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Update: Olbermann’s MSNBC Exit Was Weeks in the Making. The New York Times reports the two sides have been working for some time on an agreement that only came together Friday evening. TMZ made similar claims, as I noted in comments earlier. So what kind of game is he playing on Facebook?
It’s looking more and more like Keith Olbermann was forced out, a lot of speculation out there but most telling is the Bring Keith Olbermann Back Facebook page Keith himself set up where he describes himself thusly:
Mr. Olbermann is the voice for millions of Americans around this country with common sense values and ideas. He must be restored to the airwaves at once.
And also his comments on his Facebook page.
His departure was so abrupt that MSNBC still ran an ad touting his program as part of their new “Lean Forward” campaign a half hour after he said this was his last show. He was noticeably missing from a big NBC News advertising luncheon earlier in the day, last straw perhaps?
Yesterday, NBC News hosted a lunch for advertisers at New York’s Gotham Hall attended by NBC News and MSNBC anchors and employees. Olbermann was conspicuously absent. Comcast’s Steve Burke was seated at the same table as Meet the Press host David Gregory and NBC News president Steve Capus. Today’s Matt Lauer was master of ceremonies for an NBC News-themed trivia game dubbed “Did you know?” MSNBC personalities Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews and Lawrence O’Donnell – all in attendance – were all subjects of trivia questions.
All in all, he went relatively quietly, perhaps to stay in good graces for rehire or to be more appealing to a new employer. After the show, he went out to dinner with a few friends and/or colleagues at The Gramercy Tavern, “At least I had one nice meal since it happened.” (I should say so, that is quite the menu.)
But there is more to this story, as we shall see.
addendum: Salon has two good articles up, the first gives a rundown of his career, and the second has videos of “his greatest hits” — including the Rumsfeld scalding I personally enjoyed and remembered — and posted here.
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What do you think happened?
Ell – Olbermann didn’t set up that FB page. The Admin for that group is Adam Johnson Smith.
You know what’s weird? He says he set up that page; but he’s not an admin and not a member of that group!
How’d he do that? That’s a pretty neat FB trick.
beats me!
Not that I know much of anything about FB or how to get around the rules…Adam Johnson Smith sounds kinda like a made up everyman, no? I suppose the famous probably invest more time and energy than the average person in finding anonymity.
Though leaning left, Olbermann was not a reliable mouthpiece for the corporate oligarchy which rules this country, unlike the trojan-horse-liberal MSNBC hosts who front for the DNC.
During the insurance reform debate last spring Olbermann remained steadfast in support of at least a public option while maintaining his opposition to Obama’s fake health reform. At the same time Maddow, Schultz, O’donnell and Matthews said they supported the public option(or even single-payer), but once Obama and the DNC gave them their marching orders to support the Administration regardless, they all fell into line even ridiculing and trying to browbeat any progressive who still supported the public option and opposed the Obama “health” reform. The same goes for the last month’s tax cut compromise: Olbermann ripped Obama for the tax cut deal while the gutless pretend liberals Maddow, Schultz, O’donnell again opposed the tax cuts for the rich until they were told at one of the White House luncheons for the pliable “liberal” media to support their administration/corporate paymasters.
This is why Olbermann was canned 4 days before he would anchor the MSNBC analysis of the Obama SOTU. Even though the firing also fits neatly into Comcasts conservative monopolistic leanings I think the firing may have been more about the Corporate-Democratic arm of the single-party Corporate-Republican/Democrats wanting to silence any effective criticism while simultaneously installing their most loyal stooge, Lawrence O’donnell into the prime time 8p.m. slot.
The Democratic Party will never ever support real progressives and will do their best eliminate any real liberal/progressive voices like Keith Olbermann.
Mayhaps Keith will start a radio program syndicated to public and community radio stations. They could air the show just after Democracy Now!.
Exactly! Front for the DNC. Whose replacing Olbermann-that hairball O’Donnell-good God. He will tout Obama quite well for 2012. There will be no dissent.
I hope he’ll turn to the blogs. He’s a pretty good writer.
If I know the corp world, KO got a gigantic payoff in exchange for a long noncompete clause & vow of silence. So we’ll never know what went on & it will take years for him to return to airwaves.
