Imagine if David Duke were U.S. Attorney General, or the head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Imagine if ICE head Duke proclaimed loudly, at a rally produced by Sheriff Joe Arpaio:
“Mexicans, Asians and Negroes that arrive here do not even believe that this country belongs to us, to the white man!“
Fortunately, neither Duke nor somebody of his ilk is very high up in our government. In Israel, they aren’t so fortunate. Here’s that country’s real Minister of Internal Affairs, Eli Yishai, this morning:
“Muslims that arrive here do not even believe that this country belongs to us, to the white man.”
That is Yishai’s latest response to the increasingly racist events unfolding in Israel having to do with that country’s disturbingly violent reaction to an influx of migrants from sub-Saharan Africa.
I’m not quite sure what Yishai’s definition of “white man” is. His parents emigrated to Israel from Tunisia. His party affiliation has been with Shas since soon after the party’s inception in 1984. Under the current government, this is the third time Yishai has held the cabinet post of Interior head, the previous terms being from 2001 to 2003.
It is a post unlike any in the United States:
The position is often demanded by avowedly religious or secular parties as it allows them to control religious councils and planning (including the building of settlements), as well as religion and state issues such as civil marriage and immigration (which is affected by the Who is a Jew? debate). In recent years it has been held by Shas, an ultra-orthodox party, as well as Shinui and Yisrael BaAliyah, both secularist.
Who is Yishai pandering to with his white supremacist statement that he surely must have known would be picked up by the Israeli press, possibly outside of the country too? His quote came out early Sunday in a Haaretz article about a new law that came into effect today, regarding detention of migrants:
A law granting Israeli authorities the power to detain illegal migrants for up to three years came into effect on Sunday, in the wake of widening public controversy over the influx of African migrants who cross into Israel along its border with Egypt.
The law makes illegal migrants and asylum seekers liable to jail, without trial or deportation, if caught staying in Israel for long periods. In addition, anyone helping migrants or providing them with shelter could face prison sentences of between five and 15 years.
The law amended the Prevention of Infiltration Law of 1954, passed to prevent the entry of Palestinians as part of emergency legislation. The law is expanded to address migrant workers or asylum seekers who enter Israel without posing a threat to Israel’s security.
According to the law, migrant workers already here could be jailed for the most minor offense such as spraying graffiti or stealing a bicycle – infractions for which they would not have been detained before.
So far, all migrants who have been caught by the Israel Defense Forces on the Israel-Egypt border have been transferred to the Saharonim detention facility which holds 2,000 spaces.
I wrote here about the current push in Israel for race-based concentration camps back on May 24th. In that diary, I speculated that Yishai is one of the Israeli politicians playing a role in purposefully fueling the rising violence against people there perceived to be non-white. Since the time of the Tel Aviv riots last month, Ethiopian Jews, who I doubt Yishai considers “white,” have taken to wearing t-shirts proclaiming their Jewishness. They’re afraid they will get assaulted by people inflamed by Yishai and his colleagues’ incendiary diatribes.
This new law, and statements of the sort uttered this morning by Minister Yishai clearly reinforce what I wrote back on the 24th:
More than the rantings pushing for a war against Iran, more than the struggle for Palestinian rights, more than the billions upon billions we give away to Israel every year, the almost daily mushrooming of racial hatred by Israelis may be what finally disgusts us out of our stupor.
Back on May 9th, Philip Giraldi, in an essay about a “tipping point” having arrived in Israel in respect to the U.S. population’s generic blind support of Israeli policies in all areas, wrote:
So we have reached the point where the proverbial cat is out of the bag. Everyone, with the possible exception of the U.S. Congress, has become aware that there is something terribly wrong with Israel. In Israel itself, where there is often ferocious debate over the country’s policies, it is time for a reckoning. Does Israel want to become a normal state with correct relationships with its neighbors, including an independent Palestine, or does it want to continue down the road that it is pursuing, which is folly and will lead to ruin? The choice is ultimately Israel’s, but, for the first time, Americans are actually beginning to talk and write freely and openly about the problem.
