It’s April 22nd, Earth Day, and the question on everyone’s mind is “Can I drink milk anymore? Or eat spinach? And how long will it be before beans picked this month hit the market?”
What, you’re not asking those questions? Well, maybe you should be. . . or maybe you shouldn’t be. The fact is, I’m not entirely sure—and after weeks of googling till dawn, I feel just as infuriated as I do informed.
Let me backtrack just a little. Perhaps you caught me a few weeks ago talking about the evolving nuclear crisis in Japan and the discomfort I felt upon hearing President Obama assure us (or, rather, corporate America) that nuclear power was an integral part of our energy future. My initial concern grew from nuclear being a dirty, dangerous, non-domestic, non-renewable, and ridiculously expensive energy source—bad enough—but Obama’s rush to prop up an industry responsible for over a quarter-million dollars in campaign contributions, even when most other industrialized countries were taking this opportunity to reexamine nuclear energy, soon had me wondering about something else.
Within days of the earthquake and tsunami that crippled the Fukushima facility, we were told (probably well after the fact) that some of the reactors had to vent radioactive steam. This was followed by news of explosions in reactor buildings, rising temperatures in fuel storage pools, possible breeches of containment vessels, pools of radioactive water, leaks of radioactive water. . . I have probably left out a few events. And, while, first and foremost, I felt sick over what the people of Japan were facing, I also started to wonder: If the US government is so worried about the political fallout from this disaster, how honest is it going to be about the actual, radioactive fallout?
And that’s a lousy feeling. . . because here is what I did not want to do—I did not want to sink into Threat Level Red (red is/was the highest, right?), start stockpiling canned goods, duct-taping my windows, and downing iodine tablets. That is really not my nature. My attitude is that life is inherently a bit risky; some risks you can control, and some you can at least assess and decide what you are willing to accept, and adjust your behavior accordingly.
Alas, in this case, I was having a really hard time gathering enough information to make an informed assessment.
The problems here are manifold. It is hard to trust what we hear from Japan and TEPCO. It is hard to find information on the amounts of Fukushima fallout now hitting North America. Once you find some of that information, it is hard for a layperson to sort it out. There is no obvious single source that breaks down the components of that fallout. There is no single government standard for radiation exposure, and it is extremely hard to figure out the differences.
US government officials do not speak with one voice, and neither do the non-governmental experts in the field. As much as there are distinctly different risks from external and internal exposure to radiation, there are different ways of assessing the immediate and cumulative dangers. And real measures of how various radioactive isotopes are dispersed or concentrated as they move up the food chain, what is called “bioaccumulation,” are spoken of more in terms of maybes than metrics.
I consider myself a pretty quick study, but dump all this on a guy that can’t really tell you the difference between picocuries and millisieverts, and you get anxiety and annoyance. . . .
And, now, you also get a brand new Firedoglake project: Radiation Nation.
Radiation Nation is an attempt to turn frustration into information. It is an effort to take all of the news, statistics, websites, and debates, and turn them into a useful, productive, dependable, and, above all, understandable resource. Radiation Nation may not start with all the answers, but it starts with the idea that we—me, you, other FDL contributors, and a wide variety of experts, authors, researchers, and journalists—will find ways to get the answers. And then we will take that information and put it in one place.
Firedoglake has already started this work in the context of our reporting on the larger crisis in Japan. I owe much to FDL regulars Scarecrow, Toby, and Kirk, and community members like Lobster for their contributions to our better understanding the realities and risks. In the coming weeks, FDL will add to the knowledge base with posts by and live chats with a variety of experts with a variety of viewpoints. And, because the disaster at Fukushima is still evolving, I expect this project will, too. (For instance, even with solid data in hand, should the proper focus be on behavior modification and risk avoidance, or is that a waste of energy that would be better spent on decreasing the risk of future Fukushima-like catastrophes?)
In the end, I hope to find a place that is neither doomsday nihilistic or naively nonchalant, that is about knowledge informing action rather than breeding cynicism, and is easy to access and understand. Radiation Nation will provide a central repository for FDL’s work, but also will include links to others’ articles, as well as sites that provide some of the raw data we will all try to process.
And I mean “we.” I freely admit this is not my area of expertise—I come at this wanting knowledge, not having it—but I expect others here have more experience with these subjects and/or the desire to dig along with me. As always, you will have the opportunity to comment and join in live chats with our guests, but I also encourage pointing us to other experts and sources and, if you have something you want to share in longer form, by all means post a diary on MyFDL (include the tag “Radiation Nation”).