Or, team up with Jon Stewart…I think they were be a great pair.
When has a “consolidation of power” benefited America?
Thanks for the update, Ellie.
Whether KO set up the page himself, if he’s commenting on it, he at least approves.
I think it’s good for us to continuing to call our comments speculation, until the truth is out. I get skeptical when folks act like they know the truth about these sorts of things.
Carry on, pups.
This is a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty.
I like that idea. And, he can stay in his warm and fuzzies.
This was inevitable.Dont watch cable “news” or opinion programming unless its yor job. Join an anti capitalist organiztion.
Actually, the NYT reported that NBC executives said he was forced off network TV for “an extended period of time”, which since he had two years left on his contract probably means two years at least.
But they left radio wide open.
A lot will depend on whether KO wants to forego a millionaire’s lifestyle in his next gig, but I think he should hang for a sheep instead of a lamb and just go ahead and hook up with Amy Goodman and/or Laura Flanders, if he could pack away his ego sufficiently to do so.
This thesis fits the facts. “Falling in line”, however, may have been strategic with healthcare and tax deal. Things could have been worse, no healthcare, and no unemployment insurance.
KO will continue to tweet. I’ll follow it. 17 hours passed so far.
your exactly correct, except! the internet@! LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/22/keith-olbermann-msnbc-countdown-comcast-cable-news-network-nbc-universal-secret-deal/
well there goes another nail in the coffin of liberal and progressive voices in the LSM!! a chill has been put on ed schultz and rachel maddow.. she wouldn’t say anything re KO on bill maher’s show last night…
Will Rachel, Ed etc leave the network in support of KO a blue flu or will they stay?
Comcast can pick them off much more easily one by one and with non compete clauses keep them off tv for years which is what I suspect Comcast wants.
There is more strength if we stand on principles together than if we LET the GOP take us down one by one.
The Dems MSM talks about us not taking to the streets lets see if our supposed Leaders are willing to take that advice themselves and Lead.
In other words are they just paid talking heads or real progressives?
It is not wholly unrelated to note that Spencer Ackerman has given up his FDL affiliation because…the congressional press galeries are wary of giving me permanen credentials while I am affiliated here….and because FDL can’t interfere with his day job at Wired.
So now we know who gets to speak and who gets to sit down and shut up. And if we have any doubt about how far these people will go, just think about where Bradley Manning is now and what is happening to him.
After seeing that menu, I don’t think all that bad for him.
Imagine the power boost the Left would get if all MSNBC’s talent left. In Chicago when Rupert Murdoch bought the Chicago SunTimes Dear Abby and Mike Ryoko plus was I think Siskel or Ebert the famous movie review guys all walked to the Chicago Tribune rather than work for Rupert Murdoch.
MSNBC can’t find replacements for all of them and would take a huge ratings hit.
Also imagine just what the ratings would be if NBC caved in and they all got back on air with better contracts?
*I feel all that bad for him.
Is Obama still looking for a Press Secretary? ;]
What Gay whores can be in the WH Press Corps reporting for an almost non existent news service of some kind but FDL is where Congress draws the line?
On his Wednesday night show KO called LIEberman a “delusional liar.” Two nights later he announces it will be his last. Coincidence?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/20/keith-olbermann-on-lieberman_n_811450.html?ir=Politics
Yeah, progressives aren’t Very Serious People. We are always pushed aside.
But they’ve really rammed a stick into the hornets’ nest with this KO sacking.
Two days after the NBC/Comcast merger is approved by the FCC, and the same day that the Obama reelection office is set up, Olbermann is forced out.
Quid pro quo?
it doesn’t seem as if the prog groups or blogs have much to say now.. is it b/c it was done late friday night to minimize protests? i think rachel may be next…
The Free Market at Work?
Countdown was the highest rated MSNBC show bringing the Ad $$.
Cutting off their nose to spite their faces?
When the Comcast/NBC merger is completed Ed Shultz will be gone within 4 weeks and Rachel Maddow within 6 months. Capitalism is about concentrations not dispersal.