Giraldi only tangentially addressed the rapid rise of racism in policy, procedure and actions. To him the tipping point was more about a succession of brilliant books on how Americans react to Israeli policy, by Jimmy Carter, Stephen Walt & John Mearsheimer, and Peter Beinert.
These are indeed important. However, those of us attempting to get the message across that Israel has fully become the new apartheid South Africa can rest assured that the white supremacist images, quotes and policies coming out of Israel almost daily will explain our message quite fully on their own.




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anyone interviewed Ileana Ros-Lehtinen about Yishai’s statements? Or any NY politicians? Or those second coming xtian’s?
I wish I could believe Israel will come to it’s senses but I can’t.
Good idea. As well, people need to find ways to read Minister Yishai’s statement to Reps. Donna Edwards, Karen Bass, Sanford Bishop, Elijah Cummings, Keith Ellison, Al Green, and every other member of the Congressional Black Caucus. While Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen might understandably feel defensive about her people, Minister Yishai’s statement is a slap in the face of non-white people in the USA.
It would take Sheldon Adelson’s cessation of aid to Netanyahu and Likud for this to happen. Adelson’s the prime sugar daddy for the Israeli right wing, apparently primarily out of guilt for not being a very observant Jew (his $20-plus-billion fortune is built on casinos).
Much of that fortune is in casinos in China and Macau, where I suspect a lot more than gambling goes on at the premises he owns or operates.
““Muslims that arrive here do not even believe that this country belongs to us, to the white man.””
How much cash could Obama raise if he gave that man a Medal of Freedom:
-Shimon Peres
-Shimon Peres
http://www.quotesstar.com/themes/politics/shimon-peres-quotes.html
Music icon Bob Dylan, wearing sunglasses, and Madeleine Albright, the first woman to serve as U.S. secretary of state, were among 13 people honored today as President Barack Obama awarded the Medal of Freedom.
At the National Press Club in Washington on November 13, 2007, Albright declared that she with William Cohen would co-chair a new “Genocide Prevention Task Force“[80] created by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, the American Academy of Diplomacy, and the United States Institute for Peace. Their appointment was criticized by Harut Sassounian[81] and the Armenian National Committee of America.[82]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright
–60 Minutes (5/12/96)
No surprise Bob Dylan is visiting the ‘neighborhood bully’
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/04/no-surprise-dylan-is-visiting-the-neighborhood-bully.html
And speaking of Albright, Cohen, freedom, and cash:
The Day AIPAC Went On The Record About How It Operates
http://mjayrosenberg.com/2012/05/16/aipacs-congress/
Albright ended up as Sec State, and Cohen Sec Defense. I guess Clinton felt that the price was worth it too.
Mahalo, ET…! Ma’an further reported…
…The Saharonim detention center in southern Israel is usually the first port of call for migrants caught entering Israel from Egypt. The detention center is currently being expanded from a 2,000 person capacity to 5,400.
Israeli rights group Hotline for Migrant Workers slammed the new law, saying the state of Israel saw the “imprisonment of thousands of people, women and children” as a solution instead of granting refugee status to those who are eligible.
The new law is neither “humane nor effective,” the group said.
Immigration to Israel is a controversial issue in a country which seeks to maintain a Jewish majority.
Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yishai said Thursday that “more prisons and migrant detention camps” were the solution to the problem, Maariv reported.
Israel must “prepare more military bases where we can jail all of them without exception,” he added, saying that together with Palestinians, migrants threaten the Zionist dream…
What a nightmare…! 8-(
Ironically, the solution to the Arab-Israeli-African problem is even more immigration. When the youngsters get together and hold hand across racial and tribal boundaries, they will create a blended humanity which is neither Jewish nor Arab nor African and they will live together in peace.
Horrifying, as always. Thanks for the report.
Did you just call for the Jewish state to be wiped off the map?
LOL
Funny how Israel is always wrong despite being attacked for 65 years.
