27 Responses to Define Interrogation .

1. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 11:56 am 1

   http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33018.htm

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2. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 12:52 pm 2

   Interrogation: Forcing another person to tell you what you want to hear.

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3. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 1:00 pm 3

   In response to doremus35 @ 2

   Hey but it creates jobs in a bad economy .

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4. wendydavis November 15th, 2012 at 1:20 pm 4

   We’ve been discussing some of the deeper stories on Larue’s last two posts, and Emptywheel has also. (Check the Latest Posts list on the right side.) Many conjectures, but it may yet prove some truths about a military and a militarized intelligence agency run amok. We can hope. Thanks for embedding the video; mainly we had to click into it. ;o)

   I dunno about that memo, but OBomba told either the Times or WaPo that he’s redefined renditions in terms of ‘length of time’. If it’s ‘short’, it’s not rendition. Pretty Kingly, eh wot? If you make me, I’ll dig up the diaries with the quotes…) ;o)

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5. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 2:18 pm 5

   In response to freeman @ 3

   The ratlines spoke volumes about full employment in a police state.

   Somehow that solution is not in the best interest of all of the American people.

   Nicht wahr?

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6. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 2:35 pm 6

   Ja, alles ist jetzt ganz klar mensch .

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7. chebetts November 15th, 2012 at 4:35 pm 7

   Alles klar mit dir?! freeman, have you read Benjamin Freedman’s speech in 1961? Makes for an interesting story.

   I don’t think you have to worry though, I believe there are unseen forces at work for “both” sides, even though we are, one and the same.

   Keep on truckin’ with a smile….

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8. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 5:55 pm 8

   In response to freeman @ 6

   Guten Tag mein Freund. Wie geht es dir?

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9. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 6:08 pm 9

   In response to chebetts @ 7

   Pferdemist. Sie machen es wieder!

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10. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 7:05 pm 10

    Did they (or the horse) really ever stop doing it, doremus ?

    http://archive.truthout.org/bagram-obamas-secret-penal-colony56981

    NYT/WashPost: Torture in Obama’s Bagram Prison
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/28/808755/-NYT-WashPost-Torture-in-Obama-s-Bagram-Prison#

    http://costsofwar.org/article/detention

    Lesser evilism to the rescue !

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11. wendydavis November 15th, 2012 at 7:16 pm 11

    In response to freeman @ 10

    Sigh. Not to butt in since I’m not of the male persuasion, but this is far more current.

    The day before the executive orders were issued, the C.I.A.’s top lawyer, John A. Rizzo, had called the White House in a panic. The order prohibited the agency from operating detention facilities, closing once and for all the secret overseas “black sites” where interrogators had brutalized terrorist suspects.

    “The way this is written, you are going to take us out of the rendition business,” Mr. Rizzo told Gregory B. Craig, Mr. Obama’s White House counsel, referring to the much-criticized practice of grabbing a terrorist suspect abroad and delivering him to another country for interrogation or trial. The problem, Mr. Rizzo explained, was that the C.I.A. sometimes held such suspects for a day or two while awaiting a flight. The order appeared to outlaw that.

    Mr. Craig assured him that the new president had no intention of ending rendition — only its abuse, which could lead to American complicity in torture abroad. So a new definition of “detention facility” was inserted, excluding places used to hold people “on a short-term, transitory basis.” Problem solved — and no messy public explanation damped Mr. Obama’s celebration.

    “Pragmatism over ideology,” his campaign national security team had advised in a memo in March 2008. It was counsel that only reinforced the president’s instincts.

    Not to be a blog whore (oh; okay, I am), but…it spawned a two part series. Second was on the Disposition Matrix.

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12. DWBartoo November 15th, 2012 at 7:21 pm 12

    In response to doremus35 @ 9

    If wishes were horses, doremusfunfunddreissig, (please forgive the missing umlaut, if you might) then “end-products” would quite fill the known universe, und so weiter, around said ‘orses of whatever “color”… and hip-boots would be the rational height of both fashion and pragmatic practicality.

