Anyone wondering what the Israelis will do next, after this week’s assassination of an Iranian scientist, to possibly provoke the Iranians into blindly swatting at an American naval vessel or American-flagged tanker, need look no further than Mark Perry’s post today at Foreign Policy:
Buried deep in the archives of America’s intelligence services are a series of memos, written during the last years of President George W. Bush’s administration, that describe how Israeli Mossad officers recruited operatives belonging to the terrorist group Jundallah by passing themselves off as American agents. According to two U.S. intelligence officials, the Israelis, flush with American dollars and toting U.S. passports, posed as CIA officers in recruiting Jundallah operatives — what is commonly referred to as a “false flag” operation.
The memos, as described by the sources, one of whom has read them and another who is intimately familiar with the case, investigated and debunked reports from 2007 and 2008 accusing the CIA, at the direction of the White House, of covertly supporting Jundallah — a Pakistan-based Sunni extremist organization. Jundallah, according to the U.S. government and published reports, is responsible for assassinating Iranian government officials and killing Iranian women and children. [emphases added]
According to Perry’s article, when told of this, President Bush was troubled, even downright pissed:
It’s easy to understand why Bush was so angry,” a former intelligence officer said. “After all, it’s hard to engage with a foreign government if they’re convinced you’re killing their people. Once you start doing that, they feel they can do the same.”
Not only was Bush pissed, so were some of our intelligence operatives and State Department employees:
Israel’s relationship with Jundallah continued to roil the Bush administration until the day it left office, this same intelligence officer noted. Israel’s activities jeopardized the administration’s fragile relationship with Pakistan, which was coming under intense pressure from Iran to crack down on Jundallah. It also undermined U.S. claims that it would never fight terror with terror, and invited attacks in kind on U.S. personnel…
What has become crystal clear, however, is the level of anger among senior intelligence officials about Israel’s actions. “This was stupid and dangerous,” the intelligence official who first told me about the operation said. “Israel is supposed to be working with us, not against us. If they want to shed blood, it would help a lot if it was their blood and not ours. You know, they’re supposed to be a strategic asset. Well, guess what? There are a lot of people now, important people, who just don’t think that’s true.”
One commenter at the web post of Perry’s article noted:
Given the murder of an Iranian scientist on his way to work, which stalled the EU-Iran talks that were just starting in Turkey, we should not be surprised that this report is leaking out now. It is an attempt to embarrass Israel, and show despite all its claims, it’s more of a headache to America than an asset.
But, what our American media will focus on is that Obama curtailed some cooperation in the early part of his administration. They will give little or no context to his actions, and use that as more evidence that Obama is hostile to Israel.
Indeed, Perry’s timing may have something to do with his State Department and anti-terrorism connections.
Others are questioning whether or not the Israelis are not only capable or mounting some sort or another false flag operation that implicates the U.S. in violence against Iranians, but purposefully pushing the Iranians to attack and kill Americans. The most recent Israeli assassination of an Iranian scientist this week prompted MSNBC‘s Chris Matthews to engage in a few mildly probing speculations:
Baer: It’s undoubtedly the Israelis, it couldn’t be anyone else. The Israelis as far as I can see are trying to provoke the Iranians into doing something.
Matthews: We are vulnerable over there. We have an American who has just been condemned to death for espionage.
Baer: What we’re seeing is an escalation, Chris, and it’s almost as if the intention is to get the Iranians to fire a missile at an oil tanker in the Strait of Hormuz, which would cause a wider war.
Matthews: Why would that help us?
Baer: It wouldn’t help us, it would help them… because the Israelis would force us into hitting the Iranians, hit them back, and that’s exactly what they want.
Matthews (with virginal voice): Oh so it’s the Israelis forcing us into this….
Engel: Incredibly hard sanctions on Iran [have the country] backed into a corner. If you want to hit Iran and you need a pretext to do that…the way to do that is by forcing your adversary into making some kind of aggressive move and everyone will think you’re correct when you respond by force….
Matthews: This is moving toward creating a pretext for an eventual attack on nuclear facilities?
Matthews continues later:
Matthews: How can the U.S. not see this as adversarial by Israel to try and hook us into a war? If that’s seen to manipulate that into a war we don’t want to get into, how can we not see that as from an ally, hostile? … Bob, you’re saying that Israel is trying to provoke the Iranians into attacking.
I contend that not only may the Israelis be trying to provoke the Iranians into attacking us, they may be doing it in such a way as to get the Iranian population believe that an Israeli-connected attack was actually one done by the U.S. I also contend that Israeli decision makers are nuts enough to – if the above fails to work – actually attack our forces in the Persian Gulf with their own missiles, perhaps taken ashore off of a submarine, to make us think the Iranians have attacked us. Or – combine the two operations to happen within minutes of each other.