Funny how stealing land for the last 65 years means Israel is always right.
I am so glad this has been front paged for all to see.
Gentile supremacy is such an easy game to play.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Even Jews should be appalled at what that man said. Just a plain old bigot.
Uh yeah or ‘Palestinians’ could have accepted the offer of a separate State twice offered them or the citizenship they were offered but refused. Funny how there”s no derogatory name for that. Arabs hold 99% of the land mass in the ME but it’s still not enough.
Yeah fine be appalled by what one man says. Don’t make it front page news fodder for the drooling Israel hating masses.
Bigotry and racism should never be hidden. It needs light and exposure to stop it.
ET, interestingly, see this prior invocation of David Duke in connection with another Netanyahu appointee.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts. Theft is theft. You can’t hide behind name calling.
Try defending the theft of someone else’s land for the last 65 years by Israel.
Tap…tap…tap.
We’re waiting.
How about the standard argument that Israel needs to acquire more land for its own security? That argument has been made over and over again.
I can hear a bank robber’s argument now: “I needed more money for my own security.” I can’t imagine that argument winning the day in court just like stealing someone else’s land for the last 65 years won’t fly in the court of public opinion.
Again, theft is theft.
Defend it…if you can.
Israel is surrounded by charming folks who would love to see it wiped off the map and have been trying to do so since 1948.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
A UN Mandate isn’t theft. Israel’s borders have barely budged. I’m sorry but you are clearly espousing irrational hatred of Israel and refuse to put anything in context.
Let’s try this another way. Would you think it was okay if David Duke said the same thing about America? If this racist in Israel had said that “this land belongs to Israelis” I at least could understand but he didn’t.
So your argument is that since the Arabs hold 99% of the land mass in the ME, that is justification for Israel stealing someone else’s land for the last 65 years?
Hmmm…the 1% of the wealthiest folks in the US hold 60% of the US wealth so that is justification for the 99% of rest of us to steal from a bank?
Again, theft is theft.
Try again to defend it…if you can.
“Gentile supremacy is such an easy game to play.”
You realize Gentile is a Jewish supremacist slur, right?
You couldn’t have said n#gger supremacy with any more unintended irony.
Israel was created by a UN Mandate. The land belonged to Britain, which decided to create Israel out of a small portion of Palestine. The Arabs Leagues were additionally offered more land as a separate State pre-’48 but refused. So was Arafat, who also refused. Sorry, doesn’t qualify as theft.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Yes, let’s put things “in context”.
Ask those who’ve had their land stolen for the last 65 years if all that needs to be done is just put things “in context” and a theft is no longer a theft.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
“Israel is surrounded by charming folks who would love to see it wiped off the map and have been trying to do so since 1948.”
Jeez, you’d figure the Stern Gang, Irgun, and Haganah would have been greeted as liberators.
Liberated from their land, houses, and communities.
What’s the Yiddish word for “sucker” again?
I’m just floored by the complete lack of desire to ever put anything in context when it comes to Israel. 10,000 Hamas rockets land on Israeli soil, crickets chirp. One guy says something inflammatory, front page. It’s rather pathetic.
Hmm. The Yiddish word for sucker, not sure. But in 2012 I would imagine it should apply to pie-eyed Liberals and closet Antisemites who have adopted ‘Zionism’ as their new hatespeach word of choice.
You did not answer my question about David Duke. I guess I can draw my own conclusions.
Uhmmm…no, the land did not belong to Britain. Look at the real estate deeds and titles that go back hundreds of years and you will find out who owned the land.
And don’t bother trying the UN Mandate argument either. They didn’t own the title to the land either. Just because the UN did something stupid, and they’ve done so many times in the past, that doesn’t justify theft of someone else’s land.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Not sure how many times I can explain that a UN Mandate isn’t theft and that Palestine belonged to the Brits. I think 3 or 4 is enough. Have fun with that agenda.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Whoa!
