Back on October 5th, the leaders of several American Christian churches sent a joint letter to Congress [PDF]:
We urge an immediate investigation into possible violations by Israel of the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act and the U.S. Arms Export Control Act which respectively prohibit assistance to any country which engages in a consistent pattern of human rights violations and limit the use of U.S. weapons to “internal security” or “legitimate self-defense.”
More broadly, we urge Congress to undertake careful scrutiny to ensure that our aid is not supporting actions by the government of Israel that undermine prospects for peace. We urge Congress to hold hearings to examine Israel’s compliance, and we request regular reporting on compliance and the withholding of military aid for non-compliance.
Here’s the list of signatories:
Rev. Gradye Parsons Stated Clerk of the General Assembly Presbyterian Church (USA)
Mark S. Hanson Presiding Bishop Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Bishop Rosemarie Wenner President, Council of Bishops United Methodist Church
Peg Birk Transitional General Secretary National Council of Churches USA
Shan Cretin General Secretary American Friends Service Committee
J Ron Byler Executive Director Mennonite Central Committee U.S.
Alexander Patico North American Secretary Orthodox Peace Fellowship
Diane Randall Executive Secretary Friends Committee on National Legislation
Dr. A. Roy Medley General Secretary American Baptist Churches, U.S.A.
Rev. Geoffrey A. Black General Minister and President United Church of Christ
Rev. Dr. Sharon E. Watkins General Minister and President Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
Rev. Julia Brown Karimu President, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Division of Overseas Ministries Co-Executive, Global Ministries (UCC and Disciples)
Rev. Dr. James A. Moos Executive Minister, United Church of Christ, Wider Church Ministries Co-Executive, Global Ministries (UCC and Disciples)
Kathy McKneely Acting Director Maryknoll Office for Global Concerns
Eli S. McCarthy, PhD Justice and Peace Director Conference of Major Superiors of Men (CMSM)
Some of these religious leaders issued supplementary statements from the offices of their own faith. The United Church of Christ, representing over a million people, issued a statement:
The UCC has sought to constrain the militarization of the Middle Area after the passage of a 2005 General Synod resolution, said Dr. Peter Makari, area executive to the Middle East and Europe for Global Ministries.
“The UCC has been consistent in its condemnation of violence, regardless of its source,” Makari said.
The UCC joins its ecumenical partners “in expressing the concern that U.S. assistance to Israel has been and remains unconditional, is in violation of U.S. law on foreign assistance, and contributes toward the continuation of a military occupation of Palestinian lands, which is antithetical to efforts to promote peace between the Palestinians and Israelis,” Makari said.
The churches and religious organizations, committed to seeking a just peace between Palestinians and Israelis, also point to what they write is a “troubling and consistent pattern of disregard by the government of Israel for U.S. policies that support a just and lasting peace. Specifically, repeated demands by the U.S. government that Israel halt all settlement activity have been ignored.”
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, representing over 3.4 million parishioners, issued a long statement regarding the letter to congress, quoting the head of the church,the Rev. Mark S. Hanson, presiding bishop:
“When as Lutherans we say that all the baptized will strive for justice and peace in all the earth, it means that we will be immersed in complex issues. While we do not all agree on the best way to establish justice and bring peace, we will be involved in lively, respectful, passionate conversations,” said Hanson.
“From Palestinian Lutherans, I hear discouragement about the lack of progress and questions about where the voice is of American Christians,” said Hanson. “Our letter seeks to be a partial answer to such questions, that we are clear in our resolve to continue to work for a just and lasting solution for Israelis and Palestinians.”
Together, the signatory churches represent more people than live in Israel of all faiths. Yet there were almost no news articles about the letter in the American press, outside of some Jewish community news outlets and sites, when the investigation request was sent and announced. There were a number of them in the Israeli press.
Late this past week, though, the story gained more notice, when Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League protested the letter, and then announced he is pulling out of an upcoming National Council of Churches meeting:
The Anti-Defamation League said Thursday (Oct. 11) it has withdrawn from an Oct. 22 U.S. Jewish-Christian interfaith meeting to protest a letter from some Protestant participants that urged Congress to rethink U.S. funding to Israel.
