In an on-the-record roundtable with bloggers and journalists this morning, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was extremely confident that health reform will pass and pass quickly:
I have no intention of not passing this bill. I have faith in my members that we’ll be passing this.
If we don’t’ pass the bill, how do you explain that to Americans? There is incredibly urgency in cost and the health and well-being of American, and yet we as Democrats, with two Houses [of Congress] and White House, couldn’t make the historic decision to go forward?
The same forces that are aligned against Medicare are against this bill. This is what what they believe. I’ll give them credit for staying true to their beliefs – they don’t believe in health care for all Americans and a government role in that. The budget that they have [Rep. Paul Ryan's budget] privatizes social security, offers vouchers instead of medicare, and gives block grants to states instead of Medicaid. That is what they believe.
We want to take it to the American people and say, "This is the choice you have. This is their vision, and this is ours." [The Democratic members of the House] are strong enough and courageous enough to take that message out there.
There is a legitimate political debate happening in our country – what role should government have in bringing down health care costs, increasing accessibility and coverage, holding insurance companies accountable. We welcome that debate.
This is the most important initiative most of us in Congress – Congressman Dingell who was here for Medicare notwithstanding – will ever do in our legislative lifetimes.
Throughout the meeting, Pelosi continually referred back to this language, stressing that it’s time to move forward and that the legislation is historic progress. At one point, she said that her "biggest fight" was against doing a small, incrementalist bill instead of addressing the entire system. "We’ve won that argument," she said, "And we can now take the country in a new direction."
Pelosi said she is asking members of the Democratic caucus to think about what is in the bill that they support, not what’s not in the bill that might lead them to oppose. She says the bill does three transformational things, the "triple A" as she puts it:
We’re proud of what’s in there. Affordability for the middle class, access to health care for 31 million Americans, and accountability for insurance companies. The reconciliation package will change the pay-for [the excise tax], increase affordability, and correct the inequities in the states [the Nebraska deal]. The reasons we [in the House] didn’t like Senate bill are corrected in reconciliation bill.
The biggest lever is to prevent insurance company abuses is the ability to prevent them from doing business in the exchange. That’s a really big deal for them. If they raise rates they can be barred from the exchange. If they don’t abide by anti-discrimination rules, they can be barred.
And, between now and implementation, if insurance companies don’t follow the law, they’ll be prevented from participating in the exchange. The Secretary [of Health and Human Services] can establish fines, and the Attorneys General can take action if they’re discriminating. That’s in the legislation.
Of course, we want to pass more. That’s why we passed the insurance industry anti-trust repeal, and we’ll revisit some other issues in the future.
As for how reform will pass, the Speaker stressed that it’s hard to get a vote count before you have a bill. As of today, she is waiting for the final CBO score to release the language, then they can begin counting votes. "Time is important," she said, "every special interest against the bill benefits by delay."
She said there were three options for passing the Senate bill and the reconciliation improvements through the House. The first – having the House and Senate pass the reconciliation bill before the House passes the Senate bill – was ruled out by the Senate parliamentarian. The second option – having the House pass both the Senate bill and a package of reconciliation fixes – is available. And there is a third option, one that the Speaker said she and her members are leaning towards. Under the plan, the House would vote only on the reconciliation bill based on a rule that says once the reconciliation bill passes the House, the Senate bill would be "deemed" passed in the House as well:
We don’t have the votes yet because we don’t have a bill yet. People just haven’t made a commitment because they haven’t seen the bill. The vision and specifics will get us the votes.
There is no easy vote around here, but I have confidence we’ll be fine if we keep eye on the ball and have members be completely familiar with final bill. This is historic.
The Budget Committee is marking up last year’s reconciliation instructions today – a "shell bill" – in preparation for putting in the real reconciliation bill as soon as the CBO scores come out. The Rules Committee will meet shortly thereafter to decide how the bill or bills comes to the floor. By all accounts, the House is still on target for a vote late this week or this weekend, and Speaker Pelosi is confident she’ll have her votes.
(also posted at the NOW! blog)
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When the choices are bad and worse, the American people have the right to say: No deal.