Got front-paged here while I was wasting my time at my place blogging about that great bright shiny object of the North Country.
Yeah, I’m really not too into logical fallacies sorry.
[satire]
I firmly believe God gave me Japan. I may have red hair and blue eyes, but anybody who challenges my birthright to Japan is an anti-Asian or a self-hating Japanese.
Anti-Asian doesn’t mean all Asians, or even all Japanese. Mostly it just means red haired, blue eyed Asians mostly found in North America.
Those dirty Asians (yes, all of them) have always denied our blue-eyed birth right to Japan, because of their eternal, metaphysical anti-Asianism.
Asians own 99% of Asia, I don’t know why the Japanese don’t just move to China and give me all of Japan.
It’s my spiritual homeland, my birthright. Just like that nice watch you’re wearing.
Randall – you are master in self parody.
Israel was created as a refuge for Holocaust survivors. If your agenda is hatred of Jews, then by all means try to blame ‘evil Zionism.’ As for the ownership of ME land mass, 99% pertains to the fact that Arabs haven’t lifted a finger to help ‘Palestinians’ despite holding nearly the entire region. It’s more convenient to use the situation to blame Israel. Israel even tried to give a chunk to Egypt but of course they declined.
Jim:
You might get a bonus if you can answer these:
1) What did Minister Yishai mean by stating that Israel is meant for “white” people?
2) Would you define Ethiopian Jews as “white” people?
3) Would you define Palestinian Christians as “white” people?
4) If you had to ask Rep. Ellison about how he understands Minister Yishai’s statement, how would you pose the question to him?
“Israel was created as a refuge for Holocaust survivors.”
This is what hatred of Jews looks like:
Herzl stated in his diary:
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews.. . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/herzl/index.cfm
I frankly don’t care about any of the above, as Israel is surrounded by those who see Jews as somewhat less than Human. Israel offered the original ‘Palestinians’ citizenship, they refused. A separate State, they refused. A second offer of a State, they refused. 60+ years of relentless attacks aimed at wiping Israel out. In that context, I could frankly care less if one or several persons within Israel’s Government spout off about race. If Israel had stuffed roses up the ass of every single Palestinian since ’48 they would still want Israel gone.
Yeah ok bla bla bla predictable quotes by this one or that one. Israel was founded as the only Democracy in the region, they offered Palestinians citizenship, they didnt want it, their own State, they didnt want it it wasnt enough. They got Jordan, and all the rest but it’s not enough and never will be.
ET:
Jim:
Thank you. You don’t get the bonus.
You’re welcome. And next time you feel like painting Israel as as demonic because you’re not interested in any sort of historical context, perhaps you’ll think twice. Shalom.
“Shalom.”
Is that what the Irgun said when they
blew up the King David Hotel?gave birth to Israel?Nice post ET.
Very disturbing how Israeli bigotry is becoming so widely accepted in its public square. Like a deterioration into a Serbian nationalist, Hutu extremist mindset: where all non-Jews are now considered threats to its Jewish majority, and thus its very ‘existence’.
I predict scary days ahead for innocent Israeli minorities and Palestinians.
Rec’d!
Your failure to recognize that Israel is changing rapidly saddens me, but does not surprise.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Because the Zionist movement had nothing to do with the Brits trying to back out of the creation of Israel. The thought of Holocaust II should have been seen as a big party….
Dayam, ET, I think ya sparked a full-scale GIYUS red alert…!
Lol yeah maybe Israel should just adopt Hamas’ charter. The Libs would love that, or at least be confused as to who to hate.
Here’s some more bla bla bla predictable quotes that don’t matter and don’t prove that Jews ever acted with indifference to the suffering of other Jews, while playing God with the holy land:
Chaim Weizmann, the first president of Israel, made this Zionist policy very explicit:
The hopes of Europe’s six million Jews are centered on emigration. I was asked: “Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?â€� I replied, “No.â€� … From the depths of the tragedy I want to save … young people [for Palestine]. The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world … Only the branch of the young shall survive. They have to accept it.
