At a town hall meeting Sunday afternoon(1) in Anchorage, U.S. Senate campaign GOP nominee Joe Miller was asked a long question on how we should keep illegal immigrants out.
His short answer: "If East Germany can do it, we can do it!"
After the meeting, Miller was approached by Tony Hopfinger, an award-winning journalist and editor of the on-line news source, The Alaska Dispatch. Here’s what happened next:
Hopfinger, who had learned at the last minute of Miller’s planned appearance at the public school, ducked into a hallway after the meeting to pose his own questions to Miller.
Hopfinger had been trying to ask Miller questions when two or three guards told him to leave or risk being charged with trespassing.
When Hopfinger continued to try to ask questions, one of the guards put the reporter in an arm-bar and then handcuffed him.
Hopfinger was released after police arrived.
The reporter was on public property where a public event was being held at the time of the incident.
Here’s KTUU TV’s early print coverage:
According to Hopfinger, Miller’s security team pushed him and he pushed back because he felt his personal space was being invaded. He says guards detained him and accused him of trespassing, although the town hall was a public event held at a public building.
Miller security guard William Fulton said in a statement Sunday that he was responding to Hopfinger’s actions.
“The Dispatch reporter repeatedly pushed a camera into the face of Mr. Miller,” Fulton said. “He continued to aggressively pursue him. I told the reporter several times that he needed to stop and that he was trespassing, he ignored me. He then proceeded to stalk Mr. Miller and even shoved an individual into a locker. Based upon this trespass and his assault, we detained him and escorted him from the premises.”
Hopfinger says he waited for about half an hour in handcuffs for police to show up. No arrests have been made and no charges have been filed.
Last Monday, under increasing pressure from the Alaska press to release more details of why his employment as an attorney for the Fairbanks North Star Borough (FNSB) ended in controversy, Miller scheduled, canceled, then rescheduled a press conference(2). At that event, Miller closed, stating:
We’ve drawn a line in the sand. You can ask me about background, you can ask about personal issues — I’m not going to answer. I’m not.
During this past week, press hostility toward Miller understandably grew. As a result of Miller’s refusal to sign a release allowing the FNSB to release his employment records, the former mayor of Fairbanks, Republican Jim Whitaker made a public statement(3) on Miller’s job performance there:
Republican U.S. Senate candidate Joe Miller was nearly fired from his job as a borough attorney in 2008 after using borough computers in an attempt to oust the chairman of the Republican Party of Alaska, former borough Mayor Jim Whitaker said Wednesday.
Whitaker said Miller’s actions violated the Fairbanks North Star Borough’s ethics policy but did not result in a termination because the borough needed Miller to continue working on its lawsuit about how much to tax the trans-Alaska pipeline system.
Miller eventually resigned from borough employment on Sept. 1, 2009. “I’m speaking now because this occurred on my watch as mayor, because I know the truth, and because I have an obligation to tell the truth,” Whitaker said in an interview with the Daily News-Miner.
He said that, as a former mayor, he would prefer not to be involved in “the political melee.” “I also felt it was appropriate to give Mr. Miller enough time to come forward himself,” Whitaker said. “It’s clear with his statements of the other day, he’s not going to do that.
That was Wednesday. Alaska legal blogger, Wickersham’s Conscience made a case that Whitaker’s information indicates Miller engaged in criminal activity in his abuse of co-workers’ computers:
So Miller was allegedly was using other folks’ computers, without their permission or knowledge, so he could pretend to be sending votes by someone else in the contest for Republican Party State Chair. He is alleged to have been stuffing the electronic ballot box, using Borough computers. Alaska’s criminal laws have something to say about this.
WC goes on to list the felony statutes Miller appeared to have violated. The Miller campaign was quick to deny that Miller had done anything wrong. On Late Thursday, Miller’s dad, Rex, sent out an email that leaked out through the Tea Party Express grapevine by Friday. In it, Rex Miller asserted that what his son told him he had done with the computers was different from what former mayor Whitaker had described:
One noon hour, on his own time at the borough, Joe participated in an online poll voting against Randy,” Rostad wrote in the e-mail, recounting the Thursday morning conversation he said he had with Rex Miller. “He used four office computers in the office to do it, thinking this was his chance to boost numbers to get rid of Randy. He emptied the cache files on the computers so the users wouldn’t know what he had done.
