We’ll shortly be hearing the objections of deficit hawks to the deficit reduction package Demos, The Century Foundation, and the Economic Policy Institute. No doubt they’ll echo the criticisms that have already been leveled at the deficit-shrinkage roadmap Rep. Jan Schakowsky put on the table earlier this month. To get a sense of what those criticisms are likely to be, I recently had a close look at a Schakowsky critique by The Atlantic’s resident deficit hawk, Derek Thompson.
The first thing that makes Thompson’s November 16 piece interesting is that it actually acknowledges the existence of Schakowsky’s plan. The second thing, only slightly less extraordinary, is that Thompson makes an effort to analyze and understand the proposal. It took the New York Times nearly two weeks after Schakowsky released it to even note that it was there (and even then, didn’t provide details).
What’s most remarkable about Thompson’s analysis, however, is that he lectures Schakowsky for not squeezing poor and low-income workers hard enough.
Is this a plan to reduce the deficit? Absolutely. But it is mostly a plan to increase taxes on businesses, rich people — and especially rich businesspeople. Corporations would pay the government more of their business income. Employers would pay the government more of their employees’ wages, while owing the feds more of their own wages, too. And investors would pay the government more of their investment income from corporate stock returns. A deficit reduction plan should also be a pro-growth plan. But the concentration of higher taxes on business, investment and upper-middle class workers is troublesome, especially as the bottom half of the country is asked to give up practically nothing on top of enjoying its lowest effective tax rates in recent history.
Let’s see what this all means. The “bottom half of the country” have been having it too good for too long. Low-income Americans do indeed face low effective tax rates, thanks mainly to the Earned Income Tax Credit. But Thompson seems to think that’s an excuse for demanding greater sacrifice from them. He seems to forget that these people suffer from high debt burdens, high unemployment, and little prospect – under current policies – of a brighter economic future for years to come.
Thompson’s right, of course, that “a deficit reduction plan should also be a pro-growth plan.” But his idea of pro-growth, just as it is for the other center-rightists whose deficit reduction plans have been garnering press attention lately, is pure voodoo economics. Just like the supply-side nostrums that Ronald Reagan peddled 30 years ago, Thompson appears to be calling for lower taxes on business and investment – who, incidentally, would benefit far more from the Bowles-Simpson deficit reduction scheme than would “upper-middle class workers.”
The idea, presumably, is that “business” and “investment,” given reliably low tax rates, will unleash the dynamism and creativity they’ve been holding in check the past three years, generating a new economic boom-time. The problem with this theory is that we’ve already tried it. Following the near-collapse of 2008, the Federal Reserve pumped America’s major financial institutions full of no-cost loans while the Treasury threw further funds at them in the form of TARP money.
It didn’t work. Some of the money Wall Street sat on, either using it in effect to protect the bad assets it refuses to write off its balance sheets, or pumping the funds back into its high-stakes trading desks. Until the economy recovers in some other, more robust way, there’s no reason to think “business” and “investment” will respond to lower tax income rates in any other way.
Yet that is the fundamental economic premise not only of the Bowles-Simpson plan, but of the other recent attention-getting deficit reduction package, the Bipartisan Policy Center plan concocted by Alice Rivlin and Pete Domenici.
The other question, of course, is what’s so terrible about raising taxes on companies? Says Thompson of Schakowsky,
All told, she gets $130 billion from removing tax benefits for companies without lowering the corporate income tax rate. The unfortunate upshot is that we would have one of the highest effective tax rates in the developed world, and companies would have a greater incentive to keep their businesses outside the US.
Let’s take a look at those tax increases, most of which take the form of eliminating tax breaks. First, let it be noted that those tax breaks, combined with the current corporate tax rates, actually place American companies among the world’s less taxed businesses. Second, the fact is that many of the breaks Schakowsky proposes to repeal are egregious, unproductive, and should have been abolished long ago.
For instance, there’s the Active Financing Tax Deferral for financial firms, which makes it easier for them to defer taxes on income earned abroad – and thus to outsource American jobs. There’s the tax policy that favors debt, which encourages companies to leverage themselves to the gills – a major factor in the recent financial crisis. That one alone accounts for more than half the “tax increases” Thompson decries.
Then there’s the tax break that allows companies to write off “intangible assets,” the details of which are slanted to subsidize mergers and acquisitions – and thus encourage American business to concentrate more on churning their ownership than on productive activities. Finally, I’ll point to – the list goes on – there’s elimination of the deduction for business meals and entertainment.
Nothing further need be said about that one. (Except, did you hear about the Wall Street trader who threw a bizarre bachelor party in Miami the other day that included his being handcuffed to a dwarf? I wonder how much was expensed out of the amounts spent by the attendees at that affair.)