Chaim Weizmann reporting to the Zionist Congress in 1937 on his testimony before the Peel Commission in London, July 1937. Cited in Yahya, p. 55.
“One Cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland”
….Izaak Greenbaum, in dismissing the World’s efforts to save Jews from the Nazis.
Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: “If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative.” Ibid., p.149
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/holocaust/index.cfm
Bla, bla, bla. A Jew would never act against other Jews.
Those descendants of people killed in the King David must feel better now:
You keep hiding behind the myth of my purported hatred of Jews. That’s a sorry attempt to deflect from the real discussion.
Let’s put some more facts on the table here:
1) Antisemitism is real! It exists all over the world and has for centuries. Just because someone points out that theft is theft doesn’t make them antisemitic.
2) The Holocaust was an horrendous tragedy for Jews. I agree completely! The fact that the Jewish people suffered unimaginably in the Holocaust is no justification for “giving” them someone else’s land.
3) The UN had no more authority to give away someone else’s land that I do. The fact that they did so does not make it right. In doing so, the UN is partly responsible for the tragedy that is being endured by both Palestinians and Israelis.
I don’t know how to right the situation. But that doesn’t mean that I or anyone else should accept the untenable situation for both Israelis and Palestinians.
I harbor no ill will toward the people of Israel. They, like almost everybody else in the world, are likely nice folks as individuals. I also harbor no ill will toward the people of Palestinian descent. Some of them have committed terrible acts against people living in Israel. Some Israels have committed terrible acts against people of Palestinian descent.
Basically what I’m saying is that a tragic mistake was made 65 years ago and both the Israelis and Palestinians are still paying for it.
That tragic mistake involved giving away someone else’s land to the people who created the state of Israel. The fact that most Israelis are probably nice people doesn’t change the underlying fact that the owners of the land that forms Israel have had their land taken away from them.
You can go on and on being defensive and making silly accusations of antisemitism, ignorance, and just downright hatred of Jews, but none of those taunts will relieve you of the truth of the matter.
I can sympathize with the defensiveness, and even the irrational name-calling, but it doesn’t change reality.
“Lol yeah maybe Israel should just adopt Hamas’ charter.”
Well, they did create Hamas. That Hamas charter has been preeetty useful to Hasbara HQ over the years.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
No, that’s a logical fallacy. What I’m saying is, Israel is being demonized. There is no context here. It doesn’t really matter what Israel does, it’s not wanted.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Lol. Hasbara U doesn’t use letter grades for this test. You get a score of 0-7, 7 getting you a promotion to Huffington Post.
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf
Difficult days for the Hasbarists. :)
Unreal. Blame Israel at all costs.
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What does Israel want? If they want only Jews then they can hardly be part of the international community. It suits me just fine if they want to go it alone because then I won’t have to have my money go to arm them and pay for their universal health care which we don’t have. They need to say exactly what they want.
Awesome…! What kinda readings are ya registering…? That Bluefin Tuna report has many here in the Isles, worried about our prized ‘Ahi’ or Yellowfin Tuna…!
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
*snort*
“Unreal. Blame Israel at all costs.”
Speaking of costs, congrats to FDL for front paging this diary.
Hell hath no fury like a supremacist exposed.
I’m not going to Juneau as part of that. I’m going to be shepherded through this by my dear friend Diane Benson, who is Tlingit. More soon.
I’m trying to help set up an Alaska node to the mushrooming worldwide citizens’ radiation monitoring network. Hopefully, it will be robust, too strong to be taken down by governments when they feel they have to, and accurate.
LOL! Good analogy.
I think Jim needs to read Beinert.
I’d still disagree with him, but at least he’d come off as being an honest and conscientious advocate of Israel, despite still clinging to an underlying ideology steeped in bigotry and shortsightedness.