Here’s WC‘s response to Rex:
WC is glad that Miller committed his felonies on his lunch hour and not on the Borough clock. However, it’s irrelevant to the real issue. Note that Joe Miller wiped the computers’ cache files afterwards. That’s the one of the places where a computer user leaves “digital fingerprints” of what he or she has done. (Not the only one, Joe.) And that’s very good evidence that Miller knew what he was doing was wrong. He was attempting to conceal the fact a crime had taken place. He was trying to wipe the fingerprints off of the crime scene. That’s certainly evidence he knew he’d done something criminal. Oh,and that’s a separate crime, by the way. Tampering with Evidence, AS 11.56.610, and possibly Tampering with a Public Record, AS 11.56.820.
Polls are being taken over the weekend. I was polled yesterday, and two friends relate that they were polled yesterday and today by firms that asked different questions from those I was asked. The late week Rasmussen Poll, showing Miller at 35%, Lisa Murkowski at 34% and Democrat Scott McAdams at 27% (plus or minus 4.5%) shows a very close race, with McAdams making his biggest jump since the race has been polled.
This race will continue to tighten. Democratic Party gubernatorial nominee Ethan Berkowitz, in a statement issued as I’m writing, has asked Gov. Sean Parnell to look more closely at Miller:
Ethan Berkowitz had a strong reaction upon hearing the news that Alaska Dispatch editor Tony Hopfinger was detained and handcuffed by a private security force hired by Senate candidate Joe Miller.
Berkowitz said, "In this country, journalists have a job to do, which includes exercising their rights and responsibilities under the First Amendment. A free press means that journalists must work without fear of muscle or muzzle.
"The fact that this was a private security guard hired by a U.S. Senate candidate in the heat of a political campaign makes this story even more outrageous. The actions of Mr. Miller’s agents against Mr. Hopfinger must be investigated and prosecuted by the State for violation of criminal statutes."
Berkowitz continued, "Even though Sean Parnell continues to stand behind Joe Miller, I call on him to follow my lead and condemn the Miller campaign for its chilling attack on a free press. That behavior has no place in Alaska, or in any free, representative democracy."
Berkowitz has been pounding Parnell on many issues and that race is tightening up quickly too. Late Friday, Republican Republican Bill Walker, who lost to Parnell in the GOP primary endorsed Berkowitz. Walker has many fierce advocates from the center and from the faction of the GOP that never liked Sarah Palin. Sean Parnell is derisively called "SP version two point zero" by many Republicans, mimicking GOP Rep. Don Young’s categorization of Parnell, for his blandness, as "Captain Zero." In the primary, here’s the way the votes broke down:
Sean Parnell (R) ————– 54,125
Bill Walker (R) ————— 35,734
Ethan Berkowitz (D) ——— 22,607
Hollis French (D) ————- 18,018
Both Walker and French have endorsed Berkowitz, and only polling conducted this coming week will reflect whether Walker’s embrace of Berkowitz will help significantly.
Update: The first video has emerged. It doesn’t show much, but Miller’s assertion that Hopfinger was violent doesn’t appear to hold any water:
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(1) See also "Miller town hall in Anchorage Sunday," http://community.adn.com/node/153735
(2) See also "Miller Refuses to Answer Any More Personal Questions," http://aprn.org/2010/10/11/alaska-news-nightly-october-11-2010/
(3) See also "Former mayor: Miller ‘not truthful’ about borough employment," http://www.ktva.com/topalaskanews/ci_16330640



102 Comments

ho-ly gawd.
Terrific reporting, ET.
rec’d
Great report, ET.
Hopfinger should file criminal charges against Miller and his goons for assault and false imprisonment. He should also file a civil suit against Miller, and name the school district as a co-defendant, just so they get the message that a public event on public property is, you know, open to the public, which includes the press.
