Ahhh, the power of the Democrats! To all of you who said that Dems couldn’t get anything done, to all of you that said Congressional Democrats couldn’t find the President’s desk with a map, a flashlight, and guided tour from Desirée Rogers, to all of you that said this White House did not know how to play political hardball, I say: Behold!
Just look what has happened in the last fortnight (or so): the president actually put his health plan on paper, the Senate leadership and the White House decided that budget reconciliation wasn’t such a bad idea after all, Democrats in both houses of Congress came together on a sidecar strategy, leadership has started whipping votes like there’s no tomorrow, President Obama has taken his show on the road in campaign-style events to sell his reform plan, and he, the president himself, is having one-on-one meetings with Democratic members (yes, that’s Democratic, not Republican) of the House to arm twist and horse trade. And, the great grassroots organizing forces of the left—from OFA to SEIU, from DFA to HCAN, from MoveOn to what the serious folks call “the liberal blogosphere” (not the marginal blogs, of course [smile])—have been mobilized in an all-out, no-holds-barred, damn-near scorched earth effort to move every last member of the House off the dime and on board the health care highway.
Hell, the White House is giving away NASA bases, and the SEIU is threatening primary challenges to anyone that votes against the “Senate-plus” health care overhaul—even if that means running kamikaze, third-party candidates. All to counteract the horrible, obstructionist, downright evil efforts of notorious Public Enemy Number One. . .
Dennis Kucinich.
Uh, yeah.
But, whatever—there are mountains to be moved here!
And look what they are moving mountains for.
It is strikingly educational to note that none of this was done last spring for single-payer. None of this was done last summer for a bill with a robust public option. None of this was done last fall for drug re-importation. None of this was done to stop the health care bill from containing the greatest threat to reproductive rights in a generation. Some yelled, some organized, some worked hard—a group here, a blog there (or vice versa)—but there was no massive, coordinated push, no hard sell, no “win one for the gipper,” and no demonizing of those who were then the obstacles to real, progressive change.
But, today—today everything is different. The White House has the bill it really always wanted. They have their deals with PhRMA, AHIP, and the Hospitals more-or-less unbroken (despite some of their protest-too-much carping); they have their real goal in sight.
The White House has their individual mandate—a law that will require those without coverage to buy from private health insurers under pain of penalty enforced through the IRS—they have their restrictions on drug re-importation and direct drug price negotiation still intact, and they have kept their word on the handshake deal that they made last spring with the medical industrial complex: no public option.
They have the Big Insurance Bailout and Medical Industries Profit Protection Act of 2010. If BIBMIPPA doesn’t sound good to you, it shouldn’t. This bill will not provide universal coverage, it will not provide universal access, it will not significantly bend the cost curve, it will not prevent draconian escalations in premiums or out-of-pocket expenses, and, upon signing into law, it will not do anything at all for the large majority of the 48 million uninsured for another four years.
What it will do is mandate an expansion of the customer pool for private insurance. What it will do is funnel taxpayer dollars into the coffers of the lobbying arms AHIP, PhRMA, and the various private hospital associations. What it will do is enrich and entrench the current powers-that-be at the expense of middleclass and poorer working Americans.
What it will do is make future efforts at reform much, much harder.
And for this, the Democrats have practically risen from the grave—and with the force of an army of hungry zombies, they will not stop until they have converted the whole village. And, today, it looks pretty much like they will.
So, behold: Democrats can get things done. When everyone comes together and whips in one direction they can take on any foe—FOX News, John McCain. . . even Dennis Kucinich. But is this really the battle Democrats should be fighting—is this the battle we should be proud of?
No, fair cousin. Today is not St. Crispin’s Day. (Or, at least, Obama is no Henry V.) Those that the White House and its legions are fighting for are the ones covetous of gold, Rahm doth care who feeds his cost, and too many in this new vanguard do covet honor. Rather, after a year of claiming to be on the side of real health care reform, it is those who have joined this final push for the Obama plan that should think themselves accursed and hold their manhoods cheap.
