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How Efforts Like Occupy’s Rolling Jubilee Could Undermine the Credit Reporting System

By: dpboehm Monday November 12, 2012 3:31 am

Much of the progressive intelligensia has been yawning over Occupy’s newest initiative to buy up and forgive distressed debt. The effort is seen as futile or useful only as a means of attracting attention to the issue of staggering personal, educational, and medical debt as a result of decades of declining household income. There is more to the story.

Strike Debt Protest Inside Chase Bank HQ, September 17 2012

In the not too distant past, debtors would often make deals with collection companies where they would pay all or a portion of the debt in exchange for completely removing the collection account from their records. In effect, these “pay for delete” agreements allowed a debtor to “buy” a better credit score. Despite claims to the contrary, this was and is completely legal. This was a good deal for the debtor because a collection account marked “paid” or “settled” on your report is only slightly better than an unpaid collection account–and can result in the collection account staying on your report even longer. With this arrangement, a person who had come on hard times, but was now able to pay could improve their credit score quickly. It was a good deal for the collection company because it provided something to bargain with besides harassment and created a real incentive for recovery of debt purchased for five cents on the dollar. The only people who didn’t make out in this deal were the credit reporting agencies (CRAs).

CRAs got hip to this arrangement and were not amused. Their industry is based on providing data which banks and credit providers use to assign risk,  and they make metric shit tonnes of money doing it. They also provide the threat under which our modern system of debt peonage labors. Want to find a decent job or place to live? Better not miss a payment or get sick without insurance. If people could get rid of blemishes that would normally stay on credit reports for years, this meant that the data that banks bought from CRAs was less valuable and the threat of collection activity wasn’t as great.  The CRA’s sprang into action and began cracking the whip on collection agencies to stop “pay for deletes,” if they continued, the CRAs would stop reporting their debts, which would make it impossible to do their seedy business. So now when a debtor offers to pay for a delete, most collection agencies will refuse, sometimes saying it’s illegal (it’s not) or that CRAs won’t let them.

Here is where Occupy (or others like them) come in. The trick is that the debtor needs to know that the debt has been purchased and forgiven (this would be an added expense for those involved in the effort). With this knowledge, the debtor disputes the collection activity (this is legitimate, because the debt is no longer owed). The CRA will contact the owner of the debt to find out if the debt has been paid or settled or if they even own it. If the owner does not respond (nothing requires them to), the CRA is required by law to remove the collection account–like it never happened. If this starts happening on a large scale, the value of the CRAs data is reduced as their expenses are increased.

So there is a chance to disrupt the credit reporting complex, but it would take a lot of money to even make a small dent. As for helping those whose debt is being purchased and making a statement about the function of debt in our financial system, those are worthwhile goals too.

Photo by Elizabeth Brossa of the Chupacabras Affinity Group, used with permission.

UAW Urges Solidarity with Korean Auto Workers–What Does It Mean?

By: dpboehm Monday December 6, 2010 7:18 pm

I got the following message from the UAW (I’m on their email list) on December 3rd, the same Friday the Korea trade deal was taken out with the trash  announced.

Show solidarity with striking Hyundai workers

The UAW is offering its full support to a strike by temporary workers at a Hyundai plant in Ulsan, South Korea. These workers, who earn very low wages and have no job security, have been occupying an auto plant since Nov. 15 when the subcontractor who employed them announced that it was closing.

But it was later discovered that Hyundai was the actual subcontractor – all to avoid directly hiring the workers as required under South Korean law.

Not only has Hyundai refused to meet the workers’ demands, but it has filed lawsuits against dozens of the workers involved in the work stoppage. The powerful Korean Metal Workers’ Union declared a strike of its members on Dec. 1 to show support for the 500 workers occupying the seat-manufacturing plant in Ulsan.

The UAW will hold a peaceful demonstration at the Hyundai America Technical Center in Ann Arbor, Mich., on Monday, Dec. 6, at 4 p.m. to show our support for these workers.

The demonstration will feature a speech on the importance of global solidarity by UAW President Bob King, and a vigil to show support for Korean workers. UAW and community members are urged to attend and show their support for the striking South Korean workers.

The event, which will feature music from striking Detroit Symphony Orchestra members, will be held outside the Hyundai America Technical Center, Inc., 6800 Geddes Road, Ann Arbor, Mich.

So what does it mean? I’m all for real international labor solidarity (not the kind of labor imperialism that defined international labor activities until recently) but really, on the same day as the trade deal?  I am not a staunch protectionist, if a bilateral deal could be struck that was a win/win for both countries I would support it (I would add that that I have never seen a trade agreement that met this standard). Trade policy should reflect national interests and labor advocacy should reflect class interests; the calculus of this agreement is almost uniformly harmful to the majority of working class people in both nations. Labor movements have been historically divided between member advocacy and overall class advocacy, in this case the UAW seems to have failed in both columns. So what does it mean?

Was there discussions between the Korean auto workers and UAW about the deal?

Do elements within the UAW believe the deal is a forgone conclusion so they might as well “go-along-to-get-along” and dabble in international activity at the same time?

Is there a naive belief that that this agreement could strengthen the union’s position in a strategic way by allowing it to work with an international partner?

Is this “feel good” kabuki theatre for internationally minded activists?

Is it a big coincidence?–didn’t think so

Anna Eshoo will be on KGO-San Francisco 810am between 10 and 11am PT.

By: dpboehm Thursday November 12, 2009 9:47 am

Will Jane call in?

If you want to call in, dial any of the bay area area codes 415 510 408 650 707 925 + 8080180. You can also listen on the web.

Edit-between 10 and 11am