Palestinians were offered citizenship, they didn’t want it. They left en masse in ’48 thinking the Arab Armies would wipe out the Jews and hand them the land. Now they’re somehow ‘refugees.’ In my opinion, Israel has been attacked so many times that it’s a miracle they give their citizens as many rights as they do, more than in any surrounding State. Arab States could care less about giving a speck of land to Gazans or ‘Palestinians.’ Since that’ll never happen, let’s just write articles blaming Israel.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
I don’t doubt your wish will be coming true soon enough for you.
I think that what Israel is doing is bad for their country. I don’t hate Israel or Jews. I had great hope for them and wished them well. But some of their leaders are beginning to sound as if they are losing their minds. Fanatics can destroy almost anything, including countries.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Ok well my take on it is that Israel is surrounded by fanatics and their Right Wing government is a direct result of that. I don’t see anyone other than the US giving much of a crap about Israel.
Nobody here is purporting that nations in the region Israel exists within are little or big Gardens of Eden. The premise of my article, which you have given an F- to and categorized as “garbage” is that Israel is rapidly becoming more racist. Rather than dispute that, you have written above that this does not matter.
They also have enough nukes to wipe out most of the ME and are armed to the teeth in every other way. Who is going to actually attack them when anyone would know that the US would rush to assist?
Are you capable of admitting that Israel’s “birth” was done in a way that was bound to create problems with the natives on the new continent?
Are you capable of picturing yourself as a Palestinian native in 1948?
Ehud Barak was capable:
אם הייתי פלסטיני בגיל המתאים, הייתי נכנס בשלב מסוים לאחד מארגוני הטרור
Translation: If I were a Palestinian at the right age, I would have joined one of the terrorist organizations at a certain stage.
Interview by Gideon Levi, March 1998
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ehud_Barak
In the late ’80′s, I was going out with a Japanese woman. I mentioned in the course of a conversation once that I was white. She said, “You’re not white, you’re Jewish.” I loved that answer; maybe someone should tell this guy.
Who is going to attack Israel? Iron Dome doesn’t slice vegetables.
Why on Earth, are you good people, engaging with the long-suffering Troll…? 8-(
Yes we know Israel should have been founded with the blessing of the omnipotent marshmallow god in the sky and everyone handed a lifetime supply of felafel.
I’m sure 450+ nukes(available in three different sizes, even) is sufficient enough to wipe out Mankind…! 8-(
I got a letter awhile back from an Israeli woman who had been posting at blogs in a male persona. She was paid fairly well (time off from duty, 3-day passes) to do what Jim does. She thanked me for helping her see that what she had been doing was dishonest. She explained that she was “following orders.” The Mavi Marmara incident two years ago was her turning point.
She is out of the army now and considering becoming an activist for human rights in her country, but is hesitant. When I asked her if she might write about her conversion, she blanched, as she feels she has to be careful.
*heh* Another words; there really is ‘Hope in Dope’…?
God Bless…! ;-)
It’s my land because some of my distant ancestors wrote it on goatskin several thousand years ago. If that isn’t insanity…what is?
They should have brought gifts, gestures of respect, and permission to assimilate into their society.
And the Zionist elders shouldn’t have pressured Western governments to reject Jewish refugees.
Did you picture yourself as a Palestinian yet?
Would you do as Barak and join up with the tewwowists? Or would you answer telephones on the sabbath?
I do have hope, CT. Evolution is a slow process. Unless Fukushima #4 blows. Then it will quicken.
*heh* So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?
Saved their Okoles, that’s what…! ;-)
It’s funny how Islam saved them Jews from the Christians, even…! ;-)
My highest concern is Fukushima meltdown. The West Coast may be far less habitable and the soils of the California bread basket destroyed. Are you planning an up date? Hard to get good data on this.
This diary really, really needs an ironclad citeable source for that quote. All I’m getting on teh google is pretty non-mainstream. Even AJE would be great.
Now, ironically, as a member of the Fourth Faith of Israel, and Iran has the biggest axe to grind against my Faith, I’m not calling for any intervention against the Iranians, and, merely ask the Israelis to respect All faiths associated with the Holy Land…! A journey to Mt. Carmel and our Universal House of Justice, is akin to the Hajj in Mecca…!
