I. One of my new year’s resolutions is to become a decent bread baker. In many ways I’m close to being a gourmet cook, but bread making is something I’ve neglected.
I buy bread at the store. I’m getting increasingly frustrated, though, at the lack of excellent bakery bread available in stores in southcentral Alaska. When we travel to Seattle, Portland, Oregon or California, the excellent Italian and French style breads readily available from local bakeries overwhelms me so much, I stuff loaves to bring north into empty coolers that brought seafood down from Alaska.
The kind of bread I crave the most that one cannot get here, is the rustic sourdough loaf, with a crunchy crust, big bubble holes in the bread itself, and a tangy, sourdough taste. So, I’ve started trying to make that.
In the past, I’ve tried various sourdough starter recipes – some using yeast, some using yoghurt, some just relying on time itself to create a usable, somewhat stable lactobacillus.
In light of the new year’s resolution, I searched the web for the most interesting sourdough starter recipe. One that seemed quite strange, but fascinating, involved whole wheat flour and pineapple juice. I decided to try it. The site that had both that method and good word and video backup is called Breadtopia.
Supposedly, the pineapple juice starter initiator method was created by Debra Wink, back in early 2008.
Breadtopia’s sourdough starter recipe takes a couple days or more longer to get going than many others, but it goes like this:
Step 1. Mix 3 ½ tbs. whole wheat flour with ¼ cup unsweetened pineapple juice. Cover and set aside for 48 hours at room temperature. Stir vigorously 2-3x/day. (“Unsweetened” in this case simply means no extra sugar added).
Step 2. Add to the above 2 tbs. whole wheat flour and 2 tbs. pineapple juice. Cover and set aside for a day or two. Stir vigorously 2-3x/day. You should see some activity of fermentation within 48 hours. If you don’t, you may want to toss this and start over (or go buy some!)
Step 3. Add to the above 5 ¼ tbs. whole wheat flour and 3 tbs. purified water. Cover and set aside for 24 hours.
Step 4. Add ½ cup whole wheat flour and 1/4 to 1/3 cup purified water. You should have a very healthy sourdough starter by now.
Back in early February, I did just that. I even juiced my own pineapple for freshness. The starter evolved just as it was supposed to. I tried it.
The first time was a failure – the bread did not rise much at all over a twelve-hour period. It didn’t taste tangy. I figured the house wasn’t warm enough.
The second time, the bread rose some, but was still brick-like. It tasted a bit tangy.
The third time, I tried mixing in rye flour. The bread rose a bit more, and tasted tangier. I didn’t call it a success, though, just “progress.” I turned most of the loaf into croutons for a King crab Caesar salad.
The fourth time, shown at the top of the article, was considered a success, by everyone who tasted it, and the loaf disappeared quickly. I followed this recipe like a fundamentalist Christian might follow the Book of Numbers.
Here’s what the replenished starter looks like today. Yesterday, shortly after adding flour and water, it brewed over.
How have you done at sourdough bread making, or at artisan bread baking?
II. Friday, I ended a diary on the possible criminal investigation of Shell Oil’s Arctic drilling ship, Noble Discoverer, with a “side note,” describing my frustration that more and more, I feel less certain humans are capable of avoiding a climate catastrophe that might even turn into an extinction event, or something akin to the effects of the Toba eruption, about 70,000 years ago.
In Antarctica, a relatively small ice sheet, Pine Glacier, and an undersea rock, throttle back the galloping movement of Thwaites Glacier. Were the throttling to stop, Penn State Prof. Richard Alley observed at a conference earlier in February, “if Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica were to cease being pinched or grounded its surge would raise sea level by three meters.
“Nature has done much faster things before, so fast that their passing leaves no signs of its actual happening, just a discontinuity of before and after.”
A three-meter sea rise (from one glacial system alone!) would mean the dislocation of a significant percentage of world population, and the flooding of over two-thirds of the operating nuclear reactors.
So many of the scariest aspects of climate change are things we didn’t even know about forty years ago, thirty years ago, twenty, ten – or even five. This indicates that as computing power grows, there will be even more we discover that is unknown.
Hopefully, some of these discoveries will be mitigators. Unfortunately, though, the bottom line, a Prof. E. O. Wilson observed, is “ecological footprint is already too large for the planet to sustain, and it is getting larger.”
