I’ve been mulling over the dodgy answers (if you can even call them answers) given by Ambassador Holbrooke and Defense Secretary Gates when they were recently asked to define success in Afghanistan or to speculate about how long Americans should expect to be fighting a war there. In case you missed these, take a look.
Here’s my problem: this is a very basic question, and the answer is very simple. We’ve chosen counterinsurgency as our strategy in Afghanistan. Here’s the definition of victory according to The U.S. Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual, page six:
"Victory is achieved when the populace consents to the government’s legitimacy and stops actively and passively supporting the insurgency."
Also, not unrelated is this passage on page xxv:
"…civilians must be separated from insurgents to insulate them from insurgent pressure and to deny the insurgent "fish" the cover of the civilian ‘sea.’ By doing so, counterinsurgents can militarily isolate, weaken and defeat the insurgents."
Defining success in Afghanistan is thus a very simple matter: Because the insurgents are the Taliban (whom we seek to defeat because their victory in the Afghan civil conflict would supposedly create an al-Qaeda safe haven), and because the Taliban is a movement inside the Pashtun ethnicity, we can precisely define the target population as the Pashtuns, who form the "civilian sea" referenced above that actively and passively supports the insurgency. So, they are the population which we must separate from the Taliban. We can thus restate the manual’s definition of victory by making it specific to the current conflict. According to counterinsurgency doctrine:
Victory in Afghanistan will be achieved when the Pashtuns consent to the government’s legitimacy and stop actively and passively supporting the Taliban insurgency.
That took all of five minutes, and I don’t have a government bureaucracy at my disposal to aid in my research, nor did my department publish the book. With that in mind, there are really only two possibilities:
- The ambassador and defense secretary actually do not know how to define victory within the U.S.’s chosen strategic paradigm of counterinsurgency (in which case they are incompetent and should be dismissed immediately); or
- They do in fact know the answer to this very basic question, and they don’t want to give it.
I don’t believe that #1 is true (although other criteria may prove them incompetent), and that leaves us with #2. That, in turn, leaves us with a question: why would these men not want to publicize the simple answer to the question of "success"? The answer, I believe, is that stating the definition for success out loud would allow for public discussion and evaluation of our strategy. U.S. policymakers want to avoid such an evaluation of where we are in relation to COIN doctrine’s definition of success for a very simple reason: our attempt at counterinsurgency has already failed.
For those that are new to this discussion, here’s a map showing the geographic distribution of Afghanistan’s main ethnic groups.
That light green crescent in the south denotes the Pashtun homelands, which extend across the border into Pakistan.
Now take a look at this map from the BBC denoting the level of violence in each district in Afghanistan.
The "areas of militant control" indicate Taliban strongholds; "high risk areas" where there has been major clashes with insurgents; and "medium" or "low risk" are where there has been some or little violence.
Reuters further explains that this map
was produced in April 2009, before a dramatic escalation of violence ahead of the August 20 ballot.
Note that the April 2009 date of the latter map means that it was produced before the launch of the major operation in Helmand earlier this year. The Afghan NGO Safety Office noted that the increase in troops in the first half of 2009 failed to disrupt insurgents abilities to plan and execute attacks against the U.S. and allies:
"attacks in Kandahar have grown >50% over the year and in Helmand they have stayed consistent with 2008 rates."
Not only do the insurgents continue to mount attacks from within the Pashtun "sea," but the Pashtuns have, by and large, rejected participation in the processes of the Afghan national government. In overwhelming numbers, they stayed home during last week’s election.
Meanwhile, turnout was paltry in southern districts where British forces and U.S. Marines all but held the door for Afghan voters. Obama dispatched 17,000 additional combat forces to Afghanistan ahead of the election, but the threat of Taliban violence and reprisal apparently kept voters at home.
The Times of London reported Thursday that only 150 of the several thousand Afghans eligible to vote in the Babaji area of Helmand province cast ballots. Four British soldiers were killed there this summer, a toll the newspaper recalled with the blunt headline: "Four British soldiers die for the sake of 150 votes."