And, a note, too, to those that plan on complaining about and campaigning against Republican obstructionism—this week’s events render that strategy weaker by a furlong than that of the French at Agincourt. Even without the mythical army of 60 senators—or bipartisan support—the Democrats can get things done. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
That this will was to serve corporate interests, over and at the expense of the public good, is as sad as it is signature. And, I believe, it will be noticed and remembered by voters, maybe not from this day till the ending of the world, but certainly through November, and likely long past. Behold, the power of Democrats—and for what and whom they would wield it.



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I’m going to be sick…
took me a minute there. I gotta say the Sarcasm is deep on this one.
Bravo sir.
I’m feeling it deeply today. . . sigh. . . thanks!
We are well beyond deep shit ARK. Go for it.
Aaaargh! Thanks, Gregg. (I think.)
This is my first comment here. Today, I walked away from Daily Kos. I just could not take it anymore. I saw Dennis Kuchinich referred to as a “retarded lib” (someone call Sarah Palin) and it made me feel sick.
I has always been more comfortable with the thinking crowd than the cheerleader set.
Well, let me be the first to welcome you, egail. I feel your pain. Thanks for joining us here!
Thanks for the welcome. I admit to lurking here for a while and I appreciate all that you guys do here. It’s the one place where reality still prevails.
Welcome to the Lake.
Citizen SouthernDragon:
Yo Brother Dragonman, have ya had a Raven sightin’ lately? Looks like my kid got inta Evanston…thought he might point us in the right direction for visitor waterin’ holes in that quaint little town.
Haven’t talked with him in a couple days but I would imagine he’s lurkin’.
Things have changed in Chicagoland since I lived there, but I can’t imagine that the Near North Side, particularly around Rush St, couldn’t supply all a person might want in those types of establishments.
I would love to hear updates from the current locals!
Norske — Raven put up a comment yesterday morn on one of Jane’s posts but that’s the first time I’d seen him a while.
Names can be misleading. Here I thought Raven was female. Perhaps because I knew a female named Raven, and did she ever match the name! Coal black hair, eyes that could see way beyond you.
Expectations color sooo much!
Eglad to have you Egail! Comment early and often, and know that we don’t always agree with each other, but we always listen (well, for a millisecond we do).
Citizen egail:
I don’t know how long you suffered that group of obsessive compulsive snoteaters over at KOS but many of us around here have known that Marcos is a corporatist Andremanure for a long time now. He was a bright, conservative kid who parlayed a stint in the military and a couple a degrees into a blog empire not only because he was first but he stroked all the right folks on the way up. He got a carpetbaggin’ buddy of his nominated over a respected local Democrat to run against Young in Alaska and how’d THAT turn out??!! I remember his sayin on at least two occasions that he “hated” Denis Kucinich and his politics have evolved, like Hilary Clinton’s, from extreme right wing land into “centerist” priciples of money makin’.
So welcome to the swamp Citizen, ya won’t hafta put up with a lotta bougeois bullshit around here.
Markos and his ilk are nothing more than Quislings positioning for an appointment in the Obama administration. Can’t wait for the administration to take up EFCA. That should be a laugh riot. Watch the bourgeoisie union bosses screw their members and their members will take it with a smile.
Welcome to the rational left.
We may not always agree here, but we’ll get to the truth somehow.
Usually by lying about it. /s
I just became a member here a few days ago and for the very same reason as you! I don’t mind reading other points of view, but ad hominem attacks by fellow “progressives” against one of the very few principled members in Congress is truly intolerable.
Well if you don’t like that, you really won’t like this diary over at Orange:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/16/846784/-Sick-and-Tired-of-Kucinich,-Moore,-and-Hamsher
They’re playing the race card now.
I honestly don’t want to go back to the daily kos, even to read one piece. It was really depressing me. But I will take your word for it that I wouldn’t like it :)
We’ve got to speak truth to power here.
It’s the Cult of Money in action — pity the poor handmaidens who worship but aren’t going to get any…
Drown your sorrows in music….there’s a great song “Cult of Money” by Super Genius on iTunes
Sample: “It’s only cash that makes you worthwhile; You measure the man by the size of his pile” etc.
I’m going to drown my sorrows in my garden….hopefully in Canada!
What he said.
I’m to disgusted with the whole sickening drama to care anymore. I hate to say this but the public gets the Gov’t they deserve. If people are to stupid and to lazy to look at what these lying sacks of shit are doing and are willing to just accept whatever meager crumbs our Corp. overlords and their paid for agents toss off their tables then that is exactly what they’ll get.
