The times call for a leader of Churchillian or Rooseveltian magnitude; what we have instead is a cautious risk-averse manager. Bold progressives must fill the leadership vacuum in order to restore and support a vibrant US middle class.
When he confronted a world-wide economic collapse not of his making last winter, BHO and his team facilitated the deployment of bailout packages to industries and financial institutions judged "too big to fail." These bailouts supplemented the TARP monies being disbursed to big banks that had been initiated by his predecessor. Though some market economists decreed that these "too big to fail" enterprises should have been allowed to do just that, the President wisely decided to immediately stop the bleeding in order to avoid catastrophic consequences down the economic "food chain" rather than hew to doctrinaire free market theories.
As banks and markets stabilized, attention turned to getting the consumer economy back on track, with arguments more or less boiling down to laissez faire versus massive government intervention. BHO’s decision to embrace modest stimulus enraged libertarians and conservatives who wanted to let the Free Market reign and disappointed progressive liberals who identified the need for a momentous government employment initiative that would restart and sustain the nation’s economic engine while preparing our infrastructure for the next generation in a changing energy environment.
BHO’s demonstrated personal need to achieve consensus during crisis and his failure to assert bold leadership on economic recovery and employment set the stage for the health care debate. In order to avoid alienating big campaign donors he allowed the playing field to shift to a focus on major health insurers and pharmaceutical companies (with their incestuous big bank brothers and sisters cheering from the sidelines). They were able, with the complicity of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, to exploit BHO’s self-imposed Christmas 2009 deadline and his apparently congenital aversion to conflict (expressed as the goal of a "bipartisan" bill, which he did not achieve anyway!).
Emmanuel believes that no crisis should be wasted (as do I!). One can forgive liberals for thinking that the crises of the last two years presented opportunities for a major overhaul of the economy and regulation (including health care), a new New Deal, an opportunity to serve the public interest. Instead, though, Emmanuel used the moment of opportunity to reward wealthy benefactors in order to ensure the continued employment of the political class. That’s his prerogative of course, but the direct result of his cynicism has been a redefinition downward of any aspirations for a renewed vibrant American middle class.
Into the resultant breach, bold progressive liberals much step. Here are some reasons:
- The White House clearly stated its desire and ability to abandon the Left. That leaves only progressive liberals standing up for the true interests of the battered middle class, working poor, and disenfranchised.
- BHO and his Chief of Staff are deathly afraid of repeating Clinton’s failure to reform HC in the 90s despite the fact that conditions today are not like those in the 90s. The lesson they failed to recognize was not that the WH had to neutralize the health insurance/pharmaceutical industry by catering to them; it was that they had to neutralize the health insurance/pharmaceutical industry by pro-actively going over their heads directly to the American people, who were primed by economic realities to accept social democratic solutions to the unsustainable US health care model.
- Progressive liberals have no obligation to march in lock step with the Democratic Party; we do have the right to use the Democratic Party as a vehicle to achieve our ends.
- Alliances with "strange bedfellows" are force-multipliers; that is, they allow us to affect outcomes we otherwise would not.



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Health care. It’s the new NAFTA:
Isn’t it ironic that Obama’s aversion to conflict will, in the end, lead to much larger conflict? (That is, provided progressives answer the call to action…)
I just heard a death knell sounding in Ohio for the Democratic Party. People hate NAFTA here.
Reverse a slide in public opinion? How about reversing a slide into joblessness, poverty, illness, homelessness, bankruptcy, loss of credit?
Great post, Gordon! It’s good to see you here, and on the Seminal Reader Wire, too!
Thanks for connecting a few of those dots so explicitly.
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I was disappointed in this one, given the title, even though I agree with the main premises and argument of this piece. First, it oversimplified the choice Obama faced with the big banks. It wasn’t a case of 1) let them fail, or 2) bail them out. There was a third alternative. To take them into resolution, control the salaries, get rid of the toxic assets, extend loans to Main Street in whatever amount the Government needed to do to get economic activity going, and then to break up the big banks and spin off the pieces to private capital once again.
Second, I think it stopped too soon. I agree that we should ally with “strange bedfellows,” to increase our influence, but I was expecting you to say much more about this in the way of outlining a strategy for doing so. Perhaps I’ll see that in your next diary.
Anyway I don’t recally seeing a diary from you before, so welcome to FDL. I’ll look forward to more.
You’ve nailed the problem exactly, Gordon… This is the classic case of bad policy making bad politics, and the willful blindness to this fact from the “left” is driving me nuts. In these oh, so important elections coming up, how are Democrats going to look if they’ve given everybody a big, expensive bill for a non-performing product? The right will call Obama and Rahm commies and never support them nonetheless, so f*cking over a lot of people on both sides to appease them is dimwitted beyond description.
Thank you all so much for visiting and commenting on this Christmas Day.
I hope you all have had a merry love-filled day among family/friends.
Jane Hamsher:
All I can say is: Oy! [with a roll of the eyes]
Jim White:
This is the antithesis of leadership.