One commenter to my Friday diary’s climate change conclusion, draftmama, wrote:
We have been quietly preparing for when it all falls apart. I am sorry that my daughter is hoping to get pregnant because I fear in less than 40 years the world will be a cross between Blade Runner and Mad Max.
We purchased 10 acres, grow and raise all our own food, and since we are 60 +- hopefully will be able to survive. The planet? Not so much.
I think the story of dropping poisoned mice to kill the brown tree snakes in Guam which have destroyed the bird population (they think there are maybe 500 birds left) is a perfect metaphor for what we have done to the earth.
Not everyone is fortunate enough to own or have 10 acres well more than three meters above sea level, upwind from any nuclear plants. There need to be thousands of green discoveries for urban people, all of them more significant than this algae-powered, CO2-eating lamp:
Meanwhile, I’ll learn more about cultivating sourdough, as I approach the beginning of my 40th year in Alaska.





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The bread baking part of the post helped to mitigate the chill I felt while reading and thinking about the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. That keeps me up nights.
Have never tried my hand at sourdough, but after watching the vid it doesn’t seem so intimidating. Of course, growing a good starter is key, and that’s probably the really tricky part. I must say that the photo of your starter could keep me up at night, too!
I don’t have a cloche baker and just pour a cup of water into a preheated metal pan on the bottom shelf of the oven when I put the dough in to bake. I think I may get one, after seeing the great crust on that loaf of sourdough.
Thanks, ET, and I hope you will continue to share information and thoughts about this slow motion train wreck that seems to be picking up speed. Shiver
Just off the phone with a real sourdough friend of mine – born in Juneau. He puts the bread dough for the sourdough first rise in the ‘fridge for almost 24 hours. It mitigates the breakdown of the flour in the battle between reactions in the dough.
That is something to remember to try, thanks.
I have a super easy go-to that you have probably tried, no knead crusty white bread recipe from King Arthur Flour.
It can rise in the fridge for up to 5 or 6 days, and develops an increasingly tangy flavour the longer you wait to use it. The recipe makes 4 free-form loaves, so you can have bread for several days from one recipe.
Interesting, both parts. I’m curious about the first picture…there look like big white slices of nut or something in it. Are those actual bubble holes? They look solid on my screen.
I’m not especially fond of sourdough, so I doubt I’d go through that much effort to make it. OTOH, if we end up living in Blade Runner world (should I see that movie,after all, for tips?), maybe I’d better learn; how to make bread without yeast. Of course, that raises the question of how you’re going to get the flour, but I’ll leave that aside for now.
I did use to make lots of bread years ago..you know, the seventies. That’s when I started anyway, first from a recipe on the back of the King Arthur Flour package (it was just the local Boston area flour then), then from Laurel’s Kitchen. Jane Brody had a good recipe with a blend of flours, too, that I used to bake a lot.
In fact, I’m trying to revive my baking skills. Last week I made a raisin bread that I’ve done once before. The first try came out beautifully, but last week’s was very dense. Tasty, but dense.
Interesting description of your efforts. Keep us posted.
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The threat of extinction does loom large but I don’t see how climate change could bring it about.
Nick Bostrom explains:
What brings you to Alaska? Did you reside in the lower 48 before?
OmAli & tejanarusa,
King Arthur flour has some interesting recipes. When I feel I’ve got sourdough under control, I’ll start trying some of their artisan bread recipes.
economeister,
I came up to Alaska in late March 1973 from Seattle, where I grew up. In 1972, my best friend and I rented a Cessna 172 and flew up the Columbia from Astoria to the river’s source, then from the source of the Mackenzie to its mouth in the Beaufort Sea. We then visited Alaska briefly. I wanted to come back soon, and did.
Alaska has since become pretty central to who I am in many ways. Working more than fulltime, I don’t get Outside (out of state) much, but hope to do that more when my wife and I retire in a couple of years.
I’d like to help a close friend develop THC-infused late harvest wine products in Washington state. We hope to do some preliminary research this coming summer. People who don’t wish to smoke pot need to have viable, quality, perhaps gourmet options.
the white slices – butter.
Well, you’re a bona fide Alaskan. I’m out of sorts here in Italy. Speaking Italian would probably help.
