I would like to extend a special thank-you to the National Organization for Marriage. No, I’m not lying. Thank you NOM, you’ve helped us win greater support for inclusion of gays and lesbians in marriage.
If you missed it, NOM spent the summer rallying six or seven people across the nation to defend marriage against the extension of marriage to loving people who’ve wanted it since the beginning of time. They’ve spewed hatred all over the country and made speeches all about traditions and morals. What ended up happening at these rallies was not quite what they intended:
A final way in which this turning point has been apparent this summer is the response to the National Organization for Marriage’s ’’Summer for Marriage’’ tour. Far from energizing communities to oppose ’’gay marriage,’’ the near-universal result, in city after city, was a far more engaged and motivated pro-marriage equality counter-action that often drew more people.
That response, then, impacted the message in media reports from Minneapolis – ’’Dueling rallies with little hitch,’’ headlined the Star Tribune – to Atlanta, where The Atlanta Journal-Constitution noted that NOM had ’’20 or so protesters’’ compared to ’’more than 150 counter-protesters.’’
Well, I guess that backfired. . . .
The Prop. 8 Trial Tracker, linked above, became the NOM Tour Tracker for the summer and every post noted that the counter-protest numbers were higher than the people coming out to support opposite marriage. It makes sense though: why would they come out to a "protest" event which supports something they already have? The NOM Tour was flawed from the beginning. Their whole strategy was to paint proponents of opposite marriage as victims. The tour was about "defending" marriage or taking it back from the gays or whatever else. But straight people can already get married and if gays can marry too, it won’t affect that. Straight people realize they aren’t "victims" of anything. Nobody came out to support the victimization of privileged heterosexuals because that’s stupid on its face.
And if you want to know how much of a beating marriage has taken lately, if you want to know how much danger the institution of marriage is in, well, it’s just so, so bad:
In the states for which data were available, there were 3.4 divorces per 1,000 people in 2009, following rates of 3.5 divorces per 1,000 people in 2008 and 3.6 divorces per 1,000 people in 2007.
Less divorces? I don’t know if we as a country can handle that. I would have thought that with more states allowing gay marriage, more people would leave their wives for the gay. And the article says there were less marriages last year, so that means tons and tons and tons of evil out-of-wedlock births by impure heathens, right?
No, there were actually:
13.5 births per 1,000 people last year, compared to a rate of 13.9 births per 1,000 people in 2008.
There were less births and less divorces? Assuming that the anti-gay argument that out-of-wedlock-births, divorces, and the erosion of marriages actually has a rational relationship to gay people in the first place then where’s the evidence they even have for that silly assumption that’s unrelated to gay people at all? There seems to be no proof, just innuendo, and nobody’s buying it anymore.
And apparently, a lot less of these staunchly pro-tradition marriage are getting, you know, married. Do they just not care enough about marriage to get one themselves? How can you defend marriage from gay people if you don’t even want one yourself?
And then there’s this: opposite marriage defenders are losing the GOP:
A solid majority of adults younger than 30 – about six in 10 – support the right of gay and lesbian couples to legally wed, according to a Washington Post poll in February.
But even many older Americans and self-identified social conservatives have changed their view on an issue that just six years ago galvanized voters in support of President George W. Bush’s reelection.
Nobody cares anymore. People care about jobs and money. That’s why nobody’s listening to these affluent conservatives ranting about marriage. They can worry about silly little things like that because they’ll never face homelessness or hunger. Their job won’t get shipped overseas. The GOP is telling Americans that Democrats are killing their jobs and then charging them high taxes – either that or their jobs are going to undocumented people. And in a country with 10% unemployment, you’re not going to convince anyone that anything other than jobs is important. People who are married are fine. In fact, people who are married are considerably more wealthy and stress-free.
Even social conservatives are done with this:
Some surveys show that support for same-sex marriage is growing even among young evangelical Christians. According to a 2008 study by the liberal-leaning group Faith in Public Life, young white evangelicals are more than twice as likely as older evangelicals to say that gay couples should be allowed to marry.
The anti-equality fight is losing churches, the Tea Party, older voters, younger voters, Republicans (conservatives and party leaders) and just about every group they would need to stay relevant. And more importantly – a lot more importantly – the side with something to lose has become the more vocal and galvanized side. Equality forces all over the country have come to NOM counter protests to voice their support for marriage. Conservatives are joining our fight (whether we like them or not) and abandoning these bigots in droves.
Even science and facts, which have never been on conservatives’ sides in the first place, are showing again a fierce opposition to anti-gay ideology.
I think this is a tipping point.



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These hate groups often do do us more good than harm. I think the tide started to turn on GLBT rights issues in this country when Fred Phelps came out of his Topeka hole in the ground to protest at the funeral of Matthew Shepard. So thanks to ALL the overzealous haters out there! Keep it up and we will all be equal much sooner than we might otherwise have been minus the bigots.
great job indie!
Hehehe yes! We couldn’t have done it without you guys! *HUGS!!*
(Also, Terry, I cross posted this to our blog as well.)
Now if only the haters worked this well on other issues like workers’ rights and immigration reform. [sigh]
At least their hating had a beneficial effect for this cause. Who knew that haters would show themselves to be disorganized ranters who couldn’t muster common sense defenses for their arguments?
Haha yeppp. It’s bad enough that they can’t do it at their rallies but as the Prop. 8 trial showed, they can’t do it at trial either. I have no doubt that their attorneys were competent. There’s just no arguments to be made.
About time the backlash goes in the left direction. I can’t tell you how many books I’ve read this summer that argue that the liberal agenda of civil rights, antiwar protests, etc., etc., in the 1960s & 70s energized the wingnuts to take over the govt in the 80s, 90s, & esp the 00s.
