, email the chamber in North Carolina and say.
Your fellow citizen Erskine Bowles of North Carolina better shut down the catfood commission or I and my family and friends will not do business with North Carolina businesses on the net, nor buy any products in local stores that come from North Carolina. I will also not travel to North Carolina.
The Liberal Democratic Party of the United States will do what the Democratic Party failed to do
http://www.twitwall.com/view/?who=DEMOCRATZxORG
Thank you for helping us get to know this other enemy of the American people in their old age. Simpson is a terrible man; this one is a terrible example.
Disband the Catfood Commission, now!
The Greenspan Commission of 1983? Aren’t you being too fair to them? Didn’t they institute an income tax on Social Security benefits for early retirees, and raise the age of full retirement that wiped out the gains in life expectancy? Didn’t they also reduce the actual payouts to retirees by doing those things? If we mimic what they did we will have Alice Rivlin’s plan to raise retirement ages to 63 for early retirement and 68 or more for full retirement. They did not eliminate the cap on FICA: we should do that. Let’s not apologize for their crimes in advance! Most young people surveyed would prefer to pay more in FICA (if necessary) in order to have Social Security be intact for them when they reach retirement age. But employers never want to pay their share. Maybe we ought to confront them.
To quote Sharron Angle, we could use ~~~Edited by Moderator. We don’t go down that path~~~ protect us from Erskines Bowels.
Yes, I think that explains Obama’s behavior too. He’s looked at Clinton and noticed what he’s made since running a presidency friendly to the corporates. O figures he can do the same thing and move he and his family into the ranks of the elite of developing plutocracy. Congresspeople also share that ambition.
Bowles sounds like Harold Ford, an absolute disaster at the ballot box who the powers that be inexplicably worship.
They’ve already cut SS twice with no COLA….I guess to get US ready for losing it to The Monsters of the Universe once and for all.
This post finally provoked me into contacting Alice Rivlin after a 30-year hiatus. Here’s the email:
Hi Alice,
Long time, no contact.
Thought you might like to know that I’d scanned in a famous photo from happier times. Here’s the url. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22233394@N05/2145183241/
On a different subject, just wondering why you agreed to serve on the Catfood Commission, and why you think it’s a good idea to raise the retirement age of blacks, whose longevity is shorter than whites? Especially in an environment when people of all colors can’t get a job if they are over 50 anyhow. Why not just raise the cap on contributions? Isn’t that simpler & more equitable?
Hope you are well,
You are my hero.
Oh well, don’t hold your breath waiting for a response.
Bowles and Gore (yeah, that Gore) were the designated go betweens for the start up DLC and it’s corporate pals. that that gave it legs
Bowles was also Clinton’s go-between in negotiations with Newtie on privatization of SS, which was derailed only by Monica.
http://firedoglake.com/2010/05/18/how-monica-lewinsky-saved-social-security-clinton-gingrich-bowles-and-the-pact/
Did you notice the Congresscritters never save money by proposing a cut in their pensions? And isn’t it amazing that they continue to get raises? Their rule appears to be “All for me and none for thee”.
Start closer to home.
I can’t get Amy Klobuchar to make a commitment to maintaining Social Security benefits so there’s no point worrying about Simpson and Bowles.
Get your Senators on the record. Their total unwillingness to make a commitment is the scariest thing of all!
OT;
QE II, yes, no, how much?
We know their record, just look around you.
Erskine Blowes.
fuckno on QE2,
Who gives a FF? This is all a distraction. The U.S. is in a liquidity trap & how much the FRB is able to lower long term int rates by buying bonds doesn’t matter one twit.
econobuzz, Erskine Blowes who? Inquiring minds…
Completely OT,
I just got this email:
Dear Valued Customer,
You have been awarded the sum of $350,000 USD by our office here in Malaysia as one of our customers who use Western Union in their daily business transaction.