Israel is not our friend. They are, instead, the most insidious enemy the United States has had in a long time. I write this reluctantly, but feel it has to be said.



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Aloha, ET… I touched on the subject in my latest post, but, Emptywheel was all over that Perry article too…! ;-)
Thanks. Here’s a link to Marcy’s article:
Foreign Policy’s False Flag
Are ya on skype, ET…?
Damn ET. Straight no chaser. Recommended. I like the “virginal voice.” Hehe.
Matthews: We are vulnerable over there. We have an American who has just been condemned to death for espionage.
I think the guy is a spy I might be a Lefty but even I would not feel safe in Iran given the tension between Iran and America.
“Israel is not our friend. They are, instead, the most insidious enemy the United States has had in a long time.”
Absolutely true.
I contend that not only may the Israelis be trying to provoke the Iranians into attacking us, they may be doing it in such a way as to get the Iranian population believe that an Israeli-connected attack was actually one done by the U.S
Agreed
Recommended and should definitely be fount page.
Thanks. Perhaps it is best that this diary not be front-paged. I’m a long-time critic of one Israeli government after another. In spite of having many Israeli friends, the strong opinion I’ve now formed about that country’s present course will probably make more than a few enemies and strong critics.
Sources such as the ABC News, Daily Telegraph, and journalist Seymour Hersh have reported that Jundullah has received support from the United States against the government of Iran.
But it is obvious that Israel killed the Iranian scientist, isn’t it, because they are close to Jundullah because those Iranian Sunni Moslems are too stupid to tell the difference between the CIA folks and Pakistani’s working for Mossad.
Indeed the writer, named Mark Perry, once head of the Beirut-based Conflicts Forum, advisor to the PLO, and frequent appearances as an expert on Al-Jazeera, writes in a website http://www.foreignpolicy.com – which is not the prestigious journal Foreign Affairs but he has written many books and gotten good reviews – that a “senior military officer told Foreign Policy by email” that Pakistanis’ working with Jundullah were really Mossad.
Jundullah equates to a fighting arm (this one began in 2003) of the Sunni Muslims in Iran who have been fighting the Shia gov for as long as I can remember – it has about 700 to 2000 fighters but lost its leader and founder Abdolmalek Rigi who was executed in Iran in 2010.It’s said to be responsible for killing 154 and injuring 320 Iranian citizens since 2003, while Jundullah commanders claim the group has killed up to 400 Iranian soldiers. While both Iran and the US say they are a terrorist organization, Iran has long alleged that the U.S. government is supporting Jundallah.
Now Perry however biased, is rather credible, and basic logic says it is possible that Bibi, who is evil, is also nuts and is trying to get an Iranian response so he can justify bombing Iran. I doubt Bibi worries about making any bombing look like the US did it.
But this is a heavy load to lift with only one email saying I saw a memo from a retired military officer.
Papau, once again you fail to grasp the bigger picture…! 8-(
Truth, Mr. Teller . . . bless ya.
N you too, CT.
Funny, it all seems so easy to spot anymore, or discount . . .
*G*
What CT is directing Papau toward is emptywheel’s diary on this. I might add that emptywheel added this comment to her post:
As complicated as some of this may be, the bottom line is that the nutjobs in Tel Aviv could care less about how their insane fear of Iran will play out in the global economy, your paycheck, your job’s future, or the environmental degradation of the lands around the Persian Gulf or the Gulf itself.
Provoking war on the level this conflict would naturally engender is ecocide to the degree of being a major crime against humanity.
Thank you, ET.
On Jan 3, Empty Wheel wrote about three captured Iranians that chased 2 possible Jundallah members back across the border and killed one of them.
It was more than one email, he talked to CIA who were unwilling to go on the record.
He said the Mossad was posing as the CIA to make contact with Jundallah, not posing as Jundallah itself. Only Kurds (and most saudi royals) are very friendly with the Israelis.
ET, if our fearless leaders really felt like they were our enemy they would direct the CIA to start eliminating those that are part of the deep state that would post the most danger, and work their way down.
Noam Chomsky said something interesting when discussing “The Israeli lobby”. He said that Walt and Mearsheimer were foreign policy “realists”: they believe that foreign policy is run for the country, they have a patriotic view. Chomsky said that he thinks that is not correct, that policy are run for the benefit of the elites in this country. Looking at it in that regard, Men like Haim Saban, and Sheldon Adelson are getting what they pay for. There is no conflict of interest.