Being in Alaska no doubt raises the stakes on the climate change issue. Sometimes I wish I was born 30 years earlier. I don’t like where we are headed.
Ah, thanks. I thought they were inside, but they were on the slice, then.
My wife has spent much of the past three years mentoring young teachers in communities that would become submerged with three meters of ocean rise. Some of the communities have been there since before the Sumerians created their towns.
I ordered some San Francisco starter from Sourdoughs, Inc., and also bought their book. I haven’t started making it yet, but still plan to in the next week or so. Meanwhile, I have a no-knead bread recipe from Cook’s Illustrated that adds beer and white vinegar to the original recipe in the NYT. The sourdo book also says you can make theirs that way. I bake it in a cast iron combo cooker that is inexpensive and came highly recommended by the author of another favorite bread book from the owner of San Francisco’s famed Tartine Bakery.
I truly love the sour, tangy bread available in San Francisco (like from SemiFreddi’s) and hope to duplicate it at home.
Your description above is something I’d like to try. Thanks for posting it!
I like Tartine breads. Never heard of SemiFreddi’s. I think my favorite Bay area bakery is Model Bakery in Napa and St. Helena.
Thanks for the ideas!
For now I’m sticking with what I feel I can be the most immediately proactive with. Fighting to retain what clean water is left in the Great Lakes and tributaries and things like baking bread.
Sour dough I suppose has been mastered, but not by me. However, it does not take too long for the tang in the flavor to develop in the starter. I keep my starter in a stoneware crock (circa 1970, frosh college ceramics class) where it can breathe and this particular container is kept about half full, so when refreshing the starter after using it, there is room for expansion without danger of explosion and natural yeasts, specific to your surroundings have a chance to permeate your starter.
My starter was only begun this fall with the first method in the old reliable Tassajara Bread Book.
A little dry yeast, warm water, a little sugar or honey and flour, stir ocassionally for 5 days.
Alternately a sour food, older rice, fruit, milk, vegetables and flour, stir and water as necessary to make it spongy.
SemiFreddi’s is great sourdough in the SanFran area. I used to take some home in my luggage when I visited. Another brand is usually for sale at the SF airports, just for people to take home. Don’t think it was SemiFreddi’s, though, maybe it was Boudin. They’re both good.
My recipe says to use two quart glass canning jars. Once the starter begins to develop in the first jar, you can put the extra into the second jar. At some point you have two jars of active starter and can give one to a friend.
Tartine Bread (book) just specifies mixing up the flour (half white and half whole wheat) in water, then setting it in a cool shaded spot for 2 – 3 days. It gets bacteria and other stuff just from the air. Then you feed it once it begins to ripen, then discard some, feed again, etc.
OMG my mouth is watering! Warm sourdough with real butter. YUM.
During the final rise in these pyrex loaf pans, my favorite, I brush the tops with water (pastry brush) and keep a damp linen cloth over everything to keep them from drying out until going into the oven, and I have a pan of water in the oven for the first half hour of baking. I slit the tops with a knife just before baking with these two loaves which were a medium density rye, with more rye than the recipe called for. I rarely follow the exact procedure each time for one reason or another.
More fine flour or pastry type flours I think will give you a less dense loaf, I think. I usually mix my dough and starter at least twelve hours before doing loaf forming and final rises.
New starters can get more flavorful left unrefrigerated for a week or so when first creating your starter.
I just ordered the Tassajara Bread Book. Have never tried making sourdough but you and msmolly and ET are great motivators.
My mouth waters at the thought, too, Molly! I love to butter it and stick it under the broiler and then serve with fried eggs.
nonqui, when you say rye flour you don’t mean with caraway seeds, do you?
Hello msmolly,
Get that bread machine of yours, kicking out a sour loaf, will you? ;^)
Keeping a starter fresh by using it frequently, I know is easier to do with more than one or two people in a household.
All the best, people. Try sourdough, you will like it.
Omi,
I mean King Arthur rye flour off the store shelf, or that, plus flour ground fresh in my Corona stone grinder using organic whole rye berries, available at the local natural food retailer.
Just popping by before doing some work….you made that crock yourself? Wow, impressive.
I love stoneware and crocks; yours is lovely, a great blue color.
OmAli, you’ll enjoy Tassajara Bread. So many choices and variations.
Have fun. (And take pictures, along with the pix of Arry and Mottyl).
