We all know how George W. Bush helped the victims of Hurricane Katrina and the good people of New Orleans while he was the most powerful man on the planet. W did, in the words of SNL applied to Obama himself, "jack" and "s..t".
So what does Obama do? YES, our decisive leader has recruited the friend of the poor, the black, the impoverished and the homeless, George W. Bush to help the people of Haiti. Can’t you just hear the collective sigh of relief coming from Port-au-Prince? "Santa Maria, our prayer’s been answered. We don’t have to worry no more, the Great Black Father in Washington has sent GEORGE W. BUSH to help us!"
From "Obama enlists Bush, Clinton to help Haiti" by Steve Holland of Reuters:
Obama enlisted the help of former President Bill Clinton, a Democrat who is already a U.N. special envoy for Haiti, and former President George W. Bush, the Republican who preceded Obama in the White House.
They agreed to a request from Obama to lead private-sector fundraising efforts, issuing a joint statement expressing deep sadness at the devastation and suffering in Haiti.
I guess Obama must have been the only person in America who didn’t witness W’s incompetence in dealing with the after effects of Hurricane Katrina. From the same story:
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs dismissed a question as to why Obama would turn to Bush after criticizing him for the U.S. response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saying bipartisan unity was needed.
There’s that 4 letter word again too, "bipartisan" that Obama loves to invoke. What we seem to be getting with the Obama administration, is bipartisan incompetence.
ABC News’ Yunji de Nies tried to draw Gibbs out, asking him essentially how this administration which had been so critical of W’s "relief efforts" after Hurricane Katrina and so critical in general of the former president, could now turn to Bush as the "best person" to help out in Haiti? That’s an excellent question answered by Gibbs with this authentic Beltway gibberish:
GIBBS: I don’t think George Bush would hold up — I think if you asked George Bush whether the government acted up to its ability in responding to Katrina, I think the answer to that would be no. I think the… I mean, you know, I just think the notion that somehow because you’ve been critical of the previous administration doesn’t mean — I mean, why did we ever come here to have lunch with them. Why did we ever come here to ask them what’s it like to be the president. I mean, I think…
Got that? I guess what Gibbs is really saying is that the Obama administration didn’t mean most of those critical words aimed at W in 2008 or that having coffee with George and chatting him up on the difficulties of being president is more important than just about anything else?
The Wall St. Journal remarks that Bush’s co-chairing of the disaster relief effort in Haiti will enable Bush to:
"mark his re-emergence into the public spotlight for the first time since leaving office a year ago amid controversy and low popularity ratings."
In other words, Obama is giving W. a helping hand in the reshaping of W’s public relations legacy. Is that what the people who voted for Obama wanted out of him? Here’s another reminder too, if one is needed, that Obama ain’t that much different than George W. After all, George W’s man is still calling all the shots over at Obama’s Defense Department.
Meanwhile, what about New Orleans now almost 5 years after Hurricane Katrina? What’s the story in that part of America following George W’s stewardship and one year of Obama’s? From a recent article:
Shelia Phillips doesn’t see the New Orleans that Mayor Ray Nagin talks about, the one on its way to having just as many people and a more diverse economy than it did before Hurricane Katrina. How could she?
From the front porch of her house in the devastated Lower 9th Ward, it’s hard to see past the vegetation slowly swallowing the property across the way. Nearby homes are boarded up or still bear the fading tattoos left by search and rescue teams nearly four years ago. The fence around a playground a few blocks down is padlocked.
"I just want to see people again," she said recently, swatting bugs in the muggy heat.
…On paper, the city’s economy appears to be thriving, with relatively low unemployment, foreclosure and bankruptcy rates. But in post-Katrina New Orleans, residents’ perceptions of their city’s recovery tends to depend on where they live, their vantage point of it. Swaths of some neighborhoods are sparsely populated, even desolate, and federal rebuilding dollars have provided much of the economic resilience.
The flow of returning residents has slowed, the cost of living has spiked and blight is rampant. Public investment in neighborhoods has been uneven, much like the pattern of Katrina’s devastation.
Water driven by the Aug. 29, 2005, storm flooded 80 percent of the city and essentially destroyed St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes. Other areas were spared the worst of the damage, and have rebounded more quickly.
…By one estimate, 36 percent of New Orleans’ housing is empty, and like the lot next to the Miesters, there is no clear indication when or whether it will be rebuilt.