RE: the menu – that’s not terribly upscale. There are “better” restaurants in my little corner of NW Indiana that are pricier.
The A wholes never lead but have to be forced to follow.
Exactly. Beats me too.
Excellent analysis. I quite agree. It is the so-called “Democratic” arm of our nation’s Oligarchic-corporatist party that most likely pushed for KO to be sacked. Whyever would the so-called “Republican” arm of the one-party care? Constituents who self-identify as “Republican” are in no way influenced by or care about KO, but “Democratic” voters do watch KO and can be influenced by him. Do the math.
I know nothing about this, but it stinks to high heaven that yet another mostly leftwing voice is pushed (at least from the corporate-owned right wing media) “off stage,” must like Phil Donahue in the early 2000′s.
The Oligarchs are so wealthy that they really don’t give a stuff about making money anymore, given that KO was their headliner with the largest viewership and high ratings. No, it’s very clear that their fascist intention is to foist their rightwing views and talking points from every corporate-owned media outlet, no matter what the cost.
“Replacing” KO with NeoCon mysogynistic sexist HACK Lawrence O’Donnell?? Please! What. a. travesty.
Exactly. I read that about Ackerman, too, which really sucks. Talk about losing First Amendment rights. The Tea Party has no idea what that means, but over here on the “left” side of the street, it’s blindingly obvious to us… and it happens with too much frequency. Feeling very very chilled right now.
my thoughts as well ;o)
It’s a nice dream, but it’ll never happen. It’s clear that all those talking heads are bought off by the PTB, imo.
Quite simply: they don’t need the stinking money. The Oligarchs clearly only care about their propoganda and Orwellian speak being pumped out on their corporate-owned rightwing media outlets.
It’s like Rupert Murdoch with Glenn Beck – they’ve lost nearly all their corporate sponsors, but you don’t see Beck getting canned, do you? Not at all. Beck is called a “loss leader,” and he’s going nowhere, other than to collect another giant raise, bc Beck is their number one propogranda pusher.
Money has nothing to do with any of this. It’s about power, control, domination and propoganda. Who’s the fascist now?
Probably. Not an unlikely scenario.
The ruling elites think that they will get *more* money by preventing progressives from having a voice than by the pittance they make from KO on the air. My opinion.
It’s almost as if the Republicans have now invaded MSNBC, beginning their expulsion of liberal talk. There is precious little talk radio and a shrinking TV presence for the views of liberals.
Radio, TV, a syndicated column (at least once per week). I’ll take any combination, or all of the above to keep his voice active out there.
But LIEberman is a liar, so what was the problem. Oh, yeah, comcast.
the rightwing fundies are ecstatic that KO has been ousted… another notch in their ideologic gunbelt
That Lieberman is Jewish is why I believe Reid and Obama both kow towed to this spiteful arrogant little rat when truly great Dems like Russ Feingold were treated badly.
I’m sorry to say this, and I do it as respectfully as I can, that there is one thing you can never do in public without suffering serious consequences – and that is to say anything derogatory about anyone or anything of Jewish descent.
What? Are there no bad and/or bigoted Jews in this country??
But when you can repeatedly bash, beat, insult and deface anyone or thing connected to Blacks, Hispanics, gays, females or Muslims until you’re blue in the face, and every network and tv show does just that in some way, with hardly a peep of descent the Jewish community better be aware of how the coddling of each other has become so detrimental to others and of how blatantly obvious that fact has become to the public.
The corporate war against free thought has been raging hotter and hotter for so many years now, and as corporate power increases, we see our own power decrease. We are becoming less able to fight the good fight, because we don’t have the means any more.
I see the past few years as a brutal onslaught by power-hungry evildoers — I just can’t see them another way.
But I fail to see how TPTB can not recognize the consequences of their actions. If they are smart people, hell even if they’re just backstabbers who aren’t smart at all, they must have some ability to make decisions. So assuming that TPTB have some ability for cognitive reasoning, the question is not “what are they doing?” but “why are they doing it?”
But we already know what TPTB are doing – they’re subjugating a population. It’s the standard M.O. for tyranny. This time around, the population being subjugated is us (and the whole globe, really).
