August 14, 2011 Fullerton Rally in support of Kelly Thomas. Photo by infinityofideas.
After a three-day preliminary hearing, Orange County Superior Court Judge Walter Schwarm ordered Officer Manuel Ramos and Cpl. Jay Patrick Cicinelli to stand trial in the killing of Kelly Thomas. The almost-impossible-to-watch video of that fatal beating was released on Monday.
Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackaucka has not ruled out filing additional charges against one or more of the other four cops involved in the beating:
Kelly Thomas’ family and supporters have called for the arrest of Officer Joseph Wolfe, one of six police officers involved in the fatal altercation. In a video of the beating, Wolfe is seen striking Thomas. Wolfe and Officer Manuel Ramos, who is facing charges of second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter, were the officers on the scene.
Rackauckas did not name any additional officers, but when asked specifically about Wolfe, he said: “We are not done with this case…. We are still considering all the evidence.”
According to a long exposé in the OC Weekly, Fullerton’s “Bullies in Blue” have a history of brutality and misconduct that goes back several generations. Officer Kenton Hampton, for instance, one of the six cops involved in Kelly Thomas’ death, has been bullying and arresting citizens on false pretenses for at least the past couple of years but has never been disciplined by the department. Hampton is facing at least one lawsuit; additional suits on behalf of Kelly and another victim of Hampton’s brutality are apparently forthcoming.
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Fullerton’s former police chief, Pat McKinley, was an LAPD cop for 30 years and helped form the nation’s first SWAT team to crack down on the Black Panthers. He later made a name for himself in Fullerton by using a random killing as an excuse to raid dozens of houses in a predominately Latino neighborhood. McKinley is now a Fullerton City Councilman, one of three facing a recall over the Kelly incident. Here he is talking shit on CNN last summer about “the gravity of the situation” and how “witness statements are often flamboyant and exaggerated.”
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There’s an innocent explanation for the letters found in Kelly’s backpack but the cops preferred to cover it up and let people think Kelly had stolen mail. From the above-mentioned OC Weekly article:
At a bus stop, a local attorney approached Ron Thomas, Kelly’s father, to tell him he felt detectives had prodded him to pin wrongdoing on his son. Police found papers from the man’s firm in Thomas’ backpack, so they contacted him. The attorney told them he had thrown the papers away in a trashcan on a public sidewalk, meaning Kelly had every right to pick them up. Goodrich says a detective did call to ask about the letter in Thomas’ possession, but, he contends, it was just a typical interview and there was no coaxing involved.
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Mental health professionals are hoping, once again, that the Kelly Thomas murder might result in reform. That Fullerton PD might, for instance, actually use the training that they have already received on how to interact with the homeless and mentally ill people they are sworn to protect and serve. In Los Angeles, police are required to alert a mental health evaluation unit when they encounter someone suspected of suffering from mental illness. Imagine how things might have gone differently if Officer Ramos had called in a professional to assist with the questioning of Kelly. Instead he called in five more bullies and they killed a man who had done nothing more than fish some papers out of the trash and stick them in his backpack.




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In other murderous pigs who don’t like being held accountable news, former BART cop Johannes Mehserle wants his conviction on involuntary manslaughter overturned so that he can return to law enforcement. You can’t make this shit up.
Thank you for the update carol.
After the initial flare up of attention on twitter a couple days ago I haven’t seen much else on this case. I’m glad you’re still watching and reporting :)
Thanks Kris. I regret that I didn’t pay more attention to this when it first happened. I imagine the trial will take many months – probably lots of motions to get through first.
Now if they only can be convicted in a county that is right wing ‘conservative’.
thank you, hfc. recommended.
I really want to be hopeful, since the community has come out several times to protest and demand that the cops be charged. I get the impression that Fullerton is not particularly proud of its police department in general.
Every Cop who witnessed the crime and did nothing should be held for murder unlike regular people they have a job to do a responsibility and that means stopping crimes especially when the police do it.
In fact much like serial killers bad cops should be profiled and studied so we can weed them out before they ever become cops. I would like this story to become a movie if we bring up public awareness then we put pressure on good cops who don’t want to be put in jail and have their identity made public because they stood by and watched.
I expect the Right to soon push to make any portable video recording equipment illegal including cell phone cams or to make video tapping the police illegal soon.
I hadn’t kept up with new laws passed by states to make filming illegal, but:
In 2011 an appeals court threw out Simon Gilk’s conviction for filming a cop abusing a homeless man in Boston.
“Currently there are several other cases still pending around the Country, including that of Khaliah Fitchette who videotaped Newak [sic] Police abusing another passenger and was arrested, while the police erased the cell-phone.
