What’s happening with six billion dollars in the stimulus package designated for expanded broadband access across America?
I would like to begin by saying I live in rural America with cell phone wireless access. Note, I am not calling my access "broadband" as my $75.00 a month bill tries to convince me that’s what I have. I don’t understand all the numbers, but if a 5 minute YouTube requires 8 to 25 minutes to load, I think it’s fair to say I do not have, nor can I purchase at any price, anything close to broadband. And I am far ahead of the vast majority of my neighbors.
We now know there is as much as six billion dollars in grant money in play. Last week the House Energy and Commerce Committee freed up 2.825 billion in grant money with little specificity and no apparent coherent plan. Though it is encouraging to read that stipulations protecting the idea of Net Neutrality were buried in the bill requiring open access remain intact when use of grant money is involved. Yes, the big Telcos were fighting neutrality and their ability to limit amount of data tooth and nail:
CTIA, an association of wireless companies, sent a letter to committee leaders Wednesday asking that the "vague, undefined, and unnecessary ‘open access’ obligation" be removed. CTIA said carriers will be reluctant to apply for the grants if they are uncertain of their open access obligations.
Who might be fighting neutrality or for the ability to maintain a chokehold on speed or quantity of data?
Potential recipients of the grant money include Internet service providers AT&T Inc, Verizon Communications and Comcast Corp.
Rural telephone companies could also apply, such as CenturyTel Inc, Windstream Corp and Frontier Communications Corp.
Now we also know the rural portion (another 3 billion dollars) sits the hands of the House Committee on Agriculture. A committee with a web page in desperate need of help. A search for the term broadband on their site returns nothing new in the last six months.
We know the Brookings people claim:
300,000 jobs are ultimately created per percentage point growth in broadband penetration.
Which quickly adds up and fits what many people consider to be imperative factors with stimulus spending, both short and long term rewards on our investments, in terms of energy efficiency, employment and educational benefits to name a few important reasons for expanded real broadband.
We know countries such as Japan:
Japanese carriers already offer 1Gbps fiber connections for prices as low as ¥5,460 (US$51.40) per month, and are already working toward 10Gbps connections.
While far too many Americans are still waiting for a dial tone, or busy pretending their broadband is actually some form of high speed service. When even cable customers are fighting chokeholds and other limitations at a time we should all be racing ahead of the rest of the world.
We need a coherent plan, implementing high speed infrastructure ready for the next 50 years, much like we once conducted ourselves with our electric grid or interstate highway systems. We need to dramatically raise the bar on broadband minimum speed while reaching for much higher speeds at the top end; not fight with lobbyists over how slow we can be, riddled with limitations instead of grand possibilities. We need Internet neutrality to be set in stone. After all it’s our money which financed the invention of the Internet, it’s our airwaves, imminent domain, taxes or monthly bill money which makes this possible at all.
Shall we lie back and think of Japan or at the very least demand we be able to compete with them?




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What Americans have Japanese wouldn’t even call broadband.
Just scratching the surface of what so many others have.. should embarrass us a great deal. And I say that in comparison to folks in the U.S. with far greater speeds than I have.
South Korea is actually the better example.. which provides Gig-E+ capacity to virtually the entire countries on a highly subsidized basis.
Check out the following articles on the Korean broadband infrastructure mirable:
http://www.wired.com/wired/arc…..korea.html
http://www.businessweek.com/gl…..370511.htm
Meanwhile, the rethugs are opposing the real stimulus plan and embracing the Mitt Romney plan, as published in NRO, which may be summarized as follows (literally):
1. tax cuts! tax cuts! tax cuts! (only the rich need apply)
2. weapons not infrastructure.. weapons offer the biggest possible and fastest possible boost (seriously)
3. break the unions for greater prosperity
When our country ranks among the highest in the world in corporate tax rates even including the various loopholes why would we not want to lower them to encourage business’ to come here or stay here. In a rapidly increasing global economy with an ever shrinking world our government should be doing everything it can to encourage business’ growth. Tax cuts are the easiest and most proven throughout history way to do this. Japan went through a massive real estate bust over 15 years ago that some would argue they never fully recovered from and with 10 plus stimulus packages centering around infrastructure projects one would think we would not follow this route as a stimulus. Infrastructure is important and needs to be a priority but don’t fool yourself or others into thinking that it is a basis for stimulus. Tax cuts are proven and will not only keep more money in the private sector (instead of government taking more and trusting them to do whats best, think taking care of our retirement (i.e. social security, its all IOU’s))but also restore confidence by having a proven plan that will allow business’, investors, and any person to understand the plan and do enable them to do more for themselves.
