
There's growing support for renaming Washington's football team.
This is an update to last Saturday’s entry on the Washington NFL team’s name. First, for the benefit of people who left the thread before the last comment was entered on Monday, as I note there the Washington Post selected five letters to the editor to publish that day on the subject, of which three supported ditching the current name for good reasons.
There are a few more letters on a possible name change today, mostly humorous (“the Washington Bureaucrats,” “the Drones”), but the real news is that columnist Sally Jenkins, who is the conscience of WaPo‘s sports section if anyone is, has advanced the momentum for a name change with a really trenchant piece.
It seems that as propaganda against changing the name the team’s website (to which no link will appear here since it’s offensive) has lately taken to listing high schools in the nation that also use the R-word as their team’s name — as if the mores out there in Middle America were definitive — and to interviewing their coaches on the kids’ supposed consciousness of the issues. To this Jenkins responds:
I’m willing to hazard that most 10th graders don’t realize a team calling itself [the R-word] might as well rename itself the Darkies, Guidos, or Slant Eyes. I’m pretty sure they are unaware that the term [R-word] dates to the settler era when hunters boasted about shooting down “damned government pets” and peddled Indian scalps as if they were animal pelts along with deerskins and bearskins.
She goes on to satirize the team owner’s appeal to “heritage” as a defense of the name, by noting the actual heritage: the owner who originally coined it was a racist anti-Semite. And there is more, including a choice remark from a participant at that recent symposium at the National Museum of the American Indian (cited in my previous post), and a suggestion that the U.S. Armed Forces get on the owner’s case by reminding him of the American Indians who have served.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for that last one, and I think ultimately the trademark lawsuit mentioned in the previous post may prove decisive. But read the article. My only criticism is that Jenkins should stop spelling out the R-word (or if it’s her editor that’s making her use it he should stop). There are newspapers in this country that have found ways to report on games involving inappropriately-named teams that sidestep mentioning the names, so it is possible.
A suggestion to commenters: wendydavis has persuaded me that it is too extreme to flag comments that spell out the R-word, a slippery slope leading to censorship (see her @ 17, 20, and 30 on the last post). Still, I wish you wouldn’t do it. Imo THE R-WORD IS JUST AS OFFENSIVE AS THE N-WORD.
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35 Comments

When I saw this post I’d thought it was a mistaken duplicate of your first one.
Re: the suggestion that the military pressure the (okay, okay, lol) Redsk*ns’ owner, I couldn’t disagree more. Given that:
The military was only too obliging in helping US Presidents in First American genocide, forced death marches, relocations to reservations ruled by White Men, then evicting NAs from treaty reservations when resources were found, etc. It would be hypocritical as hell for them to be involved, imo.
Parenthetically, I’ve never understood why at so many powwows, the American flag is so prominent, and so many veterans wear their uniforms, or speak of patriotism in terms of their past service. I do wonder if it might be because being warriors was so valued in the past in the same way that automobiles are akin to modern day ‘ponies’.
I could go on and on about reservation schools, white paternalism causing students to become ‘good Indians’ accepting those derogatory names for teams and mascots, but it would be pretty redundant. ;o)
You, or the others, did skip by another possibility for a new name:
THE HONKIES. (h/t: Richard Pryor) ;D
I think we’ve got a winner!!!
(Although I’m a fan of the Drones)
Well, given that Bruce Allen said it’s ludicrous that the team is considering changing its name, we could go with: The Ludacriseseses.
And, given that teams are usually named for beings of some sort er other, we could consider:
Washington Plutocrats
Washington Rabble (a nod to statehood for DeeCee)
Washington Vampire Squids
Washington Foggy Bottomists
Washington Stinks
Washington Pariahs
Washington FUs
Washington Phonies
Washington Revolving Doors
Washington Fahgeddibouddits
Well, you get the drift, jest… ;D
I guess Washington Assholes is a no-go as many would find the emblem on the helmet offensive.
Too bad. At least that would be a valid description of the pols that inhabit Washington DC.
LOL, not for nothing, but the Washington R….ins no longer pracice or play in Washington. Their practice facility is not far from my home (Loudoun County, VA) and they play their games in Maryland.
So both the first and last name of the team should be changed, IMO.
I should add that this is NOT true of the other Washington sprots teams. The Washington Nationals (MLB), Washington Capitals (NHL), and Washington Wizards (NBA) all play their games in Washington, DC.
The football team doesn’t practice or play their games in Washington, DC.
My alma mater, UMass-Amherst, changed the name of their athletic teams forty years ago from Redmen to Minutemen and Minutewomen. It’s time for Washington to do something similar. It doesn’t matter much what the new name would be, there are so many crazy names around. I favor Bandits, myself.
and @ 3.
Nice to hear from you, wd, as always, and sorry I’ve been internetless for the past several hours (a concert of new stuff by local composers, some of which was interesting, and then grocery shopping).
