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Rare Earth – Hey Big Brother
There I was, watching Keith Olbermann on “Countdown”. He was talking to the great reporter from HuffPo, Amanda Terkel. Not having cable tee vee, I was watching Current TV through the “FOK Society” link. Keith is better than ever, edgy and snarky,
The FOK presumably stands for Friends of Keith. It is a website I discovered and thought interesting enough to Post diaries there. I do not think Keith is officially part of FOK. But he is their inspiration for “THE progressive home”. FOK asks for people to supply unique content, which I did with several Posts.
FOK Society is a new, non profit social network, dedicated to giving progressives a safe space to socialize, have fun, support Keith Olbermann’s new Current TV venture and discuss liberal solutions to our nation’s great problems!
We are constantly striving to provide our members with the latest in news, content, live feeds, functions and features, in order to make FOK Society THE progressive home! So check back often and if you have an idea or suggestion to help improve our service, if you would like to volunteer as a moderator or would like to create unique content for our site, please see below for the different ways you can contact us.
The FOK Society does want to be the “Progressive Home”. But they could use a few more progressive Posts about the Tar Sands protests, and Eric Schneiderman and Wikileaks, Those interested in Posting at FOK can sign up and watch KO through their link to Current TV.
But I was BANNED! Liz Tyler, who claims to be a “former Republican”, banned me from the “progressive home”. It was not because of bad language, or name calling or lack of manners. But it may have been my attitude, toward the current Obama Administration. The reason I was banned remains undisclosed to me but obviously I offended supporters of the President. Liz was part of the 2008 Obama campaign and perhaps she is still with OFA.
The Post in question, was published at FDL on Monday, “Barack Obama Channels The Mythology Of George Bush To Celebrate The 9-11 Attacks”. It had some recognition as it competed with a number of excellent Posts. I dissected the Saturday Radio Address by the President. This was a speech about 9-11, and honoring the sacrifices made by many that day.
But it is the same speech we have heard for ten years. Honor the troops. Honor the first responders. Honor our fearless chickenhawk leaders who have created a Police State and endless wars from terror mongering. This is a pathetic explanation and an insult to all of us who have had to pay and suffers for illegal wars.
After ten years, we are told by Obama this brought out the best in America. But the truth is, it has brought out the worst, government deception, torture, a Neo-conservative Gestapo that serves the multinational corporations. Obama has continued all the coverups. The Obama Director of Coverups, Cass Sunstein has promised to suppress inconvenient criticism of the government and corporations. Of course the corporations are the government.
It is not easy to discuss 9-11. It is among the most controversial topics to discuss. In general, Posts that are about National Security topics tend to be less popular than those about domestic issues. They get less comments and the research is more difficult for obvious reasons. The US Government makes everything a secret. But it carries on an “Full Spectrum Information Dominance War” against antiwar dissenters. The topic of 9-11 attacks is carefully monitored by the Secret Political Police. Reporters who investigate 9-11 are themselves investigated. Cass Sunstein, appointed by OBama, has even described how to censor 9-11 information and vilify those who discuss the Topic That Shall Not Be Named: 9-11 Inside Job.
But 9-11 has brought out the best in America. The best are the antiwar dissenters, the whistleblowers, the truth tellers, and the people who fight for peace and justice. These people are targeted by the Obama Administration. Bradley Manning was tortured and declared guilty by the President. His illegal indefinite detention continues. Dan Choi and others are imprisoned and selectively prosecuted for peaceably protesting an evil Oil Shale pipeline. Marc Emery remains a political prisoner, at least for a thousand more days. This is a very incomplete list of people who are persecuted and prosecuted by a corrupt corporate establishment, just the same as they targeted Martin Luther King Jr.
I must also confess I have been banned from Daily Kos. They still have my homepage. But I cannot participate in the DK community. They never told me what my infraction is and I have tried to get reinstated. Please, Please, DK take me back!
But BANNED AGAIN! How can I explain this to my Twitter followers? My Post disappeared and I disappeared from FOK. Oh, the inhumanity, unable to be part of the Progressive Home.