This is a disaster for a counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan. The Obama Administration and the COIN afficionados within it were banking heavily on the election to flip the Pashtuns, who, according to Bruce Riedel (one of Obama’s trusted advisors on Afghanistan), had never bought into the central government’s legitimacy in the first place:
The Pashtun belt in the south has been disaffected from the beginning. I think when we look back at this, the Pashtun majority in the southern provinces, to a lesser extent than the eastern provinces but certainly in the southern provinces, have never bought into the legitimacy of what happened at the end of 2001. They may not all support the Taliban, but they have never bought into the legitimacy of erasing the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan.
The administration was counting on the election to draw the Pashtuns into the political process. The widespread fraud and the refusal of huge numbers of Pashtuns to head to the polls, however, shows that the strategy failed.
A report from AFP puts a fine point on it, emphasis mine:
In some Taliban strongholds, such as Logar province south of Kabul, residents said turnout was negligible.
"In my village there are more than 6,000 people. Only seven voted," mechanic Mansour Stanikzai told AFP in the provincial capital Pul-i-Alam.
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"The reason we had the election was to give legitimacy to the government, and we have failed in that goal," said analyst Haroun Mir.
Taken together, the ongoing use of the Pashtun homelands as the base for the insurgency and the Pashtuns’ rejection of the processes of the central government show that after eight years, 807 U.S. military casualties, $228 billion dollars (so far; the full cost will exceed half-a-trillion dollars) and more than 20,000 Afghan civilian deaths, we have utterly failed to convince the Pashtuns in Afghanistan to "consent to the government’s legitimacy and stop actively and passively supporting the insurgency."
In fact, as Dexter Filkins’ article in The New York Times shows, the massive election fraud will make it impossible for even the United States to endorse the legitimacy of the Afghan national government until questions of election fraud are adequately addressed, putting the political element of counterinsurgency (referred to by the COIN field manual as the prime element of COIN) into indefinite limbo while more and more U.S. troops spill into the country.
In other words, the U.S. counterinsurgency effort in Afghanistan has been a total failure.
Reports indicate General McChrystal will soon ask for 20,000 more troops for this debacle. The President and Congress should say no and end our military involvement in Afghanistan as quickly as possible. Americans know failure when they see it.



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“has been a failure” we all know, Derrick, but that’s a fer piece away from “will be a failure.”
Question for you: have you seen anything anywhere that indicates a plan for bringing the Pashtuns into the fold? You say in another comment that “Lots and lots of things are spoken of and yet exist only in the imagination,” and I agree with that. For example: a path to winning the Pashtuns over to the legitimacy of the government.
Case in point:
I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts about how you get the political back on track for the COIN effort in Afghanistan given the last weeks’ debacle. This is an outworking of our wrong-headed endorsement of the results of the 2002 loya jirga. That bell can’t be un-rung. Yes, this is the fault of the Bush administration. But just because Obama is a new president doesn’t mean he gets the luxury of tabula rasa in Afghanistan. His predecessor left him a no-win situation by initiating a war in response to 9/11. We can cut our losses now or later, but it’s not moving back into the win column.
I doubt that winning over the Pashtuns will happen quickly. It might follow the traditional model of kicking their asses when they attack followed by 1)promising not to attack them or invade their tribal area and 2) throwing a big bag of cash on the table.
(Sometimes dressing this up a bit is good.)
We sure agree that the situation was allowed to become about as bad as it possibly could be, considering that we won the war and all. But I’m still not gonna let you throw this into the loss column.
We probably can’t and won’t be going strictly COIN doctrine. As you’ve ably detailed the “loyalty to the central government” is a long slog away, but, for a while, if we are pushing the Taliban back and alienating them the populace, we’re doing okay. I kinda think that we can play to tie in Afghanistan if we’re gaining in Pakistan.
I would push you a little toward thinking of this as a regional conflict.
“if we are pushing the Taliban back and alienating them the populace, we’re doing okay” — Those are two pretty big ifs…I’ve not seen any basis for claims that we’re a) pushing them back or b) alienating them from the populace. What am I missing?
I don’t think we’re gaining at all in Pakistan, frankly. But that drags us back to our disagreement about the utility of the drone strikes in Pakistan.
You don’t get to play to a tie in counterinsurgency. If you’re not winning, you’re losing. Foreign forces playing to ties overstay their welcome; thus, they lose.
But again, I’d stress that I don’t think counterinsurgency is valid in the first place. It calls far too many things “wins” that are clear losses. El Salvador, for instance.