The answer to “why” the subjugation is occurring is the frightening thing to me. There are only a few answers to that question. They’re all obvious, all bleak, and none have good endings.
I find myself waffling between despair and rage and hate and tiny glimmers of hope.
History seems to show that these cycles of tyranny are not lasting as long each time they occur. That give me a tiny glimmer of hope. I may even live to see the end of this cycle of tyrrany!
But History never saw the Internet. It’s almost completely a tool for propaganda, surveillance, and subjugation. Ultimately, I expect our ability to freely communicate via the Internet will be cut off. With dissemination of information almost completely controlled, we will have very limited ability to even know the truth, let alone organize or fight.
It may be that our only option is to hunker down, to form coops with like-minded individuals, to try to extricate ourselves from “the system” as much as possible, to get off the grid as much as we can, to become as self-sufficient as we can. Basically, we may have no choice but to return to a pioneer-like life, and try to protect our selves and our resources from the marauders and armies that demand them.
Have you visited the dark side to see what they’re saying or is that conjecture? I’d go myself, but I don’t have patience for the lack of language skills over there.
I’m also guessing there was a pretty significant buyout, along with serious confidentiality and/or non-compete clauses. (“Want the check? The sign here, here and here…”) I’m hoping he was savvy enough on the front end to leave himself some sort of an out in the event of such an outcome. I can’t imagine he would allow himself to get sucker-punched into dealing this kind of leverage away. Time will tell…
Oh, and I almost forgot:
Fuck Phil Griffin, and the rest of the NBC and Comcast Brass. Lowlife scumbag pieces of shit… (To state it as nicely as I am able. I hope I’ve made the Mods proud by exhibiting such restraint.)
Feingold is Jewish.
Interesting that I didn’t find mention on DailyKos. Maybe Markos will have a special comment?
ohhh? i was just on my way to read DK to see if KO has written anything there..
“Excellent analysis. I quite agree.”
Me, too.
Can’t have Keith in a primetime position to push back against Obama’s plan to gut SS.
I disagree. Ed might be gone, but more likely he’ll just turn into a muted shill. Now that DADT is a done deal, Rachel will definitely sell the farm for her fat paycheck. Probably renegotiate to get an even bigger salary since she’ll now be the heir-apparent “signature” talent. (Assuming LoDo tanks, which could lead to a time-slot swap between LoDo and Rachel.)
TMZ
Probably the non-compete period is the time remaining on his contract.
Is a gay whore an especially loathsome kind of whore?
In the late 60s, the outrage over Vietnam was hitting a high. Nixon and the Republicans were “taking it on the chin” for their policies. Dissent was rampant by the young…and growing.
In May of 1970 at Kent State, Republican Governor Rhodes ordered the National Guard on to the campus to quell the protest. 4 people died, 9 were injured. But the upshot was the student unrest came to a halt across America.
Today’s “establishment” is not the protesting voices of the past, rather the corporate ones who want to decide the fate of others. When some like Olbermann call the corporations out for the criminals they are, corporations, much to the relief of the Right Wing and probably this Administration, have no choice but to silence their critics.
Eliminating any venue of rebuttle to Right Wing/Corporate rhetoric is their way of advancing their agenda. Firing the “top media liberal” is intended to bring the rest into line much as Rhodes did in 1970.
We’ll see if the left capitulates as the students (who ironically are now running the country) did.
I wonder if it would be the full two years, tho…
But I wouldn’t be surprised if this is how it went down
Yes, Russ Feingold is Jewish, but he is not a rabid, racist, warmongering Zionist like LIEberman.
Let’s not confuse Judism with Zionism. While Zionism is a nationalistic, Jewish movement, it is primarily secular, not religious. Joe Biden has stated he is a Zionist.
I Think This Spells It Out For Us.
N Here’s What I Think, That I Just Posted.
The ramifications of this firing, and make no mistake, his ass was FIRED by Comcast . . . . are gonna be huge.
Short story . . . biggest god damned muzzle on dissent ever, so far, with more and worse to come.
Thanks for keeping the story alive Elliott . . . bless ya.
And I doubt he would refer to himself in the third person, and in such glowing terms.