Does Thompson really think that ending these giveaways would have the slightest effect on American productivity, GDP, job creation, or any other legitimate economic growth factor?
Meanwhile, Thompson tags as “fairly radical” Schakowsky’s proposal to eliminate the cap on employers’ contributions to Social Security and restore the cap on workers’ contribution to 90% of earnings, plus a surtax above that amount. In fact, raising the cap to 90% is one of the proposals included in the Simpson-Bowles plan. It’s been around for a long time. Even George W. Bush expressed interest in it from time to time. It’s hardly radical.
Thompson complains also that Schakowsky won’t consider what he calls “smart Social Security reductions for richer retirees.” This is also known as means testing. As has been shown in study after study, it can’t produce meaningful reductions in Social Security costs unless it digs deeply into the benefits going to the middle class.
In the end, Thompson’s objections to Schakowsky’s plan amount to class warfare: a plea to preserve the privileges the financial elite have acquired by dint of decades of hard lobbying, at the expense of the middle class and low-income households. Look for the Demos-Century Foundation-Economic Policy Institute proposal to meet with much the same response.



42 Comments

Really great post! It is amazing how some wealthy folks seem to think the bottom half doesn’t pay its fair share. Payroll taxes, sales taxes, registry fees, etc. don’t seem like a lot to the wealthy. To the poor these add up to a significant bite.
HUGE diary . . . bookmarked for future reference.
Great analysis, thanks for your time and work and thanks for sharing it with us readers.
Rcc’d, of course.
THIS is why this is a class war we face and not a political or racial or gender or sexual preference . . . THESE issues above level us all to serfdom.
We stop serfdom and the rising tides will float us all to better times on the seas we sail for equality for all.
Again, thank you.
The wealthy think they’re doing great by the rest of us. Have u ever had to make a compliant to HR if u worked for a big Corp. Right, complain, why would u want to complain unless your the problem. The simple truth is we have a royal aristocracy now in America and this attitude extends all the way down the food chain. Complain! COMPLAINTS! The rabble needs their food rations cut that’s how we deal with complainers. This is how it it. Believe me I’ve been there. ( @ HR).
The Bowles-Simpson plan would certainly be pro-growth, for China.
Uh, isn’t it the ‘bottom 95 per cent’ they are talking about, not the more egalitarian ‘half’? As if the pitchforks would not prick, nor the torches burn. The aristocracy in France just prior to the Revolution had a similar attitude, later foreshortened for most of them.
~~~Mod Note: While appreciating the history, lets not go any further down this path~~~
Great post. So the lower half has been asked to give up nothing?
How about the fact they’ve already given up, oh, say, their jobs?? If not their jobs themselves, then their expected raises over the past two years at least, if not five or six years. How about the fact they have given up more of their income to pay for health care and health insurance (as costs for insurance rise every year).
How about the fact they’ve given up the chance to move for a better job, because they can’t sell their current house or buy a new house? How about the education for themselves or their children they’ve given up because they can’t afford it?
Ummmm….well, that’s just off the top of my head.
What is *wrong* with these people???? Yes,it’s rhetorical.
Yes. Thanks for the excellent analysis.
On the more grass and dirt roots level I fear it is the majority of the public, certainly the once middle class, who believe at a deep level that the unemployed and more poor people than they are greedy grasping lazy near, if in fact not fact, criminals. That they deserve no compassion, indeed rather hatred. They for this reason support the GOPers continuing the war on the lifestyle of the middle class including themselves.
Just this morning I was near tears reading the Augusta Ga Chronicle discussion of a letter demanding a retraction of a writer’s statements regarding the Constitutional basis for government attending to the general welfare..
http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/letters/2010-11-29/letter-writer-should-retract-her-clause
The last paragraph is the one that counts: this is nothing more than class warfare against those who can least afford it and have least ability to resist it. The working poor in this country can NOT afford to pay taxes. The sooner we accept that as a basic fact, the sooner we may be able to address it. Imagine making 25k a year and trying to raise a family. It just does not compute. One sickness or lay off and you can be out on the street. It is a stressful existence at best and, to me, anyway it is a form of slavery. And this asshole wants them to dig deep and pay more. Even engaging in the discussion of how the rich are being hurt, and it is so unfair to the wealthy business class, lends it credence. Those who take a million or more in bonus money every year owe something to this country. Fuck them.
Class war against the rest of us. Sickening.
I think we’re only about a couple months from the GOP openly advocating for a return to slavery.
“Paying wages is Socialism!”
“We’ll shortly be hearing the objections of deficit hawks …”
Let’s not forget why. The biggest deficit hawk is the POS in the WH.
