Robert Samuelson gave us a true Washington Post (a.k.a. Fox on 15th Street) classic in his column today. He tells us that the right is unrealistic because it thinks that it can solve the deficit problem by cutting government waste. The left is unrealistic because they think they can solve the deficit problem by cutting the military and taxing the rich. This means ….. drumroll please …..
THE TRUTH LIES IN THE MIDDLE.
Okay, as we know, the Post always looks for what they identify as the center of the political spectrum, which it substitutes for the truth. While Samuelson concludes that all right-thinking people support cuts to Social Security and Medicare and increased taxes on the middle class, let’s try looking at the evidence instead of hunting for the political center.
First, the evidence suggests that there is no deficit crisis, there is a jobs crisis. We have more than 25 million people unemployed, underemployed, or out of the workforce altogether. This is causing us to lose nearly $1 trillion a year in potential output in addition to the enormous strain it imposes on the unemployed and their families. And the effect of prolonged unemployment is likely to leave many of these people permanently unemployed.
Meanwhile the bond markets keep yelling at us to borrow more money. The interest rate on 10-year Treasury bonds is just a bit over 2.0 percent. In other words, the evidence is that we need not do anything about the deficit any time soon. What we need to do is spend money on jobs programs, assisting state and local governments, infrastructure, retrofitting buildings to make them more energy efficient and on other important needs.
Okay, but one day we will have a deficit problem if the Congressional Budget Office’s projections are correct. If the folks who looked for truth in the center instead looked for truth in the data, they would see the whole shortfall is due to our broken health care system. If we paid the same amount per person for our health care as people in other wealthy countries then we would be looking at huge budget surpluses, not deficits.
Sure, it’s not easy to fix health care, but is that an excuse for not talking about it? And some things may not be all that difficult. What’s wrong with a little free trade in health care? Does the center have to be so protectionist?
In terms of other deficit issues, if we got our military budget to the same share of GDP as it was in pre-September 11th days we would save more than $2 trillion over the next decade. If we imposed a tax on financial speculation, like the one that the UK currently has on stock trades and the European Union is considering for a wide range of assets, then we can get as much as $1.5 trillion in revenue over the next decade.
And we can have the Federal Reserve Board simply hold all those bonds that it has been buying the last few years as part of its quantitative easing program. The interest paid on these bonds is refunded from the Fed to the Treasury, meaning that it has no net cost to the government. That could save us around $800 billion in interest over the decade.
In short, if we look at the evidence rather than hunt for the political center, we see a very different world. We see first that there is no current deficit crisis. Then we see that there are many possible solutions to whatever deficit problem may exist in the long-term that do not require whacking middle class and lower income workers who have been the victims of national economic policy over the last three decades.
Economist Dean Baker is co-founder of the Center for Economic Policy Research, where he writes on economic policy issues. This post appears at Dean’s Beat the Press blog.



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bond interest so low is bizzarre
it seems to me so long as bonds are selling at 2% the government can buy those bonds themselves and pay them off when inflation makes up the difference
The damnedest thing is that Robert J. Samuelson isn’t an economist; he’s a journalist! He doesn’t know dick about economic theory or have any in depth knowledge of economic issues. It appears that he trades on a famous economics name giving him some credibility where he earns none.
The problems we have can be solved. The Problems in Washington are the real problem.
Time to move all the crooks out and rename K-Street.
We have only one medical-care problem, and Gerard Anderson et al made it the title of their 2003 paper: “It’s the Prices, Stupid.”
The U.S. spends 17% of its GDP on medical care, while the rest of the developed world spends about 10%. And, by the way, we rank 22nd out of 31 OECD nations in quality of medical care.
In other words, we spend an additional trillion dollars per year for inferior medical care, just so that the right wing won’t call our care: “socialized medicine.”
You said it: 25 million unemployed or underemployed and a trillion dollars lost in GDP and these genuises think we can just cut our way to prosperity. Idiots.
When have cold, hard facts ever influenced political decision-making?
The problem with the fed holding those bonds is it takes that money out of the economy. I’m not sure that is a good idea either. IMO we have to forget about the deficit, that’s right foget about it forever, and spend the money we need to fix the economy. We are not going to turn into pumkins.
Of course they can be solved. Provided, of course, that all the workable solutions aren’t eliminated even before discussion begins.
Boxturtle (first we have to agree on no tax increases, and no defense reductions)
It takes a lot of hard work to endlessly recycle the conventional wisdom. What with the sage editors of WAPO watching over his every word, the poor man has no margin for shortcuts. But that’s why the guy earns the big 1% bucks. Count me among the envious.