KarenM: Thanks so much for your kind words and your endorsement.
cocktailhag: Both the House and Senate bills are dogs frankly, with or without a PO or MFA; however with the inclusion of one of those mechanisms for somewhat controlling costs, an individual mandate would be tolerable (barely). I wonder what kind of back-room “negotiations” persuaded the likes of Feingold, Franken, and Sanders to go along.
Yeah, I was disappointed too. I am guilty of oversimplification and take your points.
Regarding strategies for a new way forward and forging powerful effective alliances, I think Jane Hamsher is really onto something with her willingness to ally with people like Grover Norquist. Even though our ideologies are incompatible on most issues, that should not preclude working with him on areas in which we are in agreement.
I’ve been mulling over some more other ideas that I hope I can articulate in an upcoming diary. Do you have any thoughts along those lines?
And,… thanks for the welcome, letsgetitdone. I appreciate that.
Exactly!
That is the whole point, which Rahm, obsessed with his little reindeer games, either fails to understand or simply does not care..
Hah!
And Obama evokes neither FDR nor Lincoln.
A well-written and thought out piece.
It is true; Obama is a great orator and a cautious politician. I wonder, though if his personality fully explains the lack of real leadership.
Here is Wm. Burroughs c. 1989.
“We have a new type of rule now. Not one man rule or rule of aristocracy or plutocracy, but of small groups elevated to positions of absolute power by random pressures and subject to political and economic factors that leave little room for decisions. They are representatives of abstract forces who have reached power through surrender of self. The iron-willed dictator is a thing of the past. There will be no more Stalins, no more Hitlers. The rulers of this most insecure of all worlds are rulers by accident; inept, frightened pilots at the controls of a vast machine that they cannot understand, calling in experts to tell them which button to push.”
I return to this over and over. There will be no more LBJs, no more FDRs and no more JFKs or his relatives.
Wow.
That is definitely something to chew on.
Yet can we still hold onto hope that a charismatic compassionate person can move masses, speak truth to power, exert will against self-interested corporate “Masters of the Universe,” and overcome the dynamic elucidated by Mr. Burroughs?
I think we must.
Sorry, but this buys into the Obama mythmaking that his handlers have put out. VERY simplistic ideas presented on the economic crisis and the bailouts. Note that Obama followed exactly the same path that Bush did: Bush’s Paulson and Obama’s Geithner worked together to put together TARP. Obama pushed TARP. “Stop the bleeding” = trillions in bailouts for Wall St. and Goldman Sachs and company. Nothing for Main St. Note too the mortgage crisis (that the TARP money was supposed to be spent on) still exists and the banking/financial deregulation that helped create the financial meltdown both still exist. Obama talks out of one side of his mouth about “fat cat bankers” but out of the other side kills real financial regulation (see Bill Moyers show with interview of W. Kuttner and M. Taibbi).
Nor was Obama “seeking consensus” with his bailouts. Quite to the contrary, they were and are controversial.
Yeah, I sure gave him the benefit of the doubt on that one, didn’t I?!
Your points are well taken.
Thanks.
I don’t know if I agree that Barack Obama’s fundamental flaw his aversion of conflict.
It may be sycophancy towards power. He doesn’t have a problem throwing barbs at the left and as we saw in the campaign, he’s good at debate so he probably enjoys it.
I remember he chastised Kennedy on the senate floor but I can’t find the video.
Here are a few of him in an oppositional position
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6krf18huA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBj9mzqOIU&NR=1
He’s retracted from public ad-hoc interviews, and I think it’s defensive maneuver not because he’s afraid of confrontation, it’s that the less he says the better for maintaining a plausible deniability,
The less he says the more we pick apart the semantics because we have been lied to so much we no longer trust our government. That whole telling of “the truth, the whole truth, and noting but the truth” makes for a quite the minefield.
If you were trying to juggle more than one lover or “sugar momma/daddy”, this is exactly how you would behave. You would have to betray one.
He may also be having a problem with guilt. I think I’m seeing shamefacedness in him, but I may be projecting onto that “tabula rasa”
Nor even Hoover. Who he most resembles to me, both physically and politically is that other great sell out-Woodrow Wilson.
Whatever Rahm’s smokin’ we could solve all our economic problems if we’d let Treasury sell it.
I’m ok working with “strange bedfellows” when our interests intersect. We can agree on auditing the Fed. We’ve already seen taxpayer money going to “lobby” Ben Nelson to support this farce of a HCR bill; I think that some of those “unaccounted for” financial sector bailout funds could easily be used for that same purpose, if we don’t get some accountability. We need to audit the Fed.
O-Bots are saying “investigating Rahm, auditing the Fed etc. would only create a ‘White Water’ for Obama, making it harder for him to push his agenda”. Well, if the Obama administration wanted this thing to go smooth, they wouldn’t have taken a sh^t on the left at every turn. Besides, we might not want Obama to “push his agenda” the way he’s doing now. What’s next, putting oil companies in charge of making bio fuels? Or putting power companies in charge of making solar panels?