ADL National Director Abraham Foxman said the signatories’ actions — without first informing Jewish groups — have “seriously damaged the foundation for mutual respect” necessary for interfaith dialogue.
Daniel S. Mariaschin, executive vice president of B’nai B’rith International, called the letter “a thinly veiled attempt to try to harm Israel, and U.S.-Israel relations.” The Reform movement’s Washington-based Religious Action Center said the letter “mischaracterizes” the situation in Israel and the Palestinian territories, “wrongly holds only Israel accountable” for regional problems “and does not advance the regional and security interests of the U.S.”
Interestingly, J Street, the lobbying group formed in April, 2008, as a liberal alternative to AIPAC (I hosted J Street founder Jeremy Ben-Ami here at firedoglake in 2011, for a book salon on his work, A New Voice for Israel), has condemned the Christians’ letter:
It was inevitable. Constantly under pressure from the Jewish center-right (Reform rabbis, for instance), J Street has thrown in the towel. Read its document of surrender.
In response to the letter from Christian denominations urging that aid to Israel be compliant with U.S. law, J Street has joined Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation league and the half-million a year hacks that run the other Jewish organizations to blast the Christians. (See Foxman letter).
J Street agrees with them that aid to Israel is an entitlement. It must never be questioned unless you also add ” criticism of Israel’s behavior with appropriate criticism of, for instance, rocket fire from Gaza into Israeli civilian areas.” You must also ”put the present situation into a historical or political context that might provide a fuller appreciation for the complexity of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict over many decades.”
Each new month brings another Christian group to question what its relationship should be with the increasingly hostile, increasingly racist and overtly apartheid state of Israel. And increasingly, Jewish groups in America are being asked to be openly critical of these moves, whether it be this one, or votes to consider divesting from businesses in Israel, or with firms which enable the occupation and colonization of the West Bank.
Rather than inquire as to why these spiritually-founded religious bodies feel impelled to sanction Israel, many Jewish organizations, commentators and public figures are likening these moves to anti-Semitism, which it most certainly is not. These Jewish protesters seem to fail to understand that these labels, thrown around like they are in such cases, not only will not stick or sting, they will further alienate Christians who are already committed to courses of action they have tied to the doctrines of their beliefs.
Marc Ellis observed the following, while covering the debate during the Presbyterian assembly vote on divestment, last summer:
When it became clear that Israel as a state wasn’t interested in justice for Palestinians and that Jewish leadership in America was only interested in silencing Christian misgivings about Israeli occupation policies, it was only a matter of time before the Jewish-Christian love fest came to an end.
Among the liberal Christian denominations, Christian support for Israel is on life support. The back-up oxygen tanks, already in use, are running empty. There isn’t any way of resurrecting the interfaith ecumenical deal. The “Christians are evil/Jews are innocent” genie is out of the bottle, never to return.
Indeed, it is out of the bottle. Here is a comment to an article on Foxman’s announcement in Arutz Sheva:
If you really respected the other guy’s faith, you’d be practicing it. Just as is said about gays, you can hate the sin and love the person, there is nothing to love about religions that have persecuted and murdered millions of Jews for the past 2,000 years.
The bottom line is that Christian-Jewish ecumenical relations have entered a new phase over the past two years. I expect these actions protesting Israeli and American policies will grow more acute, rather than less.




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If you can not ken why American Jews don’t wish to join in being critical of Israel while the world maintains silence concerning the far, far more
in the Middle east and other places it might be wise to give it some more thought.
I have given this a lot of thought.
All of these churches are very vocal in their criticism of human rights abuses in other countries as well. However, the issue they are bringing to Congress is real – the illegality of providing massive amounts of aid to Israel under US law. None of the critics of the letter, including Foxman and Jeremy Ben-Ami even mention the substance of the request in their complaints about it. Nor do you.