Why do we continue to rail at folks like Robert Samuelson? He’s now irrelevant. Mitt Romney irrelevant.
Events are rapidly overtaking the conventional wisdom and driving more people into the streets. Either as homeless or as protesters.
Perfect example of “It’s not WHAT you know but WHO you know.”
Extremely sage bunch of contributors this morning. It’s a shame some of this wisdom doesn’t rub off on our legislaturds.
Fixing our currnt probolems is not rocket science. Except for the NASA parts.
EXACTLY!
But when the whores in DC talk about health care spending cuts they always mean cutting benefits, not costs, because cutting costs would upset their pimps in pharma, AMA, AHA, etc.
To be honest, I’m not sure what is relevant anymore. I want to think the people in the streets will drive some change we need, but, damn, it’s hard to come by.
People in the streets are necessary but not sufficient. What is relevant is a vision of how to get an economy moving without the international financial system and their governmental puppets. The movement of funds to credit unions is relevant. The use of microfinancing of small production startups is relevant. The rolling out of open source technology is relevant. The bootstrapping of massively distributed alternative energy production is relevant. The appropriation of unused speculative resources and putting them to use is relevant.
And maybe a Credit Card Company Epiphany Day on January 6 is relevant. Millions telling credit card companies that they have “paid off their principle through years of paying exorbitant interest–so just shove it; you’ve gotten your principle back.”
Wholesale MURDER costs a lot.
K street hardedged (K)corruption.
Yup, writing about Samuelson is pointless. Dean, if you want to make a difference, write about Ken Rogoff. He actually has some clout in the world. (He’s a Harvard econ prof and former head of IMF.) And he peddles the same sort of steaming horse-shit as Samuleson. E.g.:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1e0f0efe-c1a9-11e0-acb3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1d2Io4oyy
there is no mystery here.
robert samuelson has been peddling the same right-leaning crap for 20 yrs or more. his columns are like a cell phone ring-tone – same damn notes, over and over and over again.
ding-a-ling dunce!
Samuelson needs to be smacked down because he has the platform of the WaPo0 which to some folks, still gives him a level of instant credibility.
I know, I know, thinking people know better but we have to reach out to the ones that do not think as well as the thinking people so we have to take the time to refute his nonsense
What influence does he have beyond Beltway culture?
In short, if we look at the evidence rather than
hunt for the political centertry to push the political center rightward, we see a very different world.Actually, writing about Samuelson is important because he’s the guy your co-workers, friends and neighbors will be directed to read by the middlebrow hackss posing as highbrow experts on the Sunday talk shows.
He’s one of the folks that is touted to the average American as an “expert”. Remember, not everyone reads blogs — most folks still get most of their news from drive-time radio or the evening TV news, or maybe the Sunday news shows if they feel especially wonkish. And Samuelson is marketed to be an expert in that news universe.
~ A WashPosted $old-out A$$ $OUL!
Have Such a Difficult Time Dealing With Reality?
The reality is that they are not trying to solve made up problems, they are trying to transfer wealth upwards.
“these genuises think we can just cut our way to prosperity. Idiots.”
I don’t believe they are that kind of stupid. Stupid – yes – but it’s the kind of stupidity that has something else underlying (avoidance of accountability by any means necessary, maybe?). I know, “duh”, but it’s all just too reckless and unworkable for them to believe that austerity leads to prosperity. Of course, production that depletes, poisons, destroys, or concentrates wealth to a few is no path to healthy prosperity either. Austerity could be better for achieving prosperity than the same old same old externalizing costs ruse.
The only way he would have influence on drive-time radio is if he were on every day. Fewer folks watch the evening TV news, and fewer still the Sunday bobbleheads. And most of the wonkish read blogs of one sort or another.
It seems to me that he would have an audience among less conservative small town country club “reasonable” Republicans. Which are a vanishing breed. And Third Way types, which are vocal, Villagers, and few. Exactly the types who have as much difficulty dealing with reality as Samuelson. Which is why I don’t think he is relevant or infectious. (The same impact is true for Paul Krugman by the way. Just a different audience.)
On the subject of “free trade” in healthcare, the link proposes:
“Buy into other countries’ health care systems: Many retirees have family or emotional ties to other countries. They can be given the option to use their Medicare to buy into the health care systems of Canada, Germany or whatever country they choose.”