Additionally, the case of Michael Allison has made quite a bit of news. In this case, the Illinois Attorney General is trying to impose a 75 year sentence on Mr. Allison for recording police officers who were harassing him, reportedly for filing a lawsuit against the department previously. Charges are still being pursued, even though several similar cases have been thrown out by the Courts in Illinois.”
http://technorati.com/technology/article/federal-courts-rule-it-is-not/#ixzz1uSuy0sK5
The case was big at the time; Illinois and Maryland have similar laws.
They are using illegal wiretapping as grounds for criminalizing filming cops unless they giver permission.
Folks are sure wondering what might happen in Chicago at the NATO protests, although Chicago’s corporation council and police superintendent Garry McCarthy say they won’t enforce the law.
There seem to be different takes on ‘filming’ and ‘audio recording’; guess the law is what a judge says it is, in the end.
Thanks, hotflashcarol, for the update and the good news that more of them may be charged with crimes, though the charges for Cicinelli and Ramos seem…weak.
Generations of this; my stars.
Thanks for the update on this “good” news. Rec’d, cuz this shit has got to stop. How do we even have a debate about whether cops can be recorded, when the privacy rights of citizens to be free from surveillance don’t get taken seriously anymore? (Finally, I see that wendydavis commented just before me-apparently, they will let anybody in here lol.)
“(Finally, I see that wendydavis commented just before me-apparently, they will let anybody in here lol.)”
~Yeah; I agree. Can’t something be done about that???
;o)
These people are a danger to the passing public, and they belong in prison. Thanks for the update and rec’d.
Also, thanks, wendy, for the comment about filming laws. Knowing what I know now: that cops will lie and claim that their batteries on their body mikes suddenly all went dead, I carried, for a while, both a camera and a hand-held dictating recorder. I was unaware that there are pending laws preventing recording police encounters.
wear your own latex gloves while recording and drop the recordings off anonymously at the newspapers and tv peoples.
Thank you for this post. Recommended.
Cops are out of control coast to coast.
In Los Angeles, this is playing on the nightly news. I reviewed the comments section of KTLA and found about 5% of the comments were favorable to the police. 70+% think that the cops deserve the very worst that justice can dole out.
I also remember seeing footage of the city council meetings where citizen after citizen called the police chief a disgrace to law enforcement. (It was awesome).
I still have two questions,
1. Why aren’t all six being charges with something?
2. How much of this is related to the fact that we as a society refuse to pay for anything related to mental health anymore? Since we do not treat people, we (by default) expect the cops to terrorize these people to staying away from us.
The police are not out of control, they are doing their job as the enforcement arm of the 1%. They are encouraged to use fear and force to keep us in line. The killings and beatings are often random, but any show of rebelliousness on our part is an open invitation to, at least a beating. It happens all across the nation.
Thanks for all the info on filming cops, wendydavis. And you’re right – there is no clear answer. I don’t know how they would enforce a law against using cellphone cameras, especially in a large crowd.
For instance, here are some May Day photos I took at Oscar Grant Plaza. The cops were filming us and we were filming them. Especially when the cops started marching through the plaza tearing down banners and being all aggro. A cop was stopped in his tracks when he realized he was about to tear down an OPD pig pinata (or “pignata”). Some guy started yelling “but it’s a pig!” at the top of his lungs and someone else started bashing the pinata with a sign. I dare anyone to keep people from filming that. Or the spectacle of a phalanx of riot cops guarding the doors of Oakland City Hall with a banner over their heads that says “Oakland Ranked #5 Place to Visit in the World.”
Very good questions, Bobster. I don’t know why all six haven’t been charged, but maybe at least one more of them will be eventually.
So glad to hear that the comments are running against the cops in large numbers – although I am not particularly surprised that’s the case in LA.
My son was watching some newscast where mental health professionals were talking about how police are called to deal with mentally ill folks and they almost always escalate the situation instead of offering any actual help. To the extent they ever had it, cops seem to have lost any shred of humanity.
This is true. The post-911 mentality is that we have no rights. Even though the troops have been fighting for them for the past 10 years. Or something. Spock would not approve of this logic, but there you have it.
The Fullerton PD sounds like a mafia crew. Thanks for keeping this story alive. Tweeted.
“I dare anyone to keep people from filming that.”
~ LOL! Can’t remember under which County Sheriff’s administration awhile back, but he issued a memo that the he and his deputies would refer to themselves as Pigs. Now, he may have thought it clever, but I don’t reckon it was the best PR move in the end. ;o)
Lots of court cases in the works over ‘Filming Cops without Permission’. Some convictions have been insanely upheld, but the ACLU is all over the issue.