Finally, they brave the fraudulent moral minefield!
really? which ones are prominent in questioning the rampant human rights abusing in Iran? in Saudi Arabia?
Great information, ET. I have not seen a single word about this in any of the media. This issue should not be ignored.
Thanks.
Spirit lifting and timely. The unconditionality of American military support for Israel is profoundly destabilizing and makes a just and lasting peace in the Middle East nearly an impossibility.
I did rather enjoy MJ Rosenberg’s take on it, today, ET…! ;-)
Highly rec’d, btw…! ;-)
More and more American Jews have given it great thought and the years and decades since 1967 have afforded much time for these thoughts. For many, the existential question has changed from “Can Israel survive in the midst of hostile neighbors” to “Can Israel survive its own amoral and destructive behavior”. The moral compass that Judaism brings to a person leads to the clear answer: “No”.
Thanks. I linked to MJ’s article in my diary.
Always a pleasure to assist, ET…! *g*
Right On, FDL…! ;-)
Front-paged, ET…! *g*
and I’m one of the people who decided soon after 67 that he could not support Israel’s settlement policies and enforcement of same, but that does not have much bearing on the imbalance that ET is bringing to the page in this half-ashed essay.
and while I loathe Foxman and hate what’s become of the ADL, he has every right not to participate in dialogue with a bunch of folks who are taking this stand while running from any comment concerning the far, far more vile regimes in Iran and Saudi Arabia and Gaza and many other places in the ME.
Half-ashed, eh? Maybe it is best I’ve got to get into my car right now to drive 50 miles to work. Your accusations about these churches not being concerned about human rights in other places are inaccurate and misleading, though.
Cheers
Safe journeys, ET…! ;-)
have a good trip, ET and do find the time to link to the statements from these same churchfolk concerning the horrors of the Iranian theocrats and the Arabian autocrats….
I’ll be looking for those links lifting me from by ignorance on the morrow.
Fascist rubbish.
The places you mentioned don’t even pretend to be democracies and Israel is a democracy. It doesn’t work to say “they’re doing it, too.”
I am old enough to remember the frank talk about when Israel won the now occupied territories, they expected to use the territory to trade for peace concessions. The Israelis didn’t need the land at the time.
The sides never wound up at the bargaining table to end the conflict. It doesn’t take long for someone to feel entitled to something they possess.
and that’s sorta the point of my comments, Twain.
when you get a bunch of gumps waxing indignant about Israel and impersonating these guys about theocrats and autocrats, there’s something wrong.
Are you deliberately missing the point? The United States government is organizing sanctions against Iran. It may go to war with Iran. The US is not sending tax dollars to subsidize the Iranian government. It doesn’t make sense to call on the government to stop doing something it isn’t doing. I don’t know how to state it more clearly.
I don’t want my tax dollars subsidizing what any neutral examination of a map of Israeli settlements and connecting roads will show is an effort to annex the West Bank.
Should internationally recognized Israeli borders be threatened, I believe the US will honor its commitments to Israel.
Excellent post! Recc’d & Tweeted!
Will someone demand that whatever aid goes to Israel from the U.S. in 2014; military, loans, technical advisers, classified intelligence be linked to complete U.N inspections of all nuclear facilities and labs within their territorial boundaries? I’m including in this the ” occupied territories ” and all religious sites. The country of Israel has the 23rd largest G.D.P. in the world and needs our foreign aid like it needs more sand. These liberal churches aren’t really all that liberal. They’re just being rational, and, thus refreshingly evenhanded. As opposed to the evangelical churches who are religious tools and worse. The way to end this whining and blustering by Israel is to deny them their carte blanche credit card.
Hysterical response. Did you read what the churches wrote?
@Dubinsky@#4: They’re asking Congress for a review of policy, not criticizing bad bahavior internationally. Isreal is the one who’s sucking up billions of American $ and ignoring UN agreements and agreements with us.
@Dubinsky@#12: Essay? Looked like a recitation of some communication of these church groups with the US Congress to me.