His contract called for $30 millioin to go . . . what he was paid is still not detailed . . . but Comcast HAD to pay him off, and threaten him likely with the stuff of falling airplanes, to hush him up. If Comcast didn’t threaten him, then someone else did . . .
You might have a GREAT point that I was ignoring . . . Olbie very well might not come back for many years, if ever.
Nice posit eCAHN . . . very sharp n astute . . . thanks.
Pathetic
“. . . forced to follow.”
Perhaps, forced to swallow?
*SMILESSWEETLY*
I remember when he stopped doing his count of the days since Bush declared mission accomplished. It coincided with getting rid of the worst person award. At the same time he started a new count at the beginning of the show – the count of the days until the next Presidential election.
Y Snap D, that’s a great insight, thanks. My opinion, now, too . . . . n frankly, I don’t think the money matters one whit . . . to them.
They want the power and control over the masses, that alone is worth any price to pay . . . it’s how evil rolls.
Feingold is a great Progressive Jew who honestly supports and defends democracy for all through word and deed.
While Lieberman is a lying con-artist who uses his religion and power as a shield for self gratification. Which means he can (and is) easily bought by anyone if something’s in it for him.
Rachels commitment to self interest far out weighs her progressive principles. She sided with, and even offered an apologia when the rules were selectively applied to him and he was suspended a few months back. Maddow is a cheerleader for empire, and will let her so-called friends sink like a rock, rather than go out on a limb. No sweat off her back. She’s moved into positon number 1 amongst the liberal ferengi now.
Marc Cuban has HDNet 1080ii that broadcasts on DirectTV. Dan Rather is there, I think that Al Jazeera is also available there. I think he should unleash the kraken within and cover real world news and foreign policy.
“liberal ferengi”
That’s a great phrase. Did you invent it? I hope it becomes the corollary to the “Veal Pen” that describe so called liberal activists while your phrase describes so called liberal news folk.
But I disagree that Rachel has moved into position no. 1. That’s clearly LoDo
Right. K.O. cited Howard Beal, but you know in Network they kept Beal on the air because his ratings went back up.
This is not Network. K.O.’s ratings were the highest on MSNBC. It’s clearly political censorship.
This is a great opportunity. In a previous comment in jeffroby’s diary about Dumping Obama, I said:
“If we are going to do this we need to consider the ’92 election. Although Pat Buchanan had been in government, most people only knew him as a TV pundit. It was that platform that gave him the ability to challenge Bush Sr. from the Right.
“I seriously doubt any famous Democratic progressive politician will be willing to destroy his or her place in the party by running against a sitting Democratic President.
“I don’t know if there are any progressive parallels to Buchanan. As I look at the list, focusing on those who aren’t politicians, it seems to me either they aren’t really Progressives but the straddlers who want to be on both sides of the divide of team Obama and team Progressive or they aren’t famous enough already.
But if we do this it’s going to have to be someone who can see their future career as not tied to the Democratic Party.”
Now things have changed. Olbermann is the perfect person to challenge Obama in the primaries.
How do we get a draft Olbermann campaign going?
“That Lieberman is Jewish is why I believe Reid and Obama both kow towed to this spiteful arrogant little rat when truly great Dems like Russ Feingold were treated badly.”
I agree Russ Feingold was a damn good senator. He, also, is Jewish. So insulting a Jewish senator probably is not why Olbermann was fired.
“the liberal ferengi”
I concur with Libby — great phrase. And your assessment of Rachel’s descent into full-on sellout status is right on.
Good analysis and situational awareness.
I, too, suggested on another KO thread that he might be our primary challenger in waiting.
Olbermann/Warren 2012? (With Warren’s portfolio as VP to be jobs and cleaning up the financial mess?)
Any way that we could marry an Olberman candidacy to JeffRoby’s progressive third party?
Keith’s firing demonstrates a profound act of cowardice on the part of Comcast.
Keith reminded us every day that it is vital that we all learn to stand up and speak truth to power. To demand that those in high places be held accountable for their actions.
Comcast is breathing its last as an aging artifact of rusting and soon to be abandoned technology and bankrupt corporate-fascist ideology. Desperate to try and hang on to what is fast slipping away.