Right now, the Dispatch is trying to get the school’s security camera footage of the altercation.
Former Governor’s race candidate Andrew Halcro weighs in at his blog.
So the German translation of tea party is “Stasi.”
It sounds like you live in the wild, wild, west with all the crazy that Alaska is trying to export. I thought Stevens was a nut but it’s looking more like he was on the mild end. Miller needs to be sued.
Bonsai66 has posted a diary at Daily Kos, titled Meet Joe Miller’s Thugs: Drop Zone security, that is very informative. Alaska blogger and journalist Shannyn Moore has posted an essay on Drop Zone’s past at The Mudflats.
Alaska blogger Steve Aufrecht has posted a vimeo of Miller giving his East Germany security model statement at the forum.
I wonder if Sarah will bring handcuffs to her next interview with Katie Couric?
The Press cannot be arrested for asking questions Bloggers are Press. Even if we are not a public forum, on public land asking someone who wants to be a public figure questions is a crime?
Kidnapping Joe’s private security engaged in kidnapping and by threatening to arrest the reporter impersonated a cop. They were either acting under Joe’s order in which case he gets charged too.
Or Joe has to fire the firm.
Why hasn’t the local prosecutor filled kidnapping charges? Or can anyone handcuff anyone else in Alaska if they ask them a tough question?
Follow up from the local police and prosecutor would be nice or is Alaska the new AZ only instead of brown people having no rights its everyone?
“Classic. Those constitution loving Republicans, have somehow lost the Bill of Rights. Freedom of the press or for that matter the people’s right to know or petition the government is met with force. This is merely an example of what lies ahead when they take over the government again. Maybe this time the people and Tea Party will see the Republicans for the frauds they are. Maybe the people will understand that the freedom loving Republicans only love the freedom for their Corp backers to take over the function of the government and to continue their rape and pillage of the middle class. Funny, how they only love freedom when it benefits them, their Corp backers and not the people. Freedom, the constitution, and the law is not something that can be selectively applied to one class and not another.
Hopefully, the reporter will press charges criminally or civilly for false arrest, imprisonment, and kidnap.”
Interesting that T-bagger Joe Miller would invoke Communist East Germany as a role model for how to run the gov’t. Sends chills down my spine.
Interesting comparison is that E-Meg Whitman running for governor of CA has wagged her finger at CA voters and told us that CA businesses should emulate the Communist Chinese business model, especially in regard to how the Communist Chinese gov’t and businesses treat their workers/constituents. ReThug candidate for CA Senate, Carly Fiorina, has also waxed lyrical about Communist China and it’s business model and treatment of workers.
So, uh, Who, excatly, is the “communist” in these pictures? Do T-baggerz “get” what’s being said, or are they so inflamed by RushGlennSarah that they’re not tracking what their masters are actually telling them??
Aw c’mon. What’s a couple felonies among friends? And speaking of GI Joe Miller…
I sure wouldn’t count on that.
Was he referring to immigration or how to deal with the press./s
and how is this different from Brown shirts in Germany and Black shirts in Italy that would intimidate journalists and anyone else they deemed an opponent. Maybe it’s o.k. if they are wearing a Brooks Brothers suit with a flag lapel pin.
Digby had a teabagger chain email saying how we should emulate North Korea and other dictatorships with regards to immigration, so this is not a one-off thing. They believe in zero rights for people who don’t look like them and believe in what they believe. The hallmark of fascism, but I wouldn;t want to be unserious.
Either one. The Stasi does it all…
I would like to know why handcuffing this reporter is not false imprisonment
I’ve seen stuff like that, too. What these ignorant people don’t get is that when you unleash the “dogs of facism,” it ends biting everyone in the butt, not jus the dusky minorities that you so love to hate. It is stupidity on steroids. And I feel that we should all be at least a little fearful of this. These t-baggers are being led by their noses, I don’t care what they *think* or *believe.* They are being brainwashed to act against their own better interests and to shred the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
x2
Hopefully, Miller will continue his long, slow, yet sometimes humorous campaign death spiral all the way to November 2nd, at the same time spending abut $800,00 on ads designed to keep people from voting for Lisa Murkowski.