I thought that the title might possibly confuse people as soon as I saw it in the myFDL list: the “II” is not too prominent; still, it’s a day old now and I don’t think I’ll change it at this point.
Thanks for the video, which will have to wait as my streaming is not working too well at the moment. But the trouble with “the Honkies” (for you too, jest @ 2) is that the team is 90% or so African-American.
Your point about the military is well taken, it seems to me, although I can see why Sally Jenkins raised the possibility.
To save switching back and forth, let me also respond to your last response to me on your “Radical History” diary: (a) I thought Herbie Hancock’s take was pretty good, granted that he takes the Rhapsody in Blue more toward jazz than Gershwin probably intended. (b) As I told fatster, it gripes me that they never identify the clarinetist who plays the opening glissando. (It’s hard to do on any wind instrument except the trombone.)
and @ 5
There is some movement to bring them back to DC, I understand, but as it stands you are right.
But from everything I’ve heard about it, UM-Amherst is actually an intelligent place!
No, no; ‘honkies’ was more a jest (so to speak) as turn-about for Redsk*ns. And the video is an SNL job interview word-association test. Chevy and Pryor, in which they trot out every black/white nickname/slur. Purdy damned funny, imo.
Herbie’s playing was stellar, and the bits I mentioned were extra jazzy and didn’t quite fit was all. But then I take a lot of teasing around these parts for not being a jazz fan. And at least I learned on my post that I haven’t any right critique or hold an opinion if I can’t play the piano, lol.
Anyhoo, when I listened again this mornin’, all of the images were in a big city, maybe New York, and whoosh; the racing, the battles, the resolutions, everything…was vivid.
Humor; remember humor, EF Beall.
Humor …
I hope you agree that my comment @ 9 has a wee bit.
Whatever they call the team, they should call the Washington, DC, stadium “The Unlevel Playing Field.”
LOL; a wee bit. ;D
@ normanb: also ;D
Imagine the outcry over a team called the Blackskins, the Yellowskins or the Brownskins. Much is tolerated as tradition when it comes to American Indians. It is spring training and the Cleveland Indians logo features Chief Wahoo, a vile caricature that would not be accepted for a minute if it depicted another racial group. Look at it and imagine that smiling face with a different skin color.
Check out:
Take This Out of the Ballgame
http://newsvandal.com/2011/02/baseballs-easiest-call/
Thanks for the link, JPS; maybe I’m too focused on the happenings in my own city. Still, it IS the nation’s capital, so that its racism is a national issue.
Nah…take ‘em all on. I lived in DC twice. Worked in the media and hung around a lot of Skins fanatics. I went at ‘em. Contentious stuff.
BUT…if they can rename the Bullets because DC kept challenging for the title of Murder Capital of America…then this can be dealt with, too.
However, baseball season is starting and I really believe that Chief Wahoo is an absolute blight on the national pastime. It in insane that it remains on their caps, their uniforms, t shirts, etc. That cartoon face is like a Sambo or pickaninny from the Jim Crow South.
It was even more intelligent after I left.
Chief Wahoo is great. He’s the Laughing Buddha of mascots. And, if you’re an Indians fan, you need the Way of the Laughing Buddha to stay sane. I will ONLY wear Indians caps with Chief Wahoo upon them.
If you don’t like it, tough. This thread is the sort of politically correct, insignificant garbage that gives everyone to the left of Bob Dole a ridiculous name with most Americans.
OK, it’s a good point that football is over for now, and baseball is about to start. Is there a movement in Cleveland now (that video is from 2 years ago) against Chief Wahoo?
LOL, I guess.
No.
many in Cleveland believe using the Chief has cursed the Indians, like the goat for the Cubs. re: racism…apparently, opinions vary. i guarantee that you will be hard pressed to find American Indians who think Chief Wahoo is insignificant. all of my research on the topic has yielded a trove of anger and discontent. btw, i think MLB and the Indians know this is a problem, which is why they’ve been slowly introducing the Big C cap to the uniform. And i suggest you look at the evolution of the Chief. refining it is a tacit admission of the problem, but the problem remains. finally, if you think this is about right v. left, you’ve (sadly) politicized right v. wrong.
The Curse of Chief Wahoo: Are we paying the price for embracing Americas last acceptable racist symbol?
http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/the-curse-of-chief-wahoo/Content?oid=2954423
and
Braves shelve controversial logo
http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2013/story/_/id/8937328/atlanta-braves-shelve-cap-controversial-logo
Yeah; First Americans really love that version of a laughing Buudha.
Turns out they have for a long time, Barbarian.
PC to you, mebbe, but not to the many Native Americans who find the image vile, or the Braves’ assholish chop and faux Native chant…sick as shit.
Nice to hear from you again, OB; it must be difficult to contribute, given that what we are doing in this thread appears to pain you.