@Dubinsky@#15: While, I’m sure, we would all love to criticize every person, group, party or nation that does not have an exemplary human rights record, it does not seem wrong to pick out a really egregious example upon which to focus. Isreal is, after all, the only one we currently support.
PS @Dubinsky@#12: Gaza is not a regime. In fact, I guess it would be fair to say that the regime in Gaza is Isreali.
Me neither.
Good shot ET!
Christ! Don’t tell me end of times has been postponed again. Next the fundies will side with the Palestinians.
…Next the fundies will side with the Palestinians…
Oh Snap….! ;-)
no, I’m not missing the point. the US also organizies the defense of saudi Arabia and went to war with Iraq to prevent an Iraqi invasion of Arabia on the heels of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
which agreements?
and don’t join the gumps in ignoring the more egregious actual totalitarians and concentrating solely on Bibi’s little band of would-be crypto-fascists
So why do you want Israel to skate on murdering Gazans?
Got some time on my hands to reply.
First of all, dubinsky, these are Christian churches. They are named after what they believe Jesus became after he was crucified in Jerusalem. Before that, Jesus had preached in many places in what is now Israel and Palestine. Many prominent places in the Gospels are under siege right now by an increasingly hostile settler population. Almost every week, one reads of a new incident where a sacred Christian site has been defaced in a “pricetag” attack. Palestine is the birthplace of the signatory clerics’ faith, not Saudi Arabia, not Persia, not Sri Lanka, not Guatemala, not North Korea. And Bethlehem, the town where Jesus supposedly was born, has been turned into a labyrinth of apartheid walls, checkpoints and armed settler thugs.
Secondly, I think that, in regard to Israel, they should be engaging Congress on even more than what they have brought up, so consider their action restrained, rather than out of focus as you seem to. We have known for decades that Israel has one of the largest nuclear arsenals on the planet. Yet we illegally cover for them. It is against our laws to support Israel materially, based on that one issue alone.
I’m not bringing this issue to firedoglake because I am a Christian. I was brought up, baptized and confirmed in one of the signatory faiths, but am no longer a Christian. But I have to say the horror stories told to me by some of my many Palestinian and Palestinian-American Christian friends help me understand why Christian leaders are upset about what is happening to their brethren in the land of the fount of their faith.
“Which agreements?” Puh-lease!
Gumps?
Crypto-fascists? How about para-fascists? I think the point is that Bibi and his little band have run completely off the rails.
*heh* Just call ‘em what they are…! Settlers, ‘Nuf said…! ;-)
Desert Storm was about defending Saudi Arabia from Iraq? Next you’ll be telling me that Saddam personally pulled Kuwaiti babies from incubators.
FYI, Iraq had long maintained that Kuwait is actually an Iraqi province. Also FYI, April Glaspie, wittingly or not, let Saddam think that he had the tacit go-ahead from the Bush Administration to retake Kuwait. Whether intended on her part or simply a monumental miscalculation, it provided a perfect excuse for the US to militarily discipline an erstwhile ally that, now that its long (and US-fueled) war with Iran had ended, was no longer considered by Bushies like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld to be of much use to the US, and perhaps (because of its modified Socialist stance and well-trained military) a threat to US (and/or corporate) interests.
I think the legal term is ” squatters “. Though, Bibi & Co are Haarrrvvaarrdd men and I’d guess they like to be called real estate developers and their ” work ” called Countrywide Urban Renewal. As opposed to that misleading term of ” State Gentrification “.
Oh, and before you start in on the horrors of life under Saddam, be reminded that the US has embraced nations whose leaders make Saddam look mild and gentle in comparison. (Go look up Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, for starters.) Be also reminded that for many Iraqis, such as this female blogger from Baghdad, life under Saddam was a lot better than life after him.
And too, Joe was looking for someplace to showoff his M1A1 Abrams MBT, and man did Kuwait provide a stage for that!
Good point.
Defenders of Israel who also criticize the erosion of women’s or Christians’ rights in Iraq since 2003, or in Afghanistan since the advent of the Taliban through US funding in the early 1980s are few.