…Greg Rigamer, a demographer with GCR & Associates Inc., said it could be 20 years before the population tops 400,000.
The reality of the situation is that under both Bush and Obama, Republicans and Democrats alike have presided over a country for the past 30 years that has been slipping backwards. In the late 60′s and 70′s, huge pockets of poverty were only commonplace in Appalachia and the Ozarks. But since Ronald Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and now Obama, we have the "rust belt," the devastation in the cities of Michigan so well-documented by Michael Moore, post-Katrina New Orelans, and in the past couple of years we have even seen the Golden State stumbling toward the status of a state that is both bankrupt and not governable any more. The years from 2000-2009 saw many workers actually lose earning power, lose their homes and lose their jobs. Poverty rates are at an all time high in America under a supposedly Democratic administration (but one that likes working with Republicans).
Leaders of both major parties have sold their own people out to multinational corporations who would rather produce their goods in China where there are no labor laws, no strikes, no rights, and no democracy. These are the self-same people who now claim they want to help Haiti.
FDR didn’t send Herbert Hoover out to deal with the Dust Belt and to do away with the Hoovervilles and the unemployment lines. One suspects that if Obama had been President then, he would have all under the banner of "bipartisanship".
God help the people of Haiti and the people of the United States of America.



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“Beni Swa Leternel!”
Haiti was supposedly a “foreign policy success” for Bill Clinton.
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/01/world/from-haiti-images-of-a-foreign-policy-success.html?pagewanted=1
For the Haitians, not so much.
pathetic response from the gov…100M equals roughly 33 cents from each American. As individuals, we have done much better than that. Also, hate to almost paraphrase the idiot Limbaugh (google what he said about our tax money and Haiti), but I want my tax money to go to places like Haiti in the form of real help and for social justice, not for illegal wars launched by…well by Obama and his pals the ex-presidents. Thanks for the post.
Bush and Clinton’s job is fund raising. I didn’t like the way Clinton trashed the unions and a few other things he did but helping Aristide was a good policy. Too bad the US stopped standing up to the local gangs or warlords.
Pat Robertson and others are making sick statements that the Haitians are getting what they deserve. By getting Bush involved, Obama is heading off any more sick statements unless the Pat Robertson’s wants to condemn Bush as well.
Obama may not always know when to hold and when to fold but I have no quarrel over Bush fund-raising for Haiti.
Let’s not become a permanent complaint department.
By the way I don’t think that there is any way for Obama to make the US economy soar while Europe stays in a depression. Obama is responding to bin Laden’s desire for permanent war, not the way he should. But some now placing the blame for lack of peace only on Obama, at the very least forget what an intentional trouble maker that al Qaeda is,
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/24095
According to the Wall St. Journal, Bush is expected to “co-chair the U.S. relief efforts in Haiti”. It seems that goes beyond just fund raising.
we all know how good W is at helping poor, black people whose houses and livelihoods have been flattened by natural disasters. I think this is a completely insensitive move by Obama that should be deplored.
But the Heritage Foundation asked Obama to include Bush, right?
Obama’s playing politics in the worst possible way at the worst possible time.
As Rachel Maddow said last night, considering the seriousness of the situation, let’s wish Bush better luck this time.
Here’s another development that should cheer the hearts of all the people in New Orleans and Haiti: Joe Biden will be visiting Louisiana and talking to Haitians in Florida, according to Politco:
There’s nothing like a pep talk from Senator (now VP) Credit Card. Hot air’s gotta be better for these poor folk than hot food.
George W. Bush is to help raise funds. If he can raise funds from a large swath of the nation’s conservatives, which someone else might not have been able to raise, is that a bad thing or a good thing?
If you want to know what is really pathetic, it’s the absolutely tiny, half-negative, tepid response at FireDogLake. No contribution buttons on the home page, or on Emptywheel, or on Seminal. Even after repeated emails. No centralization of any lists of places to contribute. Links to contribution lists that are so clearly political it is shameful.
What does this site, and the sites people are linking to, have against the American Red Cross? Against the UN? The damage assessments are being done by those organizations, the overall logistics aren’t going to be handled by a strictly medical group no matter how good they are, major groups like Oxfam are also underlisted. The most listed group in anybody’s links on these sites has been Partners in Health and MSF (Doctors without borders). Is there some reason why, after all the good radical fist in the airs over how poor and neglected and fucked up Haiti is, nobody gives a shit about things like food, clothing, and housing? And everybody is too politically pure to donate to any mainstream organizations (which have the wherewithall to do major disaster operations involving hundreds of thousands of casualties)?