We need to ensure that rich people get even faster internet.
If we spin it that way, the republicans will be all for it!
We may be watching nothing but a pork grant giveaway to various Telcos.
No way in hell will the republicans like the idea of America moving forward when it comes to computer access! They would rather we live in the days when we communicated using tin cans & string.
I’m starting to think that red states shouldn’t get any stimulus money….
I’m starting to think we need a national Corp of Internet Infrastructure Engineers.
How about a Rural Internet Administration, like FDR’s Rural Electrification office? To ensure that all the rich people’s country houses get internet.
Great idea. We can tell them, “Well, you said if you wanted to build a bridge, you’d do it yourself”, and I’m sure they’ll nod in agreement. LOL
I’ve got a good friend who works in the Cable/Telecom construction business. He told me a few years ago (maybe 15?) that at that time, it cost roughly $20/$25K per mile for construction.
Which pretty much means the rural areas (and small towns) are going to be the last areas to receive even the limited stuff we call broadband here in the US.
Unless forced to do so.
Of course, I actually remember that Cable grew out of the need/desire to bring TV to rural and isolated pockets of the country where over-the-air signals wold not penetrate.
we should use some of the analogue tv spectrum for broadband wifi. and like going to the library at a basic level it should be free.
Most of the analog frequencies have already been sold, they were sold off last year, Microsoft bought a huge number. I would have to check with Elmore about who bought them up but when they put the Feb date for the conversion they sold them. The TV shows are having a lot of trouble finding frequencies to use their wireless equipment and radios during setup and shows.
damn. that’s too bad….
An another interesting thing about a mobile TV production getting frequencies, they have to get permission and frequencies from DHS and clearance from the local safety manager. It gets really ragged when it is a big show like the Super Bowl.
They don’t have standard freqs they operate on?
They travel from city to city, the fire dept in Atlanta my use different frequencies than what is used in San Diego, then you have to consider the police, hospital (lifeflight) and Ambulance frequencies. Some areas are pretty tight for “free” frequencies.
ES @28 – it is my understanding when they finally decide on a conversion date to digital then all broadcast stations will stop their analog feed. Would have to check with Elmore what speed…… are you looking for a broadcast analog feed for high speed internet?
Not yet.. Just curious if it would even work for folks like me… who cannot get a single analogue television broadcast this far out in the woods. Much less if it would really provide genuine high speed service.
Don’t go with the Hugh’s Satellite, Elmore knows several people who have gotten it and it sucks….
Thanks. I was thinking that a block of freqs would be set aside for local TV etc and they could use those.
Satellite dishes, too, especially the smaller ones. They’re never going to run cable out in the country, but everyone who wants can get a dish.
The phone and electric co-ops were sponsoring DirecTV dishes in West Texas, in 1994, and there was a months-long delay in getting them, they were so popular.
I have a dish. Terrible service. Over $100 a month and they limit my downloads/uploads to 250MB per 24 hour period. That 24 hour period can be defined anyway they want. They give us “free” download time from 2AM to 4AM… but if i start a download at 1:59, they count all MBs.
It’s a raw deal. Unless they change some of the ways Sat companies abuse their customers, i wouldn’t want anyone to think it is a “good deal”. It’s just the only deal around.
$20-$25K a mile for hanging fiber will be on distribution poles on the road and that presupposes that you get cooperation from the pole owners/custodians. I can tell you from personal experience that ILECs (Frontier and Verizon here in NYS) are NOT cooperative. That is, yes, you can get on their poles…but they make the process onerous, very expensive, maddening and frustrating. They will also, if they can, stick you with replacing their poles(that they no longer do maintenance on) – and every pole that you replace will cost, depending on height anywhere from $500 to $1500. And there are 26 of those per mile.
Couldn’t Uncle Sam just say share, or we will take them over completely?
I think a lot of fiber is being buried these days for protections purposes but would have to check with my fried to verify. At least in city areas they are burying.
Many new developments are required to bury all cable/power lines.
Yeah, I think it’s a combination of aesthetics and practicality. Don’t have the poles cluttering up the line of sight AND don’t have poles going over taking down the lines in wind/ice/whatever storms.
Digg it
When we were in Europe last summer we found WiFi in amazing places, in the gardens at Notra Dame, at rest stops on the Autoroute, and sitting in parks. The amazing thing was the ferry from Crete to Athens… both full cell phone and internet service the full 2 hour trip.
my dad worked for at&t for almost 38 years (mostly bell labs) – other than the navy, as an adult he worked nowhere else. his pension was at&t, his healthcare came from at&t and it was at&t savings that put my brother and i through college. just so you know how serious i am when i say the following (am even going to use shift key for this one):
Fuck AT&T.
oh, and they can build us the network or they can give us the money back.