When we started pumping money and light anti-aircraft rockets to the Afghan insurgents, those insurgents were bent on eradicating a socialist regime that was rapidly educating the female Afghan population. The Afghan education program was led by a woman.
When April Glaspie unwittingly started the First Gulf War, Christians and women in Iraq were the best educated in that part of the world, except the Israelis and maybe the Turks.
And the nutcases who thought all that stuff was in good idea territory want us to make things uglier for women in Syria and Persia.
“Securing the Realm” has only made it less secure.
so why do you think that I want the Israelis to skate on murdering Gazans?
don’t recall mentioning that I favored such, my dear.
perhaps you weren’t paying close attention to the deployment of Iraqi troops right as they were overrunning Iraq….and perhaps as well you didn’t pay attention to what was motivating Iraq to invade Kuwait at that particular time (and instead figured that as there was a historical claim, then that time was as good as any other to resolve it via force of arms).
Maybe you could respond to my #30 before you make demands upon Phoenix Woman?
maybe you could point out what I’m demanding of PW?
and I’ll gladly respond to your #30 right after you respond to my request in #15
I did in #30. Are you a dues-paying member of DENSA?
Dear Mr. Teller: While standing in the commons of downtown Portland in 2003, among 40,000 fellow citizens sharing their common spiritual hopes, it was abundantly clear to all the domestic policy of the the State of Israel had gone ” bonkers “. To assess the downward spiral of American-Israeli policy in the Middle East is really beside the point. They are merely the smoke obscuring the source of the fire. The moves by our Political Right; The Post WWII Establishment, has always been to use every opportunity and to create them when absent, the concepts of conflict and manufactured internal dissent. Religion, Socialism and Militarism are mere headers for the aims of The Establishment. The wealth of nations is really the wealth of the few exploiting their inherent advantages to overcome any obstacle. The will of the governed? The vote? Democratic institutions leveling the playing field? Not many of the those 40,000 were in it for themselves. They knew most people thought them to be naive. And they saw the ” crowd control committee ” hovering. But they didn’t need a PhD to figure out that the wind machine blowing the smoke from the fire was the U.S. National Fire Dept. And they didn’t need official state translators or editors. They sensed, in fact, that’s exactly the wrong prescription to solving complex international conflict. And, they were right then and they’re still right today.
no, but I liked the quip.
you failed to actually reply, ET, in other than the most tangential of manner.
you did not at all respond with any info as to whether these Christians have stood up to the fascistic Saudis and Iranians….all you did was pass off some mumble about “price tag” attacks…..as if spit such as that compares to the outright fascistic intolerance of a nation where carrying a copy of the New Testament is enough to get your entry in the country barred.
there used to be a little lady yclept “Leen” about who was always talking about her Christian missionary friends going to the West Bank to preach and witness…..and I always wondered when they would go to Iran or Arabia yto do the same.
X2
I don’t disagree, but the joint investigation request by the representatives of so many millions of American Christians is remarkable.
Nor did you respond to the centrality of Israel-Palestine to the signatories’ belief system. I dare you, dub. I dare you.
Are you anti-Christian in the sense that you don’t believe these faiths have as much right to what happens at the birthplace of their faith as anyone does?
A red herring – see #20 + #23. And as a former UMC minister, I assure you all the liberal Protestant faiths represented in that letter care deeply about the repression of human rights under all totalitarian regimes.
thanks
caring is quite different from attempting to bring pressure to bear, pup.
Remarkable indeed -these many denominations speaking publically with one voice. Excellent submission. Highly Rec’d.
I see that idea as not at all central, ET. . . and I guess that I’m anti-Hebraic sufficiently to think that the Jews haven’t much more right to rule over Jerusalem than the younger religions.
what little I know of Christianity doesn’t convince me that the ground trod by the messenger is of greater import than the message of universality.
Why do you think Jews have “more right” to rule over Jerusalem than Christians, if not “much more”? I actually think the Christians might perhaps have the greatest of the rights among the three claimants.