Forget which State Rep. in NY recently brought a bill to ensure it legality; good on him. And another bill in IL, though the author claims that it was the audio recording that had been illegal. Anyway, cell phones record both, so…the cops or prosecutors can call it wiretapping. What fukkery.
As more and more military come home and get released from active duty, they will gladly be taken in by the pds around the nation. In the military they learned that the answer to all questions is force and they have a lot of practice in answering the questions. We will see more and more of this action. In addition, as people become more and more disillusioned with the “leadership” of the country, there will be more and more “questions” to answer.
I thought Lisa Madigan as AG would be an improvement she went to teach poor kids in Africa. I thought if she went bad she would go bad by getting rich off government corruption like her Dad.
I had high hopes for her but if she wants to be a Nazi thats over.
Hello to everyone here from Canada. I registered a minute ago after reading all the comments and I wanted to say thanks to everyone for supporting and keeping me up to date on news around this case. I have been following it for a while now, and I still can’t manage to understand in the slightest how something like this happened. No regard or compassion whatsoever for human lives. Corruption and lies run your media and silence or discredit witnesses. Your authorities invent new words and laws to get around what would normally be illegal, with no consequences.
From a comment above I read this is a time you have all been dealing with since 911. Police abuse, murder, cover ups, government manipulation. You are all dealing with your country becoming the very thing you once fought against during world war 2. Elitism, Illegal war and News propaganda. The rest of the world is watching with tears, already having come to accept what your government tells you, are lies.
You need to take your country back, with a leader who actually has your interests in mind (*cough* Ron Paul), get back on your feet and stand up once again for what you believe in. As I said, I am from Canada. My name is Jesse and I live in my nations capital. Our country had always followed your lead like a big brother up until the last 10 years, BUT, unlike the past we now consider your country a bad influence.
Maybe that’s not what our newspapers would say either, but we all know there is a difference between the news media and word of mouth.
All in all, I didn’t mean to get off track here, but I consider it all linked. I pray for Justice for Kelly Thomas, and for the six murderers wearing badges who took his life. That a lesson is learned as a country that force and brutality are not acceptable and will not be tolerated, especially by those who are supposed to uphold the law and protect its citizens. Stop the violence everywhere, set an example and become the role model that the U.S.A once was to the world.
Well, this website seems to be a step in that direction. I commend you for your efforts and hope that you attain justice and truth.
With much love from Canada. Jesse
Welcome, Jesse, and thank you so much for your thoughtful comments. I think most of us here are well aware of what a bad influence the U.S. has become and what the rest of the world thinks. My husband and I attempted to emigrate to Canada but couldn’t qualify. We’d leave if we could but since we are stuck here, we try to make things better.
I must respectfully disagree with your suggestion that Ron Paul would make things better. Setting aside the fact that the oligarchs would not allow him to win, his vision of government is not acceptable to me. He might rein in our worst imperialistic tendencies, but he’d also dismantle what’s left of our social safety net.
I just came back on this page and noticed that I may have inadvertently clicked the “flag” on your comment, TheCallUp. I don’t know if one accidental flag results in any notifications or anything, but please accept my apology. Bad mouse!
Thanks for the welcome! I’m sure Canada would be happy to have you,it’s too bad you weren’t able to, hopefully you get a chance to visit sometime :)
for a while now i’ve gotten interested in the politics in America. The more I researched the views of the current candidates the more i’ve noticed only one stand out for me. I’m by no means a politician, in fact i’m a local artist and I’m in my 20′s and I work in a grocery store. But to my understanding a social safety net is an insurance plan so to speak for the countries middle class, no matter the bad shape the country is put in by the wealthy minority. It just makes sense to me to withdraw troops and stop a failed attempt at war that is costing all of you trillions of dollars, raising the debt you owe to china and whoever else, while printing more and more money and lowering the U.S dollar.
The only reason I suggested Ron Paul is that he wants to take government out of your homes and create a free market. Allowing the government to do much less in terms of what they can tell you to do in your personal lives. I just can’t see you needing a social safety net if you can focus on protecting your own country instead of policing the world, using the war budget on defenses instead. using the money saved from no more war to help the community. Getting out of debt with foreign countries, which will make you independent again. Out of all the presidential candidates Ron paul appears to be the only genuine soul up there, and has not changed his political views since the 1970′s when he wanted to pull out of Vietnam for the same reasons of spreading yourselves to thin, which creates the security issues you fear.
anyways, sorry to rant I just wanted to explain why I had mentioned him before. I know this is not the place to talk about this though so I’ll leave it here and apologize. If you remove this eventually it’s cool, I know this is meant to be a site in respect of Kelly Thomas and I hope i did not offend anyone with my opinions. Thank you again for the welcome, I really respect everything you’re doing.