As is abundantly clear, there is too much to consider in only one post, or on only one day—even if it is Earth Day—but with Radiation Nation, Firedoglake hopes to provide one place for all of us to continue the conversation.
More to come. . . .
[ed. note: Join us on Tuesday, April 26, at 3:45pm EDT for a live chat with Harvey Wasserman. Mr. Wasserman is the author of “Solartopia! Our Green-Powered Earth,” and a lifelong grassroots anti-nuclear activist who helped coin the term “No Nukes.” He edits the website nukefree.org, and recently wrote “’Safe’ Radiation is a Lethal Three Mile Island Lie.”]



46 Comments

Please fix: The link to AggNuke: Live Japan Radiation Tracker takes one to a pest control link farm.
Gregg Here is a link to Dr. Helen Caldicott’s YouTube on nuclear power generation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMXvpWoHzeE&feature=share
Your thoughts?? Sure scares the shit out of me!!
I worry about my kids and their kids… We are all on the West coast!
Wow, that got hijacked. I am going to remove it until I can figure out where the original went.
This sounds great. As the granddaughter of a member of the Manhattan Project, an unknowing member at that, the long term nuclear questions were so very important to my grandfather and remain so for myself.
If he were here, he would be thankful for FDL’s efforts.
Is it possible you might include some of my diaries on this subject? I think I qualify as an expert on radiological emergencies.
I have nearly two decades of experience working with federal, state and local officials on radiological emergency planning and preparedness. In my work I reviewed radiological emergency plans and evaluated nuclear power plant emergency exercises. Also, I participated in the formulation of federal recommendations for radiological emergencies at exercises conducted by DOD, FEMA and the White House.
Will FDL partner with Steve Aftergood?
Excellent!
I also love the page for Radiation Nation plus the links to the interviews and the charts.
I worked for a great many years with Radiologists and from my experience I can tell you there is no, NO, safe levels of radiation. We are already subjected to levels in our homes and do not need the extra amounts loose in the wind. But…
not much we can do about it now aside from a major push to do away with nuclear power. What bothers me most is that the levels of radiation for infants and small children are not being considered.
Thank you for your time and work to give people a way out. I know that it is futile in many cases, but just having an emergency plan is a step forward. I live in an area where I am surrounded by Nuclear Power Plants and when they started to build them we were promised the lowest electric bills in the country. Well–that only lasted a few months.
I will absolutely look, and when I have a moment later, will add any that address this.
Thank you for your contribution.
Thank you, Gregg & FDL. This is terrific ~ turning justifiable fear into timely, honest, useful information for everyone’s health and safety.
This is an excellent idea! It appears however, that someone(s) are trying to take it over.
The Berkeley Radiological Air and Water Monitoring Link has been hijacked. It took me to Japans NHK World.
In 1969, when they were planning to build Vernon Power Plant (nuclear) in Vermont, my physics instructor asked me if I would write a position paper on ionizing radiation and biological systems. How naive we were when we submitted your finding to the politicians who were in a position to decide whether or not to go ahead with the plant. They will be decommissioning the plant this year due to leaks of radioactive water. Good luck with the new site!
Excellent! Great work! I got the NHK feed too from the Berkeley link.
Really good plan to do this. I have read all the diaries and things about the Japanese tragedy and some are technical beyond my understanding but I like the info.
FDL doing follow up on a story and remembering to include important facts on a topic that others have done so newbees get up to speed? We are getting organized?
Does this mean we have left the Democratic party?
Will Rogers comes to mind:)
What is the latest word on the breach of the reactor vessel reported by Congressman Markey? It was denied and covered up very fast, and apparently never mentioned again.
Gregg!
I just remembered that many here posted Diaries about the TSA scanners and the levels of radiation used and how they are not calibrated as they should be. There may be some links and facts loaded into those nice little parcels as well.
Fallout “background” 40; Alert 100, following map gives sites well in excess 100+ CPM over US since early March! : https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/showMap.do Pick one and find out yours!
OK, I went in and fixed that one, too.
Thanks for pointing it out.
If anyone is interested I will find the link for a posting by George Washington about the FDA refusing to test fish coming out of the Pacific. Apparently, they are relying on the eyes of NOAA.
