Cross-posted at DKos, Open Left, and Docudharma
Hat tip to Henry Porter and the other diarists who posted on the videos and photos yesterday of the repatriation of service members slain in Afghanistan.
Henry wrote of how enraged he is that war criminals of the previous administration are walking free, of the pain he felt when he encountered a young disabled veteran, and that he finds "a measure of comfort in the hope that unlike his predecessor, this president has the courage, the character , the compassion and the judgment to make his decisions based on the best possible information and advice available to him."
It is not often that we are able to see photos depicting the cost of war to our troops and their families. Few people encounter our disabled veterans. The face of war is rarely seen.
During the war in Vietnam, Walter Cronkite made sure that Mr. and Mrs. America saw plenty of the reality, during the dinner hour.
Sensitivity to the wishes of our soldiers and their families must prevail over other considerations.
And, there are some soldiers and families who have been willing to share images of their sacrifice with us.
Below, we see grim realities which are not adequately conveyed by the flag-draped caskets in the repatriation ceremonies.
Bill Moyers’ website has a small collection of photos by photographer Nina Berman. More of these photos may be viewed here. These are part of a section at Moyers’ website titled "Picturing The Costs Of War".
Photographer Nina Berman better understands soldiers and their war by meeting face to face with those who had fought it. With no official list of the wounded to go by, she tracked down newspaper articles on returning vets. She put her photographs of twenty veterans and their stories in her book PURPLE HEARTS.
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Family photo of Ty Ziegel at his post in Iraq in 2004.
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Ty Ziegel has some help getting dressed in his Marine uniform for his wedding.
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Ty Ziegel at the candy store at his home in Washington, Illinois. When kids ask Ty what happened to his ears, he says, "the bad guys took them."
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Ty Ziegel and Renee Kline have their portrait taken before their wedding.
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The following photos from the Korengal Valley in Afghanistan are by Lynsey Addario for The New York Times. They accompany an article in The New York Times Magazine by Elizabeth Rubin, titled "Battle Company Is Out There", published Feb. 24, 2008. More photos by Ms Addario may be seen here.
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Sgt. Tanner Stichter tends to a wounded Specialist Carl Vandenberge.
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Specialist Carl Vandenberge, right, and Staff Sgt. Kevin Rice, left, are assisted as they walk to a medevac helicopter after being shot by insurgents in the ambush.
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U.S. troops carry the body of Staff Sgt. Larry Rougle, who was killed when the insurgents ambushed their squad in the Korengal Valley.
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For every flag-draped coffin which arrives at Dover AFB, there are three more members of our Armed Forces who sustain life-altering wounds.
If you want our troops to be re-deployed, please put your concerns into action, by contacting your members of congress, preferably in person at their local offices. It is not necessary to have an appointment to go to their offices and make your thoughts known. And go back to their offices, write, and call as often as you can. Also, please convey your thoughts to the President.
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And, Bill Moyers closing comments tonight are now available as a transcript at his web site:
October, as you know, was the bloodiest month for our troops in all eight years of the war. And beyond the human loss, the United States has spent more than 223 billion dollars there. In 2010 we will be spending roughly 65 billion dollars every year. 65 billion dollars a year.
The President is just about ready to send more troops. Maybe 44 thousand, that’s the number General McChrystal wants, bringing the total to over 100 thousand. When I read speculation last weekend that the actual number needed might be 600 thousand, I winced.
I can still see President Lyndon Johnson’s face when he asked his generals how many years and how many troops it would take to win in Vietnam. One of them answered, "Ten years and one million." He was right on the time and wrong on the number– two and a half million American soldiers would serve in Vietnam, and we still lost.
Whatever the total for Afghanistan, every additional thousand troops will cost us about a billion dollars a year. At a time when foreclosures are rising, benefits for the unemployed are running out, cities are firing teachers, closing libraries and cutting essential maintenance and services. That sound you hear is the ripping of our social fabric.
Which makes even more perplexing an editorial in THE WASHINGTON POST last week. You’ll remember the "Post" was a cheerleader for the invasion of Iraq, often sounding like a megaphone for the Bush-Cheney propaganda machine. Now it’s calling for escalating the war in Afghanistan. In a time of historic budget deficits, the paper said, Afghanistan has to take priority over universal health care for Americans. Fixing Afghanistan, it seems, is "a ‘necessity’"; fixing America’s social contract is not.
But listen to what an Afghan villager recently told a correspondent for the "Economist:" "We need security. But the Americans are just making trouble for us. They cannot bring peace, not if they stay for 50 years."