Do you think the original 1947 idea of an external administration (quasi-UN?) over the place might have been a better idea than what we have?
Since your argument is a red herring, it is not incumbant upon me to ferret out and provide specifics. But I am confident my assertion is backed up with substantative actions due to long history of same in all denominations represented in letter.
I direct your attention one final time to #20 + #23.
I coulda sworn that I was explicit in rejecting the idea about “more right’….could be that your getting DENSA and DENSA as we go on.
I thought the original partition plan that was accepted by the (soon-to-be) Israelis and rejected by the Palestinians and which “internationalized” Jerusalem was OK…..but the Arabs put paid to it.
It certainly would have been better to have Jerusalem as a city of peace and co-operation and tolerance rather than have it end up a prize of war, but your Christian buds should bear witness to the fact that the followers of Islam would not give up their privileges and expectations of custodial control over the city…and it’s churches.
dub, you continue to miss the point of what these clerics expressed in their request for an investigation.
Why don’t you write a diary here explaining to us why what they did was wrong?
You might show how they lacked the depth to also request investigations elsewhere, providing ample links.
If you do that, and write it well, I will recommend it and support you.
I am. I turn 66 in weeks and parts of my body and mind don’t work as well as they did when I was younger. Write your diary, dubinsky.
I read the letter as a sounding a warning bell about the increasing U.S. militarization generally and especially in the MidEast, and the unquestioning transfer of arms and treasure to one actor which appears to be increasing, rather than diminishing (i.e. bolstering defense) the prospects for war. The denominations listed are the liberal ones, who don’t have much invested in the “Holy Lands for Christians” preoccupations of the evangelicals. These are the almost extinct, sane, moderate Christians. Their concern is resource allocation (butter vs guns) here at home, and a U S foreign policy which serves the Defense establishment rather than citizens.
Remarkable, truly. And all I can say that among those thousands gathered I was never once asked what my affiliation was. Religious, political or otherwise. We did the ” all we are saying is give peace a chance ” thing. But, it could of been ” god dammit, at least give peace a seat at the table ” you miserable cowards. Killing is a very easy national answer to people who are more interested in quieting their own inner demons than the demons of a complicated world. How lazy have our ” elites ” become? I would venture they are so smug, so self righteous and so cocksure they don’t even want to hear the details of their latest catastrophic power plays. Thank these religious institutions for saying, ” hey, we are still paying attention, assholes. ” I also think the commons is a good, and equally sacred, place to submit position papers.
did I hear a second here?
dub, it’s in your court.
Your responses have been cogent, accurate, and sufficient. Any challenge which includes name calling is not worthy of a response.
This is another reason an external Jerusalem administration would be important. No faith should have preeminence there.
to be fair to deb, I bought up DENSA first.
Surely that’s meant to be satirical. He can’t mean that seriously, can he?
Your responses have been cogent, accurate, and sufficient…! As ET has always been, but, who am I to say so…? ;-)
That is MJ Rosenberg writing about J Street’s objection to the letter, not what J Street wrote or said. Look at the quote. It has embedded hyperlinks to what J Street responded with.
Oops! Thanks. I thought that was the founder of J-Street saying that.
An excellent diary. Rec’d.
Without expressing an opinion either way, I just want to point out:
Threats from Abe Foxman does not = American Jews have spoken on this subject (or any other subject). Maybe not even every member of the Anti-Defamation League.
Without re-litigating Desert Storm, I find it impossible to believe that April Glaspie did not consult with higher ups before telling Saddam that the U.S. had no interest in his little border dispute with Kuwait.
Even a janitor in the State Department would have known better than to shoot from the hip in response to Hussein’s attempts to feel out the U.S. before acting against Kuwait.
(I recognized that you went out of way not to say anything about that subject. I am not disagreeing with you, just chiming in with my own opinion about Glaspie’s communications with Saddam.)
Follow the money.