I don’t think we can move Obama to the left. He’s not too messed up about torture etc. that happened under the previous administration. He hasn’t “fixed” FISA. Since I don’t have any congressmen or senators to write home about, I’ll just lay out in 2010, let the republicans show him some real “bipartisanship”, and after they’ve steamrolled over Obama for a couple of years it will be easier to primary him in 2012.
Excellent first post. Here’s a NYT reporter’s take on Obama:
Debate Shows Obama Plays by Washington’s Rules
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/26/health/policy/26dems.html?_r=1&ref=politics
NYT Russ Douthat’s take.
The Obama Way by Russ Douthat
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/26/opinion/26douthat.html?ref=opinion
(Oh please don’t bring that stoopeyhead Douthat around here, okay?)
Great posst, Mr Ginsburg, please don’t be a stranger!
Equally ironic, the “man of change” has spent his whole first year propping up the status quo–exact opposite of change.
So it is Obama’s fault you are getting in bed with teabaggers? That is some twisted logic right there.
As a Poly Sci major my Profs kept hammering the point that ‘Politics does make for Strange Bedfellows’…! ;-)
Co-signing a letter to the AG constitutes getting ‘In Bed’…???
Go rec up Andiamo’s diary over at Orange — it’s somewhat inflammatory but not deserving of what it’s getting.
Huh What the Dems are believing this? We will lose in November with this belief we will lose big. Blue Dog Districts are close races even if just 5% of us Lefties stay home we can throw a close race.
The Blue Dogs are politicians they should know how to read polls and voter demographics! Ironically in a Dem +5 district we can’t swing those races so only Blue Dogs should expect to lose come election day real Dems in safe Districts will keep their jobs.
Also unless some changes are made I don’t see Unions rushing out to support anyone on election day either.
Just what voting block besides the healthcare industry supports this?
The question the Blue Dogs should ask is are Lefties and Unions a bigger voting block than the healthcare industry in my district?
Neville Chamberlain appeasing Hitler comes to mind.
The one thing on the Financial side that must be done… Reimpose Glass-Steagal…!
Regulating CDS would be nice, too…!
I looked at the poll there: the number of people who are say we should suppress dissent and (blindly) support the president is a bit scary.
Given Obama’s lack of engagement on unemployment and the High rate of African American unemployment we should be wondering if high unemployment numbers will lower African American voting numbers next election.
I’m sure that Obama will do a ton of PR appearances in the African American community however if he can’t promise good paying jobs by November we could lose bigger than Clinton did after Healthcare failed.
They are not serious — but they do hate Andiamo for his paranoia about Obama. IMHO Andiamo is cherry-picking, as the entire ruling class is going for the coming murder-suicide.
They aren’t stabilized. They just shoveled trillions to reflate bubbles in stocks and commodities. Nor can the economy with 27 million un- and under- employed be said to be back on track.
You can’t call this consensus either when progressives have not only been frozen out of any decision making but their ideas have instead been turned on their head. Yes, progressives wanted stimulus, just like they wanted healthcare, but what Obama did to both was to turn them into travesties. This is not compromise, consensus, or triangulation. Obama just borrows a little progressive rhetoric to give cover to what is otherwise a status quo corporatist agenda.
Obama is doing exactly what he wants to do. As I said in an earlier thread, he is not cautious at all. He is the guy after all who is behind the escalation in Afghanistan. His Justice department continues to issue briefs that continue and expand Presidential powers claimed by the Bush Administration. Ditto for the economy, Bush redux but even more so. No one, and I mean no one, can run on a platform of change we can believe in and then hide behind the idea that there is nothing he could really do differently anyway.
Clinton was Big Dawg, Obama is Blue Dawg. End of story.
How long is the Obama list now…? *g*
You did mention that you started one awhile back…! ;-)
Any bets when the banks would fail again or is this bailout of the insurance industry by forcing us to buy health insurance a preemptive move to stop another collapse and will it work?
BHO’s commitment to meaningful healthcare reform was suspect from the moment I learned about Michelle’s connections to the U. of Chicago Medical Center. I believe she is on “leave” from the executive board.
Personally, I think it’ll be another stressor on our consumer economy. Hopefully, the recovery will be well established before the mandates kick in.
I agree its a stressor I don’t see how the economy will improve unless Obama creates jobs we are a consumer economy either consumers have jobs and spend or we are toast.
OT, sorry.
Does Rham expect to be able to give money to the banks and mortgage companies through unaccounted billions funneled through Fannie and Freddie? Does guaranteeing 100% of their unsecured (through mindless irrational exuberance and the relentless pursuit of profit) and unsustainable losses then permit them to repossess and sell the repossessed homes of America’s middle class to themselves and their insider cronies disguised in shell companies for a nickel on a dollar? Will we all be renting from the banks’ board of directors? I’m just asking. Isn’t this basically what happened to the unsecured real estate loans made by the unregulated savings and loans under the Resolution Trust Corporation?
It will take both sides and all others to fight the establishment and corrupt Congress.
David Dayen is upstairs!
Where The Health Care Bill Goes From Here
The only thing I have to say is this is a “reach out” to some and bending over and letting the bad guy screw you over just to piss of people who you should be working with to others.