Listen, too, to Andrew Bacevich, the long-time professional soldier, graduate of West Point, veteran of Vietnam, and now a respected scholar of military and foreign affairs, who was on this program a year ago. He recently told "The Christian Science Monitor," "The notion that fixing Afghanistan will somehow drive a stake through the heart of jihadism is wrong. If we give General McChrystal everything he wants, the jihadist threat will still exist."
This from a warrior who lost his own soldier son in Iraq, and who doesn’t need animated graphics to know what the rest of us never see.
So here’s a suggestion. In a week or so, when the president announces he is escalating the war, let’s not hide the reality behind eloquence or animation. No more soaring rhetoric, please. No more video games. If our governing class wants more war, let’s not allow them to fight it with young men and women who sign up because they don’t have jobs here at home, or can’t afford college or health care for their families.
Let’s share the sacrifice. Spread the suffering. Let’s bring back the draft.
Yes, bring back the draft — for as long as it takes our politicians and pundits to "fix" Afghanistan to their satisfaction.
Bring back the draft, and then watch them dive for cover on Capitol Hill, in the watering holes and think tanks of the Beltway, and in the quiet little offices where editorial writers spin clever phrases justifying other people’s sacrifice. Let’s insist our governing class show the courage to make this long and dirty war our war, or the guts to end it.
That’s right: He said, Courage to make this war into a war that this nation truly supports, or end it. Thank you, Bill Moyers.
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Powerful diary. Thank you!
I remember getting so enraged when Sec. Gates got so righteous and faux-compassionate over a photojournalist publishing a picture of a mortally wounded 21 year old soldier. She was inflicting undo suffering declared Gates on the poor soldier’s family. What colossal compartmentalizing of his own role. He generated so much upset over this, I am sure it helped them put an embargo on pictures now.
I think the redeployment, so unjust, like playing Russian roullette with the lives of soldiers, again and again, keeps them from spreading out the horror of the war to more families, which would risk more serious, front row protests. So they betray the soldiers and break contracts with them. The most obscene kind of betrayal.
I just posted a diary re 6 arguments against war. I think we need to focus on this while the “deciding” is going on, though I sense it will be what the corporate/military classes want. Obama is going status quo dysfunction all the way.
Yes, and I read it, m’dear, and rec’d it all before I caught your reply. Well done!
Recommended. Thank you, Hound Dog. [and you, Libby]. Both Afghanistan and Iraq were misbegotten from even before the invasions of either. No lie was too big to impose upon the American public and the world in order to have these wars believed in.
Bill Moyers is the bravest, most courageous journalist I know. He repeatedly digs for the truth and shows and tells the people what he learns and has tried to warn the earless powers that be.
Please take a look at this clip, especially the last picture – and note the
interrogatortorturer holding the cattle prod.Those people are real animals…well, animals aren’t like that, actually.
The US gave Uzbekistan about $200 million (billion ?) in aid and an additional $80 M or B for the “security forces” – the employer (dictator, Islam Karimov) of the man with the cattle prod.
It’s millions, not billions……they’re a bargain!
God save America from itself.
Thanks, HoundDog. And thanks for the pictures. You know the speed with which Gates suppressed the pictures of journalists tells me that there is hidden somewhere deep within him/them the faint remembrance that this is so wrong that normal people would revolt against it if they were made aware of the real costs of these wars.
There is also another menace which no picture can show. I watched a clip of a peace activists meeting in which Col. Ann Wright spoke. She had just returned from Afghanistan. Every few minutes she had a dry, hacking cough. She said it was so prevalent that they called it the “Kabal Cough”. I see all those pics of helicopters dusting up so much sand and know that it is laden with depleted uranium. Col. Wright was only there a few days – what of our soldiers there for the long haul; 2nd and more tours? They are breathing in slow death.
And the new bunch in town are maybe worse mad than the old bunch.
DU contamination that is lied about and covered up; also whooping cough and cholera that has been confirmed by WHO.
http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=20718
Here’s the numbers on extended tours of duty.
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“The Army has received 4,200 applications for retroactive stop-loss payments since it began accepting applications on Oct. 21, said Sam Retherford, director of officer and enlisted personnel management.
A total of 136,000 soldiers and families of deceased soldiers are eligible for compensation if they or their loved one were held beyond the scheduled end of their service since 2001. Also eligible are 39,000 airmen, 9,660 Marines and 250 sailors. ”
http://blogs.stripes.com/blogs/stripes-central/army-gets-4200-applications-retroactive-stop-loss-payments
The dust is awful. It’s not sand, really; the grunts call it moondust. It turns to muck when it rains. Then they get these epic duststorms. Who knows what’s in it? could be anything, in addition to DU….