If you leave out that “for a while”, it kinda makes it different. If you’re not seeing those indicators, it’s because we’ve just started the push with the Helmand Valley. Six months or so, then you can start.
I should have been a bit clearer about Pakistan. The “we’re gaining in Pakistan” isn’t based on only our actions, but also on the actions of the Pakitanis if their army and populace are hurting the Taliban/AQ forces on that side of the line.
(You might have noticed that drone strikes in Pakistan are smelling pretty good to the Pakistanis these days.)
I know you’ve asked for a pardon for the use of a Friedman unit before, but I really do have to say that it’s incredible that we always have jam for tomorrow but never jam for today. At some point, we have to decide to stop kicking the can down the road.
If it’s true that we have to wait six months to evaluate the effects of the last escalation, can I expect you to oppose the pending request for a 20,000-troop increase? After all, if we have to wait six months to evaluate, throwing new troops in would be premature, would it not?
“They do in fact know the answer to this very basic question, and they don’t want to give it. “
..hmm..no pipeline yet, but those involved in the drug trade are doing well. NATO forces are invaders and occupiers. Those who fight them will continue to fight them until they get out. Those who fight against NATO forces are not insurgents by definition because they are not fighting their own government. A lot of people would still be alive if the US had just paid the Taliban the money they wanted for ensuring the pipeline would be built.
The Taliban have never committed a terrorist attack against Americans, but they are being used to justify the illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. To justify the targeted deaths of civilians which is a war crime. Amazing what the MIC combined with the MSM can ‘accomplish’. That manual briefly mentions influencing public opinion via the media both outside and inside of America. I think it is on the page 6 you referenced if my memory is working right today.
Accept the government as legitimate? Karzai is a party to PNAC..the plans to takeover control of the world’s oil and his brother is the biggest drug dealer. Anybody think the Pashtuns don’t know that?
How many more will die or be maimed for life to keep that puppet government of Karzai installed?
Gee, how many people would still be alive if the Taliban had handed over bin Laden?
Perhaps that might be a better question than one about an imagined pipeline.
This imagined one from 1997?
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“A senior delegation from the Taleban movement in Afghanistan is in the United States for talks with an international energy company that wants to construct a gas pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to Pakistan.
A spokesman for the company, Unocal, said the Taleban were expected to spend several days at the company’s headquarters in Sugarland, Texas.
Unocal says it has agreements both with Turkmenistan to sell its gas and with Pakistan to buy it. “
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/wor…../37021.stm
When did construction start on that one?
Lots and lots of things are spoken of and yet exist only in the imagination.
No kidding. Or if Bush had actually got OBL at Tora Bora when he had him dead to rights.
If Bush hadn’t been surrounded by other incompetent asswipes, we might have actually had more a few American soldiers in the area of Tora Bora and “dead to rights” would be correct.
Lots. But how many more people would still be alive if we hadn’t decided that a war and occupation were the best way to respond? Lots more. And I know I don’t have to point out that we still don’t have Bin Laden in hand, but I do so anyway because I can’t help myself.
Did we really start out looking for an occupation in Afghanistan or did we screw ourselves into it by failing to seal the deal?
As I remember it, the Taliban did offer to hand over bin Laden, but Bushco wanted a Crusade and rejected talks with the Taliban, just as they rejected offers from the relatively more moderate government in Iran, at the time, with assistance against the Taliban and al-Qaeda. God it’s great to have such pros in charge.
No, the Taliban most definitely did not. They said that they could never hand him over to non-believer, but said that, if we could prove to them that bin Laden caused 9/11, they would expel him and/or hand him to another Islamic government for trial.
From Guardian 2001.10.24 article: [snip]
“If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved” and the bombing campaign stopped, “we would be ready to hand him over to a third country”, Mr Kabir added.
But it would have to be a state that would never “come under pressure from the United States”, he said….
Yup. That’s the kind of bullshit the Taliban was still trying to hand out years after we had demanded bin Laden and years after the UN resolution demanding that he be turned over.