At the level some people are paid and the benefits they receive, I think an argument could be made that slavery might be a better and less stressful existence. Sad.
Whenever confronted by those who complain that the poor pay few taxes, I ask them if they would like to hear my side of the tax story: The poor “pay” because they receive poor schools, poor housing, poor nutrition, poor healthcare, and ‘poor’ social programs to help them.
It lately seems so, I agree.
Thing is if unemployment stays at 10% Barry Oilbummer won’t be reelected. And with his reich wing austerity measures in place, it might go up.
Oilbummer, you need a massive job programs and an increase in taxes for the filthy rich.
A local paper here had this asshole who made the argument that “so many” people paid no taxes at all and that was just wrong. (but of course he ignored SS taxes and property taxes.) Everyone should just pick themselves up and go to work. I had a long running battle with this ass. But even talking to him seemed to lend credence to his argument: “well, I had to do it, why can’t they?”
Just beat your workers with a whip until they stop asking for food.
“The last paragraph is the one that counts: this is nothing more than class warfare against those who can least afford it and have least ability to resist it.”
A problem is that the very people they are assaulting have bought their rhetoric of disgust for the middle class and poor and support them. They, many, are locked in self hatred and believe they deserve this treatment, seeing the only way out is to exploit some others while magically getting rich.
That’s why some people continue to commit crimes. They would rather just stay in jail, where they get 3 hots and a cot, and medical care.
Betcha that fat bastard at Massey Energy the first one to bring up bringing back slavery.
Working is slavery. Wage slavery.
If the rich cannot be eaten they should at least be taxed!
Yes, that is why the goal has always been getting paid for sitting on one’s ass.
I like your conclusion. I care about the rich even less than they care about me. I hope they get a hemorrhage from worrying that somewhere, someone is getting something they don’t deserve.
The plan put forth by Jan depends on the a certain part of the population continuing to want to be suckers. At some point, they refuse.
Do they flat refuse? No, they refuse to a greater or lessor extent.
It is just odd that people have not figured out that all parts of the system need to be encouraged as much as possible to be successful. The more profit made, the taxes collected. The more taxes collected, the more to spend on programs.
Just quite odd that not only do some want higher tax rates, but then they also want to make it more and more difficult to make any money to get taxed.
THEN, they wonder why there is no collected money to do anything–Ireland, Greece, Spain, etc.
The height of stupidity.
Good post. This is just regurgitation of the Wall ST Journal “lucky duckies” meme that went forth around 2002:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_duckies
Same notion that the “lower orders” got all this “free stuff” (or whatever), and it was sooooo unfaaaay-yer to the poor poor poor benighted wealthy folks, who, of course, work *so hard* (whilst said “small people” loll about all day peeling grapes and being fanned by ???).
Yes: class warfare. Deserves repeating at every turn. I agree with a prior comment that some middle and working class folks have drunk the Kool Aid of self-loathing because they’re not wealthy enough, and that it must be “all their fault” and that they’re not “working hard enough” and all that gumpf. It’s quite aggravating, but I definitely hear lots of people opining any more about entitlements and about “small people” gaming the system. Quite a prevelant thought.
It’s propoganda like this – and the Wall St J articles of a similar vein – that create the mindset to buy this b.s.
Heh…
The criticism is based on the argument that all the economy needs is a supply of money for investment. When what the economy needs is a reason to invest–like consumer spending.
Austerity in this recession leads to more austerity leads to ….a collapsed global economy, zero profits, and so forth. The classic characteristics of what Marx called the crisis of capitalism–too efficient investment and productivity kills market demand.
And declining market demand will soon affect the exports from China, India, and other countries.
Welcome to the Hoover administration.
dear mod-understood and appreciated. just a bit annoyed at the hubris. some people do really need an arresting image to fix their attention, though.
Rachel Maddow had a chart on a few weeks back (I wish I could find it now) that showed that under Democratic governance everyone – even the rich – do better. Under the Rethugs, the rich do better than they should, but surprisingly, they don’t do as well as they do under the Dems. That was quite a surprise.
Of course, under the current whatever it is, I think we are experiencing what happened when FDR started kowtowing to the Rethugs and the country went into the double-dip of the Great Depression Part the second.
Unfortunately for us, we never got a chance to climb out of the Great Recession Part the first. We are still at the bottom – and even David Stockman agrees that we need to TAX THE RICH! for the good of the country.