Go Scott McAdams!
Miller would not be so arrogant unless he knew something, as in the fix is already in.
What the fuck?
How the fuck can you trespass in a public building at a public event?
And why the fuck aren’t those security guards being charged with felony kidnapping and assault?
Whoa!
From a comment at my blog from the owner of the security company, Drop Zone, that Joe the Teabagger hired:
Again why isn’t joe and his security team behind bars this is kidnapping!
Vets need jobs cool but they need training what plays in Iraq does not play in America.
Obviously, this journalist was quite unprofessional and the future Alaskan Senator had no choice but to arrest him for being uncouth. If only he’d followed the lead of Real, Serious journalists at the AP, when they gave McCain some donuts at his own press event back in 2008 or let themselves get sprayed with a squirt gun by Joe Biden in the summer and didn’t ask difficult questions. After all, Real, Serious journalists don’t make politicians feel uncomfortable about possible criminal actions they might have done or anything!
That’s one of the intended benefits of the fascists in conducting their warz: compliant, brain-dead private armies.
Amanda Coyne, Tony Hopfinger’s partner and co-editor at the Dispatch, emailed me last night, stating that they were already making moves to obtain the school’s security videos. They hope to get those today. Whether or not it will be clear that Hopfinger was assaulted before being cuffed, I don’t know. But the GOP controls the Anchorage Police and the State Troopers work for Sean Parnell, who has endorsed Miller.
Great Post of course and better than the other reports I have seen.
But using computers and internet voting to cheat and steal an election? I am shocked! And then concealing the evidence. I hope this not become a regular tactic of the Tea Party Fascists.
These Glock-bearing bozos fit that bill to a Mr. T.
He didn’t merely conceal the evidence, he attempted to destroy it.
There is also an important message that Miller is attempting to send. Journalists posing inappropriate questions to others of his ilk may expect to face the same abuse.
It might be interesting to observe who is part of Michelle Bachmann’s entourage.
See there you guys go again. Obama was right, the cup is always half empty.
You all should take Obama’s advise and concentrate on the GOOD! The cup is half full!
For instance, sure Miller had his jackboots harass and illegally hold this guy. But they only roughed him up a bit, and they didn’t murder him. They didn’t cut his nuts off or even waterboard him.
When Joe Miller has his jackbooted thugs murder these journalists and hangs their heads from a pike on the Alaskan pipeline, that’s when you can start worrying.
Hell, that might even get Barry and Eric’s attention. Maybe.
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Everyone, you MUST click on the diary link to see what sort of charmers Miller has in his thug detail.
Hopfinger must have forgotten that he wasn’t in the designated Free Speech Zone. People seem to have forgotten about those, although I expect to see some large-scale reminders in the near future.
RE: Bachmann — Google “allen quist fetus first wife second wife” and learn all about Allen Quist, the husband of Bachmann’s campaign manager.
From the new Anchorage Daily News article update from 10 minutes ago:
Will anyone be surprised if the teabaggers and know-nothings don’t have the electoral successes they fantasize about they’ll come out with guns blazing?
That is a crime. He has no right to take a persons freedom away in this country! Guards have no arrest authority.
Aspects of this incident remind me of the treatment Mike Stark received in Virginia when he attempted to ask questions of George Allen (“George Allen’s Goons Attack Mike Stark,” by Jane Hamsher, Oct. 31, 2006).
I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for the link!
I hope this story has legs, and that a few percentage points of Alaska Republicans step back from Gestapo Joe and throw in with Murkowski. The combination of Miller dropping and Murkowski rising should make Alaska Democrats comfortable with voting for the Democrat instead of Murkowski, which may be all McAdams needs.
David Dayen has a fresh cross-post already in progress: New Wikileaks Docs Expected; Same Lies About “Blood on Their Hands” Sure to Ensue
And if they do win, they’ll be encouraged to come out with guns blazing. Fascism is nothing to trifle with. You can’t contain it once you let it out. It runs its blood-soaked course.
