The influential website pollster.com’s composite poll shows for the first time that more people disapprove of President Obama’s handling of his job than approve.
Obama’s DISAPPROVAL rating is 48.3%, his APPROVAL rating is 47.8%.
Although this is a statistically insignificant difference, what is significant is that Obama’s approval rating has been on an almost steady decline since last January. To be more accurate, Obama’s approval ratings declined steadily until about August when they dropped sharply, held firm from about August to late November, when they again began to drop significantly. Looking at Obama’s approval rating vs. his disapproval rating looks like looking at a picture of an obstructed intestine with the gap between the two steadily narrowing until now, the disapproval rating is larger. Pollster.com’s rating is a composite of all the major polls. The site itself is nonpartisan, nonprofit, and run with the assistance of highly regarded political scientists at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.
It is not clear yet if the poll reflects opinion on Obama’s widely derided Afghanistan escalation speech in which he lied to the American public while claiming that Afghanistan was responsible for the planning of 9/11 and its execution. In fact 14 out of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, NONE from Afghanistan while the attack was planned in Hamburg, Germany, not in Afghanistan. Thus, Wikipedia, relying on information from the FBI and the official 9/11 Commission reports that:
On September 27, 2001 the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about many of their possible nationalities and aliases.[17] All the suspected hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon and Egypt.
In his West Point speech, Obama also presented a withdrawal or exit date of July, 2011 for his troop escalation but Secretary of Defense Gates and Secretary of State Clinton almost immediately began hedging on this pledge making it clear it was pretty much meaningless, a "promise" made by Obama purely for political reasons. The New York Times today makes this clear in their story entitled, "No Firm Plans for a U.S. Exit in Afghanistan":
The Obama administration sent a forceful public message Sunday that American military forces could remain in Afghanistan for a long time, seeking to blunt criticism that President Obama had sent the wrong signal in his war-strategy speech last week by projecting July 2011 as the start of a withdrawal.
In a flurry of coordinated television interviews by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and other top administration officials…said that any troop pullout beginning in July 2011 would be slow and that the Americans would only then be starting to transfer security responsibilities to Afghan forces under Mr. Obama’s new plan.
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“We have strategic interests in South Asia that should not be measured in terms of finite times,” said Gen. James L. Jones, the president’s national security adviser, speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “We’re going to be in the region for a long time.”Echoing General Jones, Mr. Gates played down the significance of the July 2011 target date.
“There isn’t a deadline,” Mr. Gates said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “What we have is a specific date on which we will begin transferring responsibility for security district by district, province by province in Afghanistan, to the Afghans.”
On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Mr. Gates said that under the plan, 100,000 American troops would be in Afghanistan in July 2011, and “some handful, or some small number, or whatever the conditions permit, will begin to withdraw at that time.”
In his prime-time address at West Point on Tuesday, Mr. Obama said that even as he planned to send 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, his administration would “begin the transfer of our forces out of Afghanistan in July of 2011.”
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On Sunday, the administration’s top civilian and military officials marched in lockstep in insisting that July 2011 was just the beginning, not the end, of a lengthy process. That date, General Jones said, is a “ramp” rather than a “cliff.”As they seek to explain the new war strategy, administration officials face the task of calibrating the message about America’s commitments in Afghanistan to different audiences, foreign and domestic, each of whom wants to hear different things.
In other words, Obama’s benchmark is not a benchmark, his withdrawal date is not really a withdrawal date, and the President engaged in the worst type of pandering for votes by misleading the American people as to the real intentions of his administration. So too, Obama’s much ballyhooed intention to use the escalation to train Afghan troops is a chimera since it is obvious they will not be ready in the 18 months that Obama envisioned in his speech. The Christian Science Monitor pointedly questions the entire rationale of Obama’s pledge in an article, "Afghanistan Surge: What can it Achieve in 18 Months?":
"I don’t consider this an exit strategy," said Gates on ABC’s "This Week." …She (Hillary Clinton) agreed that the president’s plan was not an "exit strategy." … "We will have a significant number of forces in there for some considerable period of time after" July 2011, Gates told "Meet the Press."
Just days after his speech, Obama’s rationale for the escalation and his vision of what will happen has been completely undermined–by officials in his own administration. Obama did not want to tell the truth to the American people: the U.S.A. will be mired in the Afghanistan conflict for many, many years and its cost will be much, much greater than Obama’s projections. So, we see Obama in his real role: Chief Fairy Tale Teller.