Too many organizations and companies have made or raised, and continue to make or raise, a bundle on Israeli-Arab conflict.
Someone needs to figure out how governments, individuals and officers of charitable organizations on all sides can get rich (or a reasonable facsimile thereof)on peace in the Middle East.
Anyone know any manufacturers of weapons of peace who might want to lobby the MIC on this issue?
That was supposed to be a reply to the original post on the thread, not a reply to dubinsky.
Gee. What’s the position of the Papal Banker State? What’s expediant and profitable for the Pope?
Re much of what’s above:
This is a straightforward question: Whether Israel is complying with two specific U.S. statutes governing its use of the millions of U.S. tax dollars that it receives as foreign aid each year.
The churches request “an immediate investigation into possible violations by Israel of the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act and the U.S. Arms Export Control Act which respectively prohibit assistance to any country which engages in a consistent pattern of human rights violations and limit the use of U.S. weapons to ‘internal security’ or ‘legitimate self-defense.’
Please note: Israel’s use of U.S. weapons for “legitimate self-defense” would comply. The churches do not challenge that.
Further, the churches never assert that Israel IS violating these statutes. They ask only about “possible violations.”
The U.S. Foreign Assistance Act is codified at 22 U.S. Code, Section 2151 et seq. Sorry to lack the precise cite to the provision that this Wikipedia squib quotes:
“This act states that no assistance will be provided to a government which ‘engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights, including torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment, prolonged detention without charges, causing the disappearance of persons by the abduction and clandestine detention of those persons, or other flagrant denial of the right to life, liberty, and the security of person, unless such assistance will directly benefit the needy people in such country. ‘ “[2]
Would anyone dispute the evidence of the Israeli government’s having engaged in some of these prohibited practices, e.g., “prolonged detention without charges,” as to Palestinians?
If a country is apparently using U.S. foreign aid in violation of the conditions that Congress has placed on this aid, then how is it not legitimate for Congress to investigate this and, if the recipient country is found to be in violation, to require that law’s enforcement?
If it’s legitimate to investigate, then simply requesting an investigation is legitimate. This is all that the churches have done.
My view, as a former federal prosecutor? Congress should have investigated on its own long since.
Re Palestinian rockets into Israel, which I certainly do not condone: Please note the explicit provision that “legitimate self-defense” is a legitimate use of U.S. assistance.
Anyone who can supply the statutory cite, please be my guest. No Lexis subscriber I.
Great work, ET! Rec’d
x2. Spot on.
If you check out the link in my comment, you’ll find that it goes to a piece whose author, Stephen Walt, questions fellow FP writer David Kenner’s assertion that this Iraq-related WikiLeaks cable release somehow proved that Glaspie didn’t intend to give Saddam permission to attack Kuwait.
From the article:
to which I unreservedly agree. Foxman is a blight and is accorded far more ink than he merits…..
Nice post, ET!
(One quibble: the ELCA has 4.2 million members.)
For those interested in a much deeper look at the ELCA’s work for Peace Not Walls efforts in the Middle East, here’s the place to go. The letter in the post isn’t a one-off statement, but part of a long engagement with Jews, Christians, and Muslims throughout the region.
History student here.
Did the US have no previously stated concerns regarding Kuwait? I think the US has a long record of clearly stating its position on Saudi Arabia and it leaves little to the imagination. Something like: “Messing with Saudi Arabia is hazardous to your health; thouch them and you die!” Figuratively speaking, of course.
Considering the untold horrors that mankind in the name of a pale knock off of Horus has unleashed upon this world in the name of brotherly love, perhaps it would be best if the anointed representatives of The Chris first ask the world for forgiveness for their horrendous crimes against humanity, and then politely excuse themselves from any serious discussion of human rights, and retreat back to that, and only that, which they are really competent to do: talk and sing to the sky, and then create a racist mythology which is abjectly self-serving.
Hypocrisy disguised in any current flavor of misanthropic religious garb is still but a lie perpetrated by the powerful upon the weak.