Bring the troops home. We’re going to need them.
Do the Rethugs also own the US Atty’s office? Or did an atty actually get appointed by Obama and approved by the Senate? Civil rights violation, anyone?
It’s the First amendment for a reason.
Isn’t that false imprisonment?
Seconded get the feds involved.
You have to hit them where they live, sue the shit out of them on multiple levels so that they are chasing their tails trying to keep up. When one judge boots it, which they will, then appeal. Use the system against the like they do against us.
Does everyone who supposedly shoves someone in Alaska get locked up in handcuffs? Is Joe Miller going to turn Alaska into a police state?
Yes the GOP loves nothing like they love cash so take that away from them a court case would reveal who all of Joe’s donor’s are wouldn’t it any bets the Koch brothers names are on the list?
I hope the Dems exploit this GOPers question are Manhood a bunch this election but its the GOP that runs under their Mothers Skirt when the Blogs ask questions.
working on it…
Um, no. (Posse Comitatus)
There is a very good reason US military troops
aren’tweren’t allowed to deploy domestically.http://www.adn.com/2010/10/17/1506223/miller-security-guards-handcuff.html
“Miller . . . said his personal security detail had to take action to detain ‘the irrational blogger.’ ”
http://joemiller.us/2010/10/liberal-blogger-loses-it-at-town-hall-meeting/
Or in the shorthand of the Internet, an IB.
You are welcome! “O Siem” by Susan Aglukark
Thats all I ask thanks:)
Having spent a long time in Germany, it sure sounds like it.
Ask a Nazis how he rationalized his “brown-shirt” behavior? Reporters should hire armed professional body guards to have protection from GOONS!
True, but irrelevant. Muster them out and into civilian law enforcement. This isn’t going to be a handful of militia crazies, it’s going to be tens of thousands of them.
Sounds like an overly aggressive reporter to me.
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/18/alaska.miller.reporter/index.html
No they’re too stupid.
Deciding to follow Ayn Rand (you don’t have to read the crazy [Edited by mod: Please don't go here.] you just have to support her social darwinist ideal) sends your soul flying into the abyss taking your ability to think rationally with it.
FOX, Freedom Works, Tea Partiers and GOP rhetoric have evolved into a mob mentality. Mobs are typically fact challenged, led by bullys, and fueled by ignorance. Sadly, our media feeds them because the media thrives on spectacles. Substance is boring and doesn’t bring in the ratings. We are at a time in history where the loudest rule and the loudest are the most ignorant at the moment. I fear for the future of this country, because we live in a time where education is being ridiculed and ignorance is being championed.
What an incredibly stupid man. I can only assume that he got where he is by forming his mouth into a big “O” and you can finish the sentence.
Please go and read up on the current status of Posse Comitatus.
Some forces may not deploy, but some can. There have been JSOC folks on assignment on American soil. The current law allows for wide latitude in case of homeland security.
Overly aggressive reporter? You mean a reporter that actually asks questions not a sean hannity interview where he sits tea bagging morons on his lap and feeds them the correct answers…just never anything too difficult for their pea sized brains to handle?
Is freedom of the press only for consevative idiots like beck and oreilly who can legally incite people to murder but not for journalists that actually practice journalism?
To make this short, [Edited by mod: Calling other commenters names is specifically disallowed on this or sister sites.]
Tinman is a parody troll.
Since the tax exempt US Chamber of Commerce can “money” local elections, for political purposes, non “TRADE RELATED ISSUES,” Americans should counter the “corporate bullsh*it,” with their un-welcomed opinions to headquarters of the corporate appeasers running for political offices! Level the playing field and call these hypocritical scumbags out on the carpet. Bullies, like brownshirts, never fight fair, until they get [Edited by Mod: please do not use this site to advocate violence as a resolution to problem solving.]
Tea partiers are parodies of human beings.
I think a group of aliens came down, skinned decent humans and are wearing their flesh to troll all of america.