Keith on the other hand will be remembered as a principled voice for Progressive causes. A symbol of what is best in all of us. And he will be back and be these corporate fascist’s worst nightmare.
Hang in there Keith!
Teehee. He probably has extremely high negatives, but i wouldn’t mind *considering* him.
PETITION: I STAND WITH KEITH
http://act.boldprogressives.org/sign/americablog_keith/?source=americablog
Well, I’m sure not going to turn in to Larry condescendingly telling the left to STFU from now to till the 2012 election.
That would be TUNE in. I’m most definitely not going to TURN in to Larry!! That would make me a corporate centrist toady.
If Keith didn’t set up that FaceBook page… I’m very curious why Elliot says he did(?)
If it’s just speculation of Elliot’s part, he/she should say so rather than intimate what amounts to commenting/incriminating about Keith’s ego.
Olbermann and I do not live in the same world. Mine is certainly a lot quieter… and I can only imagine what it’s like being in that kind of a spotlight… but whether he is an egotistical ass who sets up his own self-touting FaceBook page or not, he has done some pretty damned great stuff for Progressives and all Americans alike, thoughtful or otherwise… and I, personally, thank Keith for so much.
So… what are the actual Facts here? Does Elliot know for sure that Keith set up the FB page… or is this just some kind of passive aggressive character assassination?
… of a sham…
This has got to be a red herring. No one has to like Joe Lieberman, and we know that few do, but his religion and his respect for Israel are not germaine in a discussion regarding Keith being let go by MSNBC. There is no reason to suppose that Keith mentioning that Lieberman deserved the shellacking that he received Wed with his being let go on Friday. Until we KNOW why he was let go, there is no reason for anyone to imply that it was a consequence of the other.
Anti-Semitism is rift in this nation, we all need to calm down and remember that human beings are important, no matter the religion or the color or the age or the gender. WE ALL ARE IMPORTANT. Write it 100 times on the chalkboard so that you don’t forget it.
There’s some value in your analogy, but I recall history differently. It was in the Fall of 1969 that the Kent State killings occurred, and I remember attending quite a few anti-Viet Nam War demos for the next 4 years; some were very well attended and some, not so much. Attended several rather large rallies in Wash DC after Kent State, and many included lots of typical middle class families, including people who brought their young kids.
So I don’t think that the Kent State shootings “accomplished” quite what you indicate, but it was *certainly* a chilling moment, and one that many remember with pain.
However, there is some elements of your analogy that are apt in terms of the aging dinosaur ComCast attempting to brutally silence Mr. Olbermann’s voice. It will remain to be seen how things evolve from here. From my perspective, I hope that the protests are heard loud and long over this… it’s one thing that can be done, at least. We shall see.
What a dream-team either one of those link-ups would be. I think that he could put aside his ego to work with either Amy or Laura – both really intelligent people. That is what Keith respests, “Intelligence.” Of course, it might be more difficult for him to give up his life-style. He would be finding out what many of us know the answer to the question “How Much is Enough?”
One can do pretty well on not a lot if one is connected to the people one admires and loves. His sister and her family do just that with Keith so he is connected in a good way with them.
May 4, 1970 is not in the Fall
Good that you clarified that!! *g*
I, too, cannot bear Mr. Condescendingly Nauseatingly Suck-Up to the rightwing corporatist Powers that Be. Spare me any nonsense about what a “progressive” or “leftie” that LoDo is. He’s a sexist dolt, who has precious little charisma and a monotonous delivery.
That said, it’s probably the *plan* of ComCast to *inflict* LoDo on progressives so that we’ll run far far far away from him… and then ComCast can shut down any attempt at “liberal” programming…
Sorry, my mistake, but I was close… I must’ve inhaled….
“almost as if” ??? It IS what’s happened. The traditional media outlets are all owned by giant corporations now, and they’re pretty all very very rightwing. Have no interest in provided anything approaching a “fair and balanced” approach to news casting. That’s, like, so mid-20th Century, doncha know??
Rightwing propoganda is all the rage now… whether we like it or not.
Larry and Chris are useful to the powers that be. They’re never happier than when they’re telling the left to shut up.