Going “poof” now! Fun post!
Philip, that is a great looking loaf pictured in the diary. Marvelous, thanks for the post.
A couple of acres 700 ft above sea level, here. The best. Thank You again. Trying to get support the allowance of the owners to deactivate the two nuke facilities 150 miles south, though.
They are past designed age plus operating extensions by twenty years but the costs to keep operating are coming to a head so we’ll see what happens shortly. Plant owners want out. Some silver linings?
Beautiful, sturdy sourdough crock, nq! Nice bread in the next picture too.
I haven’t pulled out the Tassajara Bread Book in, uh, decades. Maybe it’s because I got it from my first wife. Pulling it out.
OT, but not ready to write a new diary on Shell, as some remarkable stuff may be coming down.
The local consensus on why to USCG has referred the Noble Discoverer safety and equipment lapses to the DOJ seems to be centering on the findings discovered in the redacted material turned over to Rep. Markey, which list some typical, and some somewhat surprising lapses on board.
However, this blog entry, by an Alaska blog that has broken interesting criminal investigative stories far ahead of anywhere else in the past, goes into totally new territory:
Alas, my budding interest in breadbaking has to take a back seat to getting the spouse’s weight down. He only really seems to keep it off if he can avoid carbs.
RE: Nuclear power — I see the come-to-Jesus moment Angela Merkel had in the wake of Fukushima and I think that things aren’t totally hopeless. Germany’s solar energy potential is similar to Alaska’s (similar latitudes, plus cloudy winters in Germany, are the reason), yet Germany gets between 3% and 10% of its energy from the sun — and solar’s the weak sister compared to German investment in wind power. Also, the development of 3D printing means that cheap and flexible (perhaps even wearable) solar cells should be coming our way soon. I’d like to see them embedded in the Solar Roadways.
(Meanwhile, Estonia’s not waiting for these new technologies — it’s just installed a nationwide network of fast-charging stations for electric vehicles.)
I do wish that Iran wasn’t trying to get nuclear power or a bomb, though what with Israel and the US itching for a pretext to invade/bomb/etc. that country, I can’t say as I blame the Iranians — look at how well North Korea’s managed to keep all the Stupor Powers off its back once it made it known that it possessed nuclear weapons.
LOL, I only had one wife, and she didn’t want any of my darned old hippie stuff when she left. I gave up trying to perfect any particular bread recipe a while back. The two or three that I can replicate fairly well are some seasonal nut breads that are very much like my Mom used to make for the holidays and the siblings like that a lot.
I volunteered as the prof’s assistant in the ceramics department and had a nice little cash flow sideline that year in college. A pot in every dorm room was my motto and I came close to fulfilling the mission.
Cheers, starting on a second small glass of wine so that’s it for the evening.
I wish to make a slight correction: Solar is no longer wind’s “weak sister” in Germany — in fact, it’s poised to overtake it:
http://cleantechnica.com/2012/07/25/solar-on-verge-of-overtaking-wind-in-germany/
That is simply amazing, given Germany’s weak profile as a solar power nation.
Just pulled out the Tassajara Bread Book. Bought it in 1976 ($3.95 on back cover – now lists for $12.95, which is a good price), so not from my first wife. My second wife was then my deckhand on my fishing boat in Cordova, Alaska, then a grade school teacher in Whittier. When I moved there from Cordova, we domesticated, so that’s probably when I bought the book. The only recipes marked in it are banana bread, Tibetan barley bread, unyeasted brown rice bread, cream scones, and a lot of desserts. Time to look it over again.
Thanks, all, for sharing sourdough and bread making information and stories.
Actually, I do have a bread machine, and it does make sourdough starter. I haven’t used it for that, however. There’s a recipe in the bread machine book for honey wheat (very little honey, not at all sweet) that uses 1/2 cup cracked wheat (bulgur) and I’ve been making that. Really nice texture and bits of crunch from the bulgur that I like a lot.
I don’t buy bread at all any more. I make either the almost no-knead bread with beer and white vinegar or the bread machine honey wheat.
Hi msmolly,
I absolutely did remember you had the machine and I was just ribbing you a little to get some sour dough going in that thing. ((msmolly))
Adding different stone ground flours to my mixes has been a treat. Barley, basmati rice, buckwheat, rye, jasmine rice flour.
