
One of the early donation sites at Zucotti (Photo: shankbone, flickr)
In my attic, I had 3 sub-zero rated sleeping bags, one of which I’d used about 2 weeks/year for maybe a decade, 30 years ago. The other two were less used. When I returned from backpacking, the equipment was washed and properly stored. All 3 are in like-new condition. Also a stuff sack of winter clothing. The replacement value is probably around $500. (My earlier higher guess turned out to be wrong after I found some prices online; it’s been a long time since I bought camping equipment.) I won’t use them again, so off to OWS we went.
mzchief found out in advance that the drop-off for supplies is in the United Federation of Teachers building at 52 Broadway. Online subway directions were not only clear, but even told you which end of the 600 foot train to aim for (front in my case).
It was a fabulous weather day. Sunny in high 60s.
The drop went smoothly and the guy receiving equipment was friendly and appreciative, especially when I told him that the sleeping bags are winter rated. While I was there, another volunteer brought in a whole bin on wheels full of medical supplies. Many items were piled up in the large room, but I’m sure they’ll go through them quickly once the weather turns nasty.
I asked the volunteers where Zuccotti Park is. I had looked at google map which was extraordinarily unhelpful owing to a lot of little streets in the area with no names on them, and for the big street, Broadway, the name was off the resolution I was looking at. Zuccotti Park is 3-4 blocks north of 52 Broadway.
When I got there, I realized that my first job in the Wall Street area (ca 1974) was in the building, 115 Broadway, on the south side of ZP. My former office, on the 5th floor, has a window that looks out on the ‘park,’ which in those days was a rectangle of uninviting concrete, the purpose of which was to make your trek shorter if you needed to diagonalize it. If I’d googled ZP instead of looking at the map, I’d have recognized it immediately, from the picture of the building.
Yesterday, the park was crowded with mostly small tents and tarps, with narrow paths between.
Occupy is much more complicated to run than the anti-Vietnam war protests of the late-1960s, early 1970s, mostly one-day marches and demonstrations. Getting large crowds to show up, permits, speakers, took a lot of work, but was straightforward.
Supplies are the most obvious problem for Occupy, but those seem to have come together through financial and in-kind donations.
spocko’s various posts on keeping-the-peace techniques, including not just how to handle unruly occupiers but also authority figures, alerted me to other serious problems and how to handle them. Here’s one example.
The problems I’ve recognized in just the past few days are the added potential for assaults out of sight in the tents. And theft from the insecure tents. It is very difficult to handle such situations. There can be true and false accusations and all the other complications, that organized societies have established elaborate systems to handle, that OWS must confront on the fly.
The sidewalk around the four sides of the park is open for pedestrians. I sat on a low marble wall and watched passers-by. They came in a variety of ages and dress, but were generally whiter and better dressed than the Occupiers. Lots of picture taking and curiosity going on. A double decker tour bus stopped but I was too far away to hear the guide’s spiel. One upper-middle-age man in a pin-striped suit was giving a “first hand” report on his cell phone. I heard him say, “They have a library,” and read off a book title, something about capitalism.
I moved slowly through the park. Wide range of pigmentation, other kinds of diversity. No suits and ties on the men, and no high heels for the women, though. Wide range of communication, topics and styles. Some seemed exceedingly earnest and intense, others more conversational. There was a speaker with a microphone and small crowd but I did not get close enough to listen. Chess game. Food table (peanut butter, bread, rolls).
I don’t like crowded situations, so I didn’t stay in the park for long.
At least one person was using the opportunity for his 15 minutes of fame: cowboy hat, boots, tattoos, standing upright on a corner, perfectly placed to be camera bait. I did not read his sign because OWS is not about him.
Everything was peaceful and humming with activity, ideas.
There were 2-3 uniformed police on each side of the park. They looked relaxed. One police lookout tower, perhaps 30’ above street level.
I talked with two women, one stationed at a table in front of a large National Guard style tent, the other a visitor. The topic when I came up to the conversation was safety of women, and I gather a larger tent or so will be reserved for women who feel vulnerable. The woman in front, in her 30s, had been homeless for a couple of years, and knew how to spot potential trouble makers and had techniques for handling it.