Hell, that may have been why the USS Liberty was massively attacked by Israeli air and sea forces. The only reason we know about it today was because they didn’t manage to kill everyone on board:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/uss-liberty-dead-in-the-water/
Sheldon Adelson bought himself Bibi Netanyahu, of course he thinks he can buy other things as well. Ask Newt Gingrich.
Money talks. More to the point, speech is free unless you want to be heard.
Walt, Mearsheimer, and others who’ve been speaking out have made enormous headway in opening up discussion of the Israel issue. E.g., five years ago, any FDL comment that contained the word “AIPAC” was automatically held for moderation.
The Israelis even managed to piss off their best friends in the American security establishment. Not bad.
(The Israelis are as crazy as any other party in the ME.)
Sy Hersh’s stuff had a lot of problems. It conflated material about a Pakistani group called Jundallah with an Iranian group called Jundallah, for starters. From there it’s very hard to tell what’s real and what isn’t, because it’s hard to say what evidence applied to what group.
The story that has made most sense to me about the Liberty is that Israel didn’t want the U.S. to know that they were taking over Sinai until it was too late. And, yes, Israel did plan on sinking the ship. Can’t remember where I picked up both of those pieces of info, but was prolly a Scott Horton interview a couple of years ago. Scott does a piece on that every so often.
It’s fairly obvious that we are not in charge of our own policy in the ME – Israel is and they are putting our country and our people at risk. I think we are not required to sacrifice our safety to protect an overbearing, belligerent country like Israel.
true – but as someone remarked – there is the bigger picture :-)
An email to a gossip site rarely provides evidence of the quality needed to sustain what is suggested. Indeed the idea that such a memo is declassified and in the “archives” is a bit of a laugh. Any with even peripheral association with the NSA/CIA – and mine is barely peripheral – knows what would happen next.
But it is a nice planted story – and indeed allows discussion – emptywheel nailed the analysis.
What has not been noted has been the half dozen attempts to kill Saudi officials by Iran – and the possibility the Saudi’s are sending the Iranians a signal.
We use the Israelis – as a military outpost and projection of power, and indeed a projection of democracy. In the 50′s and 60′s the US via the Dulles brothers put Israel “at risk” because it was all about oil.
I really don’t see anyone destroying us over Israel (9/11 was over getting US military out of Saudi Arabia – not about Israel until a few years later when Osama needed better PR).
My point is that the group that is called Jundallah that is radically Sunni is Pakistani, and does bombings in Pakistan. It was formed by Pakistani students, and twice tried to assassinate Pervez Musharraf during the 2000′s. It’s a very religiously oriented group. By contrast, a Baloch group that is basically separatist in Eastern Iran is quite a different group, even if it’s fighting the Iranian government. The Baloch aren’t usually radically Sunni at all, they’re predominantly Sufi. On the Pak side of the border all their fights are secular and on both sides of the border they are about autonomy. They’re the Kurds of the region, so to speak.
They might be induced to do all sorts of things against the government, but you can see how mixing all these threads together makes for a very screwed up script. Once you pull in purely Pakistani and religious stuff, you also have to contend with other threads, e.g. possibilities that there are regional scripts going on: why aren’t the ISI and RAW part of the story now? And if you find a battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia plausible, why not one between Iran and Uzbeki rebels (who nearly went to huge war in 2000) or between Iran and Afghanistan or Iran and either Pakistan or India over something or the other?
The reason you don’t is because your world is centered on Israel and greater Arabia because of our collective news feeds.
So a little less gee I’m all over this with intelligent insight might be a good idea right now by everyone. As I pointed out somewhere earlier, we are still living with the consequences of an accusation from the 1990s against Hezbollah about Argentina that the court there said wasn’t backed up by the facts. And that accusation has caused pain and sorrow in the thousands of lives by this point.
sufism isn’t some necessarily pacifist sect or breakaway from Islam or even sunni islam.
It’s a mystical/spiritual dimension of islam, but can encompass other religions. http://naqshbandi.org/about/aexplain.htm
The Sufi and the Jihadi: The Dangerous Good Muslim/Bad Muslim Trope
Was that your opening?
May the gods bless George Bush. He believed the hype and forced elections in palestine, and tried to force them in Egypt but Mubarak started killing viable opponents.
Israel is an outpost for projecting power. First we corrupt with bribes, give weapons to subdue their oppressed people. 2nd option is pushing democracy to weaken and replace governments that aren’t willing to open their country up to neoliberal capitalist “opportunities”.