Like I said above though, a sour dough starter needs regular use to stay fresh and mature in flavor, hard to do with only one or two in a household. Niters.
I’ve been substituting 6 Tbs. lager beer and 1 tbsp. white vinegar for some of the water in the cracked wheat bread recipe. Seems to be working just fine, perhaps adds a bit of yeasty tang to the bread. I am not a beer drinker, had to buy a 6-pack just to have for the bread. I bought a slightly upscale brand, hoping someone visits who likes lager beer before it gets past its sell-by date.
LOL. I thought you probably remembered that bread machine! ;-)
My bread book says it can be kept in the fridge for a long time, and just fed and massaged a bit longer before it is used.
I have yet to use it, though. I want to get it “cooking” before warm weather comes, because I’m not sure how much I’ll be in the bread baking mood when it gets warm (and the bike beckons!).
I have a recipe (in one of my two bread books) for using spelt flour. I bought some just in case. I could make bread baking a big project around here…
Nighters to you, too! ;^D
Doers anyone have a recipe that combines sourdough and microalgae?
Algae bread – meerbrood:
Yowza! Meanwhile, the press keeps schtum about it down here in the Lower 48.
If they can do it, Alaska can do it — and the rest of the US certainly can do it. For the cost overruns on a couple of nuke plants, we’d already be well started on doing it.
Alaska Chinook doesn’t always come up with something that actually develops, but has a lot of anonymous sources. I have no idea which of our three national legislators is implied, but both Begich and Murkowski went out of their way to push for the season to commence. However, Begich has announced an investigation into Shell, only to ratchet the start date from March to May. Murkowksi is holding her breath until she turns blue over Sally Jewell at DOI.
Well. I thought everybody read ” The Population Bomb ” before going to college in 1969, too. Having spent my younger days on the lap of a man who had a degree in Economics, class o’ 36, set tax policy for a Midwestern state ( sitting board member until his death ) and knew a couple o’ guys who knew a couple o’guys: this place has been heading for the shitcan for over 2 decades. It’s pretty well cooked in the books. And, I’m not talking just Amerikeee. Do the math, my dear uncle would implore, and we can’t sustain more than four. Billion that is, as in people. And, that’s pushing it. Did everyone think Ehrlich was blowin’ smoke up their ass when he told all of us about maximum carrying capacity for THE GARDEN? My uncle was also a farmer of Clarion soil. In 1970 he and I measured out ” rods ” and hand counted full ears of corn. Without pesticides, insecticides and herbicides: 230 a bushel the old fashioned, organic way. Bet it’s doin’ the same yield today, modern corporate style. And, so it goes. There really is no mitigating mass starvation, environmental calamities and extinction, sorry. We been had. Hope you had a large tube of K-Y in your travel bag. Have a long, strange trip and thanks for flying United, folks.
Glad to see you’re positive enough to try sourdough, though yeast will survive, they always do.
I don’t mind admitting you’ve given me days of nightmares.
Thank you and keep digging.
The nightmares are already there. There is also hope, I hope….
Thanks for the post. Would the surge be a sudden, cataclysmic surge; or a surge in movement of the glacier that woould result in a three-meter rise in sea level over a period of time (like 100 years, which would be catastrophic enough)? Is the audio or video of the February conference available online?
ET our 10 acres is actually because we have four draft horses. Our food self sufficiency could be done on 2 acres. We purposely chose a small city in Montana, took a huge drop in income and live simply. With wonderful neighbors and friends – complete change from our previous life in large coastal cities. I am part of a worldwide FB driven community of grow-your-own, a movement that is growing rapidly as the awful truth of the future is dawning on more and more people.
The problem isn’t so much population size, it’s that the developed world has such a huge “footprint” ecologically — and that lots of people in places like China and India are joining the developed world.
Thwaites Glacier moves more rapidly than any other glacier that large on the planet:
I believe what Prof. Alley means is that the amount of ice melted, should Thwaite’s speed into the ocean where it melts rapidly increase, the water level globally would rise three meters. This would probably occur over something like a decade.
It is important to realize that he is speaking of just the melt from one very, very large, thick glacier, not to mention other Antarctic ice bodies, or ice from Greenland.
Free sourdough starter here.
Awesome, thank you for the link.
Thanks so much, darms, I’m going to give it a try. Have you used it?