Searching for any kind of groundswell of support for what is going to be an incredibly difficult and expensive relief effort on FDL is beginning to feel very, very bad.
So Ondelette, W. is the best Obama could find for fundraising for a poor, impoverished, black, devastated nation? How did he do again with Hurricane Katrina where again the victims were mostly poor, impoverished, black, and devastated by a natural disaster?
Could the past record of the American Red Cross be the reason it is not mentioned?
I agree with the assessment that bringing GWB into this only helps to rehabilitate his reputation. I find this completely objectionable. Randall Robinson, founder of TransAfrica and author of An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President, stated today on Democracy Now that Bush was responsible for destroying Haitian democracy in 2004 when he and American forces abducted President Aristide and his wife, taking them off to Africa.
Robinson was also critical of Clinton, stating that he has largely sponsored a program of economic development that supports the idea of sweatshops. He went on to state that Aristide’s party is still prohibited from participating in electoral process although it is the largest party in Haiti.
When is your quote from?
If and when you can execute a perfect disaster response, let me know. Otherwise, you’re playing sage investor (or is it cynical critic) over an organization that is almost all volunteer, and trying to hold it to accountability standards of a much smaller entity, or a corporation. The Red Cross laid off 12,000 workers this year, I’m sure that made them a lot more ready to do the faultless job you demand. Interviews with a dozen volunteers leaves out the interviews not done with the other 1 million volunteers, now doesn’t it?
Listen very, very carefully, because this is something you may not know about disasters:
The five stages of grief are: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. The news media covers disasters for immediacy, when you see the shock and numbness that marks the first stage. They love the anger stage because there is lots of room for pundits to cover controversy and politicals to rant on what’s wrong with the system.
By the time any of the rest of the responses come along, they’re long gone, having inflicted maximum damage on all the relief organizations, and caring little for between disaster operating costs. Everybody gets angry during disasters. Everybody complains. Everybody sees something that they think should be done differently. All disasters have screw ups. Not all of it means anything except “grief — stage 2″. Except to those who do disasters. They have to do the “lessons learned” and deal with the usual donation-free period of preparation for the next disaster.
Letterman used to joke that the public would fawn all over him, then ask: “Can I have your autograph, Regis?”
Bush and Obama. Will the Haitian people know which one is which?
Can Americans tell the difference anymore?
I’m waiting for W’s mom to weigh in on just how good the Haitians have it right now.
“God help the people of Haiti and the people of the United States of America.”
I give us a year, maybe less, before we ARE Haiti, fflambeau.
Good one Ernestinebass!
It Takes a Pillage
Just like Rahm, Rubin & Summers are to “change we can make believe in” when it comes to Wall Street’s cannibalism of the regular economy, W is the perfect choice for a Katrina response to Haiti’s catastrophe.
This year’s midterm election will be either an endorsement or rejection of the George W. Obama administration’s outcomes.
Meanwhile, the Heritage Foundation has big plans for the Cheney Doctrine’s future in Haiti.
With third of Haiti’s nine million people injured, homeless or dead — Naomi Klein was right. This is disaster capitalism at its worst.
I’m so disgusted with Obama. He squashes any investigations of Bush’s neo-con war crimes, and then helps him to rebrand as some kind of do-gooder in Haiti?
I’ve gotten so that I can no longer stand the site of Obama, … can’t watch his interviews anymore, … what a disappointment he’s been.
Great post. recommended.
Good, good. Focus your anger. Feel your anger. Keep it pinned on disgust at the Obama administration. And not at the only major website with no fundraising appeal to help Haiti right now.
FDL’s journey to the dark side is almost complete.
Give us a break Ondelette.
Do you really think that Jane Hamsher is somehow trying to stifle relief efforts in Haiti by not having numerous messages linking to the Red Cross or other disaster agencies here? Do you really think that most of the readers here (at one of the most literate of web sites) are unaware of the disaster and don’t know how to provide money/goods to Haiti?
Your series of posts here are amongst the dumbest I’ve seen.
