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Visiting one of the synagogues, New York Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said all four "wanted to commit jihad".
If you are just a wee bit skeptical about the seriousness of today’s “big terror bust” in Riverdale, New York, you are not alone. Reading the BBC’s dry reportage on this seems to indicate that the radicalizing force for this, um, “cell,” was the FBI informant. It was the informant that suggested and provided access to the phony stinger and phony bomb materiel.
Even establishment media outlets have had to ask about the coincidental timing of these arrests, coming about 90 minutes before President Obama’s big national security/terrorism/Guantanamo speech. It does deserve a “hmmm,” but I would ask a slightly different question: Does it seem a little too coincidental that these arrests come about three hours before a big speech on national security by former veep Dick Cheney?
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Oh, for f…k sake. Enough of the false flag anti-semitic phony terror plots every time Israel and/or AIPAC is under scrutiny. Especially plots hyped by Schumer and Bloomberg. One must always be suspicious of long investigations where the investigators string along the investigated. Funny how the informant just happened to run into these people almost a year ago. With all the recording equipment they couldn’t get the plans on tape for 11 months? A simple cell phone recording couldn’t capture the conspiracy to commit a crime 11 months ago? Arrgghh…
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” In June 2008, the informant met Cromitie in Newburgh and Cromitie complained that his parents had lived in Afghanistan and he was upset about the war there and that many Muslim people were being killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan by U.S. military forces, officials said.
Cromitie also expressed an interest in doing “something to America,” they said in the complaint.
In October 2008, the informant began meeting with the defendants at a Newburgh house equipped with concealed video and audio equipment, the complaint said.
Beginning in April 2009, the four men selected the synagogue and the community center they intended to hit, it said. They also conducted surveillance of military planes at the Air National Guard Base, it said.
“This was a long, well-planned investigation, and it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists,” said King, of New York. “
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c…..eplot.html
“New York Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said all four “wanted to commit jihad”. says all one needs to know about the prejudice and lack of knowledge of this man since ‘jihad’ has nothing to do with violence against another.
Only in the West’s ignorant use and interpretation of the word. They were led down the yellow brick road by the FBI. Meetings were not recorded as the whole charade began in April. Once the plot was developed, then recordings began in October. The similarities to the FBI involvement in the first attack on the trade center are striking. The charges are a 13 page PDF.
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” Beginning on October 19, 2008, the meetings at the Newburgh House were both audio and video recorded. Meetings at the Newburgh House were not recorded prior to October 19, 2008.
ONTA WILLIAMS stated, in substance, “they [the United States military] are killing Muslim brothers and sisters in Muslim countries so, if we kill them here [in the United States] with IEDs and Stingers, it is equal.” DAVID WILLIAMS added that if Jews were killed in the planned terrorist operations, ‘it does not matter.” (IEDs and Stingers..who wrote this script? The military planes would have Jews in them?)
(c) the need to travel to a location in Connecticut topick up the guided missile system and the IEDs;
CeW provided the defendants with a Stinger surface-to air guided missile (which was not capable of being fired) and three IEDs which each contained over 30 pounds of inert C-4plastic explosives. Although the CW informed the defendants that he had obtained these weapons from Jaish-e-Mohammed, in reality,the FBI provided them to the CW. ” (Jaish-e-Mohammed is a Foreign Terrorist organization that these guys had probably never heard of before the FBI mentioned it)
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/BombPlot.pdf
” According to scholar John Esposito, Jihad requires Muslims to “struggle in the way of God” or “to struggle to improve one’s self and/or society.” Jihad is directed against Satan’s inducements, aspects of one’s own self, or against a visible enemy. The four major categories of jihad that are recognized are Jihad against one’s self (Jihad al-Nafs), Jihad of the tongue (Jihad al-lisan), Jihad of the hand (Jihad al-yad), and Jihad of the sword (Jihad as-sayf). Islamic military jurisprudence focuses on regulating the conditions and practice of Jihad as-sayf, the only form of warfare permissible under Islamic law, and thus the term Jihad is usually used in fiqht manuals in reference to military combat. “
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
Recommended. Thanks Gregg.
Do you know anything about Kelly, or are just a happy little ankle-biter?
Levine, you f+cked up the quote. You get the Big Shmuck Award for yapping.
Do the reading and say ‘OOOOPS”.
http://www.newsday.com/news/pr…..1551.story
but wait, there’s more . . .
Village Voice
Read the title obviously.
” Kelly: 4 arrested in terror plot ‘wanted to commit jihad’
http://www.newsday.com/news/pr…..1551.story
What a piece of filth he is. I didn’t recognize his name..thanks for the link. He should be paying off the $10 million settlement for Arar. Sure explains why the US refuses to hear Arar’s case.
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” Fuller was involved in the earlier Canadian case as the man who interrogated a wounded Afghani teenager named Omar Khadr. (We’ve written extensively about Khadr’s bizarre case here.) Under Fuller’s interrogation, Khadr dubiously identified a Canadian citizen named Maher Arar as someone he had seen in Afghanistan. Arar was then shipped to Syria where he was imprisoned and tortured for a year. It’s now been proven that Arar could not have been in Afghanistan when Khadr, under intense pressure from Fuller, said he saw him there.
In January, Fuller took the witness stand in Khadr’s trial at Guantanamo Bay. He testified that during the interrogation at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, Khadr identified Arar from a photo and said he had seen him in Afghanistan.
Under cross examination, though, Fuller disclosed that Khadr didn’t actually identify Arar. Instead, he first said Arar “looked familiar,” and then “in time” he felt he recognized the man in the photo, according to Fuller’s testimony. “
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/…..gent_w.php
The quote is incomplete. What Kelly said was “They stated they wanted to commit jihad.”
The failure to complete the quotation has lead to error in understanding who it was that described the attempted bombing as an act of jihad.