[snip]
I just provided all the info. Didn’t ask for my mother’s maiden name, so must be legit. Can’t wait for the $350,000. /s
Of course it won’t work to stimulate jack in our domestic economy. But does it not matters to savers, retirees, commodity prices? You know, real and psychological effects on the 99%.
I would think tomorrow’s blood bath would cause some of these Democrats to reconsider. I get that they all have golden parachutes, but they might also have further political ambitions. If nothing else the party might be in such disarray they will not accomplish anything during the lame duck session or realize Obama has led them over a cliff and revolt.
Buck it up average America. Somebody has to pay for the billionaire tax cuts were fixing to pass in the lame duck.
Signed,
Barry, Chucky and Johnny B.
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Dead goats.
Social Security Benefits should be increased, the contribution cap raised and the retirement age should be lowered. Getting people to retire earlier will open up jobs for younger workers.
This Commission’s purpose is to get its foot in the door to begin to funnel Social Security contributions to Wall Street.
The fat cat looting under Dubya Bush continues under Obama. It’s a Mafia Style Bust-out.
http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/money-trail/2010/03/19/bust-out
Suddenly, you are my hero!
Barry says the benefit reductions won’t be too steep.
Now I understand Rahm’s Napoleon Complex.
The guy’s a dwarf.
Should he have put on an imperial bearskin, it would have sat on his waist line.
My next door neighbor, a convicted felon who was recently paroled, is on SS total disability. He rides a bike all over town and I sure wouldn’t want to wrestle him.
that photo,could cause me turn PERMANTLY bulemic
Your neighbor is a straw man.
Karl Rove wants you to think about your neighbor scamming the system for $1200 a month while Rove’s friends in the MIC rip us off for billions.
haha….yes im still sending beets…ive just been so bummed out lately,all i do is interact with the pets….but legal movement is transpiring on my dilema i wrote you about…whoop
oh gosh we are threading like kossaks
God forbid……..
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Here’s what I wanna know…
Why did President Obama establish this commission at all once Congress refused to do so, and why did President Obama choose men like Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, both of whom already had well known views concerning their desires to cut Social Security, to co-chair it? I know what I think, but I’d like there to be some other reasonable explanation.
Erskine Bowel-Movement
There is none!! None at all, unless you want to go the conspirator route!
Yah mean just a regular BM??
I am going to follow you!
Enough already!
Someone needs to develop a list of all the phony democrats currently in congress.
Before we fight the GOP, we need to clean up our party or force the trojan horses to join the GOP.
Come on people! You all know that having SS and Medicare make our nation soft and not able to live up to taking care of our old people by charity. Cutting SS would also enable the children of the old to show how much they love the oldsters by supporting them. The children could earn their own way by contributing to the family and foregoing wasting their time becoming one of the educated elites. The money saved by cutting SS and Medicare could be funneled to the mic and banksters. After all I heard a story on npr today about people volutarily working in a needle factory well into their 90s. There must be a lot of jobs out there, but people are too lazy to look because they know that they can get SS.
Go GIANTS!! They Finally did it!!! W00T!!!!
The fire works are going off here in the bay area!!!!!
watertiger is upstairs!
Late Night: Is This Latest National Nightmare Over Yet?
I’m afraid the Democrats will take the wrong message from this election. No matter what the outcome, they will take the message they want to hear. I heard Ed Rendell on Lawrence O’Donnell talk about working with Republicans on entitlement “reform”– sort of like welfare “reform”, I guess– cutting benefits for people who can least afford the cuts. I’ve heard other Democrats say that as well. Why are the Democrats speaking this way, and before an election too? I was against welfare reform, but at least that happened during a good economy.
I am voting for the Democrats tomorrow. I have a good congressman up for re-election. But if the Democrats “punt” as they say on doing anything about the Bush tax cuts, effectively handing it to Republicans to extend them, and then “reform” social security, medicare, or medicaid because they’re suddenly concerned with the deficit again, I am absolutely voting 3rd party, and I think many will join me.