Okay. You get a break. I’m dumb. You know totally about fundraising and about anger in disasters. Except for how to maximize donations. A pact with Grover Norquist to raise support for the site’s health care initiative is a good thing, having GWB raise funds to get money together for Haiti is a bad thing. I totally understand.
Here’s something else for you to chew on Ondelette, also from Amy Goodman over at Democracy Now. She interviews Randall Robertson, a visiting prof. at Penn State’s law school and author of An Unbroken Agony: Haiti, from Revolution to the Kidnapping of a President.
From that interview at Democracynow:
Do you see now why bringing Bush in for anything related to Haiti is a mistake?
If one more distraught mother,or one more bleeding child ,or one more burried in the rubble,scared to death individual will be helped,It makes not one difference to me who is doing the helping. Look at the faces of those poor victims.Do you think they care one damn about American politics .This is the same political dribble that happened after Katrina.There is a whole world separate from politics.Shame on you.
right on ondelette,this bullshit is really getting bad on the lake!
Ondelette, Amy Goodman over at DemocracyNow explains why Obama’s pick of Bush to have anything to do with Haiti is a bad idea:
Nice to see that you dropped the nonsense about this web site not supporting relief efforts in Haiti, too. And if fund-raising for that country is your top priority, is Bush really the best man that Obama could find for that? How about the “Sage of Omaha” who’s a good friend of Obama’s? You also fail to see that Obama is giving Bush a chance (which he desperately needs) to burnish his image. Why do that after what Bush did to this country (and to Haiti as Amy Goodman points out). Yes, your position on this is dumb.
I thought my concession would be enough, apparently you don’t think so.
Let me be perfectly clear. It doesn’t matter who raises funds for relief efforts. Are there other choices of people? Sure. Will GWB be able to twist some arms and get some money raised? Yes.
I emailed firedoglake a couple of times trying to get a contribution button or some links put up. I gave them the location of the American Red Cross page for drop-in buttons (I had that piece of information because I happened across it on their page, I didn’t have the others), but there are such things for several relief organizations. I’ve put up comments asking where such things are on those diaries or posts that seemed relevant, yours being one of them.
After more than one comment seen in the diaries and posts like the one by frang @8, I feel that perhaps you aren’t so super literate that you really know what is important, and you really are so political that the American politics matters more than the helpless people. In particular, I know, because of the information in it, that frang‘s quote is from Katrina/Rita at the latest, i.e. 5 years ago. You may not know this, but most major relief organizations go through huge assessments and lessons learned after major disasters and correct problems. Apparently frang didn’t, or believes all such problems should be justification for never donating to some relief organization ever again, and instead spending the time badmouthing American politicians.
And apparently you aren’t so literate as to understand what I was saying in my comment @9, or at least you give no indication of it. I know what I said there from working on (much smaller) disasters. Goofy stuff happens that you never wanted to happen and you didn’t think would happen. I personally know of disasters in which cars were lost, for reasons you couldn’t possibly imagine, except that they don’t indicate any bad faith or misuse of anyone’s donations. You know what? The complaining volunteer may not know it, but sometimes they are found again a week later. I personally have background checks with my fingerprints on file at the county sheriff’s office for my medical certs, too.
Don’t be so sure you know how dumb I am, at least I know about keeping eyes on the prize. And in a disaster, that’s all about helping people, not about who was an asshole as president.
Full disclosure I am a member of one relief organization and a volunteer at another one, and a monthly contributor to two more and a this event contributor to another two that are providing relief and will provide development for this earthquake. However, the opinions I am stating here are my own, not theirs, and I will not name them and do not speak for them.
Where to begin with your diatribe, Ondelette which simply doesn’t address any of the points I raised?
I have never once questioned the need for help and assistance to Haiti. Far from it. I want people who are really qualified to help out. My point from day one is that George W. Bush isn’t the best person to be a co-leader of the American humanitarian effort to that country. He and his father, as shown by the information from Democracynow, undermined democracy and helped to lead that nation to a position of servitude that it now occupies. You didn’t address that at all. Why is that? You skirt by my point that others are far more qualified to raise money than W is, with a “sure”.
Again the question is: why did Obama chose that man, who harmed Haiti, to be a fundraiser for a disaster program when there are others out there who would be better suited? In your lengthy diatribe, you never answer that simple and fundamental question.