I live in the Greater St. Louis Respiratory Infection-filled Metro Area. It truly is the respiratory infection capital of the USA. We get the wind that blows in pig and cow and chicken excrement particles from all over the midwest, plus the brutal humidity of five river valleys. And it ain’t nothin’ compared to what those troops have to breathe over there.
The Germans know that DU is used in Afghanistan.
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“A military manual that was handed over to German campaigners has reignited allegations that the US used DU ammunition in Afghanistan. If true, it runs counter to repeated assurances given by the US military that no DU was used. The manual, a war-fighting guide for Bundeswehr contigents in Afghanistan is marked classified and for official NATO use only. It was written by the Bundeswehr’s Centre for Communication and published in late 2005.
During the operation “Enduring Freedom” in support of the Northern Alliance against the Taliban-Regime, US-aircraft used, amongst others, armour-piercing incendiary munitions with a DU-core. Because of its pyrophoric character, when this type of munition is used against hard targets (e.g. tanks, cars) the uranium burns. During the combustion, toxic dusts can be deposited, particularly at and around the targets, which can then be re-suspended easily.
It then warns troops how to recognise contaminated targets and of the potential health threat from DU munitions, suggesting precautions that troops should take. It is notable that they suggest the use of full Nuclear Chemical and Biological warfare suits: ”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14642
Thanks for that info and link, butterfly.
Animals kill to eat and survive. Can’t give humans that much credit.
“The U.S. military command in eastern Afghanistan has rescinded a ban on the publication of photos depicting slain U.S. military personnel, a Pentagon spokesman said Tuesday. The month-old ban had triggered concerns among lawmakers as well as from several media organizations.
When Truth Is Outlawed… Only Outlaws Will Have The Truth ”
http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/2009/10/15/when-truth-is-outlawed/
You see the human cost to our soldiers and the Afghans doesn’t matter, as the military keeps telling us we must win.
WAR isn’t a game, you win games. Wars You are Victorious, meaning You defeat Your enemy. WE can’t kill every Taliban, or every al Qeada, so victory will never be there. We are staying to try and make that Country into something we want. So it is war for what we want, not to defeat an enemy. We have litterally NO CHANCE of making that country into what we want, so it is not only a useless war, unjust war, and yes could be considered an illegal war.
Yet more voices are out there saying we must give the Generals what they want, support our troops, and stay for years for an outcome.
All of which will cost more than real healthcare reform, put us deaper in debt, and lose more lives, injure more on both sides, because it is said to be in our best interest. Our best interest is to take care of AMERICA.
Because we are fighting there, doesn’t mean the terrorists can’t find another country to plan in, train in, and to launch another attack. WE would be better to have our troops home protecting this Country against a said attack, than over there.
AQ has no need to return to Afghan. Why would they want to be there, instead of where they are right now? Some very credible, powerful and effective voices have been saying this over and over. The 9/11 attacks were coordinated from Hamburg, and the terrorists trained in American flight schools.
The Europeans treat terrorism as a police matter, not as an excuse to go occupy foreign countries. Plus, the Europeans learned about the AfPak region back in the colonial era. I think that is why when Obama asks them for more troops, they send a dribble at best. They know better. Our government is acting like P.T. Barnum’s Suckers Of The 21st Century. The U.S. government is FUNDING the Taliban in at least two ways: 1) Taliban shake down the contractors to whom we give money, and 2) we fund Pakistan’s military, which funds the ISI (intel agency) which funds the Taliban.
Matthew Hoh has called us to ACTION.
As the WaPo reported in its article about Matthew Hoh on October 27,
There is the money shot. Matthew Hoh has issued a call-out. Actively oppose this bizarre experiment our government is doing in Afghan; go to your congress critters, and pound on the table for re-deployment.
Let me stress the point. The American people have supported this war.
They support our military all over the world, but not hear.
The military’s sworn duty is to protect the United States of America.
It has for years been used for everything but that, and all was supported, defended and even beloved by the people.
The tragedy of 9-11 might have been avoided if our military was hear protecting us, instead of all over the world protecting people who dislike us and use us to their ends.
We try to blame our Government which is to blame, but all of it’s policies are suppoprted by the people, or at least a majority of the people.
You are seeing it today in poles, where the majority of the people are for sending more troops.
In some ways yes, and in some ways no. They are not paying anything out of their own pockets for it, since the costs go on the Bank of China Mastercharge card. That happens because the populace allows it. If Mr. and Mrs. America received a bill in their mailboxes for war expenses, they would flock to Senator Heavybotham’s office and demand an end to the war.