It was only a week ago that George W. Bush stated that his one regret was that he was not able to privatize Social Security.
http://my.firedoglake.com/roknich/2010/11/01/dewey-wins-wake-up-and-vote/
That’s the agenda of the Republicans, and the corporations that own them. Don’t believe the media that is 75%(or more) owned by Republicans. Wake up and vote.
Remember, after Simpson’s despicable and slanderous late nite tirade against Social Security and its recipients as undeserving “tit-suckers”, after an avalanche of emails and calls to the White House to fire or at least harshly rebuke Simpson, President Obama doubled down on Simpson reaffirming his faith in and unshakable support for him.
That’s more of the REAL Obama.
Susan,
Welcome to my space,re the Congress and some questions and options.
(1. has there ever been a congress person to retire poor?
(2. the Congress as promoters of the purse have a handsome salary and what do you know a honorarium of from four to five million dollars to “run their office and staff”. If they do not use all of that money do they return it to the treasury? Ho,Ho, thats rich! (pun)
(3. so many,many of our citizens have taken a hit during this depression but not our group of civil servants. I propose that they all take a hit as well of 20% until this mess is over.
Is there any one of us who doesn’t believe that this mess would straighten itself out mighty quickly were they to take the hit? Come one and come all and lets demand that they take that hit.
Obama is not running this year. I am voting for Phil Hare. Who did you choose in YOUR PRIMARY??
People need to realize that Democrats and Republicans will continue to bring grief to Main Street America from here on out, while bringing riches and joy to Wall Street America. Only a third Party can break the grief cycle.
Larry Kalb, a strong progressive challenging our middle of the road, stay-on-the-fence incumbent Democrat. But he lost badly after an energetic campaign. People are not able yet to absorb reality.
A plausible explanation: more of Obama subterfuge in service of Wall Street, who were his major financiers of his astonishing, meteoric rise out of nowhere. Part of a long-term plot to move the ball further down the road to partial privatization of Social Security.
Social Security concept by the way first time in the humanity concept where every generation saves in a common pool de-linked from wall street whims and scams did not originate just simply out of thin air.
It was a very smart concept by FDR generation to prevent occurrence of Depression so that their children do not suffer the same fate as they did and also have massive wealth transfer at rock bottom prices which did not occur last time due to in-advertant occurrence of far right regimes in 3 countries which had silly inhumane thoughts of world domination and did things which humanity should be ashamed of that it happened.
Maximum super rich pay is around $7000 per annum in social security for the hundreds of millions they make per annum. So Social security is self-supported by middle class and poor class by all measures. If Super Rich want massive wealth accumulation prices have to rock bottom, depression is how it is achieved. As long as Social Security is present we will never have depression. That is why they try to dismantle only thing between their goal of massive wealth transfer whatever the human costs they might be.
Doesn’t it make sense then to financially attack some of these corporations with coordinated consumer boycotts by Progressives demanding progressive legislation of these Corporate CEOs?
I suppose some progressives will say wait until 2012 for the next election.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Increase-the-minimum-wage-to-10-an-hour/140711249308538?v=wall
Barack Obama is the Number 1 enemy of Social Security. He appointed the Catfood Commission (and Rahm, Summers, no public options, called progressives name…..etc)and filled it full of ocial security haters. Obama is the one who is not forcing the monies to be paid back to SSA and screwing the middle class. and he’ll cave on the Bush tax cut and everything else too and then be surprised when the public elects the real Republican and not Republican lite.
Thank you. It’s time somebody pointed that out. The changes made in 1983 are the sort of changes we need to fight against.
Sadly, Erskine Bowles just put his fat paychecke where his integrity used to be.
Unless you’re a Republican, Barack Obama has been a disaster. Bowles’ commission chairmanship is just another case in point. Look at how Obama has governed. He isn’t a Democrat. Obama is a Republican who entered politics as a Democrat because he knew the GOP would never nominate a black man for president. He’s turned out to be the best thing that’s happened for the Republican Party in decades.