    Thank you, freeman, for a most-excellent and timely post, which I recommend, without reservation, to the conscience and consideration of all good Americans, as well as those who actually understand …

    DW

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13. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm 13

    In response to DWBartoo @ 12

    If you have a beef, take it up with management!

    I’m here to comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable.

    So, who the hell spiked your birdseed today, mein lieber Freund?

    Wow, this is a new high for me: sarcasm in two languages!

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14. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm 14

    In response to wendydavis @ 11

    You mean that Doremus and chebetts are male ? Who knew ?

    Anyway, thanks for the good info Wendy and I will be sure to look at the post you linked to as well , which I’m sure is far better researched than what I have put up here and for pointing me to Larue and emptywheels posts as well .

    Sometimes It takes me a bit to respond or read other posts because I am always multi tasking and a good procrastinator to boot .

    Here’s a peace offering .

    http://freelightnow.bandcamp.com/track/san-ysidro

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15. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 7:53 pm 15

    In response to DWBartoo @ 12

    Humor is wonderful , thanks for making me laugh DW .

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16. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm 16

    In response to doremus35 @ 13

    Y usted tambien amigo , muchas gracias por su perspectiva hoy .

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17. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 8:08 pm 17

    In response to freeman @ 16

    Shucks,’ ’twas nothin’ mi buena Freund.

    Une journee splendide!

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18. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 8:11 pm 18

    In response to freeman @ 14

    “Who knew ?”

    Damn, the mustache gave me away again.

    Next time I’ll lose the ‘stache’ and keep the beard.

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19. wendydavis November 15th, 2012 at 8:13 pm 19

    In response to freeman @ 14

    Oopsie; because I know doesn’t mean you know, but…I could not resist given our history. ;o) Thanks for the gift; it may be a failing that I’m not a jazz aficionado, but I was (sadly past tense) a musician.

    OT: another my.fdl denizen would like to get in contact with you via email. If I leave a link to my address, the wait until you let me know here or by email that you’ve received it, thus can delete the link, would you like it? (Was that too incoherent to understand, lol?)

    I’ll check back; it’s Dinner Time here, and I multi-task *and* smoke MMJ now. ;o)

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20. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 8:16 pm 20

    In response to wendydavis @ 19

    Please, I have often thought the blog should include a way to send messages. Oh and don’t worry about my understanding you , I’m thumbing through the pages of my Esperanto dictionary right now !

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21. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 8:49 pm 21

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22. doremus35 November 15th, 2012 at 8:54 pm 22

    In response to DWBartoo @ 12

    It was a day from/in hell for me.

    Still like to discuss with you life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness over a few boiler makers.

    I do trust you and yours are well and enjoying the gift of life. :>)

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23. wendydavis November 15th, 2012 at 9:02 pm 23

    In response to freeman @ 20

    Yer killin’ me now, mi amigo! (check your junk box) ;o)

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24. wendydavis November 15th, 2012 at 9:07 pm 24

    In response to wendydavis @ 23

    And…er…there’s always this. A blogging amigo told me recently he’d noticed my ‘output’ was down, lol! (Plus, election season sucked and now it’s hard to know what to write…it’s not all about cannabinoids!)

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25. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 9:12 pm 25

    Damn , just read the times article you linked to and it is seriously depressing Wendy . Thanks(?) for the link .

    Uuuggghhh .

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26. freeman November 15th, 2012 at 9:13 pm 26

    In response to wendydavis @ 24

    Maybe you’ll like this tune better , it is more in keeping with the topic .

    http://freelightnow.bandcamp.com/track/liberty-in-rags

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27. wendydavis November 15th, 2012 at 9:47 pm 27

    In response to freeman @ 26

    I.love.it.

    Here is the other part. Even more hideous if possible.

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