Some have suggested that Tea Party and OWS movements should combine in their shared concerns. I attended one TP rally a couple of years ago, and nothing could be more impossible than the two groups coordinating on anything.
Forget for the moment that the TP is a captive of the Kochs, exactly one of the ways that OWS points out that the system is perverted. Another insurmountable gap is the way that the two groups live, behave, and think about the world. TPers are overwhelmingly white, neatly dressed, orderly, with an organized list of speakers on a platform above the people. They come; they listen; they clap; they leave. They have a narrow list of grievances. OWS is almost the opposite on every front. They are messy (though there are crews, a bin of brooms, garbage is sorted into recycles, compost, and trash and they are maintaining what cleanliness and order is possible under the circumstances). OWS grievances range all over the lot because the 1%ers’ system is broken at every point.
After lunch (best street vendor sign: 99% vegetarian), I went to see Margin Call (a dark film about flawed Wall Street risk models and how the firm, never named, that figured it out first and stuffed it wherever they could, survived). Then I called it a day.



50 Comments

Good diary. Thanks for going and reporting.
Thanks. We don’t need to go with the “if it bleeds, it leads.”
Can’t imagine any corp media would be interested in my “peaceful & humming” and relaxed looking police.
Thanks for the report.
My best friend recently took a job as CIO of a small law firm located at 45 Wall Street. Told me he had a great view of the occupation, and now I understand why.
Thanks for putting pictures in my head, eCAHN! Great writeup, and thoughtful of you to donate.
Good job, ecahn. nice report and donation. good on ya.
one little bugaboo of mine here:
“OWS grievances range all over the lot because the 1%ers’ system is broken at every point.”
True, the one percent system is broken. But when a larger group is actually represented, it inherently will contain a larger set of grievances. TPers advantage is a small, narrow focus. My analogy is Vermont v. California. One is a sleek little sloop and the other is a very large barge. apples and oranges.
thanks for the visit and eyewitness account.
Ask your friend to do a rough approximation of how often he observes “peaceful & humming” and how often the reverse.
Just out of curiosity.
The woman I talked to at the end said that assault was a serious problem, as every single person should be able to maintain her/his physical safety and integrity, but not one to be exaggerated. It would be interesting to have stats on … Hmmm I’m not sure on how to even figure out what appropriate stats would be considering the living conditions are so unusual. So comparing assault in any other population with what might or might not be happening at OWS wouldn’t be the slightest bit comparable.
That’s is the one BIG takeaway for me from having gone to observe it for myself. Just how damned difficult it is to conduct anything like that.
Good point about the larger the group the wider the grievances.
I hope that you might venture “in” … to visit OWS, eCAHN, whenever the mood might move you to do so.
Your “impressions” are much appeciated and far more interesting and useful than any corpse media “report” … ever could be.
Recommended most happily, naturally, to all those many firedogs who have come to appreciate the superlative eCAHN humor, deft insight, and canny recognition of pompous BS, in all its many guises …
;~DW
Nice diary E-Cahn recommended. Doesn’t feel good to be a part of this movement? I think it gets in your blood and all you want to do is help. Thanks for your report and the energy to get out and help. I know sometimes for me it’s a struggle. God job.
I’m in the beginning stages of deacquisitioning. So it was truly a pleasure for me to think about what is in my attic and get it out to such a worthy cause.
He’s so damn busy I don’t think he gets much of a chance to do much observing other than when coming and going from work.
I can tell you, however, that he is COMPLETELY in agreement with the goals of OWS. He’s been wise to ills of the corporatocracy for quite some time. In fact, his previous job was at a non-profit and he only took this position after the new boss at his old job replaced key staff with his old cronies. (Imagine that! First time in the history of corporations…Not.)
I don’t engage in conversation cold turkey very easily. Just sitting quietly & wandering slowly is more my initial style. When I went to write it up, I was surprised at how much I had picked up that I hadn’t read about anywhere.
Yes, and everyone has to do it in her/his own way.
I testify to the joys of minimalism and (voluntary) austerity.
Can’t spell today but I think you get my point. Sorry
That is the key I think everyone can help in their own way and pretty soon there’s a lot of help.
Great diary for those in the hinterland who can’t make it into the big city.
In the parallel universe, Robin Leach conducted similar tours for Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Trying to picture Robin filming a show at Zuccotti Park.