I agree that the Republican aka DLC/New Democrat take-over of the Democratic Party is complete and they are passing a Republican agenda that the Republicans could only dream about: “preserving private delivery of healthcare and opening education to ‘free markets’”. They will pretend they held fast at not privatizing Social Security (a strawman)so that they can cave to just disemBowling it.
The sooner we recognize that the Democratic Party at the highest levels is a sock puppet for the Republicans, the sooner we can move towards some real solutions.
“Why would members of Congress be prepared to take a vote that is both bad on policy grounds and also could hurt their own political survival? ”
Uh – maybe because this “smashing success” has nothing in its coffers but IOUs?
Looks great on paper – but who’s gonna pay the money back that Congress has been borrowing from SS for decades because they don’t have to include it in the budget figures?
SS’s assets are all promissory notes written by politicians who knew that someone else would have to find the money years from now. Our retirement money was gone long ago.
Who do you think Obama is caucusing with? Besides the usual suspects?
My biggest fume is at the appointment to “The Committee” of that sociopath, David Cote.
Except I think the bloodbath is exactly what Obama ( that 11 dimensional chess champion) wants.
More republican cover.
I think he had a few tense moments while having such a huge majority and still punching out his base every chance he gets. Now, he won’t have to try to hard to hide it.
I also think he thinks he has friends up there. Sadly, I also think he’s going to find he’s the sacrificial goat.
this is a guy who’s had it easy most of his life with his sociopathic charm. He’s not going to be ready for the bite of the Great White.
Because Congress doesn’t matter anymore…that’s why. congress is too inconvenient for the unitary executive
It also helps them achieve the world wide goal of slavery for all but themselves.
Nah, he was put in there specifically to show that Democrats are the devil, and certainly can’t govern. He’s proved that nicely so we can except the 4th Reich with republicans dragging US down the road for probably the next century… if the planet last that long
I knew something was wrong when Obama said brightly, “I’M a NEW DEMOCRAT!!!”
And this is alright with you? That our gov will renege on a sovereign debt to it’s people so it can pay back the IMF?
Well, hey! It’s happening all over the world.
Look at France. they rumbled all across the country and our media reported that their retirement age was only going up to 62, which was a blatant LIE…it’s going up to 67.
and friggin’ Sarkozy still signed the bill.
Now if that doesn’t tell you how much the people opinions…anywhere…matter anymore, I don’t know what will.
Just remember….the rich don’t work! they steal it from their “lessers”
Absolutely. The rich folks’ goal is to make social security a welfare program that the elite bestow on the rest of us. And now we are supposed to apologize for taking back our own money.
In the old days the lord of the manor had the right to sleep with a bride on the first night. If that was the case today many weak liberals would be apologizing that their new wife wasn’t pretty enough or lacked enthusiasm for her tryst with one of the “better people.”
Rendell wanted to sell the PA Turnpike to a private company. Would he sell his mother to please the bankers? Probably not, because he is a Democrat good on “social issues” as long as they don’t get in the way of the rich making more money from the rest of us.
That’s right, it was called droite de seigneur. It’s where today’s MOTU get the idea that screwing us royally in the name of good governance is the very epitome of The Good Life.
It’s not just good policy, they believe, it’s what god himself would do. We’re getting screwed royally by a bunch of hyper-pious self-righteous crypto-royalist wannabe war gods.
And make no mistake: their god’s got balls. Great juicy big balls. In fact, he’s got the biggest balls of them all. So just do as the MOTU say he says and no one, you know, gets sent to everlasting torment forever and ever amen. Or worse, has their Precious credit score destroyed.
Now, about your daughter’s wedding night, Lady Liberty…..
Oh no they won’t renege, they’ll just pick the money off the trees where they think it grows. Makes them look like heroes and kicks the can down the road a few more years.