“At one point, she said that her “biggest fight” was against doing a small, incrementalist bill instead of addressing the entire system. “We’ve won that argument,” she said, “And we can now take the country in a new direction.”;
Excuse me? Addressing the ‘entire system’? If there is no public option-competition for the insurance companies-, if drug re-importation is not available, if Medicare can’t negotiate drug prices, if a woman’s right to have an abortion is hindered in anyway, if it -the legislation- doesn’t kick in in a meaningful way for another few years (and this is pure bullshit:”And, between now and implementation, if insurance companies don’t follow the law, they’ll be prevented from participating in the exchange. The Secretary [of Health and Human Services] can establish fines, and the Attorneys General can take action if they’re discriminating. That’s in the legislation.”), if passing the legislation cements in place the role of private corporations as the main basis for healthcare, then how in the hell can she claim that the legislation is ‘addressing the whole system’?
More kabuki crap; kill the bill and FORCE Obama to push for what would truly be healthcare for all by opening up Medicare to all who wish to participate and removing the payroll limit on contributions to the Medicare payroll tax, a separate tax from Social Security.
That’s if Obama REALLY cared about healthcare for all; but he doesn’t and it’s way past time to call him out on that.
Do you think that if this bill goes down they’ll try something else? I just don’t, and I’ve seen no evidence to support another view.
Yes, I do and my reasoning is what Orszag has made clear to Obama.
“The numbers speak for themselves. The Medicare and Social Security trustees’ reports released this week show that health-care costs drive our long-term entitlement problem.”
(And THAT is what is the main impetus behind the legislation, NOT caring about those who will die because they lack the insurance necessary-in this society- for healthcare or reducing business costs; please rememebr the CBO scoring has to do NOT with us out here beyond the ‘beltway’ but the Federal budget).
And since the ‘powers that be’ are intent on an economy that is derived from a ‘permanent state of war’, entitlements are where they need to make cost reductions.
It’s the ‘deals’ based on the alchemy of money for campaigns that has been the driving force so far; once those deals are ‘off’-via defeating the bill-then they have to do something other than what they did in the past.
Well, I don’t doubt that the issue might be revisited soon, as in, within the next 5 or so years, but we’ll have even less power then than we do now in terms of numbers in Congress.
But I think there’s just about 0% chance that if this bill goes down they turn around and pass something else this year.
“but we’ll have even less power then than we do now in terms of numbers in Congress.” ; you are probably correct on this matter given the Citizen’s United ruling BUT I don’t think it really is a matter of the ‘numbers of us’ but simple economics from a Federal fiscal pov.
And the real push AFAIC, is to pass the legislation so that Obama doesn’t appear any weaker a President than he currently is perceived.
I don’t deny there’s a victory for victory’s sake part of this, no doubt. But I’m not seeing how not passing this makes it more likely to pass something better later. There are a ton of ways to “control health care costs,” most of them not progressive.
Do you think that if this bill goes down they’ll try something else?
Do you think if this monstrosity passes, then they’ll be willing to try something else?
But I’m not seeing how not passing this makes it more likely to pass something better later.
And I’m not seeing how passing this POS makes it more likely to pass something better later, either.
Especially considering that the worst elements will be empowered by this bill and have even more of our money and a captive market. I find those kinds of arguments less than compelling, since the same thing can be said about efforts to make healthcare better whether this insurance industry bailout bill passes or not.
It seems Obama brings out the Corporatist in every kind of Dem….
So, the “most important” thing Congress will do, According to the Speaker, is to shovel a fat pile of status quo dung onto the American Public. Check.
Complicit, Corrupt, Idiot: pick any two.
“This is the most important thing we will do in our lifetimes.”
Well, that’s pretty sad.
Aw good ol’ Nancy lying to bloggers again. How sweet. Barf. How many female bloggers were there since this health insurance scam affects them too? Oh that’s right. NONE. Fuck Nancy.
It certainly is the most important thing to happen for the Health Ins. mafia and they have the champagne waiting on ice. I bet their deep cover double agent front man Wendall Potter will be getting a big secret bonus to. Wendall played his role to a T! The man should get an Emmy for his role as Corp. turn coat BRAVO Wendall you evil fuck!