I’m sorry but that man is trash to his core and you choose to get in bed with him in order so he can use you to defeat the progressive cause.
I don’t see how this works out go for anyone in the long run because once this is over he’s just going to turn his guns on progressives and when you give him credibility on this subject then when he turns on us he’s going to have the power to hurt us even more.
For those who bought the Audacity of Hope meme, Obama’s presidential persona as a Herbert Hoover/Gerald Ford/Bill Clinton trifecta comes as an unpleasant surprise.
For those of us who expected his telecom immunity & financial services regulation betrayals while serving in the senate to continue, not so much.
I used to think Bush 43 was the equivalent of Hoover (hence my nickname for him was George W Hoover). Now I think he was the equivalent of Coolidge and Barack W Obama is the equivalent of Hoover.
And since Obama worked for Business International Corporation straight out of college, maybe that explains some of the whys for his actions after being elected.
Clinton was Big Dawg, Obama is Blue Dawg. End of story.
That’s a good one. I’ll bet you could get a decent post out of that.
The Forced mandate is PURE FASCISM.
What an irony, too!
All that emphasis on getting people to eat better, and many of them won’t be able to afford to eat even as well as they are now, once they have to buy into the so-called insurance [sic] coverage.
A less healthful diet, and insurance they won’t be able to afford to use. Wonder what Michelle would say if we started “meming” that all over the nets?
Yes unless Obama does something to help home owners but he hasn’t said anything yet. Also it keeps the the market for mortgages going kind of by preventing them from collapsing more.
Lots of foreign countries bought them thinking they were secured by the U.S government and they were not a bigger collapse of this market could kill the world financial system.
However more bankruptcies like what is happening now also weakens the system so I don’t see how Obama’s plan helps unless the economy magically gets better.
That would be the business cycle explanation the GOP/Chicago School guys believe in they hope that if the banks hold out long enough everything will magically get better.
The Villagers’ much heralded senate HCR head fake is absolutely Big Insurance & Pharma’s permanent profitability preservation while throwing women’s rights under the bus Act of 2009.
I posted a diary on the vortex of unfunded insurance & pension risk liability circling the drain of this jobless, credit collapsing economic recovery.
Count me among the less disappointed. Obama was not that high on my list of the available candidates. The bandwagon was a bit too scary for me, and I really was not at all convinced that he was either liberal or progressive.
All those “present” votes on women’s reproductive health? Granted, that’s something of a litmus test for me, but I think it’s pretty accurate. When men don’t get the impact of women’s issues, there’s a whole lot more that they also do not “get.”
And, of course, he voted for that odious FISA bill while still in the senate and as a candidate. Hillary, I must note, voted against it.
I’ve been a long time reader but short time poster and I must say that FDL has turned from a great website for the progressive cause into a freerepublic wanna be site minus the homophobia and racism.
Fighting to better the democratic party from the inside is great. That is what we need.
What we don’t need is you teaming up with people who have been trying to kill our cause for over 15 years because you are pissed off.
I’m sorry but how is trying to get every damn dem thrown out going to do because once all of the dems are thrown out we are going to be run by teabaggers.
At this point FDL is no better than teabaggers.
I know what you mean but I think it’s just pure greed.
RE: Women’s Rights under the Constitution
Joe Lieberman has an excuse, lame as it is, as an unconscionable, hubristic sociopath.
However, Barbara Boxer is emailing me for contributions to her 2010 re-election campaign, touting the fabulous benefits of this historic senate health care bill. And she’s considered to be a progressive compared with Feinenstein, California’s own corporate tool.
Poor Barbara is like Rob Reiner’s mother in When Harry Met Sally, pointing to Rahm Emmanuel at the next booth over — I’ll smoke what he’s smoking.
More diaries like this, please.
;)
Barbara has been trapped for a good while now.
Her Liberal credentials are not withstanding whatever pressure she feels to bend Harry Reid’s way. She thunders about the environment, but for her to accept the women’s health restrictions in any HC bill is both inexcusable and sadly predictable.
No excuse – she has become pretty pliable, and not to her credit.
Under the radar, Obama pushes for Patriot Act renewal
http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/12/under-radar-obama-pushes-for-patriot.html
Obama evokes Herbert Hoover.
Problem is, Barbara’s almost guaranteed re-election running against McCain’s brilliant economic campaign maven and HP corporate criminal & failure, Carly Fiorina.
She just might say “let them eat cake.”
Eli is upstairs!
Cloture Is Now Officially Meaningless
Is this what FDL is reduced to now? Explaining/defending Jane Hamsher’s hare-brained stunt?
I gotta say: I would not be happy if I were a blogger here and was now forced to do this as part of my blogging activities. Peeling potatoes would be less compromising, less of a hit on my personal autonomy/integrity.
But, we all do what we have to do, I guess.
yep
Something else from Burroughs:
“A functioning police state needs no police.”
We are not a nation of self-centered Senators, we are a nation of “the people”. The majority of “the people” wanted more than the self-centered Senators were willing to give.