The U.S. public are timid, fearful idiots by and large and the polticians know this. Of course they were created idiots by a corrupt, complicit corporate media, a banal and insipid cultural milieu and an inadequate underfunded educational system. They should change the wording on the Statue of Liberty. “Give up all hope ye who enter here.” It will have to get much worse before things change and that means another economic crash with an unemployment rate of 30%+, foreclosures and homelessnes on the scale of what has occurred in Haiti, and why not throw in another unfunded war in a 3rd World nation. What is in store for the people of the United States will make Dickensian Great Britain look like Xanadu.
When Rome went bust, hundreds of years of darkness descended upon the west.
But then the Renaissance! You prove my point. Americans are timid and fearful
Thanks to the knowledge Arabia left in Spain.
I agree. The elites won’t be happy till the great majority are living in tin shacks like in Brazil and other 3rd world HELL holes. When they can hunt poor children like dogs and send out their “death squads” to stop the rabble from getting any ideas , that’s when they’ll be happy. It’s not far off.
Some people in the United States are already living that life.
you are on today, BT.
Speaking of too stupid, the to you mean to use has 2 o’s.
Ah yes, my brilliant cohorts.
Now, now, you are just going to irrate those very serious blogs on the “left” and those very serious “liberal” institutions. You will not win a lot of friends, I mean after telling them that they are veal a while back now this. Tisk tisk.
Brilliant!
God,if there was ever proof that people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear, this bill proves it.
“And, I believe, it will be noticed and remembered by voters”
I hope so but I’m sure not counting on it.
Sigh.
Well put!
Just brilliant! This is also my first post on FDL. I stopped viewing Daily Kos along time ago. There are much better sites – like FDL!
Welcome!
has the house put out its sidecar language?
1 1⁄2 oz. VS or VSOP cognac
3⁄4 oz. Cointreau
3⁄4 oz. fresh lemon juice
Yes, the average expected contribution from the industry is $3,500 per industry per house member.
The realtionship between “donations” and number of donation is a remarkably straight line. This implies “price fixing” for our congresspeople’s votes.
That is, the congresspeople have a “price list” for donations.
His name is Dennis Kucinich the last Democrat in congress.
At least the Obama Adminstration expose how many phony progressive Dems are currently in congress
Isn’t he a socialist commie?
nomolos
Please take the test below
Dennis Kucinich = DK
Barack Obama = BO
DK is for the Public Option
BO is not for the Public Option
DK is for Drug Importation
BO is not for Drug Importation
DK is not for the Individual mandate
BO is for the Individual mandate
DK is for abortion rights
BO is not for abortion rights
DK is for ending wars
BO is for more war
Who is the Democrat and who is the republican?
Answer:
Dk is the Dem
Bo is the Republican
I love Dennis Kucinich, but he’s being a little bit of a dick about this. I’m seeing a lot of attention-seekers in the House atm, including my own rep, Luis Gutierrez who’s pissed that for some reason the Health Care Reform bill isn’t reforming immigration, too.
Luis is another dem I’ve had enough of.
I think even this weak-ass health care bill passing is enough to start cracking the ice on real health care reform. I don’t believe that “this is the last chance to touch health care for decades to come” because once you moved a heavy weight a little tiny bit, it becomes easier to try it again. Or maybe I’m just tired of being pissed off at Obama.
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Then it follows that it does not matter if it fails.
Yeah, isn’t it amazing that the same folks who were making the “this is our last chance” argument have suddenly done a 180 and are arguing the exact opposite?
yeah, anyway
Moving what? This isn’t reforming shit friend. This is in fact the opposite. It’s ENSHRINING NON-REFORM forever. How is this reforming anything? To be honest what this is goes like this. Ok, you MFers can STOP asking for a better system because WE own it and we have bought your so called Party off to protect OUR ownership rights GET IT CHUMPS? We beat you to the punch you fucking losers! Thats the message being sent here with force by the Health mafia. They’re ten steps ahead of us and all that cold hard cash they’ve been spreading around gets a whole lot more action then all our bleating and farting and whining and letters and ph. calls. $$$$$ buck loads of it TALK and OUR BS doesn’t even get heard. Get it now turkeys? This so called REFORM is a BIG FAT FUCK YOU from the few dozen people that OWN us all now thanks to the BHO and gang.
agreed
“I don’t believe that “this is the last chance to touch health care for decades to come” because once you moved a heavy weight a little tiny bit, it becomes easier to try it again.”