They’d also flock to the senator’s office and demand an end to the war if there was a draft which imperiled their little spoiled brats. Read Bill Moyers’ passage above.
I think a better conclusion is that 9/11 could have been averted by police work, not military. This is how the Europeans deal with terrorist threats, not by invading and occupying foreign countries. The hijackers were coordinated from Hamburg, and took flight training in the USA. Afghanistan and Afghans have little to do with it.
Yes and no. Sadly, we aren’t living in a democracy, best as I can tell. We’re living in a corporatocracy, under which is a one party system, which consists of two factions. These two factions put on a big show, like a big time wrestling match. King Kong Brody vs Andre the Giant. Each faction has great fun cheering its star, and booing and hissing at the other. Reality is that the script is all worked out in advance, and the money comes from the same source. But it keeps an illusion of a two party system, which disguises that it’s actually a one party system, and disguises that we don’t actually have a democracy, but instead have a corporatocracy. And, much of the populace just does not bother themselves with political matters, for a variety of reasons. All in my opinion!
Is anyone else having posting problems?
You don’t understand war by following the lives of the killers but of their victims. There seems to be this desire by certain so-called progressives to create a propaganda image of US soldiers as some sort of hero as if they were fighting a worthwhile or honourable cause instead of being “baby killers” for Haliburton.
This is a push-button murder war. Radio controlled death. Video games that kill. There is no honour in any of this. In Vietnam more soldiers died from suicide out of guilt than died of any sort threat from the enemy. I imagine that ratio has increased. When your greatest danger is that you might accidentally develop a conscience you are not a soldier. You are gas chamber prison guard. Crank the handle: kill another thousand. Bush the button and the process, the gas, the diseases, the bombings, the starvation, the carefully engineered civil war, they do the killing for you. You administer over the horror you’ve created and maintained. Executing a defenceless captive population with impunity is not honourable. Most “soldiers” don’t even have to see the disagreeable business of wet work. They are spared even the moral courage needed to look into the eyes of their victims.
If anyone wanted to understand these wars they would embed themselves with the good guys. How brave do you have to be to go up against the mightiest army in the world with their tanks, bombers, and sophistication when all you have is a rifle and a home made bomb? Your only advantage is your honour and the knowledge of what you fight for: your family, your home, your friends and neighbours.
Or perhaps if you wanted to know the war you’d interview the victims. Visit the hospitals. Talk to those who have been tortured, or talk to their relatives if they died under the knife.
I already linked to the same Daily Kos diary as an example of what was wrong with America. That author has passionate anger about the war but fails to mention the Iraqi victims. Does he even remember that they exist?
Let’s hear your review of Bill Moyers’ closing comments, DavidByron. And, see if you can do it without your head spinning around in 360s! ; – )
What do you mean? Bill Moyers is just another corporate whore aka “journalist”. His call for the draft is grotesquely immoral — forcing people (men that is) to do any kind of work is immoral, let alone forcing them to kill innocents for you. But I’m sure some so-called progressive along with most conservatives would love the idea.
THERE we go! Glad I brought popcorn. A guy like Moyers!, with integrity and credibility ten miles high and ten miles wide, HAS to be a huge threat to guy whose….never mind.
It’s DavidByron against the world, folks. Have some popcorn!
That was weird. Couldn’t post until I changed the semi-colon in,
into a colon. In fact it still won’t post with the semi-colon.
The wedding photograph is very striking. I’ve seen it before and my thought about it was that it is a picture of beauty and the beast. That much is quite clear but the interesting thing is that the soldier has become inwardly a beast and a horror upon humanity by his willing dive into the depravity of a meat-grinder “war” that is little different from administering over the world’s largest concentration camp.
In this picture the woman remains beautiful because in our society women are by tradition not called upon to do the dirty work of empire. Everyone has to pretend that the soldier has not become a beast. Everyone has to pretend that he is a “hero”. By becoming death he has inherited the curse of Cain. In this rare picture his blasted soul is visible externally.
polls, i think it is.
and yes, you may be correct, all the citizens of the usa are good little germans. keen on killing the poles of this era.
that, of course, doesn’t make them any more moral than the good burghers of berlin[1933-1945]. nor more moral than the burghers of pittsburg[ad infinitum] from 1954-1975 concerning amerika’s invasions of seasia.
Do you want the troops to exit from Afghan? I do.
How do you want to accomplish this? What do you suggest any ordinary citizen do towards this goal?
No long fancy answer is necessary. Give it to me plain and simple.