I’m doing a lot of stuff right now in many areas, one of which is trying to hook into the new worldwide monitoring web. Yes – updates when I know enough to give a decent report.
OK Haaretz, allah bless them, carried the quote:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israel-enacts-law-allowing-authorities-to-detain-illegal-migrants-for-up-to-3-years-1.434127
What quote, Kurt?
Lie, Palestine belonged to the Palestinians. It still does. The fact that large parts of their patrimony has been violently stolen from them does not negate that fact.
mfi
Hot damn, long time no see, mfi…! How’s the grandkids…? My little Munchkin ain’t so little these daze…! ;-)
I’m featuring some Irish Lads and Lassies at lln, in about 20 mikes…! ;-)
The money quote in the title.
Complete lie. Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire. Ottomans lost it in WW1, period. Palestine was basically inhabited sparsely by Bedouin Arabs. Arabs were given most of Palestine in the form of Jordan etc. Why is it never enough? Why did the Arab Leagues turn down a separate State pre-’48? Do you know how tiny Israel is? Yet it’s still too much. I’ll never understand the psychotic hatred of Israel by so-called Liberals.
You seem obtuse. I don’t understand your point.
Oh PLEASE. None of the Arab States helped the Palestinian refugees AT ALL after they willingly left Israel thinking they’d get the dead Jews’ land upon return. NO ONE forced Palestinians to decline citizenship in the very beginning, No one. They did it entirely on their own.
Eli Yishai could have said A Jewish State but that would have offended the ruling class in America. What could possible go wrong with just offend over Two Third of the world population. We have allowed this Apartheid state of Israel to do just about everything with our Dollars and our Crazy Sense of Justice.If these Concentration Camps they are building does not work out,I sure the Republican in Congress will pass President Obama Jobs Bill with a clause in it to build Human Ovens to put the steel industries back to work. After all Obama had no choice in the matter at hand. I sure Willard and Obama will run adds arguing with quotes on who idea it was.
Hmmmm. There’s only one quote in the title, right?
“Israeli Interior Minister: “This Country Belongs to Us – The White Man!”
That one.
Yeah. So what do you think of the Interior Ministers quote? :^D
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
He said those words, did he not? I linked to them at the top of the article below the headline. He said more than what I put into the headline, but it is a headline.
Do you think the way I wrote the headline changes what it is he actually said in a meaningful way? If you raise a valid point, I might change it, Kurt.
Did you picture yourself as a Palestinian yet?
Would you be kinda pissed at that Lord Balfour guy for giving your land away to that Baron Rothschild guy?
That’d be kinda like Egypt giving Singapore away to some guy named Rothschild.
Singapore might say to Rothschild, “dude, who the fuck are you to tell me that Egypt had the right to give you our land in the first place?”
Yes. I see myself as someone who was given roughly 70% of Palestine, declined 2 offers of a separate State, and declined citizenship. I deserted Israel when I thought the Arab Armies would wipe out the Jews and have portrayed myself as a victim ever since. I fire my rockets at the ‘evil’ Israelis who refuse to give up the tiny sliver of sand which occupies about 1% of the ME, if that, despite the fact that I was given Jordan. Love the Rothschild reference. Common ‘Zionists!’ ‘Rothschilds!”Apartheid’ drivel which can be found on any common Neo Nazi website. The only thing missing is the ‘Khazaar’ spiel.
Ha. Citizens of Israel have more rights than in any surrounding State, some of which hang gays and stone women to death for adultery.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
Jim,
This post is about growing racism in Israel and what that might mean. You haven’t yet participated in the discussion. Why not?
What’s there to discuss? Israel will always be demonized, period. If I were in charge I’d expel everyone who doesn’t like the historically massive amounts of freedom and rights they’ve been given compared to the rest of the region, force Arab States to give them some land, and be done with it.
Please avoid personal attacks on MyFDL. -MyFDL Editor
You are a treasure.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck……..