In Greece they tried the Reagan “let there be more profit” supply side approach – and decreased gov regulators and auditors – and found in a media sponsored audit of the real estate tax that is in effect “self-reported” descriptions of real estate, that in one section of Athens that had homes that had over 17000 private outdoor swimming pools installed, only a few dozen pools were reported to the gov so they could be taxed. They also found that without gov workers doing audits, the employees collecting the tax became very well off as the rich pushed them to accept bribes to reduce the valuation of property.
Indeed the finding was that only 33% of the real estate tax that should have been paid was being paid – with the average bribe estimated at another 33% of the tax that should have been paid. I rather like the fact that the theft of taxes was split 50/50 between the rich owner and the corrupt gov employee.
“a certain part of the population continuing to want to be suckers. At some point, they refuse” – in the class war of the rich on the middleclass that Reagan started, let us hope that middleclass is the side that “refuse” this time – and they force Obama to not sign any Bush tax cuts for the rich bill coming from Congress.
Eric Laursen, why is it that you believe that any of these deficit reduction plans are needed at a time of high unemployment?
Are we just supposed to take Peter Peterson’s word for it that we need to cut the deficit?
The Schakowsky plan isn’t liberal, it’s not progressive, it’s reactionary. Perhaps it’s not reactionary enough for The Atlantic, but it’s still reactionary.
I had a friend of mine who lives in So. Va feed me the line popular still among southerners that slavery wasn’t so bad because slaves got free room and board and hardly ever got beaten. It’s like Germans saying that the Jews were just ungrateful complainers because, we didn’t charge them for the train ride to the ovens. All these kinds of sickening arguments come under the heading of “the banality of evil.”
The corporate plutocracy keeps trying to sell the thoroughly discredited trickle-down baloney – and the corporate media keeps serving it up freshly, as if there were any truth in it.
Good analysis. But there’s yet another critique of the Schakowsky plan, and also of all the deficit reduction plans. See: http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone/2010/11/19/co-ordinated-around-the-wrong-thing/
In 2008 and aftermath tons of debt was transferred to public balance sheet besides the more obvious bailout bonanza as pointed out in FDL numerous times. Even now so much noise is being raised about raising couple of percentage points in the income tax on the top bracket.
Progressive taxation is the only way we can keep being First world nation instead of receding into a third world nation. This is never broached for obvious reason.
Top 1% except for few super rich do not realize one simple thing. Life is horrible & difficult for all in a third world nation including for the top 1%. One simply cannot enjoy their hors d oeuvres & champagne when surroundings are crappy. We need to bring back progressive taxation rates we had during Pres. Eisenhower for the good of all.
If we go through each and every recommendation of Deficit commission ask one simple question to yourself.
Will the middle class be affected in a negative way and pushed into Poor class ?
The answer will be a resounding yes.
In my opinion the commission is not stacked with people from all walks of life. It is just a exercise to see how to push our country into depression by removing the only thing holding up our country from falling into it. The constant stimulus our economy gets from social security with people tapping into the younger year savings from the worlds safest investment i.e. our treasury bonds. Gridlock is the best solution for now. It might result in good things for our country like expiry of tax cuts, estate taxes reinstatement etc.
After reading all of the very thoughtful posts, I believe it is time to think about our options in 2012.
Yes and yes. I agree.
And I don’t understand those who paint any of these plans in a good light. Not even the Schakowsky plan.
RM does charts like that periodically, but I don’t know where to find them, either. I agree that *everyone* does better under what used to be traditional “Democratic” principles and administration and tax structure (eg, I don’t believe that the current crop of thugs who call themselves “Democrats” are to be trusted to do what “real” Dems used to do).
The issue, though, is that the top 1% – 3% don’t really need to do any “better,” but it seems clear to me that they (the super gigantically rich) would *much prefer* for the rest of us to be ground under serfs, so that we’ll be pliable to do their bidding (which IS what’s happening right now, frankly).
Someone further down the line makes a good point that no 3rd world country is that great to live in, even for the amazingly wealthy. But I really don’t think these ridiculously rich sh*ts give a f*ck about that. I guess they’ll be satisfied to live behind high, electrified fences with guard dogs and guards 24/7.
Makes no sense to me, but that definitely seems to be what they want.
The single best way to ease 1) the tax on worker wages, 2) the prices they pay for all goods and services and 3) to save their defined benefit pension plans is to Eliminate the US Corporate Income Tax. It is the single easiest lever to pull right now to jumpstart the US economy. All the worrying in Washington over the Federal fiscal situation is nothing compares to the problems that the States will face over the next 15 years when pension plans go bust and stop sending retirement benefits to its members. Time to fix it is now. http://www.eliminatecorporateincometax.com
That’d be a massive giveaway to the richest 0.1% and wouldn’t help the economy.
Please eliminate the eliminatecorporateincometax blog.