But It is not totally disappeared. Liz Tyler is now misrepresenting me as a Teabag Troll. She actually reposted “Barack Obama Channels The Mythology Of George Bush To Celebrate The 9-11 Attacks”. Republican Liz used my Post without the title and without the author attribution. Liz slandered me by calling me a “troll”. I am a lifelong Democrat, radical environmentalist, and semi-pro leftist. I am not and have never been affiliated with “the Tea Party”, except to mock it. I am called “Banned Memeber” by a Republican. Get it? Meme-ber. Liz, stop stealing my original content.
So why was I banned? Liz will not say other than to insult and slander me. But here are some unfair and unbalanced comments from her. Not one fact from my Post was used. I was not allowed to defend myself.
Frank… the consensus has been formed and based on the response to you here and the amount of concerned messages that I’ve received about you… you have been labeled the false progressive that hides your tea party disease… you m’dear are a TROLL!
You gave yourself away in several different places and I’m not going to point them out because I want you to make the same mistakes at the next place you go so you can so quickly and easily expose yourself again… lol
I give myself away in several places but Liz does not say which. Liz you are not exposing anything except that you are part of OFA.
But I will share with you the most telling way that you exposed yourself… how you only focused on Obama as the ill that is our govt… you only point out the critical and negative that people have to say about Obama… you’re focus as the only GOP critique goes all the way back to Ronald Reagan… that is a MAJOR tip off as we all know that if ol’ Ronnie came down from on high to run again in the GOP field… the Tea Party would smear some jam on him and eat him up whole… lol
The other stuff that you “slipped” up on… you’re just going to have to figure out for yourself but you Frank are a TOTAL fraud!!!
My Post focused on the President was because it was his speech I was deconstructing. His own words are a disgrace. I gave myself away by only criticizing Republicans since Ronbo? I do not even understand this statement. Ronald Reagan is always praised by Obama. Obama even referred to Reagan to support his Big Debt Deal except Reagan never balanced any budgets.
As progressive… we’re getting sick and tired of people that allow their personal mental illnesses and mania’s to distract form our terrific problems… one man didn’t bring us here and didn’t do it overnight… it’s going to take us years to undo the damage of the GOP EVIL greed and we know this…
Liz should know. She is, or was a Rethuglican. As for the mentally ill, I do not believe that Liz is qualified to make that diagnosis. Of course the Administration calls antiwar protesters and Oil Shale protesters and Torture protesters, Fucking Retarded.
You have two choices Frank… you can leave of your own accord or you can be banned… I don’t know if I made this clear or not… but we have a ZERO troll tolerance policy! I will give you to the end of today for this self serving dignity to be able to say that you left of your own free will… but if when I come back tonight… if you are still here… you will be banned!
I would call that one choice. The Progressive Homey Liz Tyler joins Total Information Awareness! Liz did introduce a phrase that is new to me, “angry left”. Maybe OFA uses that to describe the fucking retarded dissenters.
Oh and btw… THIS is what the “angry” left looks like and not that total bullshit troll dreck up there!!!!
Liz is a liar and has slandered me and stole my original content without proper attribution. That was a mistake. She will receive a sternly worded message from me, if I can figure out how to logon. I may even e-mail Keith Olbermann to let him know that FOK censored my Post, slandered and banned me for no reason.
END OBAMA’S WARS! END OBAMA’S TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH! STOP THE TAR SANDS PIPELINE!
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boo to anyone who bans a blogger for telling the truth about Obama. But I suspect as we get closer to 2012 we will see more of that. Thanks for sharing Frank
Thank you.
I’ve been banned from DK too. It’s not worth it.
You’re right, they are wrong, and in time they will be on your side.
No one ever said being a firebagger would be easy…
LoL. There is something hilarious about the FOK site turning out to essentially be a corporatist conservative front.
These days, it seems like dang near all of Obama’s most obnoxious die-hards claim to be former Republicans. I guess that’s why they all seem to act just like the Bushies used to.
Thanks for the heads up … one place I won’t even bother with.
also banned from dk
it’s a badge of honor at this point
Frank33 – I read your original post here – and was saddened by it – I had to agree with your analysis, though I want a different president than the one we have – I want the one I voted for. We still have a country which praises the military and the police, and forgets the peaceful contributions made every day. I was “banned” from a FaceBook account for suggesting that we offer our thanks to more than just the “veteran” for our way of life, but also to our teachers, our coaches, environmentalists, yes, even our lawyers. No, the right says, we are great because, and only because, we are mighty. Such a sad thought.