As one commentor said, who knew the folks at NOAA have geiger counters in their eyes.
Well, let me know and I’ll go fetch.
As long as nuclear energy is regulated with the same zeal for the public good that we apply to off-shore drilling and fracking, we can be confident that nuclear disasters lurk in the not distant future.
Radiation Nation is a good concept however, as a biologist, I think we as a nation should focus on Deepwater Water horizon more so than the radiation leaks in Japan. The effects of what happened a year ago are just beginning to be seen as marine life is dieing off and dead zones enlarging. The ecosystem of the Gulf is vital to the food chain for humans not only through the simple line of bigger fish eat little fish but also that the contaminants that are in the Gulf do get sucked into the clouds and come down in the form of rain on to inland soils, thus effecting crops as well. The Gulf stream can also carry these contaminants to the Atlantic as well. Cancer clusters could be a common occurrence along coastal areas on both sides of the ocean.
So far official government reports flatly deny all this and want us to believe everything is normal. Any biologist worth his NaCl will tell you not to believe it.
Why not have both.
Radiation Nation and a Gulf Monitor or something to that effect because the USG is totally working to fulfill plausible deniability for all corporate malfeasance.
I concur
FDA – Radiation Safety – New and Updated Information:
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm247403.htm#standards
With a plant in Fulton Mo. this will be useful information. Thanks to all the knowledgeable people who comment on this subject.
They’ve found rads in our milk here in the Isles…
Rads in the milk…
Can anyone tell me what these apparently scary numbers mean? [for the Honolulu monitoring station]
Gamma Energy Range 2 Gross(CPM): 1194
Gamma Energy Range 3 Gross(CPM): 692
Gamma Energy Range 4 Gross(CPM): 208
Gamma Energy Range 5 Gross(CPM): 107
Gamma Energy Range 6 Gross(CPM): 65
Gamma Energy Range 7 Gross(CPM): 75
Gamma Energy Range 8 Gross(CPM): 54
Gamma Energy Range 9 Gross(CPM): 36
Gamma Energy Range 10 Gross(CPM): 80
Thanks for that.
I didn’t read every word but whatever sample testing they’ve done is meaningless one I read some of their general claims about radiation. I’m no expert but I know what bullshit smells like.
For example, revising the safe level of radiation upwards after years of scientific study is insulting, or how radiation stays on the surface of the ocean (jeez) and how radiation dissipates quickly. Really? What about celsium 137?
The most ridiculous claim they made was how fish don’t swim from Japan to the US so no worries. I bust out laughing at that one.
Certain species have been found to travel great distances. It’s disturbing that they actually had the balls to include it in their report.
I also didn’t see what type of seafood they tested, but I might have missed it. That is a critical factor in proper testing. Did they test any big fatty fishes like tuna?
I’t's very difficult for me to believe anything our government agencies say anymore. If Obama bullied the EPA and NOAA into colluding with BP to cover up the truth, I give little credence to the FDA; an agency with a history of questionable integrity.
It would be great to have a dedicated RSS feed for Radiation Nation posts.
Right: you won’t die 5 minutes after drinking this milk … but you might accumulate enough with or without other exposures to have a greater risk of dying 5 years after drinking this milk.
And I NEVER forget Whitman’s lies on 9/11 air quality dangers.
Don’t know if anything has changed since August, but the FDA isn’t testing Gulf seafood.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fda-not-testing-gulf-seafood-mercury-arsenic-or-other-heavy-metals-because-we-do-not-expect-
clemenza, I like your idea because many folks get that nuclear is not their friend but, unfortunately, they don’t realize Big Oil/Chemical/PRhMa isn’t either nor how. With a skilful approach to your idea, I think we could fix that in a jiffy.
From the Washington Post on 4/17:
The FDA has not been testing U.S. fish.
“We’ve been working with NOAA to keep an eye on U.S. waters, to see if there is any cause for alarm, and we do have the capability to begin testing if that does occur,” she said.
NOAA fisheries spokeswoman Kate Naughton declined to answer questions and referred a reporter back to DeLancey and the EPA.
So then, what’s the deal with the FDA report?
Was anyone with a scientific background involved in actual testing or did some nuclear industry hack from GE simply make the whole thing up? Sheesh. What clowns.