Damn, the shift key. That’s some serious shit.
yeah… watch out for the shift key action. *g*
Of course, you realize that today’s AT&T is not the same one your father worked for. The current AT&T is the “Baby Bell” from the 1984 divestiture that was known as SBC (Southwestern Bell). A few years ago, they bought out their former parent and took the AT&T name and logo.
That’ like changing clothes in one of those revolving doors. Go in one side SWB come out the other AT&T. Same shit, different suit.
i know. but still…. (my dad retired in the late ’80s).
OT: Per Shuster, Geitner confirmed. He’s playing lots of Limpballs, but I don’t know why.
Shuster is easily led by the nose…. someone must of gotten a hold of him for force feeding him repug kool-aide…..
on c-span2 the vote is now being held. but maybe my webstream is delayed?
I’m getting a live feed with the current time.
How many votes are needed for Geithner to be confirmed? Is it 60?
I think it’s a simple majority.
60 votes for cloture, simple majority to pass the actual nomination.
That’s what I thought. Our boy Geithner got 9 more than needed. Now we’ll see whether he’s worth his salt or not. I’m not as worried about Geithner as I am about Summers.
Geithner strikes me so far as a technocrat, not a policymaker or deep thinker, who will do what Summers tells him.
he’s a team player.
That’s exactly what I’m afraid of. As I said to selise the other day, Summers was a really, really bad call on Obama’s part.
we are so on the same page re summers.
Selise, what speeds would that produce, and would it reach rural folks like myself who cannot pick up one analogue broadcast even with a giant antennae on my roof?
i don’t remember the details off the top of my head – maybe katymine does?
60-34 confirmed.
In discussions like these I like to bring up this article
http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/…..thisid=186
Kushnick wrote a 406 page book on this. I don’t know much about it but some of the info on it can be found here.
http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm
Shorter version: The telecoms have already received $200 billion in fees to build a highspeed fiber network but they didn’t. Instead they pocketed the cash. It is one of those great but invisible thefts that are so much a sign of our times.
that sux
I researched satellite service extensively before committing to wireless cell phone service. My cell phone on really really good days runs at about 500 on a speed test. Satellite users are thrilled to reach half that speed. Results are far worse when testing uploads.
And satellite users have a whole lot of additional problems.
The country needs fiber optic service to every home, imo.. just like we have electricity.
sounds good to me.
or else, we could, you know, build some more smart bombs?
My grandfather was an electrical engineer and had a great job during the depression electrifying trains.
We should do to he same thing today with fiber optic to every home. We can do it.
Mayhaps Congress could put some language in a bill that will “encourage” ILECs to cooperate, making uncooperative very expensive.
When I lived on Oregon the little co-op phone company started providing cable and eventually high speed internet. Us shareholders voted to give up our dividend for 10 years to pay for the installation of fiber cable throughout their service area. Now this was rural, I had an acre and my next door neighbor had 5. They started laying cable in 1995, I had cable in 1996 and before I moved in 1997 they had their broadband internet going.
It was Beavercreek Telephone a little co-op who had the vision to see the future and did it. Next to the U-pick farms, I missed the telephone company the most…… any issues and call up Iris and she would take care of ya….
I live on a county line in rural va 65 miles from DC. My neighbor, 100 yards away in the next county which is served by an old local telephone company has DSL. Everyone in that county has DSL even though the county is quite rural and houses are spread everywhere.
Meanwhile, I am in Verizon hell. And the repair people that come to fix the really crap land lines I have for my dialup say I’ll never see broadband. And that adjacent small telcom has a fiberoptic cable going right past my driveway but because of the Verizon monopoly, I can’t become their customer.
Ain’t monopoly capitalism grand?
The Dark Lord of Broadband Tries to Fix Comcast’s Image
downright creepy
Eureka, thank you for this. My situation is somewhat like JTJT’s. If I were about 1,000 feet away, I’d be in another county and have access to a decent broadband carrier.
Yet I’m told there are 5 fiber optic lines with vast amounts of duplicate/unused capacity running down a street 100 feet from me. Is this what’s happening with all that money – duplicate infrastructure in areas where companies want to be postured to compete but aren’t permitted to do so?
From here, appears they can’t be entrusted with infrastructure money and should be forced to share capacity. Oh, that pesky regulation word again.
Rec’d and dugg.