Politics may be the art of the possible but being willing to accept less than is possible is never acceptable when the majority of the voters want it.
Where do they get the nerve to ask for money for being less than mediocre?
I’m sorry, but the discussion seems to have left you behind. In fact you seem to still be in the Denial stage of grieving.
Hopefully you’ll be able to move on to the bargaining stage some time in the future… like those people at dkos who are trying to bargain with the meaning of “corporatist”.
It might seem selfish of me but I hope you’ll be able to heal from Obama’s betrayals sooner rather than later… we’re going to need your help in the battles ahead.
What I don’t understand is why some liberals are more upset about Jane teaming up with GN than about Chicago-style corruption running rampant in the White House. Really. I’m not just saying that to be flippant. I really don’t get it.
Dude, Churchill didn’t collaborate.
Obama had to do something about the banks btw. The discussion is over what, not whether. It’s unfortunate that we allowed it to get to that point, but we didn’t put the brakes on and the car crashed.
But it was of his making. Or, rather, Obama is a deeply embedded component of the DLC wing of the Democratic Party that, along with Republicans and conservatives [i.e. Lindsay and Phil Gramm et al], gutted Glass-Steagall and virtually obliterated all regulation of the finance industry.
Thus this largely illusory distinction between the Democratic crony capitalists and the Republican crony capitalists needs to stop.
Again, the irony is that within the Republican Party [particularly inside the House of Representatives] there really is a divide between Libertarian conservatives and crony capitalist conservatives. Where is the equivalent inside the Democratic party.
Rahm Emanuel is the rooster who thinks every time he crows the sun comes up.
great line !
So are we to give up cause Obama sold us out I for one do not think so given the DEMS BASE which is composed of blacks,latino,women,gays,jews, and others. So we are going to roll over cause Obama cannot get his act together so we just lay down. It all needs to be sorted out,but we need to call Obama out period. I wonder JANE are you prepared and ready to do what needs to be done given what we all are faced with in this country at this time. Let the health care either be changed or go down in flames period. At same time what we going to do about the FIVE SENATORS and bluedogs and REP.
Quote: “What I don’t understand is why some liberals are more upset about Jane teaming up GN than about Chicago-style corruption running rampant in the White House. Really. I’m not just saying that to be flippant. I really don’t get it.”
As I posted elsewhere, I have less of a problem with the teaming with Grover Norquist than others do. I think it marginalizes Jane and makes her a laughingstock, but I really don’t have a problem with that. It’s her call. My problem is with the giddy manic destructiveness. She and her defenders keep harping on other “strange bedfellows” — but that only works where the bedfellows come together for a discrete, principled purpose. That is simply not the case here, with either bedfellow. There is no principle here. Just a momentarily shared desire to destroy.
And finally, when you bring up “Chicago-style corruption running rampant in the White House,” you sound like a fucking teabagger. Or a PUMA. No specific complaint — and we’ve ALL been disappointed by various decisions — but rather a howl of pain that effectively translates into: “It’s all bad! The Maoist Christmas tree ornaments! The Hawaiian vacation! Rezko! Conspiracies! Chicago style politics!”
Jesus. You know, at heart, most folks just want to follow, I guess. They want to be led and they don’t care much by whom. You can get yourself an activist, you can set up an activist site, you can write an activist manifesto, and the next thing you know you’ve got a passel of followers screaming: “Left! Right! Tell me how to march! Tell me what to think!”
Jeesus Kee-rist! :D
Oh and zapkitty? Oooh very clever, the five stages of grief! Aren’t you the lockstep kitty! “Harrup! Le-eft! Le-eft! Le-eft!”
And finally, Jane? You’ve got yourself a site full of “just tell me what to do!” morons. Is that what you wanted?
I think we got your point.
Will there be anything else? Ideas perhaps about how to swing pols back into the clutches of their constituents?
newtonusr, That would be a discussion worth having. Maybe for starters get rid of the filibuster? There’s something really wrong with one or two Senators being able to hold the entire Senate hostage. The fact that they can do that only increases the payoff for corporate lobbyists, which in turn increases the money flowing in for just that purpose.
I also heard Hendrik Hertzberg discussing “popular vote” election of the President/Vice President. Once enough states have signed on to equate to 270 electoral votes, those states would agree to cast all of their votes for whichever candidate won the popular vote. One of the immediate effects of this would be to force campaigns (and campaign money) to compete in all states and not just focus on swing states. This may become even more important depending on what the Supreme Court does with the campaign finance case.
Just wait until Obama and the Dems do a Climate/Energy bill of sorts. It will be done in the same old Big Corporate interests stay completely in charge mold. We will save (not) the polar bears by destroying remote mountain ranges in the Great Basin with giant wind farms and blading the Mojave desert bare for giant solar farms controlled by large corporate interests who will still retain a lock on energy. And it will be especially interesting because a lot of the damage that will be done will occur in Harry Reid’s state where every “green” energy Ponzi schemer to come along is good buddies with the Senator.