We aren’t dealing with the invading aliens from V, we’re dealing with alien anonymouses from an alien /B/ on alien 4chan.
Exactly. Next we’ll be hanging nets out for our factory workers so when they try to commit suicide they’ll fail. This way we don’t lose productivity or trained empoyees.
Avoid reacting to the Tinman…. Do not waste your time. He is hollow, in need of an oil transfusion, to lubricate his stiff joints. Meanwhile he lacks a heart to move the oil, as well as a circulatory system to fuel his oil deprived brain. “If I only had a heart………….”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iak9HxW6dHY&feature=related
Not to mention those “tin ears”.
Must be plugged with rust!
Anyone who thinks posse comitatus is an effective restriction on the use of the military on US soil, check this out from Northern Command:
IMHO, posse comitatus is dead.
where’s oilfieldguy when you need him…
Probably preparing Oil Rigs for drilling, now that the moratorium has been lifted! LOL! Oilfield guy is a straight shooter, for sure!
Moderator I will not ignore you. I will react to you because your actions deserve reactions, unlike the Tinman’s compromised illogic, which deserves none Here it goes and you will most likely censor this also!
Hey moderator, so if the “name calling” is IYHIO, inappropriate you censor it! Even if the shoe fits? Why not let the readers make that determination. Censorship from the right, left or middle, is trash. It’s garbage. No better than Joe Miller. BTW, the East Germans where experts in censorship! “*icked in the nuts” is metaphorical terminology that any “jerk” can understand, except you I guess! I did not say…. “go kick him in the nuts” Beside, you where a little to late to your delete button. Where have you been? I propose solutions and resolutions all the time. Just one problem, they are real solutions, not bullshit.
The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals say “kick their asses, kick them in the nuts, etc,” while conservatives use code words like “second ammendment remedies.”
We’re honest about wanting to kick their asses, but they dress up their calls for murder with code words…we’re less violent and more honest than the TEAliban.
How desperate are the folks like the Tinman to snuff the foreign donations to the Chamber scandal? Their media minions at The Hill are trying to confuse the issue by pretending that political donations made by American citizens living and working overseas (such as, you know, American soldiers and sailors) are exactly the same as political donations made by foreign companies.)
Nate Silver is re-evaluating this Senate Race.
PW,
Here is a real solution to this mess. Revoke the tax exempt status of the US Chamber of Commerce, granted by the corrupt IRS. If they had to pay for all the costs that people and for profits corps had to pay, they might go out of business and lose. Good!
“East” Germany???? WTF, did I oversleep last night and miss something?
I’ve actually come to the conclusion that he’s a card. Trying to think of the most outrageous anti-prog things he/she can and posting it for the humor. I suppose that technically that makes him/her a troll, but I’m thinking it’s not a realistic view into teh heartless one’s true beliefs.
As always, YMMV.
What a concept! Lets make ex-soldiers, whose hearts and minds have been distorted by war, into law enforcement and security personnel. What could go wrong?
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: Fascism.
If the situation is allowed to stand, maybe the question we should be asking is: can we handcuff/detain politicians who refuse to answer tough questions?
One who is hiding behind an “overly aggressive First Amendment” no doubt. ;-)
But, worry not, I’m sure that politicians like Joe Miller will fix that “freedom of the press” stuff, and put those “overly aggressive reporters” somewhere that they will not be a threat to our developing fascist society anymore.
ET, Ed just had Scott McAdams on his show and Ed even utilized the East German ‘Stasi’ allusion…! Does Ed read FDL…? ;-)
Rather late to the game. Authoritarianism is already here in the U.S. FBI run amok, cops out of control, politicians on the take, and the courts doing little to nothing to reign this all in.
Tea-baggers are not very clear on the use of analogies, it seems.
East Germany wanted to keep it’s population IN…not others OUT. No one wanted to get INTO East Germany. East Germany did build a wall and manned it with machine guns. I’m sure that Mexico would be pleased to see unarmed families gunned down in a no-man’s land.