The problem is in which direction you’re moving the weight. If this thing passes it will set us up to be more of a corporatist country with the federal government ordering people to buy various products from heavy hitting corporate donors.
Well, with all the primary challenges from right, left, rightleft, leftright and center thank goodness there will enough money to go around now that SCOTUS has cleared the way./s
What I still don’t understand is that Obama and the Dims have told us how bad and evil the insurance companies are, but they are requiring us to buy insurance from said bad and evil insurance companies and will get the IRS to come after us if we don’t. Taxpayer money will be sent to the bad and evil insurance companies through subsidies for people that can’t afford to buy insurance from the bad and evil insurance companies. There will be no cost controls, so the bad and evil insurance companies can continue to jack up the premiums, more people won’t be able to afford them and will need subsidies which will lead to more taxpayer money going to the bad and evil insurance companies. Am I missing something?
Yeah. You just didn’t notice when you walked through the Looking Glass.
What I don’t understand is why DK is the target. I assume there will be more than one No vote, so WTF is this all about? If the bill loses by one vote, any of the no voters are open targets.
Because he has accurate objections, which the White House does not want to address.
Understood, but blaming him for the losing vote? Seems to me it gives him a position of strength.
I think it’s sort of a Jim Bunning strategy. It puts a face on the thing you are fighting.
DK is a symbol of the progressive left that refuses to give up the principles of the Democratic Party in favor of corporatist pragmatism. They think that if they break Dennis, then they will break us. This is about breaking us. Here’s to Dennis. I hope he stands fir. I hope he kills this bill, and that others take courage from his stand and join with him next time they try to give us a shit sandwich.
I am in alignment with all that, and look at the response from this end.
My question was basically rhetorical because I generally find that to ignore your critics is more effective than fighting, unless your command of the language gives you a strong upper hand.
DK’s detractors are no match for a Winston Churchill, who knew how to break the backs of his opponents. (the big O comes close, but no ceegar!) That leaves DK even better off, imo.
But then, I couldn’t imagine myself in the House or Senate!
I agree! Its about breaking us. This so called health bill is really evolved into what BHO wanted in the 1st place a big fat FUCK U to the rest of from his pals over at Health care central. Why it took them a yr.+ to just get to the pt.?
Remember the frog and the boiling water story? That’s why.
And so many of them doing this call themselves Progressive. ::shudder::
I am not comfortable saying I’m a liberal since that term has been so watered down, so I say I’m the Liberal Wing of the Liberal Wing. Am I going to have to start doing that with the term Progressive now too?
Even Socialist doesn’t seem strong enough now that Bernie capitulated. ::sigh::
He’s the target because he’s the only Dem telling the truth about this hideous bill.
Because DK is telling the truth. Like when Howard Dean did it-he was public enemy #1 of the White House for a few days. (and I love how easily Mr. Markos Daily Kos soon follows whatever the White House bandwagon is doing)
Whoever Rahm/Obama targets most is the one that actually says the truth that benefits the people. Again, where in this bill are price controls? Where is the competition? Without that-the one thing I actually was stupid enough to believe the brilliant Obama understand was necessary to have to save people and the country the bill is just nothing but more insurance with prayer.
And the church is the church of holy insurance companies-let us pray now that they will do the right thing.
Again I ask America, how stupid do the Democrats think we are? As a Democrat for 40 years I would like everyone to know I am not that dumb and this is not the Democratic party I ever signed up for.
go independent.
It doesn’t matter in a state like NY where I live since you’re not going to get any attention anyway. But if you live in a swing state you’d be amazed how politicians will faun over you if you’re not already giving your vote away.
Dennis’ principled and logical opposition makes them look sleazy and corrupt. Which they are, they just don’t want to appear that way.
And Behold, their intent shall be revealed by their actions.
The multiyear lag period is the short term poison pill for the Democrats. Watch for the GOP pivot that brandishes the lack of immediate benefits.
The mandate will take out whomever survives that first electoral decimation.