See http://www.basinandrangewatch.org for a taste of what is to come … and all these developers are angling for massive tax dollar subsidies to bring this about.
he is the one who made the bedfellows comment. Not me.
I am so glad to see that FDL is back!!! It’s the issues not the promises!! You have to deliver not just promise.
Sorry for taking so long to respond. The list will be at 130 when I load the latest entry in a few minutes.
TCU, I think the strategy of Team Obama is to leave the banks unreformed and to bail them out as needed. This all sounds like they are aiming at Japanification with unrealized debts weighing down the system. I often refer to this as the best case scenario. The truth is that what little positive that has occurred in the economy, outside the bubbles in stocks and commodities (and even these indirectly), is the result of government activity. The private side is frozen to negative. When government efforts to tread water start to be insufficient or worse cut back, the economy will continue its slide downward. Eventually the banks will sink too. But right now it looks like the economy will go south before the banks do again.
The nice thing about this “strange bedfellows” idea is that it gives credit to individuals for their ability to think for themselves and to break free of failing socioeconomic opportunism. Condemning those who disagree today instead of finding common ground only prevents healing. The president can’t make much headway with bipartisanship, but Joe sixpack sure as heck can.
Not only can alliances be formed, but some who are presently bound by a dogma untrue to their nature will gradually reconnect with pre-1980 personal values and shed the burden of right wing fundamentalism. Not all, but some. And that’s more than we have right now.
LynnDee:
Ah! Ideas to be considered for the future! As opposed to, say, taking action now to stop the Obama-sanctioned corporate looting? The looting that with each step increases corporate control of America.
Hey! I’ve got an idea… why not do both? planning present and future actions?
And when Obama and the Dem leadership refuse to do so because the filibuster is useful for corporate control and thus increasing the funneling of corporate treasure (formerly our treasure) to their coffers? When they make a big kabuki deal of “Campaign Finance Reform” and then at the last second tell us to fuck off? What then? Oh, you say that won’t happen? How do you intend to prevent it?
… oh that’s right… you can’t… because you’ve kneecapped yourself in advance by categorically refusing to take them on in the first place.
This is a good idea. But how does it help to stop the corporate looting now? For just how long should we stand by and let Obama sanction the looting?
“This may become even more important depending on what the Supreme Court does with the campaign finance case.”
Ah, but will that decision be done Obama-style with Sotomayer going hard corporate after a “corporations-personhood-mistake” sound bite head-fake?
Of course. We would not have let them down. We would have covered the back of every senator and representative who voted for the people’s plan. We would have won already.
Not signing onto good ideas from “the other side” merely because they’re from “the other side” is exactly why the D party has “bipartisan” agreement with the R party that the little people exist to prop up the big people.
The only letter I’ve seen that Jane and Grover both co-signed was demanding an investigation into Rahm’s “work” at Fannie/Freddie. So what, exactly, about Rahm Emanuel is worth saving?
“Giddy manic destructiveness”? Not sure what you’re getting at there or how that’s a valid description of forming a temporary alliance with an enemy to defeat a more important enemy. This may come as a shock to you but sometimes the ends justify the means. More importantly, your assertion that the alliance is unprincipled is neither substantiated nor particularly cogent.
FDL is right to advocate aligning with usually adverse interests groups to achieve a particular goal. If we hold FDR up as the progressive icon, we should appreciate FDL’s recommendation to investigate Rahm, a viewpoint supported by some leaders of the right. After all, FDR and Stalin were allies to achieve one goal.
Aversion to conflict is propaganda. Bipartinship is the right and the far right. Progressives are minimized as much with obamarahm as gbush.Let’s try to use the right words.
Funny. KKKarl is his mentor.
sorry..that was a resonse to rahm is the rooster who thinks everytime he crows the sun comes up.
You used “the word.”
As a libertarian, allow me to offer some perspective. First, please do not conflate ‘tebaggerism’ with libertarianism. Even though the earlier ‘tea party protests’ originated from Libertarian Party and Ron Paul activists, the ‘tea party’ meme has long since been expropriated by conservatives and the GOP. It is not an anti-statist, anti-corporatist movement, rather it is largely an anti-Obama movement.
And Grover Norquist is no libertarian; he is a Big government supply-sider who has on occasion taken some civil liberty positions that have distinguished him from the wingnuts, but such infrequent instances of sanity do not belie the fact he has been associated with with some of the most vile institutional lobbying elements of the GOP.
Now, of course, as a libertarian, I think progressivism as a model is fatally flawed. Your ends may be admirable, but your means are inherently flawed; indeed, I would describe progressivism as left-wing,liberal ends via right-wing, corporate means. Historically, both libertarianism and progressivism were left-wing 19th century movements that arose out of the failures of ‘liberal revolutions’ to produce social equality, and, in particular, against the flaws of State Capitalism.
Libertarianism was the radical movement. It identified the four monopolies–the land monopoly, the money monopoly, the patent monopoly and the tariff monopoly–as the source of much of the social inequality. It viewed the State, specifically the political power of the ruling class, as the prime enabler of the monopolies. To supress the ruling class, you had to supress the state. The remedy was to abolish the insitutional framework of the State. Libertarians at that time referred to themselves as ‘unterrified Jeffersonian Democrats.’