Washington Post columnist David Broder has pointed out that Obama’s escalation has not gone over well in his own party. All four candidates vying for former Sen. Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat in Massachussets, for instance, disagree with the President on Afghanistan:
All four — including the favorite in Tuesday’s primary, state Attorney General Martha Coakley — said that they opposed the president’s decision to escalate. Referring to Obama’s promise to begin bringing an unspecified number of the "surge" forces home by July 2011, Coakley said, "It seems to me it’s impractical, given what we think the mission is, the number of troops we’re sending over.
"We really won’t be able to be finished in 18 months and start an exit strategy there."
The rejection of Obama’s argument by the leading candidate in an overwhelmingly Democratic state shows how much the president has failed to convince his fellow partisans that he is right about the biggest national security policy decision of his tenure.
It is symptomatic of a bigger problem; Coakley and her rivals are emblematic of widespread Democratic dissent on Afghanistan.
Broder warns:
A president who wages a war supported mainly by his political foes and opposed by large numbers of his own party runs a huge political risk. Even if he prevails for a time, he pays a price: the loss of his most loyal supporters.
That loss actually began months ago when Obama began abandoning the very program that he was elected upon. In truth, Obama has for some time been seeking support from Republican "foes" on health "insurance reform" on the economy and on Afghanistan while consistently dissing his liberal-progressive base. Some of his policy makers, like Defense Secretary Robert Gates, are outright Republicans while others, like Geithner and Summers, could have been advisors to Republican president Herbert Hoover.
The decline in Obama’s approval rating doubtless also shows that the public overall is increasingly disenchanted with the gap between Obama’s rhetoric and his actions in other areas. The timid approach of the Obama administration towards the unemployment/economic crisis in which Obama has sided with Wall St. over Main St. also likely has fueled an uptick in his disapproval ratings.
These latest numbers show the shine is off the Obama brand less than a year after he took office. They also indicate that the Democrats, once seen as a lock for the 2010 mid-term elections, will have an uphill battle ahead of them if the GOP ties them to an increasingly unpopular president.
In 2010, the GOP will use the same strategy that Obama used so effectively against his opponents in 2008, with Obama playing the W. role. If progressive Democrats want to withstand the storm in 2010, they must stand up against their own party’s President or be blown away.



15 Comments

Is this any wonder when the guy has done almost nothing expcept play the role since He took office.
I guess speaches are supposed to be leadership.
A video accompanies this.
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“Defense Secretary Robert Gates told me that the U.S. has not had any good intelligence on the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden in “years.”
He also couldn’t confirm reports that a detainee in Pakistan had claimed that he had information on where bin Laden was earlier this year. He made the startling admission during my interview with him for “This Week” airing Sunday.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/12/where-is-bin-laden-secretary-gates-says-no-intel-in-years.html
All gates has to do is ask John McCain.
He told us during the campaign He knew where Osama was, and would go and get Him if elected.
Course the slimeball wouldn’t tell if He knew, because He didn’t get elected.
A sign of things to come, or an interesting blip pre-public option and pre-exit strategy? Time will tell…
Interesting diary, though I think you’ve got part of your narrative wrong, the part where you say Obama “lied to the American public while claiming that Afghanistan was responsible for the planning of 9/11 and its execution.” He actually said the 9/11 attackers were [nameless nationality] Al Qaeda harbored by the Taliban in Afghanistan. From the speech:
Americans are coming to understand that what Obama says and what he does are vastly different and that he promises change but invariably delivers more of the same. They understand this and increasingly don’t like it. Despite all the political games of Rahm and Obama, the feeling is growing that we are still on the wrong track. And who can blame them? Unemployment, the bank bailouts, the wars, the sellout on healthcare, and the economy. If there is a surprise, it is that his ratings have not fallen faster and that Obama, so sensitive to the public mood during the campaign has become stone deaf to it since taking office.
When Obama first took office, his disapproval numbers were in the same range as the 25% or so hard core right-wingnuts. He never had a chance for their approval. That can be interpreted to mean that virtually all Democrats, most independents and the non-wingnut Republicans were willing to give him a chance. As you point out in the diary, Obama’s actions have not lived up to his words and he has almost doubled the disapproval numbers.
It would be very interesting to see a party breakdown of where the new disapproval numbers have come from. I think that new Republican disapproval would most likely come from his efforts at health care reform. I also think that Democratic disapproval would most likely come from his escalation of the war (and perhaps with his taking single-payer off the table and being willing to bargain away the public option).