I’m glad you are a contributor to volunteer organizations. That’s good work. But to attack this web site because it doesn’t have numerous buttons to contribute to the Haitiian relief effort is complete nonsense. There are lots of diaries here talking about the situation in Haiti. There are diaries here pointing out that giving for relief is important. AND: it’s almost impossible to turn on the t.v., open a newspaper, or look at news on the internet WITHOUT seeing coverage of the situation in Haiti and how one can contribute to the effort. In short, there is no shortage of information on this subject out there so why should this web site do what you want?
If you feel so strongly about it, why not set up your OWN web site for the relief of Haiti and then you can have all the links you want to relief organizations.
This web site is for political discussions, or have you not noticed? But please understand the role that the Bush family has played in Haitiian affairs before you attack me. If you knew something of the history of Haiti, and something of the history of the Bush family and their workings with Haiti, you might understand why I question Obama’s picking him.
I am well aware of the history of the Bush family and the history of Haiti.
I told you why I was trying to drum up support for putting something on this site, and why I made the comment on your diary, and why I got upset with what was said here. I don’t need a lecture on what to do on the internet, and I’m fully aware that I can go do what I want elsewhere. I think the powers that be here should do more, especially given all the fundraising they do for other reasons. They could do a powerful job. Maybe, in a way, that’s my choice for who should be raising funds instead of George W. Bush.
For somebody who claims so much work experience in relief efforts, it strikes me that you’re spending an awfully lot of time here bellyaching about this website and its owner when you could be doing something in Haiti or for the relief effort especially now.
This is not a relief website. It’s a political website. The people who come here are well aware of the problems in Haiti and are as concerned as any about what’s happening. They know how to give to the relief effort. If you were so aware of the Bush family’s history in Haiti, then why is it that you are still such a boster for George W and Obama’s appointment of him? His family helped rape and plunder Haiti and now you want him involved in some fund raising? Give me a break. Give us all a break and leave if you don’t like the website.
You’ve had numerous oppportunities to answer this question but keep evading it: Again the question is: why did Obama chose that man, who harmed Haiti, to be a fundraiser for a disaster program when there are others out there who would be better suited? In your lengthy diatribe, you never answer that simple and fundamental question.
Why, if you’re really concerned about the people of Haiti.
I very rarely come here anymore because of the poison and hate spewing from this site anymore What happened to people here?
The people who dare to call themselves progressive have no idea what being a real progressive is about But, I will give you a hint: It is not about trashing people and using nothing but negative energy to advance your ideas. And it certainly is not about purity tests and living in a dream world where you assume ‘only if we push our agenda then people will see just how smart and right we are’
Seems to me alot of very young and rash thinking going on. Not deep thinking. Not substantive thinking. Alot of posturing and pretending and rash thinking.
This is about a tragedy and people dying. Dead bodies piled high in the streets and next to you while you are trapped in the rubble with a leg or arm pinned down. No food or water and 90 degree temps making that decomposing body smell really bad.
This is about children dying. About an 11 year old girl lying next to dead body of an aunt for 2 days and finally being freed up last night only to die while in the make shift clinic because they don’t have the supplies to treat her grave injury to her leg. An injury that in the states would not have found that child dead today.
You stomp your spoiled foot because you don’t approve of someone who has the connections to get money and supplies to these people.
What is the matter with you?
So the hell what if Bush is fundraising. This is one of the worst disasters on record. Over 100,000 died. Maybe 200,000. People who are so poor that they live on a dollar a day and now have this hell to deal with and your petty little purity tests and spoiled self serving minds can only focus on how much you hate someone.
Grow the hell up!
And look in the fkg mirror while trying to say that only the rightwing doesn’t have a heart.
Right.
There is alot more in life then your petty and narrow little world. there is alot more then stupid politics going on right now.
There is death and suffering and people who don’t give a damn about your purity and being oh, so nouveau progressive.
Great post! What we should all be doing at Firedoglake is kissing the Dem’s asses like they are the be all/end all of the progressive world! Don’t ever question ANYTHING, because hey, that worked out so swell under the previous administration. Forcing your leaders to change policies, and ideals, is a terrible way to do things. We should all just accept everything tossed at us and move on. Nothing to see here. How very Rethuglican of you. See, that’s what is wrong with progressives. They complain and try to change things, when in fact they should just blindly cheerlead. As for Bush being chosen by Obama? Sure, why not pick one of the world’s most depised leaders of the 20th century, to go see what his foreign policies have caused, eh? Hey, maybe he’ll walk amongst the natives and crack a couple real funny jokes!