I was present here for much of the H8 trial liveblog. I couldn’t believe the D-I lawyers’ performance, or lack thereof. No wonder they didn’t want it televised. My mental picture was of them moving their lips & nothing but drool coming out.
Look closely at the bus graphic. I’m sensing chemistry between the two husbands.
Manatee Gallagher must be very proud.
Look at you – front page. Congrats. Really good post.
Maggie Gallagher Meets St. Peter at the Gates of Heaven.
Too bad we have to wait until Dec for next chapter.
I’m glad that after eight years of Bush, equality is looking so good. It’s an awesome surprise.
I read the blogs here and at the Prop 8 Trial Tracker and saw it. Some of the testimony was just beautiful. Blankenhorn saying we’ll be more American when gays and lesbians can marry comes to mind.
Great video. Words of one syllable, simple sentences. Perfect.
On edit: I keep wondering why the Xtianists keep avoiding the Beatitudes. Not to mention the Golden Rule. In my simple world, I think the latter is most of what is needed in the way of morality.
I’ll have to go look at it on the front page. Apparently it’s a randomly generated graphic. I don’t know how to put those in posts here.
She should never give up! Please Maggie, please do this for the next few years!
I found out I’m on the front page from Twitter – which I just joined (@indiemcemopants) like an hour ago.
I’m sure there’ll be lots of fun in the briefs before then.
Just what do you mean by that? *g*
Oh I’m sure she will. Anything to make her feel superior to other people. I have never seen someone as insecure and loathsome as she is.
Another FP! Good on ya!
Hey now, those are good conservative upstanding moral men! Nobody like that would ever come out as ga… oh… nevermind.
One more thing tho – it IS important to have a “foil” so to say, a sharp background relief of points in a debate.
While that’s true for winning, it’s also true for KEEPING.
NOM won’t just lie down and go away in some kind of once and for all manner. Nope. They’ll lose this series of battles. But they’ll continue to skirmish, and continue fighting, and we need top be prepared to fight those as well.
Just like when a bully folds after a confrontation; the bully isn’t dead. He’ll be back with more buddies and a different scheme.
I remember reading during the trial that at one point, iirc, she had her bare feet propped up and had to be told that it was kind of a rude thing to do. I am amazed.
Thanks! I feel all unworthy, but hey, if they like my stuff enough to put it on the FP I won’t complain.
watertiger is upstairs!
Late Night: Take Back the White 2010
Having dealt with real bullies when I was a lot younger, you’re right.
That’s also something that works out for us in some ways but may work against us in others. In the public sphere, they can change as much and as often as they want. If an argument doesn’t work, they can move on. And that might hurt us, because we’ll need to fight them on each new phase.
In the courts, however, they CAN’T bring any new arguments into this specific trial. Now that they’ve presented their case to the District Court, that’s their case til the end. And that helps us. Now if they have an “oh shit” moment and think of something clever, it’s too late. At least til they do another trial.
Great recollection…reinforced by some of the encores at the funerals of people killed in the armed services. Anything thoughts about equality/injustice here?
If these people are no threat why even mention them? Lemme give you a couple of numbers: 31 and 0. One is the number of times traditional marriage has been upheld at the ballot box. You can guess which number that is. I guess we are a country of haters eh? Did you folks realize that strong majorities of black Americans are against gay marriage? Are they all bigots too?
It depends how one defines marriage, doesn’t it. My sweetie and I consider ourselves married and we don’t need or want a license from the state for our human relationship. (No mumbo-jumbo religious rite either.) In fact, we’ve seen enough state-licensed marriages to believe that a license might even be detrimental to a relationship that we have to work at and sustain. I betcha we’re hardly alone.
It used to be, not long ago, that a white couldn’t marry a black, either with a license or without, in twenty-seven states. What right does the state have to tell us whom we can live with and love? No right. So the problem isn’t dealing with official marriage statistics, which are meaningless, but with the damn state licensing marriages in the first place. Goes for gays too. Why not.
The religiosos say that gay marriage threatens marriage. Do gay travel agencies threaten travel? What is threatened is only the biblical Christian marriage consisting of an alpha-male and a submissive female baby factory. Genesis 3:16 — Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
The ballot box doesn’t dictate fundamental rights. Never has, never will.
…*hug*
Not sure I get your point. Are you claiming that African-Americans can’t be bigots? Or is your argument that being black gives one a pass for one’s homophobia/heterosexism? Please clarify.
OMG! Look at you, indie. On the front page at FDL. At least I can truly say, “I knew him when . . .” I’m also one of the few who can claim to have visited your home town, which I understand is now considering renaming itself “Indiemcemopantsville.” ;-)
Heh John I didn’t even waste my time on that argument. They’re doing the whole “I’m gonna make this guy who’s gay (so he must be white) make a racist comment!” thing. Decided not to take the bait.
This is the SECOND time FDL front paged me! I don’t know why they seem to like my writing a lot but I’m really, really glad. Haha re: my hometown, they’re actually getting the torches ready to come after me. Then they’ll burn it down and rename it.
If they’re getting out the torches, then you’d better watch out down there in Loxley. Someone might take that giant fake orange (or whatever it is) from in front of the Burris Farmers Market and throw it at you.
Oh dear god now I’m gonna have nightmares of that thing catching on fire and rolling over me. Dude I’m in a wheelchair! I can’t get away from it fast enough!
P.S.: They like your writing because it’s good. Congrats, my brother.
I wouldn’t worry too much. I suspect the Burris folks don’t want to lose that great “advertisement” for their market.
I’m still getting used to people thinking it’s good. And thank you! Man between this and my new Twitter account I’m not getting any sleep and I have to get up at 730 for the doctor.
Such is the price of your new fame, young man. Best of luck at the doctor. Now go to bed.
Yes. They are all bigots too.