Since what I said in response to your similar comment in the last thread does not seem to have moved you, let me just paraphrase what one Indian said at the recent symposium, according to Sally Jenkins’s article: “I challenge [you] to attend the next meeting of the National Congress of American Indians and try using that word to people’s faces.” And I don’t think a charge that such attendees are only being “politically correct” is going to help you much.
OK, maybe, just maybe, we are now past the Ohio Barbarian distraction; still, you haven’t refuted his denial of a movement @ 21.
Your two links are both a year old, and I saw one Atlanta playoff game last fall when they were still using the infamous “chop.” But the thing about the DC situation, as I have been trying to demonstrate in these two posts, is that there IS a live movement to change the name (although the fact that the football season is over may indeed put a damper on it). There is a lot of crabbing at FDL about how bad things are, but I am most interested in areas where people are doing something about it. I am certainly behind any such situation in Cleveland too if there is one.
my story is from 2011. the Cleveland Curse story is from last year. and I suspect that it will pop up again as the season opener gets closer. it does every year. see my point to OB re: Cleveland already slowly phasing in a Big C hat. I believe I put a pic of that in my piece from 2011. each year they use that logo a little bit more. they know they have to drop it. the Atlanta story is from this month. they tried to use a screaming Indian logo, but the backlash was too much and they relented. I think that is the point. these logos and names are just losing traction over time. it feeds the movements, and the movements feed the change. i know AIM (American Indian Movement) regularly shows up at Progressive Field to protest. I also know that each year it comes up in Cleveland, on ESPN and sports blogs. just gotta push it to a tipping point by BRINGING IT UP! that’s why i wrote what i did, and why Sally Jenkins did what she did. i think many who are uncomfortable w/ Wahoo in Cleveland might be afraid of the backlash, as evidenced by OB. let us make it safer to say out loud what many may be thinking.
I don’t believe in curses. I do believe in bad management, poor decision-making, and poor coaching when it comes to sports teams.
Right vs. wrong. Please. People in Cleveland have far bigger fish to fry, such as repairing potholes, than the mascot of a sports franchise. For that matter, people in Washington, home of the greatest wealth-disparity in the country, do as well.
IMO, this is simply not an important issue. At all. It’s a waste of time. Just another distraction from things that are actually important. And I’m pretty sure most American Indians agree with me here. Offer them the choice between a decent standard of living and getting rid of Chief Wahoo or renaming the Redskins, and they would be idiots to choose the latter.
I don’t think they’re idiots.
If the mascots of sports teams is the largest concern of the National Congress of American Indians, then they are fools. Somehow, I don’t think that is the case.
That’s it. Good night.
You pretend there are only two choices; that’s crazy, imo. If Native Americans are to gain any power/influence, they need first: respect, then for us to understand completely that they *are* are brothers and sisters in every way. They knew first the hideous nature of resource extraction (uranium especially), the dumping of nuclear waste, broken promises and treaties, and capitalism.
Sorry that you’re so wedded to the idea that this is foolish, although I believe that the ‘curses’ idea is silly. Do you also think that struggles I went through to get our county schools to stop teaching history as ‘settlers v. murdering Redskins’ was politically correct?
“When the earth is dying there shall arise a new tribe of all colours and all creeds. This tribe shall be called The Warriors of the Rainbow and it will put its faith in actions not words.”
~ Hopi prophecy
They’re right, imo. We are they. Period.
OK, that’s a good answer, JPS. But how can we “make it safer” in view of the backlash?
I guess I was overly optimistic in thinking the OB distraction was over, but he has now said good night @ 29. If that was a false goodbye, if he persists in remaining with a thread that irritates him so much, I think I’ll leave it to wd to respond: I’ve said all I can.
In passing, I again invite people to read the “Coyote story” I wrote in honor of Native Americans several years ago, here.
Looks interesting. Jacques *and* Metacoyote? ;D Too long to read now, but I snagged the link. Nah, the Barbarian wants to keep his take; so it goes…
Good morning, wd (if indeed you are checking back in today).
I believe I was thinking that Coyote has to become a meta-presence in order to compete, since Derrida is a meta-critic.
About UMass Amherst, mentioned above for dropping something that might be perceived as Racist:
All over UMass and its property, and its official communications, is emblazoned the Great Seal of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, which is certainly one of the most Racist images used by a state as its “Great” Seal.
Our state symbol, as shown on the state flag, actually shows a noble native, and above his head is a sword in the hand of a White man’s arm, about to smite the native with the sword.
Actually, nb, upon looking it up it seems ambiguous to me until you notice that the motto that goes with it speaks of seeking “placidam quietem,” but that certainly clinches the deal. Quite a contrast from all those images we get around Thanksgiving time of the Pilgrims and the Indians sitting down to break bread together.
Thanks for the correction.