Obama immunizes Bush- and all of his leftovers. Hear no evil, see no evil kind of thing. It is cover for Obama too, not returning America to a standard of justice and enforcement by going after them and doing the bidding of his benefactors. A rather disgusting melding/meshing, a normalizing of the incredible sordid actions of American political leadership. They are on the same shadow team. The corporate team.
Clinton too. I remember the Telecommunications Act giveaway to corporations and of course, the school uniforms.
I think most of the politicians are the same. Politicians profess differences. They blame the “other side” to excuse their own inaction and shortcomings.
Despite the campaign promises, We’re still in Iraq and Afghanistan. To my horror the same people fleecing the country under bush are doing business as usual under Obama, he has quite a few working in his administration. War profiteers are still profiting. Banks and wall-street are doing business as usual. CEO’s are still selling off and dismantling American industry for their compensation and severance packages, leaving ruin and despair in their wake. Congress is still working for lobbyists instead of constituents. When you vote democrat and republican the only differences you will realize from who wins the elections are those that wont cut into corporate profits. The puppeteers win every time, not the American people. The main notable difference between Bush and Obama is one of them is an intelligent man who uses tact instead of in your face “i dont care” attitude. Neither are delivering for the American people. I’m starting to think Bush and Obama work for the same entity.
I think Obama’s invitation to allow bush participation is to help repair and cover up the bush image for history. What should have been an opportunity for introspective house cleaning, a case study in absolute disaster and failure of our political system, war crime trials, is instead an opportunity for bush to repair his reputation for history.
fflambeau– thanks for posting on this. Instead of (Obama) pushing for investigations much less prosecution of torture, renditions, WMD lies, cooked intelligence to justify war, forged documents, illegal felony outing of a CIA employee, etc., it looks like the latest war criminal in residence will be carrying on more business as usual, continuing the illegal occupations with a troop surge, increasing drone attacks and expansion into Pakistan and Yemen. Continuity of government – Bush – COG Gates – COG – Obama.
Revision of history continues apace. Good pr of public, humanitarian service to rebrand the most corrupt.
Discussion of the questions of legitimacy, morality or hypocrisy of Bush or even Clinton to lead relief efforts for Haiti is not done to hinder or in any way delay help for the Haitian people. I was in Haiti during Papa Doc’s reign. It seemed a pall hung over the land. The grinding poverty and sadness was pervasive. The very urgency of the current situation is reason enough to question who is put in charge. Would we want “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job”, in charge of the next Katrina, here? With a combined 16 years in (executive) office between them, Bill and George have had more than a decade and a half to extent their helping hand to Haiti. Had aid not so often been obstructed or blocked, maybe there would be more of an infrastructure to get help to where it it most needed now.
While Clinton and W. both have access to people with money, (what W. refered to as his base), I also question a repeat of the tsunami relief and other fundraisers. Who will have access to the huge pools of money to be raised? I do remember many tsunami and Katrina victims complaining of receiving no help whatsoever even a year or more after the disasters occurred though record amounts of money were donated. Similar generosity after Sept. 11th, yet many 9/11 first responders had trouble getting any help, some dying before ever getting medical care. I’m not saying anyone was skimming off any of the funds, but it does cross my mind. Even if 100% of any funds raised do go to relief efforts, it could put Bush and Clinton in charge of how the $$ will be spent. Philanthropy 101- good p.r. and a controlling interest.
Well, to Obama’s credit, even when he has pushed for some positive change, such as closing Guantanamo, not enough congressional Dems were there to back him up. Maybe not enough average Americans either.
Just one example of elder Bush and Clinton largesse:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×2798911
Seems time after time the American people are victimized by their own leaders. A good life and respect for people’s needs seems increasingly impossible. Too many predators with power and no fear.
They are too goddamn busy building bullshit intellectual arguments to prove how fucking smart they are.
I do believe Obama’s trying to rehabilitate Geo. W Bush’s image. All that nasty torture stuff won’t look so bad if George does something the public perceives as positive, and then Obama can keep “looking forward.”
Do you think the people in Haiti will remember the kids killed in Waco or Ruby Ridge. NO. I do though. Bush can raise money to help. Leave politics out.