It is your powers of keen observation, of seeing, clearly, and actually listening, coupled to impeccable reflection, eCAHN, which give your insights such power … I am rather certain that those with whom you do engage in conversation carry away a very similar impression.
DW
Great diary. I like how you mention everything from all the angles as you saw it. Not “it’s all rainbows and sparkly ponies”, nor is it “a dirty filthy hellhole full of dirty filthy hippies”.
I appreciate the honesty.
Great laugh.
Digital cameras & cell phones are way beyond my pay grade, so no visuals from my visit.
But as a child, I always liked listening to the radio & forming my own mental images of what the Shadow (when he was in shadow mode) looked like.
So graft your own mental images onto my words.
“Fair & balanced” TM
Nice of you to do.
Images from the words have been evoked in sufficient supply, thanks.
I love writing that manages to convey the presence of the writer as well as what she/he is looking at. This is that, eCAHNomics, and thank you very much. Having read your intention on the daily blog, I felt included all the way. I too, have that feeling about crowd density – my nephew has Asperghers and we tootle along happily together online where it’s safe. Something in the genes, I guess.
You did a good thing!
I am having to try to re-balance how (Un)Occupy is occupying my life. I really can’t do it all, and I am working on how to keep everything up, not dropping balls everywhere.
Thanks for the report, eCAHN. I do think that having a permanent site is fairly critical, and we are struggling with that ever since we were kicked out of ours.
But we are keeping on. I believe that we are having an impact, and the impact will continue to grow as the Occupations continue to expand. The TP just does not have it in them to work this hard. Occupy’s commitment will win the day.
I don’t have an emotional problem with crowd density. I rode the Lex subway to work every day for years, long before they had a/c or had improved the line, like running enough trains so that you weren’t being pushed against another body on every side during rush hour.
I just don’t like it. So when I have a choice, I opt out.
It seems to be one of Manhattan’s binaries. Some just love being in crowds, others not so much.
But if there is any other reason for feeling uncomfortable in crowds, then I can really understand staying away from them.
Permanent site is critical.
One thing I had to laugh about. Mayor Mike claims that OWS is harming tourist trade. I’ll bet with some clever advertising, NYC could make it into a big tourist attraction (she typed, chuckling conspiratorily).
Without a permanent site, could you just do a daily schedule of meetings, marches, etc? Don’t know how you would get publicity, though, if site changes.
Great report, eCAHNomics. Thanks for going into the City and braving the crowds. I’m not happy rubbing elbows with lots of people either. It’s fun and stimulating for a bit, but then I need some space.
City seems a lot less crowded than before the housing bubble burst, and I have the luxury of going at non-rush hours. Got a seat on most of my subway segments.
Thanks to behind-the-scener who added the photo of one of the first donation sites at ZP.
Setup is substantially different now. Large room inside the first floor of UFT building. In the back of the Amalgamated Bank branch at same addy as UFT. Needed the added space to accommodate added equipment for winter, plus tents take up a lot more room in the park.
One complaint: no mention of any kittehs. You mean that OWS has all these people and not one kitty-kat for company, not even a begging streetwalker like CAHNstance in her pre-adoption days?
Harumph. I put all this work into going in & writing it up and you have the nerve to complain.
Actually an interesting point. I think the only pet I saw was one dog. And I think he wasn’t a seeing-eye dog, but I’m not sure. I just glanced at the signs with the rules on them, and they seemed more about human behavior (no smoking of any substance, no alcohol, as well as the usual stuff about good behavior). So I don’t know if at the end of the list they have rules about pets or feeding stray cats or dogs.
I would if I were they. Conditions are too crowded, people could be allergic, etc. Could bring in fleas & ticks. Pets wander off & owners get upset & cause a ruckous looking or asking others to help. Don’t know what the mice/rats/cockroaches problem is like. I didn’t see any. The OWSers are being careful with their garbage, as I noted above & hopefully the city is doing a daily pickup.
Thanks for bringing another aspect of daily life to our attention. It’s not one I’d thought of.
You know, I was certain I saw a news item about vets volunteering at OWS. Yup, found it.
Occupy Pet Clinic
Feline, canine and murine occupiers are being cared for.
