15 Responses to 16 Deaths Per Day

1. iremember54 November 10th, 2009 at 10:20 am «

   No one seems to notice that our government really cares little how many die, for what ever the reason.

   They made a huge deal on 911, then killed twice as many of our people in the wars claimed to be revenge for the attack, without getting the guys responsible. God Knows how many people in those other countries that have died.

   We see they don’t care about the people who die over healthcare, or the workplace injuries, and crime and auto deaths are chucked up to they just happen.

   People are expendable if it costs a dollar to protect them.

   Money always wins over lives.
• bobjonez November 10th, 2009 at 12:10 pm «

  So sad, and yet so true.

  I’ve seen a statistic on various websites over the past year showing that the ‘income gap’ between the ‘haves’ and ‘have-nots’ is greater now than at any time since the great depression. What about the ‘conscience gap’ between regular every-day Americans and their elected representatives? Seems that gap is getting wider and wider as well. Is it too far gone?
• iremember54 November 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm «

  It’s to far gone if the people continue to sit on their butts and let come what may come.

  We are over three hundred million people living under the rule of 535, only because we allow it.

  To many believe our broken system of government actually works.
2. DavidByron November 10th, 2009 at 1:21 pm «

   It’s men dying and that’s why nobody cares. I bet neither the article nor the video bothered to mention it either. In fact the article seemed to try and essentially lie by looking at the case of a woman who died, to give the impression of parity.

   A quick Google gives these figures:
   Canada 97% of fatalities men
   US 93% of fatalities men

   If those numbers were reversed feminists would be making a huge issue of the SEXISM. In a sense of course feminists do make an issue of the sexism by saying that it is sexist against women when the men who take on these killer jobs get paid a little bit more than women who can afford to take safer work.
• dakine01 November 10th, 2009 at 1:37 pm «

  Of course, by law, women are barred from serving in combat units (although that is being eroded by the Iraq/Afghanistan occupations), so that would tend to skew the numbers somewhat.

  One of those inconvenient facts you might have also mentioned.
• DavidByron November 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pm «

  No I don’t think those numbers include military. Women are not barred from joining the military. Men however (and only men) can be forced to join up and only men are forced to sign on with the selective service.

  I’m talking about men dying and you compare it with what? Women allegedly (but not actually– as you yourself admit) not being allowed to go kill people? The effect of blocking women to the extent it happens is to force men into those more dangerous jobs. In other words the sexism is against men not women. This is congress protecting women. That’s why men die more and why men die on average years younger than women do — our society values women over men and protects women’s lives at the expense of endangering men’s lives.

  If women were dying far more often than men feminists would be outraged by the sexism. If women were dying on average years sooner than men feminists would call it what it is — discrimination.
• dakine01 November 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm «

  So when was the draft reinstated that “forces men to sign up?” All I’m aware of (though it is a biggie) is the economic conditions that have people joining (including surprisingly in your eyes I’m sure) some who have joined so that they can receive health care coverage for their ill wives.
• DavidByron November 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm «

  Excuse me I thought you were male in which case you would know since it’s the law for men.
• dakine01 November 10th, 2009 at 2:15 pm «

  I believe the Selective Service laws do require men to register for a non-existent draft although I’ve not heard of any prosecutions for failure to do so since the end of the draft in the early ’70s.

  But I’m sure you missed the stories where women have in fact asked to be added to the law requiring registration (yes, it happened and they were turned down) because that would seriously destroy a good meme for you wouldn’t it?
• DavidByron November 10th, 2009 at 2:42 pm «

  You can’t volunteer to be forced to do something.
  Good grief.

  You are unaware of the repercussions of a failure to report for SS because of your gender privileges. There are many.

  I don’t need “good stories” because men are actually a discriminated against minority group. You feminists need “good stories” because you have no actual issues.

  I would very much prefer it if there were no “good stories” for anyone of either sex or of any other sort of minority status. And might I add what a horrible and callous thing to say.

  This diary points to an injustice and I pointed out that the injustice, as with many in America, and as with all that involve gender, was an injustice against men. You just couldn’t stand it could you? You couldn’t contest the facts but you wanted to somehow minimize the facts. Somehow make the deaths of men unimportant. Somehow overshadow them.

  Well how about this? 24,000 people a day die of hunger. Most are not Americans. 16 a day is much smaller of course. This is hardly the biggest injustice in the world. All I am pointing out is that it is a men’s rights issue and I feel the need to do that precisely because, people like you so often seek to hide that sort of fact. If there was any interest in gender equality among progressives I wouldn’t need to point this out.
• dakine01 November 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm «

  For the record, I am a white male veteran in my fifties and will fight the beliefs someone actually allows you to espouse here with every breath until I die.
• DavidByron November 10th, 2009 at 2:59 pm «

  So you hate free speech as well as men.
  Quite the liberal aren’t you.
• dakine01 November 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pm «

  What hate free speech?

  You have an absolute right to say what you want. In fact you can go start your own blog and shout your mysogynistic BS for all the world to hear. I’ll just be shouting right there beside you, doing my best to refute that same gibberish even as you shout it out.

  Disagreement with you is not infringing on your rights of speech nor is it hate. It is disagreeing. Too bad you don’t understand that not everything is about you nor is disagreement attacking anything at all about you.
3. DavidByron November 10th, 2009 at 2:44 pm «

   Some of my comments especially on gender are being censored (deleted) by the moderator so I won’t continue this “debate” until I have some assurance that it isn’t being rigged secretly by the mods.
4. newtonusr November 10th, 2009 at 4:08 pm «

   When you get into discussions with people who are here to laughably defend the ultimate strawman – the downtrodden male, you have to expect to get shit on your slacks.