Jim White wrote: “It would be very interesting to see a party breakdown of where the new disapproval numbers have come from. I think that new Republican disapproval would most likely come from his efforts at health care reform. I also think that Democratic disapproval would most likely come from his escalation of the war (and perhaps with his taking single-payer off the table…”
Good points, Jim. Yes, as this develops it will be see more about the numbers. My guess, and it’s just that now, is that Obama has been losing lots of support among independents, especially white and female independents including those opposed to the war and those hurt by the economy. He’s probably holding his base with black American Democrats, although he’s done absolutely nothing for them and they have the highest unemployment rates in the country. I would also guess that Obama has dropped and will drop at least 7-15% of his Democratic base that he has alienated with the war, the economy and for being in reality a Republican.
Thatvisionthing,
Thanks for your comment. Don’t forget these words from Obama’s speech where he DOES INDEED CLAIM the 9/11 attackers came from Afghanistan:
“I make this decision because I am convinced that our security is at stake in Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is the epicenter of violent extremism practiced by al Qaeda. IT IS FROM HERE THAT WE WERE ATTACKED ON 9/11, and it is from here that new attacks are being plotted as I speak. This is no idle danger; no hypothetical threat. In the last few months alone, we have apprehended extremists within our borders who were sent here from the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan to commit new acts of terror.”
(emphasis added)
Even from the words you have provided, Obama misleads us when he says why we were compelled to fight in Afghanistan to begin with. He clearly seems to link the 19 attackers with Afghanistan, and says these men (the attackers) were from Al Qaeda and that Al Qaeda’s “base of operation was in Afghanistan”…That at its best is misleading, in the above quotation he actually lies when he says “it is from here (Afghanistan) that we were attacked on 9/11″.
Also, he provided NO INFORMATION about the current threats he alluded to, and to my mind, no one asked him about it.
It has gotten to this, how do you know when Obama is lying? His lips are moving. The public now realizes that he is nothing more than a con artists who obeys his corporate masters without question. You cant trust anything the man says and people dont like liars. His linking of 911 to our current war in Afghanistan was downright disrespectful to people who have followed our involvement there. It was so illogical it made me wonder does Obama think he is that smart or does he think we are that stupid. I predict when his approval rates hit the low 40′s and the democrats have lost the congress he will try and come back to his progressive base.
Its either
1. He’s lying;
or
2. He really believes that the 9/11 terrorists came from Afghanistan.
If it’s number 1, he’s another politician lying as he sends soldiers to war;
If it’s number 2, he is too poorly informed to be President of the United states.
For the little bit of the speech that I could stand to listen to, He didn’t even sound as though he believed it himself.
Maybe someone forced him to do this, Mafia style.
“President Obama announced this week that he is deploying 30,000 additional forces to Afghanistan between now and next summer. But Robert Gates, his Pentagon chief, said today that he needs the flexibility to deploy as many as 3,000 more troops on top of that. ”
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/12/03/gates-afghanistan-surge-could-require-more-than-30000-troops/
Biggest letdown for the American people- the 60+% that disapprove of the Bush administration corruption that began with the election in 2000 and continued- is the fact that there has been no justice- no enforcement of law and punishment. Huge. I feel he hired Geithner, Bernanke and Summers to continue the system. iHow are they going to be prosecuted if they are under the presidents wing? They have sanctuary, protection. . Americans have been had.
Bluebutterfly,
Your interesting post raises the question of who really is the Commander in Chief: it suggests Robert Gates is, not Obama. Recall that Gates was appointed by W! And Obama kept him on (NO change at Defense). Obama said we would begin a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan in July 2011 and this idea was promptly qualfied and nullified by Gates. Here, as you indicate, he even has gone BEYOND Obama’s 30,000 and much closer to McCrystal’s original request of 40,000. So for all of the mainstream news stories about Obama imposing his will on Defense, it looks the other way around. Obama is merely the figurehead, the salesman for the people who really are in charge: Robert Rubin’s Goldman Sachs and the military industrial complex. In short, nothing has change with Obama in office.
No one forced him Mafr; there was no need to force him. Obama sold out long ago to Goldman Sachs. He’s their boy. Gates really is the Commander in Chief. Obama is the salesman for the unpopular war, the unpopular bailouts, the unpopular “health insurance” reform etc.