They were still trying to say that we should prove him guilty and then they still wouldn’t comply.
http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/U…..penElement
go to Judicial Watch..the right wing group that attacked Clinton..they have the Cheney Oil pipeline maps.
and psss..there were no “IMAGINARY PIPELINES” planned ..they were real.
http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/afghanistan.asp
IN 1998 AMERICA WANTED NEW GOVERNMENT IN AFGHANISTAN TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF OIL PIPELINE
America has wanted a new government in Afghanistan since at least 1998, three years before the attacks on 11 September 2001. The official report from a meeting of the U.S. Government’s foreign policy committee on 12 February 1998, available on the U.S. Government website, confirms that the need for a West-friendly government was recognised long before the War on Terror that followed September 11th:
“The U.S. Government’s position is that we support multiple pipelines…
The Unocal pipeline is among those pipelines that would receive our
support under that policy. I would caution that while we do support the
project, the U.S. Government has not at this point recognized any
governing regime of the transit country, one of the transit countries,
Afghanistan, through which that pipeline would be routed. But we do
support the project.”
[ U.S. House of Reps., “U.S. Interests in the Central Asian Republics”, 12 Feb 1998 ]
“The only other possible route [for the desired oil pipeline] is across,
Afghanistan which has of course its own unique challenges.”
[ “U.S. Interests in the Central Asian Republics”, 12 Feb 1998 ]
“CentGas can not begin construction until an internationally recognized
Afghanistan Government is in place.”
[ “U.S. Interests in the Central Asian Republics”, 12 Feb 1998 ]
The Afghanistan oil pipeline project was finally able to proceed in May 2002. This could not have happened if America had not taken military action to replace the government in Afghanistan.
THE CONQUEST OF AFGHANISTAN BEGAN BEFORE 9/11
The war on Afghanistan was sold to the public as a reaction to the attacks on 11 September 2001. However, the war was planned before the infamous 9/11 disaster, and the military action began long before the World Trade Center fell.
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pssst… .there were and still are any number of pipelines planned, just as there used to be all those holes in the ground where people had drilled for oil and not found any.
Calling a planned pipeline route a real pipeline is about the same as saying that one of those dry holes is an oil well.
Saying, as bluebutterfly does, that a planned pipeline route is the real reason for an invasion is…….. out there.
I agree with the idea that the US wanted a different government in Afghanistan prior to 9/11. Actually, almost the entire world wanted a different government in Afghanistan prior to 9/11. This was not a secret. The Taliban was a pretty loathsome bunch of knuckledraggers and not a regime recognized by anyone but Pakistan and,IIRC, the Saudis.
There were UN resolutions condemning them long before 9/11.
And now there will be 50 ‘benchmarks’ for ’success’ ; wonder where holding an honest election will be among those benchmarks?
Nice link. Honest elections seems like it would be pretty far down on any list, wouldn’t it? Seems like even having an election is hard enough at this point.
“The U.S. military is canceling its contract with a controversial private firm that was producing background profiles of journalists seeking to cover the war that graded their past work as “positive,” “negative” or “neutral,” Stars and Stripes has learned.
“The Bagram Regional Contracting Center intends to execute a termination of the Media Analyst contract,” belonging to The Rendon Group, said Col. Wayne Shanks, chief of public affairs for International Security Assistance Forces–Afghanistan.
The announcement follows a week of revelations by Stars and Stripes in which military public affairs officers who served in Afghanistan said that as recently as 2008 they had used reporter profiles compiled by The Rendon Group, a private public relations firm in Washington, D.C., to decide whether to grant permission to embed with troops on the battlefield. “
http://www.stripes.com/article…..icle=64481
Derrick, please continue to bring us these important observations.
The reason they don’t want to answer the question is because it would mean the end of warring. The MIC does not make much money when there is no war. I feel our money would be better spent reworking infastructure in this country. Heavens know we need the jobs.
Historically Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of Empires. Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it. Hubris is not easily recognized let alone overcome.
I just wanted to say that this was a really informative read. It’s hard to get real, detailed analysis of the war in Afghanistan. I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed it, burndtdan.
OT question. Does anyone know where Christy is? I’ve been on vacation, so I might have missed something. Thankin’ y’all.
Looks like her most recent post was the one yesterday morning.
Right-e-o, but she did not actually comment there. But, thanks. You’re a very loyal friend.
Our founding fathers had an answer for that which would be a Declaration of War which defines victory in relation to our national security.
I’m looking that up right now
Yes, the British in colonial America probably thought along the same lines as Mr. Crowe.