To read the entire article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/alaska-federal-health-officials-say-north-pacific-fish-not-contaminated-by-japan-radiation/2011/04/17/AFEgIGvD_story.html
I’d like to make a suggestion where we can cut spending;
get rid of the FDA. Science and public safety is a thing
of the past. They’re all industry PR hacks.
They won’t test seafood in the Gulf, they won’t test seafood in the Pacific, and they’re in bed with big pharma.
WTF?
I understand your concern about government agencies and how they are being manipulated for political purposes now. However, I can speak from personal experience and say that wasn’t always the case. There was a time in the past when scientists within these agencies were able to bring forward information to the public, especially when it could hurt citizens if they didn’t. After all, that was the original purpose of many of the regulatory agencies…to protect citizens against fraud and abuse.
Hi Gregg. I live near the Diablo Canyou Nuclear power plant in San Luis Obispo Ca. Currently PG&E are working with the N.R.C. to re license the 2 reactors at the plant some 13 years in advance of the expiration of the current operating licenses, and after the discovery of a new earthquake fault along the coast near the plant (the plant is situated on the coast). The Plant is situated near one known fault and supposedly designed to withstand an earthquake of magnitude 7.5 a number that was derived from data gathered using 25 year old technology. If that weren’t enough there is emerging evidence of several smaller fault lines near the plant that may or may not be connected to the first 2 I listed. The developing picture is of a geologically unstable part of the central California coast with 2 operating reactors and a big pond containing 20 plus years worth of spent fuel sitting in cooling racks, and the racks have already been moved closer together because there wasn’t enough space to hold all the spent fuel! PG&E announced to the community that they would halt their re licensing process in order to
perform 3d seismic imaging of the new fault and then have their own seismic department issue a report, no mention of a peer review of the data. Simultaneously with that announcement they fired off a letter to the N.R.C. saying they wanted to proceed with the licensing process. Why am I not reassured? I’m forwarding the url for Radiation Nation to some of my friends. We’ve been trying to stop this radioactive travesty since 1968.
I disagree. “We the people” need to get our government back with regulatory agencies acting on behalf of citizens, not corporations or a wealthy few. What we should do is pressure these agencies to act on behalf of the citizens first, NOT industry first. Often what you will find within an agency are a few “political” types at the top making inappropriate decisions, while others within the agency would like to do the right thing. Get rid of the political hacks at the top who more often than not represent industry first, and you will see very different agencies.
mzchief
Maybe the timing is right. Every person I speak to is hopping mad about corporate immunity no matter what their crime.
Even the far right wingers I know are fuming over it.
You’re right, but unfortunately the level of corruption is so entrenched in our political system now, it’s systemic.
All the good folks were either driven out or they’re being shut out by higher ups. That’s just the way it is now so I say shut it down. They’re not doing the job we need them to do.
Integrity can only be resurrected through a President and the Congress. You are not going find a shred of integrity or decency in this Babylonian Beltway.
There’s an old saying that’s most fitting.
The fish stinks from the head down.
One more thing.
Obama has made perfectly clear what happens to whistleblowers.
He’ll ruin their life.
Prosecution and incarceration.
Even if someone wants to do right by the public, Obama has made it extremely unlikely.
I can’t think of a better time for the initiative.
“Pretty Please” (hat tip Mark Fiore)
Friday, April 22, 2011
Guest Post: Leading Epidemiologist Says that Instead of Trying to Avoid Japanese Radiation, Put Your Energy Into Demanding a Saner Energy Policy
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/04/guest-post-leading-epidemiologist-says-that-instead-of-trying-to-avoid-japanese-radiation-put-your-energy-into-demanding-a-saner-energy-policy.html
Good gods!
Caldicott is THE go to womon on how man is killing the planet. Thanks for the link, even tho it’s awful.
I guess it may be too late, but we need to fight this with our last breath. America is and has been the prime mover for thsi “technology”.
Now wonder China has put the brakes on. They were getting ready for a push for about what we have: 20% of our power from Nuclear ( they have 2%)
From what she said even one of these things is enough to kill all life on this planet until the sun goes supernova
Actually, I tend to think that is THE most important issue we progressives can address. We need to settle in and pick our fights.
That Caldicott video up above, taken from InfoWars.com is a true wake up call, like the final Trump, if we don’t stop these marauders
Two days later: still nothing. Apparently, the oft-touted enthusiasm for whistleblowers does not extend to those trying to write here.