Don’t worry, the Important Legislators have fat parachutes.
besides…the bill funds abortion. /s
Once more into the screech!
wonderful that you are coming to this realization.
some of us realized this quite a while ago, and were banned from commenting on your Leader’s threads for it.
now that the (D)’s are fulfilling all of our worst predictions, finally frontpage firepups awake to what was blindingly obvious for so long – the Donkey is not your friend!
so, talk to us about what to do next, don’t take certain things off the table pre-emptively, like such a large segment of the progressive blogosphere did with Single Payer.
Citizen sporkovat:
Ok now that you’ve got your pathetic mornin’ whine out, go change your diaper and take a nap.
and welcome all newbies.
was never a DailyKos fan…I like the general civility of FDL.
Some sick diaries over at Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/16/6223/83073
This one takes a Leninist approach. Things must become worse before they get better, so let’s make them worse. I’m sure the taxpayers will understand.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/15/846590/-A-disgraceful-diary-Why-I-cant-support-the-HCR-bill-%28FINAL-UPDATE%29
This one milks the same stupid equivalence. Health insurance does not = health care, but free advertising for CIGNA will grease the wheels for its permanent subsidy at taxpayer expense.
Honestly,
at this point Lenin may be right. As long as there’s a staus quo there will be people to protect it. I’m very close to agreeing with we need to make it worse before it will ever get better.
We don’t have to do a thing. The economy is gonna get worse all on its own.
Maybe it’s more “realism” — as long as things are getting worse, we might as well endorse the worsening trend as a strategy of winning friends. Problem is, they’re the wrong friends.
Behind the idea of hope, however, is the notion that things will get better when they actually get better. However, by folding all political ideologies into neoliberalism, we have screwed hope. The only way out, the way toward hope, is to argue against capitalism, of which neoliberalism is merely the latest development.
Inqu., I went to the link Cass gave and what Cass meant (I’m pretty sure) is that the blogger on KOS said we have to pass the bill and deliver ourselves into the cartel’s hands and then work within that context to improve things.
1st worse than improve.
This isn’t the let it fester to the point of complete rot and people FINALLY wake up strategy that many of us (myself especially) advocate.
Ah…damn
Because that’s almost where I am. Maybe I’m just reading to much Trotsky lately tho.
Right. We make things better by… making them better!
Too bad the WH didn’t exert itself over the Blanche Lincolns, Ben Nelsons and Max Baucasses of the world. We would have had a decent bill by now. Funny, how the progressives always seem to be on the wrong side of Obama’s punching bag. But then, it’s always easier to kick the dog than take out the bully. I hope Dennis stays the course.
Nicely done. Obama is certainly a far cry from Henry V, and cousins Harry and Nancy, a far cry from Gloucester and Westmoreland, or Bedford and Exeter. In fact, they’re even a far cry from Democratic leaders a generation ago. Deliver us from these Democrats who aren’t Democrats. Give us a new generation with the guts to stand up for Democratic Party principles; or give us a new Party that will do what the Democrats do no longer.
I was thinking, maybe Richard III?
How about King George III?
I know he’s ambitious but I don’t think he’s that ambitious. lol
Excellent post, Gregg. Thank you.
This one’s a beaut:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/16/846678/-Look,-the-vote-is-this-week.
in which we find the argument:
This is why enforcement is being left to the states?
This is a great blog (save the beginning of the next to last para — avoid “that” at the beginning). A work of beauty.
I’m over Stern and Trumka, these are no union leaders. The notion to primary DK, who has always sided with the working class is perverse, and merely reveals their collusion with a system of economic injustice they were elected to resist.
Fuck’em all.
imo union self interest did a lot more to dilute HCR than it did to help it.
Yep. Unfortunately union leadership is still in bed with the bosses.
Citizen SouthernDaron:
Yep, remember Local P-9 in Austin Minnesota, at the Hormel plant there in the early 80′s? That was probably the first big public exposure for the decayin’, corrupt national meatpackers union…those bastards must all be rottin’ in Dante’s last circle of Hell by now.
Once the corporations figured out how much it would take to buy the leadership its been all downhill.
Citizen SouthernDragon;
I think the whole thing turned when George Meany beat the Reuthers…the Meanyites actually supported tricky Dick the first time around and jumped all over St. Ronnie of Reagan in ’80.