Progressivism, on the other hand, became a reform movement. It represented the gradualist expropriation of the late 19th century social reform movements into the State Capitalist Corporate model. The solution to the monopoly problem was progressive reform of the monopolies, but not the elimination of them. From reading the commentary here, I get the feeling that most here view the ‘New Democrat meme’ as corrupting the ideal of the original progressive movement. However, are none of you here familiar with the new left historians like Gabriel Kolko, James Weinstein, and William Appleman Williams? Gabriel Kolko deconstructed the early 20th progressive movement as a ‘Triumph of Conservatism,’ that is, it was the corporations and corporate leaders, and not the reformers, who inspired the regulation of business and who wote the rules. The new Left historians coined a term for this, ‘corporate liberalism.’
Are none of you here familiar with the pre-WW I Bourne-Dewey debate, that is the progressive debate betwwen the peaceable multi-cultural integration of peoples vs. the need of force for the anglification of the world. Well, we know which side won that debate. As a result, Randolph Bourne, at the onset of WW I, lost faith in progressivism before his untimely death.
Most here seem to cling to the idea that FDR represents the best of progressivism. The reality is that he institionalized both the corporate liberal ideal at home and the anglification of global institutions abroad. The bitter pill for progresives is that Barack Obama, the ‘hyped FDR 2.0′ by the mainstream press, is actually following, or attempting to follow, more or less in the FDR legacy. A greatly expanded coporate public-private partnership at home, a partnership where the corporations heavily influence the rules, and the impassionaed american excpetionalist defence of anglification abroad(the Nobel Peace Prize Acceptance speech).
Now, before anyone gets mad about what i’ve written and feels compelled to likewsie attack libertarianism, I should probably warn you that I consider libertarianism, as typically understood, to be just as flawed. Libertarianism, as a left-wing movement, died out by the turn of the 20th century, and was more or less killed off by WW I. As a movement, it was rebirthed for the most part on the right as part of a post WW II conservative critique of the New Deal State. As a right wing movement, it could be charaterized similarly as liberal ends or even conservative ends via corporate means. The same institutional reform flaws apply. Trying to progressively reform or ‘liberalize’ public choice institutions is a dead end.
Many so-called ‘libertarians’ or conservatives will to try to recast the ‘constitution’ as a libertarian document or portray the 19th century as some libertopia. Neither is the case. The fact is the original left-wing libertarian movement utterly disparaged the idea of the constitution as an underwriter of a liberal social order, and indeed more or less viewed the United States as an imperial monster. Henry David Thoreau didn’t write ‘Civil Disobedience’ to point out some minor flaws in constitutional American government. Wrote Thoreau:
Any person of conscious today, concerned with human liberty and human rights, would come to the same conclusion as Thoreau. So-called ‘progressive government’ has not changed things. Obama, in his Nobel Peace prize acceptance speech, invoked Gandhi and Dr. King in nonethless justifying American Imperialism. Of course, Gandhi and King were highly influenced by Thoreau’s ‘Civil Disobedience,’ and Gandhi like Thoreau, was an anarchist. Obama, in essence, was attacking the libertarian position. But just read Thoreau’s essay. He wishes for a just State, but he points out it’s never been anywhere seen. Thus, ‘That government is best which governs least’ and ‘That government is best which governs not at all.’ Obama’s defense was not a discourse in the justice of american imperlialism but rather a naked ‘justification’ on the grounds of an otherwise threatened human extinction.
What is libertarianism? Libertarianism relies on a class theory of political power to void one’s responsibility to the so-called ‘social contract,’ and relies on alternative voluntary institutions as a replacements to public choice political institutions. The notion of the ‘social contract’ is sacrosanct to progressives, as it ‘justifies’ the coercive enforcement actions of the State. But now you are going to have defend the IRS enforcement of mandatory payment of artifically health insurance premiums. After all, money paid to Insurance Corporations is the price we pay for civilization.
If progressives give up the ghost of the so-called ‘social contract,’ then, in reality, there isn’t that much of a strange bedfellows difference between libertarians and progressives. Keep in mind, by libertarianism, I do not mean the faux libertarianism of the Cato Institute, or Reason, or the GOP. Libertarianism is radical, and by radical, it is meant the latin derivation of the term, meaning ‘root.’ Radicalism is getting at the root of the problem. Progressive radicalism is really just libertarianism. At this point, it shouldn’t be that much of a leap for you guys. FDL now is permanently persona non grata with the Democratic Party. I watched a video podcast on GRITtv a while back featuring Jane Hamsher and Glenn Greenwald, complaining about the corporate media’s abdictation of it’s ‘social contract’ responsibilities, namely serving as a check on government power. But the agreed upon solution was not to rely on politics to change the ‘corporate media complex,’ but rather rely on devloping alternative media institutions. So there you have it. A libertarian solution to a progressive problem. And, rest assured, the political establishment is going to accuse Hamsher and FDL of not going along to get along in order to promote FDL’s media strategy. They are going to accuse FDL of greed and selfishness. Welcome to the libertarian fold.