The premise of ‘legitimate government’ is very flawed. The notion that military action leads to voluntary consent is a contradiction.
I find this blog particularly repugnant.
Uh…what? My read of your comment is that you oppose the war in Afghanistan…is that correct? If so, maybe you should re-read the above. I oppose the war as well. See prior comments, the post, etc.
Your measures of failure and success assume what hasn’t been established as in fact true. Here’s what I consider a blog that fully grasps the situation:
Thursday, August 27, 2009
Your Winnings, Sir
Well, personally, I am shocked, shocked.
Yes, it is remarkable and tragic that backing the most corrupt Afghan warlords convinced the Afghan people that the US was supporting the most corrupt Afghan warlords. That’s exactly the sort of cultural misunderstanding that constantly bedevils our necessary wars and humanitarian projects. If only the Afghan people understood what we were really trying to do instead of clinging to a limited understanding based only on the narrow category of what we are doing. How will we ever win the hearts and minds of such a mistrustful people?
What is America doing in Afghanistan again? I mean, does there exist any longer an official rationale for our war there? I keep hearing that The Obama is going to escalate the war there, and yet even those stock phrases that attend our Iraq occupation–stable, self-foverning, etc.–seem mostly absent from the present official discourse on The Other War, The Good War, The Necessary War, what have you.
Domino theories have always been popular with Democratic administrations, and it seems that the effort to deny Islamofascocializism a “safe haven” (By the way, America, can you please retire this redundancy? You ever hear of an unsafe haven?) is just a recapitulation of our various efforts to deny International Communism a foothold in Southeast Asia or Latin America or North Africa or whereverthefuckelse. Well, I suppose if we don’t fight them in Afghanistan, we’ll have to fight them in our our own backyard: Pakistan.
alank, I remain confused. There’s almost no daylight between the perspective I’ve been writing from for weeks and the perspective shown in this article.
Rational people have raised so many sensible objections to the invasion of both Afghanistan and Iraq ir boggles the mind.
The justifications given are always some bizarre form of circular reasoning. And of course these invasions and occupations ignore the simple fact of international law which allows any people to resist an occupation or invasion. This makes invasion, attack and occupation illegal and the acts of resists “legal”. But it is that resistance which is used to justify our presence. We are fighting against “terrorists” and insurgents.
First these so called enemies are not a threat to the USA. If you insert yourself your army your influence into another nation they have every right to resist and fight to get you your army and you influence out.
Most recognize that our presence in that region is to “protect” our national interests – that was the old catchphrase which meant we needed to be sure we had oil and the ability to make sure we had all we wanted and that it could not be shut off from us. Hence, political and military control of the region was about oil for decades… and continues today.
Afghanistan offers another reason to control the region and that is the billions made in the illegal drug trade. This money is used to make people rich and to purchase weapons which are inserted into various regional conflicts to control people who are not compliant with their masters.
The naked truth of why we fight is very ugly.
It’s understood, is it not, that Hamid Karzai was an employee of Unocal?
And the zillions that we were giving Pakistan, were quickly funneled into helping the Taliban overcome the government that hung on after the Russians left. The equation is clear:
No Pakistani help? (Using the U.S. Treasury)
No Taliban.
And it’s not only ugly is would make it very illegal and all those who participated in these wars would be war criminals no different that the Nazis in WWII.
What is very troubling is all the soldiers who are sent to fight believing that they are doing the right thing when they have been duped to commit murder and atrocities on innocent people.
The support of the over arching policy has been embraced by so many it is terrifying to live in a society which is much like the third reich.
The use of the word “threat” must be stopped and at least those who use it MUST define EXACTLY what those threats are and how they are to be met. My view is there is no threat and what we see is acting out of disgruntled disenfranchised mischief makers who don’t want Americans in their neighborhood.
This is not a force that requires the full force of the US military to counter.
This is a pretty good read on the whole thing:
OIL
Excellent article, Derrick. It made my day to see the case against the war in Afghanistan made. One might add that one reason the government in Kabul has no legitimacy was its craven solicitation of support from murderous warlords like Dostum.
Why don’t we just say it, and repeat it, starting now:
U.S. Out of Iraq and Afghanistan!