I go along with that. Meaney was dirty from day one. If we could only get what workers we have left to join the IWW. No individual leaders, each shop does its own thing and a real general strike is only a word away.
All hail the Wobblies!
I’m one of those who’ll be mandated to get private insurance. Self-employed, barely keeping the house, only affording health insurance for my wife, applied for public health care in Washington state (delayed, 2 year waiting list, underfunded), and now I can look forward to a hassle from the IRS because I can’t afford insurance, and can’t prove I can’t (no employer, no unemployment insurance, etc). I don’t fit the plan, and without single payer, I may never fit the plan. You should see how many thousands we owe last year for my wife’s surgery and physical therapy – and she had insurance. My health plan is to not get sick…
I’m sorry to hear you are up against it. It was my hope that HCR would address more folks like you. My dh’s business just had to readjust its offerings of benefits also, not to the good. It got extremely expensive. It already was, now it’s absurd.
We’re in California…
As my own personal tribute to the late, great Howard Zinn, I have been re-reading “A People’s History of the United States”. I am struck by how the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Since the genocide of American Indians, people like “us” have been fighting people like “them”. “They” always win and they always will. We are allowed a few minor victories from time to time to keep us in line, but if any small threat exists that in some small way, may affect their beloved capitalism, it is treated as something to be feared and deemed unworkable. This is life in the US of A and it will be that way until it collapses from the weight of it’s own greed and corruption.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Democrat.
Will you swear under oath to this before the HUAC?
The mouse that finally roared – for the fat cats.
So this is what it has come to. For so long, I had some hope for this country because I felt the blogosphere ad the progressive organizations operating through it, might spearhead a revolution in the Democratic Party. Instead, with the exception of FDL, the other major blogs and the veal pen have now effectively joined with the corporatist DLC wing of the Democratic Party. All because facing the truth about the President and his cronies in this travesty of healthcare “reform.”
I’m feeling very disheartened.
Don’t despair. The current situation is not sustainable. When it all falls down we will be here to pick up the pieces.
“…to pick up the pieces.”
Starting backed up into the dark Ages.
Yeah, pretty deflating.
There is that revolution-flavored thing happening, but we are still at the leading edge of it. At the moment I think we are in a kind of effective information interregnum, brought on by an unholy combination of media consolidation and broadband access friction.
And there is still, sadly, a lot of play in the ignorance-as-virtue tactics.
That’s just brilliant stuff – the writing anyway, the thing that you’re describing is just abysmal.
Gregg, you and I are twins separated at birth. I’ve been tweeting this post all over the known universe.
However, for all the disillusioned commenters here, remember that the beast is terminally ill. Neither financially nor democratically speaking does this country have a longterm, sustainable chance. The American experiment is essentially over, but the future will see numerous smaller local and regional experiments in sharing, food production and distribution, health care (yes!), COOPERATION among sane, caring people, and a better day for all.
The hardest part is giving up the false hope that binds you, emotionally and intellectually, to the current collective. For this we can thank the Big O and his Wall Street buddies, for having made everything perfectly clear.
true that.
Gregg is a great writer, and ahead of the curve in comparison to his frontpage colleagues.
even JH is now saying things like:
as folks like letsgetitdone have been pointing out for months.
This might help get the smell off of our placebo-progressive ‘friends’ in congress:
1 Qt. 3% Hydrogen Peroxide Solution
1 Cup Baking Soda
1/4 Cup Laundry Detergent
Wash vigorously and then rinse with warm water.
Then be sure to splash more freezing cold ice water in the faces of your constitutents.
Bill Clinton and his New Democrats sent my job to Mexico. My actual, wonderful, union factory job that I had held for eight years literally went to Mexico. And I was put out on the street. That was a long time ago. That was when I quit the Democratic Party.
How can ANY of you remain Democrats knowing what you know now?
crickets,,,,,
it’s like a church to certain grizzled elders maybe – they have huge psychological defensive structures against criticisms of the Democrats, and react emotionally rather than logically.
younger folks, well, the (D)’s are a cooler brand than the (R)’s, with way better marketing team.
but, knowing what you know via hard, firsthand experience, it would be difficult or absurd to continue to support a political party so bad for your interests, pretty campaign rhetoric notwithstanding.
may we all get stupaked….