Settler colonies–all underpinned by white supremacist ideology. The Kaiser, who was sympathetic to Zionism, saw Israel as a chance to establish a European beachhead–and capitalism–in the Middle East. Taking land and resources from native people and funneling them into our pockets, our system: what it’s all about. This is what 600-plus US military bases around the world are all about, too.
Make sure that if there’s any water on that land, you establish armed Israeli camps around it, start building aqueducts. And place a few settler houses nearby, in case you decide you need more lebensraum later.
Nobody of sane mind would allow their country to be partitioned for the sake of a disturbed foreign ideology. It only suited you illegal immigrants on their land.
Nakba denial is repulsive. Erasing out the Palestinians has been Israel’s policy since David Ben-Gurion gave the order in 1948 to expel all Palestinians from Israel. Operation Dalet — “Wipe them out.” More recently, Sharon’s policy of colonization of West Bank through the settlements, check points, the separation wall inside West Bank, encouraging Palestinian emigation, particularly for Palestinian Christians, are all tactics to remove the Palestinians from their land. Israel has not and will not succeed.
A UN mandate isn’t theft. Well according to their very own charter it is.
Forget is, Jim. It’s Urinetown.
I stopped paying attention to Dylan, the person, many decades ago, back when started finding god and flirting with christianity and judaism. And in the last decade he has been outspoken about NOT being a spokesperson for the things “progressive” which have long been associated with the “message” of his music.
And this is clearly a guy who loves his money too… and, hey, that’s fine, Bob. Whatever floats your boat.
Paul Simon once said – “trust the art, not the artist.”
hmmm…
Nice seeing you too CTut. All the grandchildren are elongating nicely, the twins seem to have inherited our musical interests and abilities which pleases me greatly.
In other family news Du is now Major Du having spent the shortest time possible as Captain. His regiment held a bash for his promotion and the dishing out of medals. According to his RCO they had to delay writing up his citation for a bit while they ransacked the thesaurus for superlatives. (Proud father here).
mfi
May I enquire of the thread author and indeed most of the other participants here why they’re feeding the hasbarite troll?
mfi
Please allow me to disabuse of the notion that I have the slightest intention of entering into dialogue with a serial liar such as yourself.
mfi
Lol. Just to inform the uninformed
No, the paraphrase is fine. I said I thought there should be a credible link that could be cited to the quote. Given its outrageousness.
“But, the other guys are worse”? Really, you think that constitutes a rational defense of overt racism? We should support an apologetically racist state because some of its neighbors might be worse? Oy.
It is a slap in the face to anybody who truly believes in equality.
Because he’s not interested – in the same way as the apologists for Rhodesia weren’t interested in the same way as the apologists for South Africa weren’t interested. What he’s interested in is upholding a racist settler state. More fool you for allowing him to do it too. Racist scum like Yishai and their apologists such as Jim are not even remotely interested in dialogue. They’re interested in making their opponents waste time and resources as “Jim” has very successfully done here.
mfi
Indeed. Yet readers who scroll down through this entire comment thread might come to a realization that “Jim” had no real answers. Perhaps the next time that reader encounters the lines “Jim” reiterated so blandly, and recited from rote, the person will be able to more easily detect the falsity of hasbara-speak.
I see that the Israel/Palestine title discrepancy ( the proverbial erectile size and pissing distance contest ) is reinvigorated by a little racist Viagra. Israel has become such a headache anymore. This is an old racist fart issue, I’d ask Judge Judy to solve it, but she hasn’t gotten over our civil rights either.
Jews once sympathized with our black problem in the 60′s, what happened?
Israeli universalist hero Israel Shahak’s amazing book, “Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3000 years is available for free online at various sites. Highly recommended for everybody interested in Mid East politics and U.S. foreign policy/solvency:
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http://iamthewitness.com/books/Israel.Shahak/Jewish.History.Jewish%20Religion-The.Weight.of.Three.Thousand.Years.pdf
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