Right. And Obama just made the “trade” appointing Imelt.
When I checked on HuffPo rather early in the evening last night, there were over 10,000 comments to the story.
I’ve NEVER seen a response that big.
[Haven't checked again, 'cause I don't want to give them the traffic,]
me either
So they worked hard to make sure he would be quiet for a while and they got rid of him from their network- he is such a threat to the powers.
I think they deserve payback. And we deserve a leader with intelligence, humanity and guts.
Keith Olberman for PRESIDENT! Keith Olberman for PRESIDENT!
We have a path and a leader to challenge the poseur.
Lieberman is not a Semite. He is white. Semites are Sephardic, not Ashkanazi, and are darker skinned.
Don’t believe the ADL’s mind-control nonsense. And remember, the JDL is a terrorist organization.
Glad to see that Maddow is no longer getting an automatic “pass” every time she grades out as a “centrist” wannabe.
“I’ll be Dem for the rest of my life but right now in my life time this looks to be the worst times for the Dems. The GOP is bagging corporate money for 2012 and public opinion doesn’t favor the far left views on much. When the right can buy up TV stations just to silence the left big trouble is coming if not aready here.
The Nov election was a call to dinner for Dems and no one showed up.Something has to change soon or the radical right will be picking over Dem bones.”
What’s up with the ‘Dump Obama’ party, anyway?
BTW, there are currently about 40 existing third Party parties. What is it that distinguishes this one from some of the other left leaning ones on the linked list? They seem to all be calcified prisoners of their narrow scopes, and hard lines in the sand. We don’t need anymore parties, we need a movement organized around current threats and commonsense trans partisan solutions that could tap the imagination of the broadest possible swath of the american public. The 90 odd % who are getting screwed by the Wall Street oligarchy.
http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm
Hey, Mom, I looked for you a few hours ago: almost 30,000 comments.
Might want to check out the DNA results for “Sephardic versus Ashkanazi” – they are not different – indeed your view of JDL is not as nuanced as mine – albeit there are nuts in JDL that offend and frighten and act like those they say they are protecting others from.
Weird direction for a thread on corporate America protecting itself from a critic via firing Keith. I am not sure Comcast has all that many folks that are Jewish in senior management – I am sure this is about money protect money. Indeed several of Comcast’s top executives have been financial supporters of Republicans (and Obama and anti-net neutratity) and I am hard pressed to find the Jewish folks defending Joe L amongst top management who have names like Kevin M. Casey, Michael A. Doyle, David N. Watson, Stephen B. Burke (who has left for a job in England), William Connors, John Ridall, and Brad Dusto,
may have been strategic” ???????
Seems every knife in the back – every promise that turns into a lie – was forced on our victim Obama by those mean GOPers who held unemployment up a few days. Hard to see the “no healthcare” when the public option moment of truth was after the GOP plan had passed and the vote was an only 50 votes needed budget reconciliation vote where Obama forced Reid to violate his promise and not include a vote on the public option.
Here’s the link to the Bring Keith Olbermann Back Facebook group…
http://on.fb.me/tHuRBer
1300+ members since Friday
We don’t need antisemitism in the progressive netroots, thankyouverymuch. The DC establishment is more than happy to support any neoconservative, Jewish or otherwise. Just as they’re equally happy to do all in their power to stop progressives, Jewish (ie Russ Feingold) or otherwise.
the pubs are planning 400 mil for 2012 and obama is planning 1 billion. who do you think is being supported by the corporations? There is no democratic party, start on the bones now.
Gee, I wouldn’t call them gay. Gay has a connotation of good taste and awareness. Just call them whores and be done with it. No need to slur the gay community…
Or, maybe Olbermann will end up at HuffPost, just like Dan Froomkin did.
Then he could learn how to create his own media empire… we can’t have too many progressive media empires, after all.
The other thing I’ve noticed recently on MSNBC is the appearance of that right-wing piece of shit Amy Holmes. The shift to the right has begun. Ghod, I HATE amy holmes.
Michael Kingsley, “Joe Lieberman has the hectoring, bromidic, high-rhetorical style reminiscent of an especially pompous clergyman.” Just about says it all.