How different is that from Ryan’s plan to send the Medicare funding back to the states and allow them to run the system? After all, we’re saying other countries can do it better, so why not the states?
Why is Mr. Baker attacking the Serious people?
More likely, they are different sorts. Some are just idiots in the sense they accept whatever they are told. Hell, most people do when an expert tells them so. But some also are hiding behind it. No doubt.
I’m not sure I agree with that. In the end, if government becomes non facilitating in the sense of striving for surplus – - austerity – - they will kill whatever improvement may come.
Not much but unfortunately for us all, it is the Beltway Village
IdiotsPundits and politicians and their culture that we are having to fightBOYCOTT THE FUCKING WASHINGTON POST! Tell your friends. The only thing the wapo cares about is supporting the corporate policies that benefit them and their buddies and making $$$$. Do not give them your money. Without lib $ the would go bankrupt. Before that happened the wapo would get relegion and revert to being a much more honest paper
Not in my neck of the woods. Here, it’s the social mores of fear and its accompanying complacency and social withdrawal. The Beltway is as a million miles away for most folks (except to complain about like the weather). Folks here have not yet begun to honestly own their own anger; they are still scared of it. Or still comfortable enough to maintain an illusion of holding on.
The ideology of “centrism” is based on a logical fallacy:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/middle-ground.html
Stick a fork in this ideology because it’s done.
- Tom
“We see first that there is no current deficit crisis.”
Might want to start by telling the president and the dumbocrats in congress.
Because he’s paid very well to do what he does, that’s why. When your livelihood depends on shoveling the bullshit, don’t expect anything otherwise.
Then you will see a scrip economy appearing.
Which is a better way to describe the WaPoop?
Fox on 15th Street
or
Pravada on the Potomac
“Why Does Robert Samuelson Have Such a Difficult Time Dealing With Reality?”
Because he’s well paid not to.
“If we imposed a tax on financial speculation, like the one that the UK currently has on stock trades and the European Union is considering for a wide range of assets, then we can get as much as $1.5 trillion in revenue over the next decade.”
I really wish there was a good example of a good “Tobin” tax in the US – one that taxed the placing of an order and then again taxed the execution of the order, or that high frequency transactions could be controlled. – I’d estimate such a tax would produce more like $4 to 10 trillion over 10 years compared to your estimate of 1.5 trillion for applying the Brit version.
But it is good the other countries in the EU are considering a financial transactions tax.
The Brit Stamp tax/duty is extremely limited.
The Brit tax is ONLY ON BRIT COMPANY SHARES – you don’t pay when you buy foreign shares. The Stamp Duty Reserve Tax (SDRT) for ‘paperless transactions’ and Stamp Duty for transactions using a stock transfer form only apply to completed transactions and is 0.5% based on what you give for the shares (called the ‘consideration’) – not what they’re worth. There is no tax when you place an order. Besides any existing shares in a company incorporated in the UK, or in a foreign company that maintains a share register in the UK, you also pay on:
an option to buy shares
rights arising from shares, like the rights under a rights issue
an interest in shares, like an interest in the money from selling them,
except “If you subscribe for new shares in a company, Stamp Duty is not payable.”
Of course the 0.5% becomes 1.5% when you use a ‘depositary receipt scheme’ or a ‘clearance service’ – a held in the name of a third party arrangement.
We could use a smaller percentage split between placing the order and the selling or buying – and get many trillions over 10 years – and get taxes on those derivatives.
It seems the nominal rates are not so much from public
demand for the bonds as from the Fed buying MBS’s and mortgages
at book, not fair value, and the benchmarking created by the
trillions extended the TBTF banks at virtually 0%.
Ripping off everyone’s interest income creates a market for
paper at low rates, and the Fed’s ultimate cap on the m.s. will
sound like only reserve requirements but that will translate into
shafting employment, still in favor of the super wealthy.
However, the debt problem is not due to foreigners or safety nets, but rather the army of off-book spies, the Bush tax cuts that
were borrowed from China and financed by you, the blank check on
big bank bad deals and liability.
This is simply any Ponzi celebrity as a leadership culture, but still retaining their smugness and self-belief. It’s a confluence of some of history’s greatest scapegoaters with some of its most
arrogant people, and make no mistake about it, the violence to the
lower middle class and lower class, and to the medically indigent,
though they go to the hospital (too late) anyway, their cost built
into your premiums (the cartel simply covers its own risk-free people, meanwhile) all along, is comparable to much of history’s atrocities.
That is to say it’s essentially indistinguishable from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYR5joj73Es
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNXGL9As5aI