So if the issue is ensuring that Afghanistan does not become a haven for al Quaeda, there are two ways of doing it. (A) Have a government in Afghanistan that will go after al Quaeda; (B) go after al Quaeda ourselves in the border region with Pakistan.
The Bush administration pursued A because it looked cheap, and they failed (assuming they wished to succeed) to execute it properly. The proper actions in 2002-2008 might well have succeeded before the Afghan people became cynical about the US presence. The current situation and the botched election indicate that A is no longer an option.
So how do we do B, given that the Taliban is still active in Afghanistan and resurgent in Pakistan?
Or is there a C, which involves increased vigilance in the area and a strategic retreat, removing troops from Afghanistan? This will mean either a civil war or a devolution of power to warlords (including the Taliban) in ethnic strongholds. It will prove a loss of face to the US unless it results in the destruction of al Quaeda by another method (intense international law enforcement comes to mind). It will “demoralize the CIA and military” and possibly have domestic political consequences for Obama of the sort that faced Jimmy Carter. While discussion on lefty weblogs has often promoted a withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, it matters very much how such a withdrawal is done and what else is done. It also matters that there should be collaboration with the NATO countries that are backstopping us in Afghanistan instead of treating them as international political cover. Some of those countries very well might have better intelligence (of both kinds) when it comes to this issue than the US, which is hobbled by eight years of “tell me what I want to hear and do what I want you to do” leadership..
An excellent assessment. Too few people bother to read the theory behind COIN warfare. To current policy makers, it appears to be viewed as the military equivalent of magic: something that just makes the problem go away.
The problem in Afghanistan, as in Iraq and Vietnam, is that our politicians lack the stomach for losing wars. To win a war you have to define a concrete, finite objective. You have to tell people what they will win when they win the war. But in so doing, you also define potential loss in concrete terms. Defeat is when you don’t achieve the predefined goal or when you attain in a way that is not worth the cost. So our politicians–and generals, for the most part, are now politicians–set the vaguest possible objectives and then, when even these are clearly unattainable, substitutie something else. Bait and switch becomes endless war.
I think that our legitimate objectives following 9/11 were quite limited: catching Osama Bin Laden, bankrupting Al Qaeda, and punishing the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan for harboring Al Qaeda. Only the last was achieved to any degree, and it was over with when our air strikes let the Northern Alliance drive the Taliban over the border. Stabilizing Afghanistan or turning it into a Central Asian Canada was never a possible or legitimate goal.
We can’t prevent a resurgence of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan by COIN or any other military strategy. We can at best punish the Afghans again when and if they let Al Qaeda become a problem for us again. Otherewise, Afghanistan’s problems are their own doing and they should be left to deal with them.
It’s World War II’s fault. We succeeded with a (then necessary) objective of unconditional surrender. Politicians (and too many generals) think that that implied unconditional surrender is a concrete, finite objective in every situation.
To accomplish that, Roosevelt and Congress put normal life on hold for the duration, which fortunately was only four years. It could have been much longer if the Soviet Union was not so tempting to Hitler. Or if Japan had not tried to conquer China or had not overextended itself in Southeast Asia.
Well said.
I don’t think we can blame World War II per se–maybe the subsequent spin, but not the war. Unconditional surrender was a viable objective if only because they had entities that could surrender–the German Reich government and the Japanese Emperor–and a pretty fair idea of the resources they needed and were prepared to devote to the task.
Moreover, Roosevelt and his generals and admirals, with the possible exceptions of MacArthur and LeMay, were not as worried about their reputations and political prospects as they were about actually surviving as a nation. Vietnam, Iraq, Salvador, and Afghanistan are bully-boy wars that, despite the rhetoric, pose no threat to the survival of anyone except the high-school graduates that get sent out their to be killed.
Gee, the American puppet regime in Kabul stages an election, and now there are questions about whether the election is “legitimate?” How, pray tell, on God’s green earth, how any election run by a puppet regime ever be considered “legitimate?” Only in corporate imperial America can such stupid questions be taken seriously…
End US imperial criminal hostile military occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Wait, there was election fraud in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet? Who could have predicted?
I agree the counterinsurgency strategy has failed, but more than this the Obama Administration still has no Afghanistan policy. And no, mucking about there for the indefinite future does not count as one.
Graveyard of Empires. Huh?