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I can’t believe I just read that! Wasn’t that what we had? Have you figured out yet that that person was Hillary Clinton? And when the MSM started whistling the tune composed by corporate-one-worlders you all just started twerling and danced along singing bros before hos. I wasn’t bitter back then but that’s what you called me, but now I am, can you tell?
Having lived through the days of Roosevelt and Truman one can only imagine the disgust with which I view the current situation.
Exit the Age of Giants and Welcome to the Age of the Pygmy.
Oh Bast… an argument that might be construed as insinuating that Obama might have been the wrong choice.
Cue reflexive shrieks of outrage from the auto-Obamapologists that FDL iz actually PUMAs in disguise.
Two problems with that…
One: There can be no guarantee that Hillary would or would not have turned out to be as compromised as Obama.
Two: By the pro-Obama’s own words we have no choice but to support Obama and the Dems… we never did have a choice, and we never will have a choice.
So as Hillary is now part and parcel of the Obama administration this leads nowhere for either side of the debate.
Thank you for your post. I worry quite a bit about the level of criticism from the left, and its increasing shrillness. Why must every failure be viewed as a betrayal? Where is all this taking us on the left?
Wow… Gordon Ginsberg is already being compared to Paul Krugman! An auspicious start indeed :)
nrglaw, you ask the wrong question. The correct question is this “Why must every overt betrayal be portrayed as some act of fate?“
I don’t think that opposing the Administration on individual issues should equate to a full fledged attack.
Moreover, the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend.
I am a former conservative Repubican circa 1980 and can tell you with complete assurance, there isn’t any benefit to an alliance with Grover Norquist. Were my house afire with children inside, I wouldn’t hold the hose he was using to put it out.
The left has to confront the unpleasant reality that the Democratic Party of 2008 is essentially the GOP of 1968 or thereabouts.
Margaret Thatcher once noted that “first you win the argument, then you win the election”.
Progressives are not making headway, not because of weakness on Obama’s part, but because progressivism hasn’t yet won the argument; conservatives proudly call themselves conservative- liberals still only mumble the word.
Thinking that there are 58 Senators with (d) by their name means progressive bills should move right along posthaste is foolish; what we really have are about 70 conservative Senators of various degrees, and maybe 30 progressives.
Seen in this light, progressives are making pretty good progress, considering.
What needs to happen is the liberal equivalent of the 1970′s era conservative coalition building- making the argument for progressive causes, showing the stupidity of conservative ones.
The moment is ripe- the conservative movement is at its most vapid, with few real leaders, and every unemployed worker is receptive to a message of economic populism and fairness.
Just don’t for a moment imagine that Ben Nelson or Dianne Feinstein will be your ally, and stop being seduced by the (d) next to their name.
I have been under the impression Joe Lieberman did exactly what was intended of him by the White House. This legislation is passing now regardless of its 35% approval. They are passing this bill to head off California’s single payer initiative, which would have passed as soon as the tyrant governor is replaced. This bill is passing regardless that every senator running in 2010 supporting this bill can kiss their seat good-bye. Say Good-bye Senator Boxer, I will miss you. If there is any way to beat this bill it is by informing senators up for 2010 their political reality in a forceful way, we might defeat this bill yet.
Their one and only really positive perk in the bill is the end of the denial for persons with pre-existing circumstances!
Absolutely false.
Major loopholes in the insurance reforms that promise bans on exclusion for pre-existing conditions, and no cancellations for sickness. The loopholes include:
o Provisions permitting insurers and companies to more than double charges to employees who fail “wellness” programs because they have diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol readings, or other medical conditions.
o Insurers are permitted to sell policies “across state lines”, exempting patient protections passed in other states. Insurers will thus set up in the least regulated states in a race to the bottom threatening public protections won by consumers in various states.
o Insurers can charge four times more based on age plus more for certain conditions, and continue to use marketing techniques to cherry-pick healthier, less costly enrollees.
o Insurers may continue to rescind policies for “fraud or intentional misrepresentation” – the main pretext insurance companies now use to cancel coverage.
To go off topic and ask for people who realize we have elected a full blown coward and fooled a majority of the population and that there are organizations undermining this country that have a stranglehold on the political process and Wall Street or through Wall Street. There is only one country that benefited from 9/11 and the collapse of financial institutions and that is Israel. Facts are facts regardless of emotional ties they have organizations within their country that have attacked this country in various ways and blamed Islam and Egypt before. The 9/11 scenario is a perfect Judas goat, follow the money!
Hugh, you are absolutely correct. BO is a continuation of GWB, only under cover of left-wing rhetoric. IMHO, it looks like HRC will be the eventual demise of Medicare — which I think is part of a larger plan toward the privitization of social programs, etc. When BO started pitching his HRC, weren’t McKaskill and Sebelius campaigning against Medicare, saying that the country needed to get rid of this program? However, once the public backlash against BO’s HRC emerged, these two senators stopped mentioning medicare altogether in their campaining for HRC.