Banned ?
This is what the establishment jock sniffers do,Corporate Progressive.They are not progressives they pretend to be for a paycheck,got to keep the “delinquents” in line on behalf of the DNC,an arm of the Corporations.
Dont worry there is no shortage of political forums online. ANd most are just echo chamber clubs as you may have noticed since you were banned for not getting on their bandwagon.
Its rather ironic that people claiming to be fighting for equality turn around and boast that ‘this is an privately owned site, we can do anything that we want, including banning you!’
Nice way for these people to show how privatizing everything is not a good idea by showing us by example. I bet if these political forums become more popular these sites will start charging for posting privileges. I am sure that is the future, since some sites already expect you to pay for an membership to their for profit sites. What exactly does the money buy? Secret forums? They have adds everywhere so it couldnt be money for running the sites.
This is what I find funny to no end: anti-Capitalist people sending money to an capitalist running a website. It brings a smile to my lips every time I hear those same people complain about rich people, on sites provided by rich investors to make money off of anti-Capitalists. Its just too poetic and ironic and just funny as hell.
I guess when you’ve got nothing of substance, you go with the ad hominems.
Authoritarians brook no dissent make bad mods, but, great cheerleaders.
At a certain point people who gain even the slightest glimpse of the inside of the beltway become glamoured by it and join in the insular, incestuous game the insiders themselves play. It’s just another facet of the corruptive nature of power.
OFA was consumed by the victory and turned into yet another soulless piece of Democratic Party machinery. The same thing will happen with DK’s “Netroots Nation,” eventually, and more than likely anybody else who wants to feel included by the beltway insiders. After all, access is necessary in order to make one’s voice heard, but it’s seductive and easy to start viewing access as the end rather than the means for change. It’s a dangerous play for power that all too often the people who start out with good intentions fall victim to.
Lets give the Professional Left Lawyers a shout out! Many attorneys are damn fine folks and several helped me out with some difficult problems. Speaking of legal issues,
I think with Keith I’d stress the unattributed plagiarism angle.
As an author and journalist he can’t be in favor of that.
“Time Marches On”. I have stopped watching the cable tee vee. But I enjoyed the New KO UNPLUGGED! Liz Tyler you took away my Keith! Now I am part of the ANGRY LEFT. I want my Keith. I did notice the FOK is a “nonprofit”. So my taxes are helping to fund Liz Tyler’s little progressive police force.
Anyone have linkies to the New COUNTDOWN?
DU and KOS will begin banning all that post anything critical of Obama beginning with posts after this Christmas.
I was banned after I quit DU long ago, and was actually banned in 2008 for supporting Hillary over Obama – and I have refused to accept the “unbanning” that followed.
The DNC wants only progressive sites that are fans of the current choice of the establishment. And DU sold out years ago before Kos, but Kos sold out in 08.
FDL is a bit unique as “mainstream” AND “issue based progressive” – you can get issue based sites but the crowd is small and expertise limited.
Sorry to see FOK go down the DU/KOS path.
Here ye goe… http://www.youtube.com/user/MiniRtist
Maybe FDL should have a “I was banned” section. It seems a progressive is banned from ObamaBot sites every other day!
“Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me?”
Who cares? Why associate yourself with Obamabots? They’re the same as Dittoheads. Only the flavor is different. No loss.
It certainly is…
Because it is time to attack in any way you can. Some people pretend to be “progressive”. They should not be allowed to be gatekeepers, using censorship.
Also, the OFA mindset is fascinating in a dysfunctional type of way.
And most of all, Liz Tyler overreacted. She disappeared me. Then she tried to exploit my “intellectual property”. That will not stand.
My actions do not compare with the 500 people arrested, 500 heroes arrested for opposing Obama’s Sand Tar Pipeline. But it gives me the chance to say the best people in America are among these 500.
Frank, you and I haven’t always seen eye to eye but I don’t disagree with anything you said in that comment. Fighting Liz Tyler may be gratifying and she undeniably needs taking down a notch but I tend to avoid people like that. It boots nothing to debate with a creationist and only adds to your stress level and are these people really any different than they are? You’ll have to do what Frank33 sees as best and I’ll do what I think is the most efficient use of my time. Though I won’t spend my time in a fruitless quest to take down John Aravosis, (who needs it much more than Liz Tyler imo), I’ve got your back. Do what you feel is right and good. :)
That is very nice of you to say so. And I got your back, metaphorically. Though I am sure you can do serious damage to the opposition all by yourself.