Not to contradict Norske (that would be suicide; whoosh, you’re gone) but Sporkovat (self-congratulation aside)does have a point. The nature and scope of the Dem sell-out has been pretty obvious for at least a year. Maybe some of us wanted to wait for the long-anticipated appearance of that 11th dimension before making a final decision. Or maybe we thought Jane had a lever long enough and a place to stand to move the world.
Facing reality is harsh, but it’s part of growing up. Abandoning hope is wrenching. We’re on life-support, facing recission. We’re marginalized, like DK. And we’re fragmenting.
From where I stand, CarolynC, I can’t tell you not to give up on the political sphere. But I hope you keep commenting here and at UT. Your thoughts go beyond the political to the deeply human, and bring comfort.
At times like this I especially wish MANAS were still publishing. manasjournal.org
Nice post, though.
It wasn’t because of Obama, it was because of Palin.
Let’s not kid ourselves here. I knew what he was, and I said it to friends while it was happening. I knew better than to get caught up.
But then SHE appeared. Never before has someone managed to whip me into more of a blood rage than that woman. Instantly everything that is wrong with this planet had a symbol, her.
And let’s not kid ourselves, Obama can speak. When he doesn’t have to sell anything and he can pretend to be a progressive, he hits those progressive notes like a master.
So the combo of it. The blood rage caused by Palin and the soothing words from Obama, pulled the wool over all of us.
She NEEDED to lose, and he was saying what we wanted to hear, even if we did all know better.
At the end of the day we’re all still just animals with brains that can be fooled.
Obama was the least dangerous of the two.
General comment. All this trash talk about party purists and supporting a party that didn’t deliver, yadda yadda. Unless and until a viable 3rd party makes an appearance we’re stuck with the evil of 2 lessers in most races, notably for prez. There are many who thought that the world would change with Obama’s election, they are the most discouraged. There is no instant gratification here. Go with Dems, go with 3rd parties, whatever, it’s still a long haul with a lot of work, some wins, some loses. After 2010 there’s 2012, after that 2014…. One is either ready for the long haul or one is not.
the ‘long haul’ has always proven to favor the economic elites. Just look around.
legacy thinking from a legacy loyalist.
old systems break before new ones are ready, then nimble, versatile, adaptable humans cobble together something new as best they can.
at least many legacy party loyalists can now concede the obvious – their party and the system in which it is embedded is hopelessly broken.
the long haul into strange times will require open thinking, not closed-minded clinging to the Old Truths, Least-Worstism, party of FDR, Repugs are so scary, etc etc.
This story appears near the bottom of the page of the Huffington Post this morning. Anyone out there seen anything else confirming this story that President Obama made a deal with for-profit hospitals to kill the Public Option?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html
Yeah, it’s kind of old news. But thanks anyway.
The Democratic Party is broken.
All of the King’s horses and all of his men cannot put Humpty together again.
Will all those with Facebook accounts please share these posts. There are a lot of folks over there who are with OFA and posting constantly “This bill must pass!” Please. I’ve been arguing like crazy with them. Even went without sleep over it. Help.
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Thank you. :)
They got what they wanted…per Avedon….
Anyone out there seen anything else confirming this story that President Obama made a deal with for-profit hospitals to kill the Public Option?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html
So eloquent! My favorite paragraph…
I still yearn for the day week or year when someone here will be able to write something equally eloquent in praise of the Democrats wielding their power. But I’m not holding my breath…
But think of the time we’ll all save not having to go vote in November!
Great post. Thank you.
Here is my contribution to the debate:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2010/3/16/13056/0019/686#c686
“Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.” — Georges Clemenceau
Yes, I know you’re mostly over 20 and most not Socialist, but would you rather have had the one about the puppies?
Either way: Irony Meter Rating: 9 of 10
So, how is MoveOn/Kos any different than the Koolaid drinking NeoCons from the turn of this century? Other than a little chest thumping, I see little, if any. In the end, just shut up and support our fearless leader, principles be damned. And, how did that blind loyalty work out, electorally, for the Repugs anyway? At least it took a full term or better before the Shrub got cooties. 14 months into his first term, Obama comes to town and the local pols start looking for the exits. Cough, Cough, *Boccieri*, Cough