Here are a few of the press releases about the ELCA’s concerns across the middle east, to provide some additional context. I offer these as but a few examples of the kind of work the ELCA is trying to do in very difficult circumstances.
ELCA statement condemning violence in Egypt and Libya.
ELCA working to meet needs of Syrian refugees in neighboring Jordan
ELCA Calls for Protection of Christians in Iraq
ELCA Condemnation of the president of Iran’s 2005 denial of the Holocaust
Thank you, Peterr. To say the least.
“The Chris…”
Oops! Make that ‘The Christ’.
The wording of 22 USC 2151- would seem to prohibit the US Congress from providing assistance to the USA. Which of those recognized human rights have we not violated in our post 9/11 spasms.
I don’t subscribe to lexis either, but I’m not clear about why you feel your reference is inadequate. Referencing the statute seems redundant.
PS But then I’m no lawyer.
One more link, then I’ve got to run.
In 2007, Bishop Munib Younan of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Jordan and the Holy Land (a Lutheran partner of the ELCA), addressed the ELCA’s 2007 churchwide assembly. Referring to the fall of the Berlin Wall, he said in part (with emphasis added):
A lot of days have passed since Bishop Younan spoke these words, and events certainly seem to have borne them out, and his question (in bold) remains unanswered.
PL 93-559. Does that help?
A lovely point.
One might quibble that the Act precludes assistance to FOREIGN governments that commit human rights abuses, etc.
The U.S., however, is not a foreign government. It may therefore legitimately provide assistance to itself despite its own human rights abuses.
You don’t need to be a lawyer. Being W.S. Gilbert, however, would be of great use.
Kind of you. Thanks, Mopp!
I’d been surfing in vain for a U.S. Code cite.
Thank you!
Oops, missed that. Apologies to D for that specific name-calling call-out. Still think D’s repeated use of “your Christian buds” unnecessarily diminishes quality of discourse, which in this thread is otherwise incredibly high.
Folks,do any of you recall John McCain’s BFF John Hagee?*
PLEASE check out the Wiki on CUFI-and while you are at it,also take a peek at the entry for Mormonism and Judaism.
*Christians United for Israel – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christians_United_for_Israel
Christians United for Israel (CUFI) is an American pro-Israel Christian organization that defines itself as “a national grassroots movement focused on the support…
You are making the case that all Christian faiths are identical? Do you believe we are supposed to distinguish between various sects of Islam and Judism, but not Christians? Or that all religions are inherently repressive?
For the record, the corner of Christianity represented by these signatories, unfortunately drowned out by the right-wing prosperity theology and Catholic denominations, has an excellent record of defending human liberties – including religious liberty-all over the globe. see #81.
“ Or that all religions are inherently repressive?”
Yes, all Abrahamic religions by their nature and raison d’être have but one goal in mind: to control all aspects of the society upon which they prey: no exceptions.
Think about this for a few lifetimes: Where does racism originate?+
Of Noah’s three sons (some add a fourth), Japheth, Shem, and Ham (fourth on occasion Jenithon), Japheth was the father of the Europeans, Shem the father of the Asians, and Ham the father of the peoples of Africa.
Now it just so happens that a curse was put upon the children of Ham and they were destined to be the slaves/serfs of this world.
God sure works in mysterious ways.
Religion, all religions are the curse of mankind, and are the opiate of the masses (thanks Karl) to detract them from their nasty, brutish, short spin on this mortal coil (thanks Mr. Hobbes).
So it’s just Western religion? (What about Asian religion?) Don’t say I entirely disagree on how the Western versions have played out, just seeking clarity…
Considering the potential volatility of this subject, this may have been one of the most civil high-number-of-comments diaries on an issue involving I/P in fdl’s history. Thanks to everyone who came to this diary seeking to learn more.
It is very offensive that ADL, etc., want to deny Americans the right to say what they think. This idea that we are not allowed to criticize Israel is just wrong.
I am an American Jew, and I disagree profoundly with the ADL’s tactics and charges of “anti-Semitism” in this case.
Thank you.