Actually I was a little surprised that at least one enterprising curious little kitty had wandered into the encampment and said, “Hey, my kinda place…meow, meow, pet me”.
supposed to be “hadn’t” wandered into…
I WANT AN EDIT FUNCTION, AND I WANT IT NOW!
Great diary, eChan. This is the impression i get when visiting Occupy Cleveland and I would imagine the other Occupies as well.
That any disturbance is NOT created by the occupiers and that their commitment to a continued and peaceful protest is resolute.
Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah. Authors get an edit function on diaries, including in comments.
Which makes it all the more puzzling why other commenters don’t have access to it.
All the years I worked in the Wall St and midtown areas, I never saw a stray cat. Cahnstance came from a residential neighborhood in Harlem, directly south of Marcus Garvey park.
Kewl link. Once again facts trump speculation. I stand corrected. Thanks for posting that.
I think the vast majority of Occupiers are committed to the values that you & I support, that you articulate.
That does not absolve Occupiers from responsibility for others (even the 15-minutes-of-famers) who try to usurp the movement for their personal advantage. If you start something, you must take all the consequences.
And that is a huge responsibility.
Good for you to venture in to the city. I’m glad you got rid of baggage and helped at the same time.
Thanks for your observations, because the mean a lot coming from someone I Know.
And, a movie!
Sounds like quite a day, E.
No problem. I just happened to come across it a few days ago. I think Google News highlighted it for me – probably a result of searches on feline and canine diseases and issues… Or maybe as a result of a search on how to remove cat urine odor from a sleeping bag!
Whatever it was, the AI that Google uses is getting entirely too competent.
Oh, and wonderful diary! Totally recommended.
And not just any movie! Here’s my review.
Topical to OWS.
Thanks for the diary, eCAHN. I’m glad to get a sense of it. I’ve been out of the loop for a couple of weeks (father’s surgery, sister’s visit), but I’m so curious…. drum circles? Any of those that you saw or heard?
I did not personally observe any drum circles but I was not there for very long.
But I’d guess I might have been there longer than the ambulance chasing govt mouthpieces aka the media.
Sorry to hear about your father’s surgery, though hoping your sister’s visit was more pleasant.
I understand that the barricades got pulled down. That’s what the merchants complained about more than anything else — the barricades the cops put up against peaceful protesters, and which strangled foot traffic.
With those gone, betcha some enterprising folks could do OWS tours.
I don’t know where the barricades used to be. The streets leading toward the stock exchange are all barricaded on the east side of BWAY such that only foot traffic can get thru. But there are no small businesses there, only entrances to office towers. Small biz on Broadway now not barricaded at all. I saw about a half dozen street vendors, and traffic on Bway was flowing slowly. (Wasn’t sure what the surface situation would be, which is primary reason why I took the subway.) In the short time I was there, I did see the one tour bus I mentioned in the post.
Of course, tours & curiosity seekers are the LAST thing the 1%ers want to happen.
If I go back (I have more stuff that I could donate), and the weather is good, I’ll sit on the same low marble wall and start small conversations with passers-by, like just asking them what they think, and why.
I look like a TPer (without a hat with tea bags stapled to it), so I can get away with starting conversations that others might not. It takes me one or two times to get the feel of a situation before I can personally engage in it.
There was one man at one of the main entrances to the park who was being forceful about expressing his opinion. I thought his demeanor would be offputting.
Great diary! I’m sure the cold weather gear was most welcome.
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One of the things that’s so funny to me about all of this is that I worked in that area for so long, roughly from 1974 to 1986. After that I still worked for “Wall St” firms but in midtown locations.
Anyhow, I haven’t spent much time in the Wall St. area since 1986, but being down there yesterday reminded me of so many stories. Recognizing the first bldg I worked in on the south side of ZP was a real trip.
The only other time in recent years that I was there was 9/12. But then the shock of the event was so strong that I was not into nostalgia.
Wishing something like OWS had got started a decade or two sooner.
Hopefully, it’s better late than never, and that it works.
Good to get a second look, I think. All this “look forward, not back” is ridiculous. But, hey, that’s just me. I’m glad you got to see the place again through new eyes, and I hope that you will update us as you check in again. For those of us not close enough to get a first hand look, the reports of others is so educational and inspiring… and you have a good eye and a knack for reporting clearly.