“This is what I find funny to no end: anti-Capitalist people sending money to an capitalist running a website. It brings a smile to my lips every time I hear those same people complain about rich people, on sites provided by rich investors to make money off of anti-Capitalists. Its just too poetic and ironic and just funny as hell.”
See that above where there is an link in “MAKE MONEY” ??
I did not put it there!!!
It would seem that the chicken shit mods did not want my voice to be heard, so they framed me by putting Spam in my posts and then deleted my blog for SPAM, what fucking assholes!
I hope all of you enjoy youselfs being lied to by rich people running an faux Progressive website.
years a go I said Fuck the Right! well now I say Fuck the Right and fuck the Left!
And BTW Fuck you Bill and Theresa, you showed me exactly why Anarchists hate Socialist’s, bwhaha told you that you really did not know me :P
wow.
I’ve never seen that site, but I’ve never heard of them or that liz person so I did a search and landed on this page
Incompetent Moderating Over at Current Site Regarding Trolls
Seems they were trying to get the admins to purge the trolls at current tv, one of them got themselves banned too.
They are authoritarians and control freaks. They want to control the debate and define the bounds of discussion, much like the roving gangs of Obama cultists that ruin discussion at dkos, turning every sub thread of every thread into red-herrings.
Why you would beg for your membership back I don’t know why, unless you are a masochist. Read this book: The Authoritarians by Bob Altemeyer (free) and watch ko here: http://www.thertv.eu/?p=22
I am banned at kos too, but I only had one discussion that even resembled a conversation. No loss. It’s nothing but frustration. Can’t teach pigs to sing and all that. I just go visit from time to time to measure the level of epistemic closure after Zero’s colossal blunders.
lol.. the “angry left” ;)
Do you know who else hates the left?
The unabomber. just sayin’.
Countdown is shown daily here: http://www.thertv.eu/ at 8pm eastern and repeated at 11pm, 2am 7am and 2pm.
You can also catch rachel and other good stuff for free.
Remember, Keith ain’t a firedog, he’s a Kossack.
I was banned at DKOS also, sorta. I can’t post there unless I remove a hide rate I deservedly gave to a jerk and completely under the rules. I was actually defending the Secretary of Labor and the Diarist who was writing about her attempts to end the practice of companies getting around the requirement that serious attempts be made to hire Americans before resorting to H1b (foreign) workers. The diary showed evidence of an industry that has grown up for the specific purpose of helping companies evade that law.
There is (or was) a large contingent of H1B workers at DK and they suddenly flocked to this diary with insults screams of racism – although race had not been mentioned in either the Diary or any of the 75 or so comments at that time. So as was my responsibility as a trusted user [TU] I HRed (two more HRs than recs and a comment is hidden from all but TUs) a couple of the more egregious comments. The offender found one of his compatriots who was an admin and got me banned. I tried to fight it, pointing out that what I had done was entirely within the rules and refused to remove the HR. So I’m Outta there. Since It took effect immediately, I had no opportunity to make my case to fellow Kossacks and explain my sudden disappearance.
Most imported IT workers are from one country, but it wouldn’t matter if they were all lily-white Australians or Irish. The point was that the law says that Americans (of whatever race) have to get first crack at American jobs and that American corporations were learning how to evade that law to import cheaper foreigners. And that they had been successfully getting away with it.
So I no longer post there. Ironic that I was effectively banned for defending one of the few progressives in the Obama administration, Hilda Soliz.
After my ban, I did some googling and learned that Markos is CIA and some other interesting things about him. I won’t link, because some of the info out there is questionable at best; I wouldn’t know what to endorse. But if you scout around, your treatment may make a bit more sense.
One reason I never tried to go back is that there are wolf packs there that know the rules and how to exploit them to get real progressive dissent pushed outside. And they seem to operate unchecked.
Seems to be getting out of control there now, though. Diaries from “fucking retards” are topping the rec list with some regularity despite the best effort of the Obamabots. But they have to tread VERY carefully.