But it seems that Miller’s goons can’t even keep reporters out of public toilets Miller is using…so how does he expect to protect a thousand mile border.
From time to time, I suppose. I doubt I was the only one to make the comparison, though.
I like the way you think:)
I bet his writers do:)
Is Obama playing politics the U.S DA should be making arrests if the state D.A won’t isn’t kidnapping reporters a free speech issue?
If this is allowed to stand America loses in those freedom of the press rankings of countries.
To be accurate, some people did want to get INTO communist East Germany, but they were mostly dissidents on the run from other countries, Bader-Meinhof from West Germany, or third world students who went there to study.
But yes, East Germany was a brutal regime. The Stasi used citizens to spy on and tattle on other citizens, and emphatically, they didn’t want East German citizens to leave East Germany.
That said, the regime did ensure that most citizens had work, enough to eat and a place to live. You didn’t have much room to manuever, and you had to watch your back constantly. But some former East Germans miss the sense of financial security they once had.
Just to shed some light on the topic. I actually used to know a number of East Germans who escaped under a hail of bullets… and made it but weren’t sure what would happen to their familes. Not pleasant, for sure.
For Miller to use this analogy… well, it says a lot about exactly how facist the T-baggers have become. Again, I’m unclear if the average “bagger” really “gets” what is going on. They are being manipulated and used.
The Alaska Daily News took this video of Miller’s Drop Zone posse in action. It is really pretty funny, in a creepy kind of way.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/153751
And the GDR hired a substantial amount of two to six year “contract workers” from poor Comecon countries to counter their workforce deficit.
In 1989 93,568 of those long term workers lived temporarily in East Germany, approximately 59,000 of them came from Vietnam and 15,100 from Mozambique.
In addition to that there were roughly ten to thirty thousand short term (less than a year) workers (mostly from Poland and mostly working in agriculture and construction).
All in all roughly one percent of the GDR workforce were foreign workers.
The statement “No one wanted to get INTO East Germany.” is factually incorrect.
The East Germany remark is a gem. But as outrageous and worthy of protest Hopfinger’s treatment was, University of Florida student Andrew Meyer is well-aware that politicians on both sides of the aisle are “protected” against free speech. Remember?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE
Guys you are missing the other half of Scylla & Charybdis, over in New Hampshire, where I am filing a lawsuit tomorrow morning.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/77294
and
http://www.wepapers.com/Papers/122536/Kelly_Ayotte,_NH_GOP_sued_for_Free_Press_violations.
All of the latest law I could find on Westlaw is there, and some of it is actually from New Hampshire. The Nashua Telegraph interviewed the lead lawyer from Mortgage Specialists v. Implode-Explode Heavy Industries 160 N.H. 227, 999 A.2d 184, 38 Media L. Rep. 1641 (2010), and he said he could not see any reason the GOP could do this to me. Not only am I a blogger, but I have written for a large daily and a statewide weekly, and my blog sites have been up for five (5) friggin’ years.
Joe Miller and Kelly Ayotte: Two First Amendment-Hating GOP Peas in a Pod.
Agree. I forgot about the “guest workers,” so thanks for that reminder. In actuality, there were a number of people who wanted to get into communist East Germany for a variety of reasons.
That said, Miller’s suggestion is chilling because, no matter who wanted INTO or OUT of communist East Germany, it was, indeed, a very oppressive regime that was brutal, dictatorial, and many citizens were tortured and imprisoned on slight to non-existent charges (based on rumors and innuendos).
That Miller seems to venerate this regime is worthy noting, esp because I thought all ReTHUGS were into venerating Zombie Sainted Ronnie of the RayGunz, who claimed one of his “proudest achievements” was the pummeling of communist East Germany and “causing” the fall of the Berlin Wall. In the 1980s, Reagan was all about toppling the communist East European empire.
Yet in 2010, Tea-Partiers now wish to recreate dictatorial facistic communist regimes in the United States?? I say again: do these Tea Partiers actually listen to and “get” what these bought-off corporate whores are saying to them??? Or are they so mezmerized by RushGlennSarah that “reality” is not sinking in???